RE: Strange NDR

2003-08-14 Thread Roger Seielstad
It means that the mail relay clientmail2.amicus.com either A) doesn't like
you or 2) is horribly isconfigured by someone who shouldn't be touching
production mail systems.

I'd vote for A personally, but I could see 2 as a valid option too..

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Strange NDR
 
 
 
 We got this strange NDR.  Does anyone know what it means?  
 Been looking
 it up but I can't find what the web bugs not accepted here message
 means.  This was generated by our external 
 
 You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For assistance,
 contact your system administrator.
  clientmail2.amicus.com #5.7.1 SMTP; 554 5.7.1 Web bugs not accepted
 here (qid: h7EJQ7Mn023111), caught on imbaspam-ny04
 
 Thanks,
 Carmila
 
 
 You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For assistance,
 contact your system administrator.
  clientmail2.amicus.com #5.7.1 SMTP; 554 5.7.1 Web bugs not accepted
 here (qid: h7EJQ7Mn023111), caught on imbaspam-ny04
 
 
 
 
 This email message may contain information that is 
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 the sender and destroy the original and any copies of the 
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RE: Strange NDR

2003-08-14 Thread Carmila Fresco
Amicus is our external relay.  They cannot like us since we pay them. 


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It means that the mail relay clientmail2.amicus.com either A) doesn't
like you or 2) is horribly isconfigured by someone who shouldn't be
touching production mail systems.

I'd vote for A personally, but I could see 2 as a valid option too..

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Strange NDR
 
 
 
 We got this strange NDR.  Does anyone know what it means?  
 Been looking
 it up but I can't find what the web bugs not accepted here message 
 means.  This was generated by our external
 
 You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For assistance,

 contact your system administrator.
  clientmail2.amicus.com #5.7.1 SMTP; 554 5.7.1 Web bugs not accepted 
 here (qid: h7EJQ7Mn023111), caught on imbaspam-ny04
 
 Thanks,
 Carmila
 
 
 You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For assistance,

 contact your system administrator.
  clientmail2.amicus.com #5.7.1 SMTP; 554 5.7.1 Web bugs not accepted 
 here (qid: h7EJQ7Mn023111), caught on imbaspam-ny04
 
 
 
 
 This email message may contain information that is confidential and 
 proprietary to Babcock  Brown or a third party.  If you are not the 
 intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original

 and any copies of the original message.  Babcock  Brown takes 
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 Babcock  Brown cannot guarantee that email messages will not be 
 intercepted by third parties or that email messages will be free of 
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RE: Strange NDR

2003-08-14 Thread Carmila Fresco
Anyways, I figured it out.  He was forwarding a yahoo email
message(html) and it had an embedded GIF image on it that may be acting
as a beacon. 


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It means that the mail relay clientmail2.amicus.com either A) doesn't
like you or 2) is horribly isconfigured by someone who shouldn't be
touching production mail systems.

I'd vote for A personally, but I could see 2 as a valid option too..

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Strange NDR
 
 
 
 We got this strange NDR.  Does anyone know what it means?  
 Been looking
 it up but I can't find what the web bugs not accepted here message 
 means.  This was generated by our external
 
 You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For assistance,

 contact your system administrator.
  clientmail2.amicus.com #5.7.1 SMTP; 554 5.7.1 Web bugs not accepted 
 here (qid: h7EJQ7Mn023111), caught on imbaspam-ny04
 
 Thanks,
 Carmila
 
 
 You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For assistance,

 contact your system administrator.
  clientmail2.amicus.com #5.7.1 SMTP; 554 5.7.1 Web bugs not accepted 
 here (qid: h7EJQ7Mn023111), caught on imbaspam-ny04
 
 
 
 
 This email message may contain information that is confidential and 
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 intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original

 and any copies of the original message.  Babcock  Brown takes 
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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-11 Thread Brown, Mark
Have a look for a hidden mailbox called hidden by jjones 12/6/02

It could be that whoever (or whatever if it is an automated job) bcc'ed the
email to this hidden mailbox, that appears to have restrictions on the size
of emails it can receive.

In the past I have hidden mailboxes and restricted delivery sizes to them
instead of actually deleting the mailbox when the staff member has left.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 8:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange NDR


Received a strange NDR today. On an e-mail sent to someone outside the
organization and the delivery failed. On the NDR it said Your message

  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready

did not reach the following recipient(s):

hidden by jjones 12/6/02 lastname, firstname on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:25:58
-0500
The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to take
delivery

Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones part? I am the postmaster for our
server and I am not doing anything to the message. I am not even the person
that sent the e-mail. Any ideas?

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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-11 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Guys, hidden by jjones 12/6/02 is what he typed in there I think to
hide the users display name. That isn't the actual text of the error

-Original Message-
From: Brown, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange NDR


Have a look for a hidden mailbox called hidden by jjones 12/6/02

It could be that whoever (or whatever if it is an automated job) bcc'ed
the email to this hidden mailbox, that appears to have restrictions on
the size of emails it can receive.

