RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Niki Blowfield

Hi

Thanks for the response

Well, we do have the exchange agent

I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
(Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now exclude the exchsrvr
folders on the normal backup folder selections?

Thanks

Nik


-Original Message-
From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a normal
backup without stopping the exchange services. The services are accessing
these files while beeing online. That's why the backup program cannot save
them to the tape.

If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to backup your
exchange files while your exchange service is online. Furthermore you can
backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the whole database as
you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole thing at once.

Mike

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
 An: Exchange Discussions
 Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards
 backing up Exchange
 with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
 
 I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive
 in the Exchange
 server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup to another
 backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup all 
 local drives,
 without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
 folders. I have
 cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
 Exchange runs
 continuously.
 
 After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup
 log. Also, when
 simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub 
 databases, but Dir.edb
 is not available.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started 
 on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - 
 skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started 
 on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - 
 skipped.
 
 Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other
 problems the logs
 suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange 
 Agent provide?
 
 Thanks
 
 Nik
 
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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Andy David

He doesnt need the Exchange Agent to do an online Exchange-aware backup of
the store. 
Niki, when you browse to the Exchange Server in Veritas, do you see the
Information Store and the Directory as choices?
It sounds as if you chose to do a flat file backup instead. P.S. I would
upgrade BE as well. You are just a bit behind. :)

Don't bother with backing up the individual mailboxes or the Exchange
Agent.. Keep a recovery server handy instead and practice your restores
there.



-Original Message-
From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a normal
backup without stopping the exchange services. The services are
accessing these files while beeing online. That's why the backup program
cannot save them to the tape.

If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to backup
your exchange files while your exchange service is online. Furthermore
you can backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the whole
database as you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole
thing at once.

Mike

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
 An: Exchange Discussions
 Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards 
 backing up Exchange
 with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
 
 I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive 
 in the Exchange
 server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup to another
 backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup all 
 local drives,
 without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
 folders. I have
 cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
 Exchange runs
 continuously.
 
 After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup 
 log. Also, when
 simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub 
 databases, but Dir.edb
 is not available.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
 Backup started on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 .
 The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - skipped.
 The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
 Backup started on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 .
 The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - skipped.
 
 Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other 
 problems the logs
 suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange 
 Agent provide?
 
 Thanks
 
 Nik
 
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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Andy David

Yes.
And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.


-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Hi

Thanks for the response

Well, we do have the exchange agent

I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
(Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now exclude the exchsrvr
folders on the normal backup folder selections?

Thanks

Nik


-Original Message-
From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a normal
backup without stopping the exchange services. The services are accessing
these files while beeing online. That's why the backup program cannot save
them to the tape.

If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to backup your
exchange files while your exchange service is online. Furthermore you can
backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the whole database as
you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole thing at once.

Mike

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
 An: Exchange Discussions
 Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards
 backing up Exchange
 with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
 
 I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive
 in the Exchange
 server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup to another
 backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup all 
 local drives,
 without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
 folders. I have
 cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
 Exchange runs
 continuously.
 
 After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup
 log. Also, when
 simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub 
 databases, but Dir.edb
 is not available.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started 
 on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - 
 skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started 
 on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - 
 skipped.
 
 Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other
 problems the logs
 suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange 
 Agent provide?
 
 Thanks
 
 Nik
 
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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Niki Blowfield

Hi Andy,

Yes, I was doing a flat file backup. I've removed the exchsrvr folders now
though.

Does including the mailbox option in effect double up your backup by virtue
of you backing up the information store?

Thanks

Nik


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Yes.
And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.


-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Hi

Thanks for the response

Well, we do have the exchange agent

I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
(Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now exclude the exchsrvr
folders on the normal backup folder selections?

Thanks

Nik


-Original Message-
From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a normal
backup without stopping the exchange services. The services are accessing
these files while beeing online. That's why the backup program cannot save
them to the tape.

If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to backup your
exchange files while your exchange service is online. Furthermore you can
backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the whole database as
you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole thing at once.

Mike

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
 An: Exchange Discussions
 Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards backing up 
 Exchange with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
 
 I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive in the 
 Exchange server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup 
 to another backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup 
 all local drives,
 without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
 folders. I have
 cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
 Exchange runs
 continuously.
 
 After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log. Also, 
 when simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub
 databases, but Dir.edb
 is not available.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started
 on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - 
 skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started
 on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - 
 skipped.
 
 Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other problems the 
 logs suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange
 Agent provide?
 
 Thanks
 
 Nik
 
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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Andy David

More than double! 
Use good deleted item retention policies, keep a recovery server at the
ready and practice your restores frequently and update your BE! 

 


-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Hi Andy,

Yes, I was doing a flat file backup. I've removed the exchsrvr folders now
though.

Does including the mailbox option in effect double up your backup by virtue
of you backing up the information store?

Thanks

Nik


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Yes.
And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.


-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Hi

Thanks for the response

Well, we do have the exchange agent

I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
(Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now exclude the exchsrvr
folders on the normal backup folder selections?

Thanks

Nik


-Original Message-
From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a normal
backup without stopping the exchange services. The services are accessing
these files while beeing online. That's why the backup program cannot save
them to the tape.

If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to backup your
exchange files while your exchange service is online. Furthermore you can
backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the whole database as
you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole thing at once.

Mike

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
 An: Exchange Discussions
 Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards backing up 
 Exchange with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
 
 I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive in the 
 Exchange server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup 
 to another backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup 
 all local drives,
 without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
 folders. I have
 cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
 Exchange runs
 continuously.
 
 After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log. Also, 
 when simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub
 databases, but Dir.edb
 is not available.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started
 on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - 
 skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started
 on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - 
 skipped.
 
 Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other problems the 
 logs suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange
 Agent provide?
 
 Thanks
 
 Nik
 
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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Andy David

Set the Deleted Item Retention on the server to a time that best suits your
organization (30 days or whatever) 
After that, you can always restore a backup to your recovery server and spit
out the mailbox to a pst. 


-Original Message-
From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


If you should forget the mailbox stuff - how do you proceed if a user
deletes any mails permanently and you have to restore them wihtout
bothering the other users?


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 13:48
 An: Exchange Discussions
 Betreff: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Yes.
 And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Hi
 
 Thanks for the response
 
 Well, we do have the exchange agent
 
 I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
 (Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now 
 exclude the exchsrvr
 folders on the normal backup folder selections?
 
 Thanks
 
 Nik
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just 
 do a normal
 backup without stopping the exchange services. The services 
 are accessing
 these files while beeing online. That's why the backup 
 program cannot save
 them to the tape.
 
 If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to 
 backup your
 exchange files while your exchange service is online. 
 Furthermore you can
 backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the 
 whole database as
 you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole 
 thing at once.
 
 Mike
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
  An: Exchange Discussions
  Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  Dear All,
  
  I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards
  backing up Exchange
  with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
  
  I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive
  in the Exchange
  server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup 
 to another
  backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup all 
  local drives,
  without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
  folders. I have
  cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
  Exchange runs
  continuously.
  
  After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup
  log. Also, when
  simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub 
  databases, but Dir.edb
  is not available.
  
  Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit 
 Backup started 
  on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item 
 \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - 
  skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
  
  Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit 
 Backup started 
  on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item 
 \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - 
  skipped.
  
  Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other
  problems the logs
  suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange 
  Agent provide?
  
  Thanks
  
  Nik
  
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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Roger Seielstad

Read the FAQ

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Sr. Systems Administrator
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 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 If you should forget the mailbox stuff - how do you proceed 
 if a user deletes any mails permanently and you have to 
 restore them wihtout bothering the other users?
 
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 13:48
  An: Exchange Discussions
  Betreff: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  Yes.
  And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  Hi
  
  Thanks for the response
  
  Well, we do have the exchange agent
  
  I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options 
  (Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now exclude the 
  exchsrvr folders on the normal backup folder selections?
  
  Thanks
  
  Nik
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just
  do a normal
  backup without stopping the exchange services. The services 
  are accessing
  these files while beeing online. That's why the backup 
  program cannot save
  them to the tape.
  
  If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to
  backup your
  exchange files while your exchange service is online. 
  Furthermore you can
  backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the 
  whole database as
  you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole 
  thing at once.
  
  Mike
  
   -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
   Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
   An: Exchange Discussions
   Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   Dear All,
   
   I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards 
 backing up 
   Exchange with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
   
   I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT 
 drive in the 
   Exchange server (used to be across network, offline file 
 copy backup
  to another
   backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup all
   local drives,
   without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
   folders. I have
   cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
   Exchange runs
   continuously.
   
   After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log. 
   Also, when simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub
   databases, but Dir.edb
   is not available.
   
   Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
  Backup started
   on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item
  \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use -
   skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
   
   Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
  Backup started
   on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item
  \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use -
   skipped.
   
   Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other 
 problems 
   the logs suggested? Also, what added functionality does 
 the Exchange
   Agent provide?
   
   Thanks
   
   Nik
   
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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Caprari, Sam 2100

You set the deleted item retention default for the private info store on
each server to 20 days.  And publish that any thing after 20 days is lost
unless it is the president of the company then you build another Exchange
server in a lab and restore the whole server then get his mail. lol 

Sam Caprari
MCP, MCSE W2K, CNA, A+
Intracorp
Sr. NT Systems Manager

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-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Read the FAQ

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 If you should forget the mailbox stuff - how do you proceed 
 if a user deletes any mails permanently and you have to 
 restore them wihtout bothering the other users?
 
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 13:48
  An: Exchange Discussions
  Betreff: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  Yes.
  And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  Hi
  
  Thanks for the response
  
  Well, we do have the exchange agent
  
  I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options 
  (Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now exclude the 
  exchsrvr folders on the normal backup folder selections?
  
  Thanks
  
  Nik
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just
  do a normal
  backup without stopping the exchange services. The services 
  are accessing
  these files while beeing online. That's why the backup 
  program cannot save
  them to the tape.
  
  If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to
  backup your
  exchange files while your exchange service is online. 
  Furthermore you can
  backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the 
  whole database as
  you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole 
  thing at once.
  
  Mike
  
   -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
   Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
   An: Exchange Discussions
   Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   Dear All,
   
   I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards 
 backing up 
   Exchange with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
   
   I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT 
 drive in the 
   Exchange server (used to be across network, offline file 
 copy backup
  to another
   backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup all
   local drives,
   without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
   folders. I have
   cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
   Exchange runs
   continuously.
   
   After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log. 
   Also, when simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub
   databases, but Dir.edb
   is not available.
   
   Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
  Backup started
   on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item
  \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use -
   skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
   
   Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
  Backup started
   on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item
  \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use -
   skipped.
   
   Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other 
 problems 
   the logs suggested? Also, what added functionality does 
 the Exchange
   Agent provide?
   
   Thanks
   
   Nik
   
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Re: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Daniel Chenault

Use the BackupExec Exchange agent. This is covered in the docs.

- Original Message -
From: Niki Blowfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:13 AM
Subject: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


 Dear All,

 I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards backing up
Exchange
 with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.

 I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive in the
Exchange
 server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup to another
 backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup all local drives,
 without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange folders. I
have
 cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that Exchange runs
 continuously.

 After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log. Also, when
 simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub databases, but Dir.edb
 is not available.

 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
 Backup started on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 .
 The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - skipped.
 The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.

 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
 Backup started on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 .
 The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - skipped.

 Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other problems the
logs
 suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange Agent provide?

 Thanks

 Nik

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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Roger Seielstad

In almost 5 years, I've restored exactly 1 mailbox to recover data, and that
was an HR issue.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Caprari, Sam 2100 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:02 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 You set the deleted item retention default for the private 
 info store on each server to 20 days.  And publish that any 
 thing after 20 days is lost unless it is the president of the 
 company then you build another Exchange server in a lab and 
 restore the whole server then get his mail. lol 
 
 Sam Caprari
 MCP, MCSE W2K, CNA, A+
 Intracorp
 Sr. NT Systems Manager
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Confidential, unpublished property of Intracorp.
 Do not duplicate or distribute
 Use and distribution limited solely to authorized personnel.
 © Copyright 2002 (Intracorp)
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:55 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Read the FAQ
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:16 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  If you should forget the mailbox stuff - how do you proceed
  if a user deletes any mails permanently and you have to 
  restore them wihtout bothering the other users?
  
  
   -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
   Von: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 13:48
   An: Exchange Discussions
   Betreff: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   Yes.
   And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   Hi
   
   Thanks for the response
   
   Well, we do have the exchange agent
   
   I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
   (Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now 
 exclude the 
   exchsrvr folders on the normal backup folder selections?
   
   Thanks
   
   Nik
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a 
   normal backup without stopping the exchange services. The services
   are accessing
   these files while beeing online. That's why the backup 
   program cannot save
   them to the tape.
   
   If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be 
 able to backup 
   your exchange files while your exchange service is online.
   Furthermore you can
   backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the 
   whole database as
   you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole 
   thing at once.
   
