RE: SMTP Question

2002-03-05 Thread Billups, Mort

That's what I told them to do. Just trying to be supportive and hopefully
right at the same time. I know they don't totally believe me, but they're
going to try it anyway. The head Unix guy is looking for a SendMail 'how to
do it' book right now. I have other applications that relay through the IMC.
Of course they are all using a @crowley.com in the From address. Thanks for
your response!

Mort Billups

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


I believe hotmail does reverse-dns lookups.  Don't know about mediaone[1].
The UNIX guys don't have to modify their boxes, they simply need to put a
valid From: address[2], that's all.

Serdar Soysal

[1] Since MediaOne was bought out by ComCast, it is really a very bad test
platform.  ANYTHING can go wrong with ComCast.  Their systems are in
complete disarray and their tech support folks are completely clueless at
best.  It's like trying to have drunk squirrels  troubleshoot a nuclear
reactor leak.

[2] If your company's internet presence (MX record) is crowley.com, they
should be sending messages to the Internet from and address like
username@crowley.com, not [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can
give them a public folder with a certain valid username and tell them to use
that email address in the From: field when they're sending.




-Original Message-
From: Billups, Mort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


The tests are to personal Internet email accounts (hotmail, mediaone). I
also believe the failure of the lookups is the problem. The Unix guys aren't
to excited about modifying their boxes, so I wanted to be sure it didn't
have anything to do with the IMC or on our internal DNS. 
I am still researching. Thanks for your response.


Mort Billups
Crowley Maritime Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


Tests to where?  I'm thinking that if your IMC is configured to allow this
machine by IP address, that error isn't being generated by your Exchange
box, but by the remote host, which is trying to do a lookup on your Unix box
and failing. 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:23 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: SMTP Question
 Subject: SMTP Question
 
 
 Hi,
 Our Unix folks are trying to send mail via our Exchange IMC
 box. Their machine is allow to relay in the IMC routing 
 configuration. In tests the mail fails delivery with an error 
 message 553 5.1.8 Domain of sender address does not exist. 
 The From address of the email has the FQDN of the server. I 
 believe it fails because any reverse lookups will be unable 
 to resolve the domain name in the From address. Do I 
 understand this correctly? Just trying to do my homework.
 
 Mort Billups
 Crowley Maritime Corporation

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RE: SMTP Question

2002-03-05 Thread Billups, Mort

Hi Jim,
The Unix box in question is configured in the IMC to relay. I have other
applications that relay fine with @crowley.com in the From address. The Unix
folks are going to configure their mail to use a @crowley.com address.
Hopefully they can figure out how to do it.
Thanks! 

Mort Billups

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


Mort,

EXACTLY do you have your IMS configured?  I currently have eight (8)
internal Unix/Linux boxes relaying off my Exchange servers to the outside
world, and it's working just fine.

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


I believe hotmail does reverse-dns lookups.  Don't know about mediaone[1].
The UNIX guys don't have to modify their boxes, they simply need to put a
valid From: address[2], that's all.

Serdar Soysal

[1] Since MediaOne was bought out by ComCast, it is really a very bad test
platform.  ANYTHING can go wrong with ComCast.  Their systems are in
complete disarray and their tech support folks are completely clueless at
best.  It's like trying to have drunk squirrels  troubleshoot a nuclear
reactor leak.

[2] If your company's internet presence (MX record) is crowley.com, they
should be sending messages to the Internet from and address like
username@crowley.com, not [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can
give them a public folder with a certain valid username and tell them to use
that email address in the From: field when they're sending.




-Original Message-
From: Billups, Mort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


The tests are to personal Internet email accounts (hotmail, mediaone). I
also believe the failure of the lookups is the problem. The Unix guys aren't
to excited about modifying their boxes, so I wanted to be sure it didn't
have anything to do with the IMC or on our internal DNS. 
I am still researching. Thanks for your response.