In the past I have hidden mailboxes and restricted delivery sizes to
them instead of actually deleting the mailbox when the staff member has
left.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 8:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange NDR


Received a strange NDR today. On an e-mail sent to someone outside the
organization and the delivery failed. On the NDR it said Your message

  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready

did not reach the following recipient(s):

hidden by jjones 12/6/02 lastname, firstname on Mon, 9 Dec 2002
15:25:58 -0500
The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to
take delivery

Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones part? I am the postmaster for
our server and I am not doing anything to the message. I am not even the
person that sent the e-mail. Any ideas?

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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-11 Thread Brown, Mark
If you read the message to quote: Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones
part? I am the postmaster for our server and I am not doing anything to the
message. I am not even the person that sent the e-mail. Any ideas?

That indicates to me that the hidden by jjones is part of the error message.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 2:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange NDR


Guys, hidden by jjones 12/6/02 is what he typed in there I think to hide
the users display name. That isn't the actual text of the error

-Original Message-
From: Brown, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange NDR


Have a look for a hidden mailbox called hidden by jjones 12/6/02

It could be that whoever (or whatever if it is an automated job) bcc'ed the
email to this hidden mailbox, that appears to have restrictions on the size
of emails it can receive.

In the past I have hidden mailboxes and restricted delivery sizes to them
instead of actually deleting the mailbox when the staff member has left.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 8:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange NDR


Received a strange NDR today. On an e-mail sent to someone outside the
organization and the delivery failed. On the NDR it said Your message

  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready

did not reach the following recipient(s):

hidden by jjones 12/6/02 lastname, firstname on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:25:58
-0500
The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to take
delivery

Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones part? I am the postmaster for our
server and I am not doing anything to the message. I am not even the person
that sent the e-mail. Any ideas?

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Re: Strange NDR

2002-12-11 Thread Daniel Chenault
Ah... little light goes on

A clear example of why obfuscating data when asking for help tends to cause
problems.

- Original Message -
From: Hutchins, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Strange NDR


Guys, hidden by jjones 12/6/02 is what he typed in there I think to
hide the users display name. That isn't the actual text of the error

-Original Message-
From: Brown, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange NDR


Have a look for a hidden mailbox called hidden by jjones 12/6/02

It could be that whoever (or whatever if it is an automated job) bcc'ed
the email to this hidden mailbox, that appears to have restrictions on
the size of emails it can receive.

In the past I have hidden mailboxes and restricted delivery sizes to
them instead of actually deleting the mailbox when the staff member has
left.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 8:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange NDR


Received a strange NDR today. On an e-mail sent to someone outside the
organization and the delivery failed. On the NDR it said Your message

  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready

did not reach the following recipient(s):

hidden by jjones 12/6/02 lastname, firstname on Mon, 9 Dec 2002
15:25:58 -0500
The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to
take delivery

Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones part? I am the postmaster for
our server and I am not doing anything to the message. I am not even the
person that sent the e-mail. Any ideas?

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Re: Strange NDR

2002-12-10 Thread Jerry J.
Actually what happens is that when I type in the e-mail address that
generated the NDR the alt-K it underlines it. The user with this address
exists at a different company with a different mail server of what type is
unknown to me. Here at my company there are very few users and I already
have the logging cranked up and see nothing.
Here is a copy of the NDR with names changed to protect the innocent.
Your message

  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready

did not reach the following recipient(s):

hidden by jjones 12/6/02 Guy, Some on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:25:58 -0500
The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to
take
delivery

So we sent Some Guy an e-mail letting him know that his e-report is ready
for him to view and this is the NDR that I got back. Now if I type
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and alt-k it underlines it.
It says that something was hidden by me but everyone who got this NDR sees
the same thing as in the hidden by part.

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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-10 Thread Daniel Chenault
I'll assume 5.5; in Exchange Administrator View:Hidden Recipients.

-Original Message-
From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Strange NDR


Actually what happens is that when I type in the e-mail address that
generated the NDR the alt-K it underlines it. The user with this address
exists at a different company with a different mail server of what type is
unknown to me. Here at my company there are very few users and I already
have the logging cranked up and see nothing. Here is a copy of the NDR with
names changed to protect the innocent. Your message

  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready

did not reach the following recipient(s):

hidden by jjones 12/6/02 Guy, Some on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:25:58 -0500
The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to take
delivery

So we sent Some Guy an e-mail letting him know that his e-report is ready
for him to view and this is the NDR that I got back. Now if I type
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and alt-k it underlines it. It says that something
was hidden by me but everyone who got this NDR sees the same thing as in the
hidden by part.

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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-10 Thread Mark Harford
it sounds like a consequence of some administrators interpretation of part 2
of the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method at
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm

Mark

-Original Message-
From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 10 December 2002 06:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Strange NDR


You could use logging to see if the user is sending such mails. Anyway it 
will tell you if such mails are send from your network or at least via your 
server.

