RE: Transaction Logs
What? Who? -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs No, the other thing. That. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs it -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs Reuses what? -Original Message- From: Arshad Rafat Khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Transaction Logs Exchange reuses it _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
No, the other thing. That. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs it -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs Reuses what? -Original Message- From: Arshad Rafat Khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Transaction Logs Exchange reuses it _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Exchange -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 March 2002 01:00 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs Reuses what? -Original Message- From: Arshad Rafat Khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Transaction Logs Exchange reuses it _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and attachments have been scanned for the presence of computer viruses, but neither Millfield Group plc nor any of its subsidiary companies will accept responsibility for any virus or defect. This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. They may contain legally privileged information, and may not be disclosed to anyone else. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies from your system. Further information is available at: www.millfield-partnership.co.uk Millfield Partnership Limited is regulated by the FSA. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
it -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs Reuses what? -Original Message- From: Arshad Rafat Khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Transaction Logs Exchange reuses it _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Reuses what? -Original Message- From: Arshad Rafat Khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Transaction Logs Exchange reuses it _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transaction Logs
Exchange reuses it _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Thanks to all for the help and suggestions. I will monitor the directory to see if this becomes a problem. > That looks fine to me. If the number of log files keeps > growing and older logs aren't being deleted then you have > problems. > > Phil > > - > Phil Randal > Network Engineer > Herefordshire Council > Hereford, UK > > > -Original Message- > > From: ExchDiscList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 19 March 2002 14:47 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Transaction Logs > > > > > > Andy, > > > > These are the files we are seeing. Of note, I ran the backup > > @ 6:42 am. > > > > 03/19/2002 06:42a 5,242,880 edb.log > > 03/18/2002 01:46p 5,242,880 edb8.log > > 03/18/2002 03:03p 5,242,880 edb9.log > > 03/19/2002 04:10a 5,242,880 edbA.log > > 03/19/2002 06:42a 5,242,880 edbB.log > > 03/17/2002 08:49p 5,242,880 res1.log > > 03/17/2002 08:49p 5,242,880 res2.log > > > > I think the res1&2 and edb should always be there, but I was not sure > > about the rest. > > > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > > > > -Original Message- > > The directory will not be empty. There will always be 4-8 log > > files left > > after even a full backup. If you have 20 left, then > > something's not set > > right. > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
That looks fine to me. If the number of log files keeps growing and older logs aren't being deleted then you have problems. Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -Original Message- > From: ExchDiscList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 19 March 2002 14:47 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Transaction Logs > > > Andy, > > These are the files we are seeing. Of note, I ran the backup > @ 6:42 am. > > 03/19/2002 06:42a 5,242,880 edb.log > 03/18/2002 01:46p 5,242,880 edb8.log > 03/18/2002 03:03p 5,242,880 edb9.log > 03/19/2002 04:10a 5,242,880 edbA.log > 03/19/2002 06:42a 5,242,880 edbB.log > 03/17/2002 08:49p 5,242,880 res1.log > 03/17/2002 08:49p 5,242,880 res2.log > > I think the res1&2 and edb should always be there, but I was not sure > about the rest. > > Thanks, > Jim > > > -Original Message- > The directory will not be empty. There will always be 4-8 log > files left > after even a full backup. If you have 20 left, then > something's not set > right. > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Phil, I just replied to Andy with a directory listing. Does that look similar to what you were seeing? Thanks, Jim -Original Message- I've seen this once before after switching from circular logging. What I noticed was a discontiguous range of log file "numbers". After carefully examining the log file date / timestamps I deleted the oldest (leaving at least 2 days worth as we do daily full backups) and rebooted the server (stopping and restarting the IS service would probably have sufficed). The next morning the extraneous log files were gone, and there have been no problems since. Cheers, Phil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Andy, These are the files we are seeing. Of note, I ran the backup @ 6:42 am. 03/19/2002 06:42a 5,242,880 edb.log 03/18/2002 01:46p 5,242,880 edb8.log 03/18/2002 03:03p 5,242,880 edb9.log 03/19/2002 04:10a 5,242,880 edbA.log 03/19/2002 06:42a 5,242,880 edbB.log 03/17/2002 08:49p 5,242,880 res1.log 03/17/2002 08:49p 5,242,880 res2.log I think the res1&2 and edb should always be there, but I was not sure about the rest. Thanks, Jim -Original Message- The directory will not be empty. There will always be 4-8 log files left after even a full backup. If you have 20 left, then something's not set right. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