Mort Billups
Crowley Maritime Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


Tests to where?  I'm thinking that if your IMC is configured to allow this
machine by IP address, that error isn't being generated by your Exchange
box, but by the remote host, which is trying to do a lookup on your Unix box
and failing. 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:23 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: SMTP Question
 Subject: SMTP Question
 
 
 Hi,
 Our Unix folks are trying to send mail via our Exchange IMC
 box. Their machine is allow to relay in the IMC routing 
 configuration. In tests the mail fails delivery with an error 
 message 553 5.1.8 Domain of sender address does not exist. 
 The From address of the email has the FQDN of the server. I 
 believe it fails because any reverse lookups will be unable 
 to resolve the domain name in the From address. Do I 
 understand this correctly? Just trying to do my homework.
 
 Mort Billups
 Crowley Maritime Corporation

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RE: SMTP Question

2002-03-04 Thread Soysal, Serdar

I believe hotmail does reverse-dns lookups.  Don't know about mediaone[1].
The UNIX guys don't have to modify their boxes, they simply need to put a
valid From: address[2], that's all.

Serdar Soysal

[1] Since MediaOne was bought out by ComCast, it is really a very bad test
platform.  ANYTHING can go wrong with ComCast.  Their systems are in
complete disarray and their tech support folks are completely clueless at
best.  It's like trying to have drunk squirrels  troubleshoot a nuclear
reactor leak.

[2] If your company's internet presence (MX record) is crowley.com, they
should be sending messages to the Internet from and address like
username@crowley.com, not [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can
give them a public folder with a certain valid username and tell them to use
that email address in the From: field when they're sending.




-Original Message-
From: Billups, Mort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


The tests are to personal Internet email accounts (hotmail, mediaone). I
also believe the failure of the lookups is the problem. The Unix guys aren't
to excited about modifying their boxes, so I wanted to be sure it didn't
have anything to do with the IMC or on our internal DNS. 
I am still researching. Thanks for your response.


Mort Billups
Crowley Maritime Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


Tests to where?  I'm thinking that if your IMC is configured to allow this
machine by IP address, that error isn't being generated by your Exchange
box, but by the remote host, which is trying to do a lookup on your Unix box
and failing. 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:23 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: SMTP Question
 Subject: SMTP Question
 
 
 Hi,
 Our Unix folks are trying to send mail via our Exchange IMC
 box. Their machine is allow to relay in the IMC routing 
 configuration. In tests the mail fails delivery with an error 
 message 553 5.1.8 Domain of sender address does not exist. 
 The From address of the email has the FQDN of the server. I 
 believe it fails because any reverse lookups will be unable 
 to resolve the domain name in the From address. Do I 
 understand this correctly? Just trying to do my homework.
 
 Mort Billups
 Crowley Maritime Corporation

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RE: SMTP Question

2002-03-04 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Mort,

EXACTLY do you have your IMS configured?  I currently have eight (8)
internal Unix/Linux boxes relaying off my Exchange servers to the outside
world, and it's working just fine.

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


I believe hotmail does reverse-dns lookups.  Don't know about mediaone[1].
The UNIX guys don't have to modify their boxes, they simply need to put a
valid From: address[2], that's all.

Serdar Soysal

[1] Since MediaOne was bought out by ComCast, it is really a very bad test
platform.  ANYTHING can go wrong with ComCast.  Their systems are in
complete disarray and their tech support folks are completely clueless at
best.  It's like trying to have drunk squirrels  troubleshoot a nuclear
reactor leak.

[2] If your company's internet presence (MX record) is crowley.com, they
should be sending messages to the Internet from and address like
username@crowley.com, not [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can
give them a public folder with a certain valid username and tell them to use
that email address in the From: field when they're sending.




-Original Message-
From: Billups, Mort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


The tests are to personal Internet email accounts (hotmail, mediaone). I
also believe the failure of the lookups is the problem. The Unix guys aren't
to excited about modifying their boxes, so I wanted to be sure it didn't
have anything to do with the IMC or on our internal DNS. 
I am still researching. Thanks for your response.