Make sure your server is not an open relay.

If it was up to me I would check the queue's too. Spammers usually don't 
send just one message..


--B


At 13:47 09-12-2002 -0800, you wrote:
Received a strange NDR today. On an e-mail sent to someone outside the 
organization and the delivery failed. On the NDR it said Your message

   To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready

did not reach the following recipient(s):

hidden by jjones 12/6/02 lastname, firstname on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 
15:25:58 -0500
 The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to 
take delivery

Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones part? I am the postmaster for 
our server and I am not doing anything to the message. I am not even 
the person that sent the e-mail. Any ideas?

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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-10 Thread Jerry J.
So you are saying that when I view hidden recipients that the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] should be listed?
When I view hidden I have 2 ditro lists and some folders listed but none
that get this NDR. Actually there is nothing hidden that has an address in
the NDR or the original e-mail whatsoever.
 I'll assume 5.5; in Exchange Administrator View:Hidden Recipients.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Strange NDR
 
 
 Actually what happens is that when I type in the e-mail address that
 generated the NDR the alt-K it underlines it. The user with this address
 exists at a different company with a different mail server of what type is
 unknown to me. Here at my company there are very few users and I already
 have the logging cranked up and see nothing. Here is a copy of the NDR with
 names changed to protect the innocent. Your message
 
   To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready
 
 did not reach the following recipient(s):
 
 hidden by jjones 12/6/02 Guy, Some on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:25:58 -0500
 The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to take
 delivery
 
 So we sent Some Guy an e-mail letting him know that his e-report is ready
 for him to view and this is the NDR that I got back. Now if I type
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and alt-k it underlines it. It says that something
 was hidden by me but everyone who got this NDR sees the same thing as in the
 hidden by part.
 
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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-09 Thread Chris Scharff
If you type in the SMTP address in question and hit Alt-K, what does it
resolve to?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:48 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Received a strange NDR today. On an e-mail sent to someone 
 outside the organization and the delivery failed. On the NDR 
 it said Your message
 
   To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready
 
 did not reach the following recipient(s):
 
 hidden by jjones 12/6/02 lastname, firstname on Mon, 9 Dec 
 2002 15:25:58 -0500
 The content length of the message is too long for the 
 recipient to take delivery
 
 Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones part? I am the 
 postmaster for our server and I am not doing anything to the 
 message. I am not even the person that sent the e-mail.
 Any ideas?
 
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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-09 Thread Jerry J.
If you are talking about outlook I type it in and Alt-k and it keeps it
the same, just underlines it. It is a good mailbox for the server as he
has been getting e-mails all day. I have left him a voicemail asking him
to send me an e-mail to confirm that address is not mistyped at all.

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RE: Strange NDR

2002-12-09 Thread Daniel Chenault
You mean you type hidden by jjones in the TO: box and it underlines it?
Then it is a recipient on the server assumedly created, and hidden, by
jjones. 

-Original Message-
From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange NDR


If you are talking about outlook I type it in and Alt-k and it keeps it the
same, just underlines it. It is a good mailbox for the server as he has been
getting e-mails all day. I have left him a voicemail asking him to send me
an e-mail to confirm that address is not mistyped at all.

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Re: Strange NDR

2002-12-09 Thread Simon Devine
Has someone unwelcome hacked into your network and used your account to
do odd things at all. It does look odd.

Might be worth turning up Logging on the IMS to high, switching on
Auditing for yourself then watching the Event Log carefully for a little
while. I may be wrong, but one never knows

... Anyone else, please do correct if I am just being a bit too paranoid
here.


On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 21:47, Jerry J. wrote:
 
 
 
 Received a strange NDR today. On an e-mail sent to someone outside the
 organization and the delivery failed. On the NDR it said
 Your message
 
   To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready
 
 did not reach the following recipient(s):
 
 hidden by jjones 12/6/02 lastname, firstname on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:25:58
 -0500
 The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to
 take
 delivery
 
 Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones part? I am the postmaster for
 our server and I am not doing anything to the message. I am not even the
 person that sent the e-mail.
 Any ideas?
 
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Re: Strange NDR

2002-12-09 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk
You could use logging to see if the user is sending such mails. Anyway it 
will tell you if such mails are send from your network or at least via your 
server.

Make sure your server is not an open relay.

If it was up to me I would check the queue's too. Spammers usually don't 
send just one message..


--B


At 13:47 09-12-2002 -0800, you wrote:
Received a strange NDR today. On an e-mail sent to someone outside the
organization and the delivery failed. On the NDR it said
Your message

  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Your telemanager.net e-report is ready

did not reach the following recipient(s):

hidden by jjones 12/6/02 lastname, firstname on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:25:58
-0500
The content length of the message is too long for the recipient to
take
delivery

Now, what is up with the hidden by jjones part? I am the postmaster for
our server and I am not doing anything to the message. I am not even the
person that sent the e-mail.
Any ideas?

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