RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-13 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

So far, we have stopped two instances of the Fretham.e variant of this
virus.  However, we use a little bit different security model than some of
you folks do.  Our mail relay box is a Linux box, running Qmail.  We block
quite a list of file extensions at that point.  Now...whether it's because
of the Linux part or the Qmail part, our mail relayer sees through the
extension spoofing that these particular virii employ.

We have updated all of our IE deployments to patch the vulnerability
employed by this virus.  The BadTrans, Klez and SirCam viruses all use this
same blended threat mechanism.

Keep in mind however, that while your GS is not scanning attachments because
they are several layers deep in the forwarding process, that your GS is
probably also not scanning attachments that appear to be different file
types than they really are, due to extension spoofing.

All of these virii allow attached files to look as if they are a different
file type.  For example, you are blocking .exe files, but due to certain
vulnerabilities, the attachment appears as a .wav file to a Windows machine
and you're not blocking .wav files, so it lets it through.  When the worm
arrives by email, it uses both an IFRAME exploit and a MIME exploit, which
allow the virus to be executed when you read or even preview the file.
Information and a patch for MIME exploit can be found at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp.  The
Frethem.E write-up can be found at
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/pf/w32.frethem.e@mm.
html

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Note do not assume the WS product will catch the EXE.
If it is in the first layer then yes likely it will. 

BUT if it happens to be in like 2 or more layers (layer..I mean FW 
FW..etc)
it will miss it...every time

But yes GS should then get it...if it's working right ;-)

bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
 -Peter
 
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-13 Thread Ken . Powell

I have believe that I have stopped FW:, FW:, FW: ,etc. before. I think that
this is really the problem/danger with WS. It will work flawlessly on one
installation and completely miss on others.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:28 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Note do not assume the WS product will catch the EXE.
If it is in the first layer then yes likely it will. 

BUT if it happens to be in like 2 or more layers (layer..I mean FW 
FW..etc)
it will miss it...every time

But yes GS should then get it...if it's working right ;-)

bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
 -Peter
 
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-13 Thread Hansen, Eric

Although their tech sup is terrifically stupid(imo) that webshield appliance
is sweet.

We dumped our desktop NAI solution based on the lack of expertise of their
tech supp department, once they came back and told us once that they wern't
sure if they could support the Groupshield product anymore we knew we were
in trouble.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

possible...But when I talked with disgust.. a bit with NAI on the phone
about WS-SMTP and this...and basically their response was..Yep...it'll
miss'em...IF you really want to get them, then buy our Websheild
Applicane..

bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


I have believe that I have stopped FW:, FW:, FW: ,etc. before. I think that
this is really the problem/danger with WS. It will work flawlessly on one
installation and completely miss on others.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:28 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Note do not assume the WS product will catch the EXE.
If it is in the first layer then yes likely it will. 

BUT if it happens to be in like 2 or more layers (layer..I mean FW 
FW..etc)
it will miss it...every time

But yes GS should then get it...if it's working right ;-)

bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
 -Peter
 
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-13 Thread Mellott, Bill

Yeh I looked at the small applianceand went round them bend with them on
how they bundle itIt was pathetic the answers I got..
Boiled down to too much $$ for me and they where going to jam their hardware
down my thought, and they wouldn't play nicedid sound cool...

Tech suppI find it hit and miss.. had good... had bad...

bill

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Although their tech sup is terrifically stupid(imo) that webshield appliance
is sweet.

We dumped our desktop NAI solution based on the lack of expertise of their
tech supp department, once they came back and told us once that they wern't
sure if they could support the Groupshield product anymore we knew we were
in trouble.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

possible...But when I talked with disgust.. a bit with NAI on the phone
about WS-SMTP and this...and basically their response was..Yep...it'll
miss'em...IF you really want to get them, then buy our Websheild
Applicane..

bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


I have believe that I have stopped FW:, FW:, FW: ,etc. before. I think that
this is really the problem/danger with WS. It will work flawlessly on one
installation and completely miss on others.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:28 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Note do not assume the WS product will catch the EXE.
If it is in the first layer then yes likely it will. 

BUT if it happens to be in like 2 or more layers (layer..I mean FW 
FW..etc)
it will miss it...every time

But yes GS should then get it...if it's working right ;-)

bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
 -Peter
 
 
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 person for whom this message is intended, please delete it
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-13 Thread Ken . Powell

I think that you may be confusing what he was saying. I think that Bill was
talking about WS (Webshield SMTP) not being able to or missing attachments
that are further down due to multiple forwarding.