   Mike
   
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
An: Exchange Discussions
Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Dear All,

I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards
  backing up
Exchange with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the 
 Exchange Agent.

I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT
  drive in the
Exchange server (used to be across network, offline file
  copy backup
   to another
backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply 
 backup all local 
drives, without doing anything to specifically identify the 
Exchange folders. I have
cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
Exchange runs
continuously.

After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log.
Also, when simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub
databases, but Dir.edb
is not available.

Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
   Backup started
on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item
   \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use -
skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.

Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
   Backup started
on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item
   \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use -
skipped.

Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other
  problems
the logs suggested? Also, 

RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Andy David

lol
Same here. Once in 5 years.


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


In almost 5 years, I've restored exactly 1 mailbox to recover data, and that
was an HR issue.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Caprari, Sam 2100 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:02 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 You set the deleted item retention default for the private 
 info store on each server to 20 days.  And publish that any 
 thing after 20 days is lost unless it is the president of the 
 company then you build another Exchange server in a lab and 
 restore the whole server then get his mail. lol 
 
 Sam Caprari
 MCP, MCSE W2K, CNA, A+
 Intracorp
 Sr. NT Systems Manager
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Confidential, unpublished property of Intracorp.
 Do not duplicate or distribute
 Use and distribution limited solely to authorized personnel.
 © Copyright 2002 (Intracorp)
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:55 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Read the FAQ
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:16 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  If you should forget the mailbox stuff - how do you proceed
  if a user deletes any mails permanently and you have to 
  restore them wihtout bothering the other users?
  
  
   -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
   Von: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 13:48
   An: Exchange Discussions
   Betreff: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   Yes.
   And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   Hi
   
   Thanks for the response
   
   Well, we do have the exchange agent
   
   I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
   (Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now 
 exclude the 
   exchsrvr folders on the normal backup folder selections?
   
   Thanks
   
   Nik
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a 
   normal backup without stopping the exchange services. The services
   are accessing
   these files while beeing online. That's why the backup 
   program cannot save
   them to the tape.
   
   If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be 
 able to backup 
   your exchange files while your exchange service is online.
   Furthermore you can
   backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the 
   whole database as
   you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole 
   thing at once.
   
   Mike
   
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
An: Exchange Discussions
Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Dear All,

I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards
  backing up
Exchange with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the 
 Exchange Agent.

I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT
  drive in the
Exchange server (used to be across network, offline file
  copy backup
   to another
backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply 
 backup all local 
drives, without doing anything to specifically identify the 
Exchange folders. I have
cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
Exchange runs
continuously.

After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log.
Also, when simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub
databases, but Dir.edb
is not available.

Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
   Backup started
on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item
   \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use -
skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.

Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up 

RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Andy David

8.6 something... 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Thanks for all the advice, whats the latest version of BE?





-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


More than double! 
Use good deleted item retention policies, keep a recovery server at the
ready and practice your restores frequently and update your BE! 

 


-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Hi Andy,

Yes, I was doing a flat file backup. I've removed the exchsrvr folders now
though.

Does including the mailbox option in effect double up your backup by virtue
of you backing up the information store?

Thanks

Nik


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Yes.
And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.


-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Hi

Thanks for the response

Well, we do have the exchange agent

I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
(Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now exclude the exchsrvr
folders on the normal backup folder selections?

Thanks

Nik


-Original Message-
From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a normal
backup without stopping the exchange services. The services are accessing
these files while beeing online. That's why the backup program cannot save
them to the tape.

If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be able to backup your
exchange files while your exchange service is online. Furthermore you can
backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the whole database as
you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole thing at once.

Mike

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
 An: Exchange Discussions
 Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards backing up
 Exchange with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.
 
 I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive in the
 Exchange server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup 
 to another backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup 
 all local drives,
 without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange 
 folders. I have
 cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
 Exchange runs
 continuously.
 
 After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log. Also,
 when simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub
 databases, but Dir.edb
 is not available.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started 
 on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - 
 skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.
 
 Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit Backup started 
 on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 . The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - 
 skipped.
 
 Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other problems the
 logs suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange
 Agent provide?
 
 Thanks
 
 Nik
 
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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Atkinson, Daniel


 He doesnt need the Exchange Agent to do an online Exchange-aware backup of
 the store. 

Really, how? I think the exchange options are greyed out in our backup exec
until you install the agent. 

