RE: Stop NDR

2002-11-14 Thread Roger Seielstad
Actually, that's not going to stop them.

If mail gets delivered directly to Exchange, just make sure their address
doesn't exist in the system. If you have a mail relay in front of Exchange,
then you want to be able to set that to reject those addresses.

The reason being that, over time, rejected addresses get pruned out of spam
lists, which means you stop receiving that mail. Blackholing it, as Tony
suggest, will work, but that won't get the address off the lists.

We're in the process of recovering an old corporate domain which hasn't been
actively used in two years (due to a period of time in which we were owned
by another company). We've been actively rejecting all but a small white
list of addresses for that domain for the last 3 months, and have seen a
steady decline of total spam, and a total decline in the number of
connections for spam to the old addresses.

As I've said before, if you accept spam for delivery on any of your systems,
you won't be able to stem its tide. That's one of the reaons I don't think
things like Trend's eManager, or most of the other antispam, content
inspecting solutions work - they accept the mail before testing it, so its
just an expensive, automated delete key.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:thlabse;hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:37 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Stop NDR
 
 
 Create a list with no email address and put them on the list. 
 All email sent
 to people belonging to the list will just disappear. It's 
 called creating a
 blackhole.
 
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 Subject: Stop NDR
 
 
  I have a number of employees that are no longer with our 
 company and I
  receive a large number of NDR's for mailing lists, SPAM, 
 etc. that they
  signed up for.  What is the best way to eliminate these?  I 
 am running
  Exch 2K.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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RE: Stop NDR

2002-11-14 Thread Hanna, Keith
You know Vanessa as well?


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From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:DurkeeP;LanePowell.com]
Sent: 14 November 2002 00:11
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Subject: RE: Stop NDR


You need to deploy the old Black Hole DL trick. Make a Distribution List with no 
members, and assign it the smtp addresses of the departed employees. The messages will 
come in to the DL, be delivered to nobody, and then vanish.

Be aware, however, that the senders will receive no indication that they sent to a bad 
address. For this reason I generally don't add departed people's addresses to the 
Black Hole list until they've been gone for awhile and the only people who are still 
sending to them are people like [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Peter


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Subject: Stop NDR


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signed up for.  What is the best way to eliminate these?  I am running
Exch 2K.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Stop NDR

2002-11-13 Thread Tony Hlabse
Create a list with no email address and put them on the list. All email sent
to people belonging to the list will just disappear. It's called creating a
blackhole.

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 signed up for.  What is the best way to eliminate these?  I am running
 Exch 2K.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Stop NDR

2002-11-13 Thread Akerlund, Scott
Most of us create either a dummy mailbox or Public Folder.  Then assign the
addresses in question to said mailbox or pf and set it to auto delete into
never never land.



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Subject: Stop NDR

I have a number of employees that are no longer with our company and I
receive a large number of NDR's for mailing lists, SPAM, etc. that they
signed up for.  What is the best way to eliminate these?  I am running
Exch 2K.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Stop NDR

2002-11-13 Thread Drew Nicholson
Figure out a way to unsubscribe them, usually by putting their profile
on your system, and reading the mail that comes in and unsubscribing.

Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
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receive a large number of NDR's for mailing lists, SPAM, etc. that they
signed up for.  What is the best way to eliminate these?  I am running
Exch 2K.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Stop NDR

2002-11-13 Thread William Lefkovics
 
If you aren't interested in resolving them, add their former SMTP
address as a secondary to a distribution group with no members.  They
will disappear.

William 
 
 
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I have a number of employees that are no longer with our company and I
receive a large number of NDR's for mailing lists, SPAM, etc. that they
signed up for.  What is the best way to eliminate these?  I am running
Exch 2K.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.



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RE: Stop NDR

2002-11-13 Thread Durkee, Peter
You need to deploy the old Black Hole DL trick. Make a Distribution List with no 
members, and assign it the smtp addresses of the departed employees. The messages will 
come in to the DL, be delivered to nobody, and then vanish.

Be aware, however, that the senders will receive no indication that they sent to a bad 
address. For this reason I generally don't add departed people's addresses to the 
Black Hole list until they've been gone for awhile and the only people who are still 
sending to them are people like [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Peter


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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stop NDR


I have a number of employees that are no longer with our company and I
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signed up for.  What is the best way to eliminate these?  I am running
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RE: Stop NDR

2002-11-13 Thread Andy David
Create A Distribution Group, add to it all the SMTP addresses of the users
that are no longer there, hide the group. Emails disappear. No NDR. 

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Exch 2K.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Stop NDR

2002-11-13 Thread Andy David
resend
Create A Distribution Group with no members, add to it all the SMTP
addresses of the users that are no longer there, hide the group. Emails
disappear. No NDR. 

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signed up for.  What is the best way to eliminate these?  I am running
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Re: Stop NDR

2002-11-13 Thread Daniel Chenault
1. Create a dummy alias
2. Add the no-longer-valid addresses to that dummy as alternates
3. Identify the lists
4. Unsub those addresses from those lists

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