Mort Billups
Crowley Maritime Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


Tests to where?  I'm thinking that if your IMC is configured to allow this
machine by IP address, that error isn't being generated by your Exchange
box, but by the remote host, which is trying to do a lookup on your Unix box
and failing. 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:23 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: SMTP Question
 Subject: SMTP Question
 
 
 Hi,
 Our Unix folks are trying to send mail via our Exchange IMC
 box. Their machine is allow to relay in the IMC routing 
 configuration. In tests the mail fails delivery with an error 
 message 553 5.1.8 Domain of sender address does not exist. 
 The From address of the email has the FQDN of the server. I 
 believe it fails because any reverse lookups will be unable 
 to resolve the domain name in the From address. Do I 
 understand this correctly? Just trying to do my homework.
 
 Mort Billups
 Crowley Maritime Corporation

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Re: SMTP Question

2002-03-01 Thread Tony Hlabse

Which version of Exchange?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: SMTP Question


 Hi,
 Our Unix folks are trying to send mail via our Exchange IMC box. Their
 machine is
 allow to relay in the IMC routing configuration. In tests the mail fails
 delivery with
 an error message 553 5.1.8 Domain of sender address does not exist. The
 From address
 of the email has the FQDN of the server. I believe it fails because any
 reverse lookups
 will be unable to resolve the domain name in the From address. Do I
 understand this
 correctly? Just trying to do my homework.
 
 Mort Billups
 Crowley Maritime Corporation
 
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RE: SMTP Question

2002-03-01 Thread mort . billups

Sorry about that.
Exchange 5.5 SP4. An additional note, I tried the same using
the SMTP service in IIS4.0 and got the same results.

Mort Billups
Crowley Maritime Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: SMTP Question


Which version of Exchange?

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: SMTP Question


 Hi,
 Our Unix folks are trying to send mail via our Exchange IMC box. Their
 machine is
 allow to relay in the IMC routing configuration. In tests the mail fails
 delivery with
 an error message 553 5.1.8 Domain of sender address does not exist. The
 From address
 of the email has the FQDN of the server. I believe it fails because any
 reverse lookups
 will be unable to resolve the domain name in the From address. Do I
 understand this
 correctly? Just trying to do my homework.
 
 Mort Billups
 Crowley Maritime Corporation
 
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RE: SMTP Question

2002-03-01 Thread Morgan, Joshua

Does your DNS have an Entry for the Domain that this Unix Box Resides own?




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


Sorry about that.
Exchange 5.5 SP4. An additional note, I tried the same using the SMTP
service in IIS4.0 and got the same results.

Mort Billups
Crowley Maritime Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: SMTP Question


Which version of Exchange?

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: SMTP Question


 Hi,
 Our Unix folks are trying to send mail via our Exchange IMC box. Their 
 machine is allow to relay in the IMC routing configuration. In tests 
 the mail fails delivery with
 an error message 553 5.1.8 Domain of sender address does not exist. The
 From address
 of the email has the FQDN of the server. I believe it fails because any
 reverse lookups
 will be unable to resolve the domain name in the From address. Do I
 understand this
 correctly? Just trying to do my homework.
 
 Mort Billups
 Crowley Maritime Corporation
 
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RE: SMTP Question

2002-03-01 Thread Billups, Mort

The tests are to personal Internet email accounts (hotmail, mediaone).
I also believe the failure of the lookups is the problem. The Unix
guys aren't to excited about modifying their boxes, so I wanted to be
sure it didn't have anything to do with the IMC or on our internal DNS. 
I am still researching. Thanks for your response.


Mort Billups
Crowley Maritime Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Question


Tests to where?  I'm thinking that if your IMC is configured to allow
this machine by IP address, that error isn't being generated by your
Exchange box, but by the remote host, which is trying to do a lookup on
your Unix box and failing. 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:23 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: SMTP Question
 Subject: SMTP Question
 
 
 Hi,
 Our Unix folks are trying to send mail via our Exchange IMC 
 box. Their machine is allow to relay in the IMC routing 
 configuration. In tests the mail fails delivery with an error 
 message 553 5.1.8 Domain of sender address does not exist. 
 The From address of the email has the FQDN of the server. I 
 believe it fails because any reverse lookups will be unable 
 to resolve the domain name in the From address. Do I 
 understand this correctly? Just trying to do my homework.
 
 Mort Billups
 Crowley Maritime Corporation

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