What you are talking about having done with your Linux box and Qmail is
basically what is being done with WS. I block as I am sure Bill does
multiple attachment types so if the attachment comes in disguised as a WAV
file it gets blocked as well.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:21 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

So far, we have stopped two instances of the Fretham.e variant of this
virus.  However, we use a little bit different security model than some of
you folks do.  Our mail relay box is a Linux box, running Qmail.  We block
quite a list of file extensions at that point.  Now...whether it's because
of the Linux part or the Qmail part, our mail relayer sees through the
extension spoofing that these particular virii employ.

We have updated all of our IE deployments to patch the vulnerability
employed by this virus.  The BadTrans, Klez and SirCam viruses all use this
same blended threat mechanism.

Keep in mind however, that while your GS is not scanning attachments because
they are several layers deep in the forwarding process, that your GS is
probably also not scanning attachments that appear to be different file
types than they really are, due to extension spoofing.

All of these virii allow attached files to look as if they are a different
file type.  For example, you are blocking .exe files, but due to certain
vulnerabilities, the attachment appears as a .wav file to a Windows machine
and you're not blocking .wav files, so it lets it through.  When the worm
arrives by email, it uses both an IFRAME exploit and a MIME exploit, which
allow the virus to be executed when you read or even preview the file.
Information and a patch for MIME exploit can be found at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp.  The
Frethem.E write-up can be found at
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/pf/w32.frethem.e@mm.
html

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Note do not assume the WS product will catch the EXE.
If it is in the first layer then yes likely it will. 

BUT if it happens to be in like 2 or more layers (layer..I mean FW 
FW..etc)
it will miss it...every time

But yes GS should then get it...if it's working right ;-)

bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages

RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-13 Thread Ken . Powell

That seems to be their answer to everything lately. I got the full court
press to go to the e500 as well. The only thing that really intrigues me is
the ability to check/scan/stop web-based mail as well.

WS SMTP has really worked well for us. I have not had the problems that
others have had it seems with support. I take that back, I did used to have
problems until we upped our support to a higher level. I never wait more
than 1 minute and get escalated pretty quickly. Also, the TVDUG on Yahoo
groups has a lot of NAI back line support people on it.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:19 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Yeh I looked at the small applianceand went round them bend with them on
how they bundle itIt was pathetic the answers I got..
Boiled down to too much $$ for me and they where going to jam their hardware
down my thought, and they wouldn't play nicedid sound cool...

Tech suppI find it hit and miss.. had good... had bad...

bill

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Although their tech sup is terrifically stupid(imo) that webshield appliance
is sweet.

We dumped our desktop NAI solution based on the lack of expertise of their
tech supp department, once they came back and told us once that they wern't
sure if they could support the Groupshield product anymore we knew we were
in trouble.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

possible...But when I talked with disgust.. a bit with NAI on the phone
about WS-SMTP and this...and basically their response was..Yep...it'll
miss'em...IF you really want to get them, then buy our Websheild
Applicane..

bill

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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


I have believe that I have stopped FW:, FW:, FW: ,etc. before. I think that
this is really the problem/danger with WS. It will work flawlessly on one
installation and completely miss on others.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
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-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:28 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Note do not assume the WS product will catch the EXE.
If it is in the first layer then yes likely it will. 

BUT if it happens to be in like 2 or more layers (layer..I mean FW 
FW..etc)
it will miss it...every time

But yes GS should then get it...if it's working right ;-)

bill

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Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Ken . Powell

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


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 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Mellott, Bill

Your answer/question might be better if phrased: Which DAT version.
Run the latest DAT, with that the Webshield 54sp1a 
product I run before my exch server picks it up.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Which McAfee product found it as Exploit-MIME? 

-Peter


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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:54
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Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Durkee, Peter

No, I really meant which product. I have VirusScan on the desktops with the 4206 dats, 
and the NAI engine running under Antigen on the Exchange server, also with the 4206 
dats, and neither of those caught it. To be honest though I don't think any of the few 
people who received it tried to run it, nor did it run itself on those machines, so 
maybe VirusScan never had a chance to catch it. 

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:42
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Your answer/question might be better if phrased: Which DAT version.
Run the latest DAT, with that the Webshield 54sp1a 
product I run before my exch server picks it up.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Which McAfee product found it as Exploit-MIME? 

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread O'Conner, Jim

WebshieldSMTP caught it as Exploit-MIME.gen.  

Antigen with the 2 CA Engines enabled are usually the only ones that I can
get to catch the exploit.  Sybari has also added this to their worm list, so
that may improve.

--jim


-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


No, I really meant which product. I have VirusScan on the desktops with the
4206 dats, and the NAI engine running under Antigen on the Exchange server,
also with the 4206 dats, and neither of those caught it. To be honest though
I don't think any of the few people who received it tried to run it, nor did
it run itself on those machines, so maybe VirusScan never had a chance to
catch it. 