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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Andy David

On a 5.5 Server using V8.6 , all I have had installed is the 8.6 Nt/W2k
Remote Agent - not the Exchange Agent. I have been able to back the store up
(not the mailboxes however). Maybe I am freak of nature! 
(Nonetheless, I prefer to do my backups with NTBackup). 

-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5



 He doesnt need the Exchange Agent to do an online Exchange-aware backup of
 the store. 

Really, how? I think the exchange options are greyed out in our backup exec
until you install the agent. 

Dan

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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Martin Blackstone

You still need the agent

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Dear All,

I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards backing up Exchange
with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the Exchange Agent.

I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT drive in the Exchange
server (used to be across network, offline file copy backup to another
backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply backup all local drives,
without doing anything to specifically identify the Exchange folders. I have
cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that Exchange runs
continuously.

After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log. Also, when
simulating a restore, I can select the Priv and Pub databases, but Dir.edb
is not available.

Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
Backup started on 07/03/02 at 02:01:03 .
The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\edb.log in use - skipped.
The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped.

Backup Type: NORMAL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit
Backup started on 07/03/02 at 02:57:01 .
The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb in use - skipped.

Any advice on how to get dir.edb backed up, and any other problems the logs
suggested? Also, what added functionality does the Exchange Agent provide?

Thanks

Nik

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RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Hunter, Lori

Hey, same here!  It turned out to be ONE E-MAIL!!  The looks on our faces
had to be just precious.  Fear, incredulity, ANGER!!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


lol
Same here. Once in 5 years.


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


In almost 5 years, I've restored exactly 1 mailbox to recover data, and that
was an HR issue.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Caprari, Sam 2100 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:02 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 You set the deleted item retention default for the private 
 info store on each server to 20 days.  And publish that any 
 thing after 20 days is lost unless it is the president of the 
 company then you build another Exchange server in a lab and 
 restore the whole server then get his mail. lol 
 
 Sam Caprari
 MCP, MCSE W2K, CNA, A+
 Intracorp
 Sr. NT Systems Manager
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:55 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
 
 
 Read the FAQ
 
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 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:16 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
  
  
  If you should forget the mailbox stuff - how do you proceed
  if a user deletes any mails permanently and you have to 
  restore them wihtout bothering the other users?
  
  
   -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
   Von: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 13:48
   An: Exchange Discussions
   Betreff: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   Yes.
   And forget the mailbox stuff. Waste of time and tapes.
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   Hi
   
   Thanks for the response
   
   Well, we do have the exchange agent
   
   I've altered the selection list to include the 3 Exchange options
   (Directory, Information Store, and Mailboxes) do I now 
 exclude the 
   exchsrvr folders on the normal backup folder selections?
   
   Thanks
   
   Nik
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mike Tonazzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 07 March 2002 12:24
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: AW: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
   
   
   I don't know what advice you were given, but you cannot just do a 
   normal backup without stopping the exchange services. The services
   are accessing
   these files while beeing online. That's why the backup 
   program cannot save
   them to the tape.
   
   If you install the Veritas Exchange Agent you will be 
 able to backup 
   your exchange files while your exchange service is online.
   Furthermore you can
   backup and restore user's postoffices. If you backup the 
   whole database as
   you think of now, you will only be able to restore the whole 
   thing at once.
   
   Mike
   
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 10:13
An: Exchange Discussions
Betreff: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


Dear All,

I got some advice here earlier in the week with regards
  backing up
Exchange with Veritas Backup Exec 8.5 without the 
 Exchange Agent.

I have altered our backup setup here by putting a DAT
  drive in the
Exchange server (used to be across network, offline file
  copy backup
   to another
backup server) and allowing Backup Exec to simply 
 backup all local 
drives, without doing anything to specifically identify the 
Exchange folders. I have
cancelled the batch file that stopped the services, so that 
Exchange runs
continuously.

After backup, I receive the following errors in the backup log.
Also, when simulating a restore, I can select the Priv 

RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5

2002-03-07 Thread Soysal, Serdar

That's what we do here as well.  Works with just the NT/W2K remote agent.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5


On a 5.5 Server using V8.6 , all I have had installed is the 8.6 Nt/W2k
Remote Agent - not the Exchange Agent. I have been able to back the store up
(not the mailboxes however). Maybe I am freak of nature! 
(Nonetheless, I prefer to do my backups with NTBackup). 

-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5



 He doesnt need the Exchange Agent to do an online Exchange-aware 
 backup of the store.

Really, how? I think the exchange options are greyed out in our backup exec
until you install the agent. 

Dan

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