RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors - my reason
Thanks for all the responses. I posted earlier last week about my need to host 2 separate companies on one Exchange box, and an absolute requirement is that customers of each company could not know that the 2 companies physically resided under the same roof with the same management. One problem to this scenario is that NDR's for both companies would be generated by the same address, and it would give them away. I haven't found a solution to the NDR issue, and no one on this list has, either. Which leads me to the POP3 scenario Currently one of the companies, which has less than 20 users, uses an external mail hosting company and they POP their mail. The other company uses the internal Exchange 2000 box. Since we can't seem to find a solution to house both companies' mail on the same box and still retain anonimity, we were thinking that a possible solution is to install a POP3 connector on the Exchange box to POP the external mail. That accomplishes several tasks: - Anonimity is retained, since NDR's would still come from the external hosting company. - All internal mail clients could be setup the same way; no need for some POP clients and some MAPI clients. - All mail is now being AV scanned. Whatd'ya think? Does my scenario make sense for using a POP3 connector? Jason > -Original Message- > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:55 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 > POP3 Connectors > > > Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 > connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in > these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are > limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as > mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). > > I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get > SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't > want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at > Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter > that causes random people to start completely LOSING their > POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. > Of course, one of those "random" people would have to be the > president of the company that I put SBS in... ) > > That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most > widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on > fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - > I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. > > If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for > the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't > straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom > perl program to do the job. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 > Connectors > > > Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party > Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way > to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? > > > J a s o n C l i s h e > Senior Network Engineer > Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Direct: (248) 371-3542 > Mobile: (248) 891-8780 > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors - my reason
turn off NDRs -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors - my reason Thanks for all the responses. I posted earlier last week about my need to host 2 separate companies on one Exchange box, and an absolute requirement is that customers of each company could not know that the 2 companies physically resided under the same roof with the same management. One problem to this scenario is that NDR's for both companies would be generated by the same address, and it would give them away. I haven't found a solution to the NDR issue, and no one on this list has, either. Which leads me to the POP3 scenario Currently one of the companies, which has less than 20 users, uses an external mail hosting company and they POP their mail. The other company uses the internal Exchange 2000 box. Since we can't seem to find a solution to house both companies' mail on the same box and still retain anonimity, we were thinking that a possible solution is to install a POP3 connector on the Exchange box to POP the external mail. That accomplishes several tasks: - Anonimity is retained, since NDR's would still come from the external hosting company. - All internal mail clients could be setup the same way; no need for some POP clients and some MAPI clients. - All mail is now being AV scanned. Whatd'ya think? Does my scenario make sense for using a POP3 connector? Jason > -Original Message- > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:55 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 > POP3 Connectors > > > Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 > connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in > these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are > limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as > mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). > > I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get > SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't > want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at > Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter > that causes random people to start completely LOSING their > POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. > Of course, one of those "random" people would have to be the > president of the company that I put SBS in... ) > > That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most > widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on > fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - > I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. > > If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for > the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't > straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom > perl program to do the job. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 > Connectors > > > Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party > Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way > to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? > > > J a s o n C l i s h e > Senior Network Engineer > Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Direct: (248) 371-3542 > Mobile: (248) 891-8780 > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors - my reason
Try looking for Hosted Exchange on Microsoft e.g. http://www.microsoft.com/serviceproviders/whitepapers/exchange.asp Yours, Julian Stone -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Thanks for all the responses. I posted earlier last week about my need to host 2 separate companies on one Exchange box, and an absolute requirement is that customers of each company could not know that the 2 companies physically resided under the same roof with the same management. One problem to this scenario is that NDR's for both companies would be generated by the same address, and it would give them away. I haven't found a solution to the NDR issue, and no one on this list has, either. Which leads me to the POP3 scenario Currently one of the companies, which has less than 20 users, uses an external mail hosting company and they POP their mail. The other company uses the internal Exchange 2000 box. Since we can't seem to find a solution to house both companies' mail on the same box and still retain anonimity, we were thinking that a possible solution is to install a POP3 connector on the Exchange box to POP the external mail. That accomplishes several tasks: - Anonimity is retained, since NDR's would still come from the external hosting company. - All internal mail clients could be setup the same way; no need for some POP clients and some MAPI clients. - All mail is now being AV scanned. Whatd'ya think? Does my scenario make sense for using a POP3 connector? Jason > -Original Message- > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:55 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 > POP3 Connectors > > > Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are > generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let > the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 > connector can work well (such as > mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). > > I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get SBS's POP3 > connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't want it. It apparently > doesn't undergo any QA testing at Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug > in the POP3 connecter that causes random people to start completely > LOSING their > POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. > Of course, one of those "random" people would have to be the president > of the company that I put SBS in... ) > > That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most widely > used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on fetchmail and > win32, and you will find various win32 ports - I even remember seeing > one that ran as a service. > > If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for the POP3 > and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't straighten out my > client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom perl program to do the job. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 > Connectors > > > Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party > Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way > to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? > > > J a s o n C l i s h e > Senior Network Engineer > Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Direct: (248) 371-3542 > Mobile: (248) 891-8780 > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]