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:42
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Your answer/question might be better if phrased: Which DAT version.
Run the latest DAT, with that the Webshield 54sp1a 
product I run before my exch server picks it up.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Which McAfee product found it as Exploit-MIME? 

-Peter


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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:54
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Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Mellott, Bill

Ooop's ..sorry..
I try not to let it get that far.
my Websheild -SMTP 45sp1 has 4205 on it right now..I see these things all
the time.
Exchange55sp4 server is GS45.1 (no laughing please..it run's).

I also have the Websheild set for some content/attachment blocking (does
this poorly)
GS451 is also set for attachment blocking/stripping if something get's by
the webshield(which it does all the time)..

Ive not gotten into the setup deeply for the desktop with regard to it's
intergration with OL, But I do believe you must go into the OL and set it to
watch the OL

bill


-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


No, I really meant which product. I have VirusScan on the desktops with the
4206 dats, and the NAI engine running under Antigen on the Exchange server,
also with the 4206 dats, and neither of those caught it. To be honest though
I don't think any of the few people who received it tried to run it, nor did
it run itself on those machines, so maybe VirusScan never had a chance to
catch it. 

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:42
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Your answer/question might be better if phrased: Which DAT version.
Run the latest DAT, with that the Webshield 54sp1a 
product I run before my exch server picks it up.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Which McAfee product found it as Exploit-MIME? 

-Peter


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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:54
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Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Ken . Powell

Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
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Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Durkee, Peter

I think any that you received before yesterday must've been from the klez virus, which 
uses the same exploit. I've seen a few of those myself.

-Peter


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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 16:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Ken . Powell

No, I can see numbers for all of the Klez variations as well (eml = 6, e =
2, h = 58, dam = 4). MIME Exploit = 326.

Ken Powell
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Vancouver, Washington
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-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:37 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

I think any that you received before yesterday must've been from the klez
virus, which uses the same exploit. I've seen a few of those myself.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 16:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
 -Peter
 
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Ken . Powell

That may be true.

Ken Powell
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Vancouver, Washington
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-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:52 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

But it couldn't be W32.Frethem.E@mm either, as that one was only discovered
yesterday. 

I haven't seen nearly as many MIME Exploits as you have, but the ones I have
seen can be identified as Klez by the distinctive subject lines,  and the
obviously spoofed from addresses. I think maybe they were Klezes that had
their attachments removed by someone else's AV software, leaving the exploit
still in place.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 16:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


No, I can see numbers for all of the Klez variations as well (eml = 6, e =
2, h = 58, dam = 4). MIME Exploit = 326.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:37 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

I think any that you received before yesterday must've been from the klez
virus, which uses the same exploit. I've seen a few of those myself.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 16:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
 -Peter
 
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-12 Thread Mellott, Bill

Note do not assume the WS product will catch the EXE.
If it is in the first layer then yes likely it will. 

BUT if it happens to be in like 2 or more layers (layer..I mean FW 
FW..etc)
it will miss it...every time

But yes GS should then get it...if it's working right ;-)

bill

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Webshield SMTP 4.51 MR1a with engine 4160. As far as DAT files, it has been
catching it since as far back as the middle of last month (my ePO records do
not go back any further.) Even if the engine and DAT files had not been up
to date WS would have stopped it due to us blocking all executables.

I would assume that GS would have caught it if it had made it that far since
it is running the same engine and dat versions.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

We have been seeing it for a couple of days. McAfee has been reporting it as
Exploit-MIME.gen.

I just got something from Sophos giving it the name that John reported it
as. It has been showing up quite a lot lately.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
 -Peter
 
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-11 Thread John Steniger

Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
 don't have anything on it.
 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-11 Thread Durkee, Peter

Yup, that's it, thanks.

-Peter


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From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?


Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Hi All,
 I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
 subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
 decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
 that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
 size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
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RE: Possible New Virus?

2002-06-11 Thread John Steniger

Curses.  Tack an l onto the end of that link and it oughta work.  


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Possible New Virus?
 
 
 Appears to be a Frethem Worm.  From Norton:
 
 http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.fr
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 l
 
 John J. Steniger
 Network and Security Manager
 Familymeds, Inc.
 Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.familymeds.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:22 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Possible New Virus?
  
  
  Hi All,
  I've seen several messages coming in this morning with the 
  subject line Re: Your Password!, an attachment named 
  decrypt-password.exe, and the same Content-Type: audio/x-midi 
  that Klez uses to auto-run. The messages are 50k or so in 
  size. Is anyone else seeing this? My usual virus info sources 
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  -Peter
  
  
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