I've seen this once before after switching from circular logging. What I noticed was a discontiguous range of log file "numbers". After carefully examining the log file date / timestamps I deleted the oldest (leaving at least 2 days worth as we do daily full backups) and rebooted the server (stopping and restarting the IS service would probably have sufficed). The next morning the extraneous log files were gone, and there have been no problems since. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -Original Message- > From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 19 March 2002 14:32 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Transaction Logs > > > The directory will not be empty. There will always be 4-8 > log files left > after even a full backup. If you have 20 left, then > something's not set > right. > > -Original Message- > From: ExchDiscList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Transaction Logs > > > We have Exchange 5.4 SP4 on Windows 2000. We have just > started disabling > Circular Logging. > > After doing a backup, it doesn't look like the transaction logs are > disappearing. I have tried two different backup products and did full > online backups. > > Should the mdbdata directory empty after the backup, or does > exchange simply > reuse the existing logs? > > Thanks, > Jim > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
The directory will not be empty. There will always be 4-8 log files left after even a full backup. If you have 20 left, then something's not set right. -Original Message- From: ExchDiscList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Transaction Logs We have Exchange 5.4 SP4 on Windows 2000. We have just started disabling Circular Logging. After doing a backup, it doesn't look like the transaction logs are disappearing. I have tried two different backup products and did full online backups. Should the mdbdata directory empty after the backup, or does exchange simply reuse the existing logs? Thanks, Jim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Everything looks normal in the logs. I receive the 104 message: MSExchangeIS (1416) The database engine has stopped the backup procedure. Thanks, Jim -Original Message- Are the backups completing successfully each time or are there any events in the logs? - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems & Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Are the backups completing successfully each time or are there any events in the logs? - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems & Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: ExchDiscList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 March 2002 13:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs Yes, all attempts have been full backups. >> And it is after a full backup and not diff? - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems & Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Yes, all attempts have been full backups. >> And it is after a full backup and not diff? - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems & Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
And it is after a full backup and not diff? - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems & Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: ExchDiscList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 March 2002 13:31 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs Yes sir. The Tivoli product is Exchange Specific and NTBackup is being ran from the console of the Exchange server with the Admin installed. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Yes sir. The Tivoli product is Exchange Specific and NTBackup is being ran from the console of the Exchange server with the Admin installed. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Exchange aware? -Original Message- From: ExchDiscList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Transaction Logs Tivoli EDP and NTBackup. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Tivoli EDP and NTBackup. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction Logs
Which products? -Original Message- From: ExchDiscList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Transaction Logs We have Exchange 5.4 SP4 on Windows 2000. We have just started disabling Circular Logging. After doing a backup, it doesn't look like the transaction logs are disappearing. I have tried two different backup products and did full online backups. Should the mdbdata directory empty after the backup, or does exchange simply reuse the existing logs? Thanks, Jim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Transaction logs..
Usman, This should be a simple calculation. Estimate the size required for a reasonably busy day, to allow for backup failures multiply by the number of days you can afford to miss. If you don't backup at weekends add in the weekend traffic. Given that your logs should ideally be in a physically separate spindle, round up to the next multiple of available drive size. Chances are that a single 9GB drive will be sufficient (its difficult to find anything smaller these days). regards, Richard Dann -Original Message- From: Usman Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 August 2001 15:51 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Transaction logs.. Is there a standard metric/percentage of what size the tranaction log drive should be? for example if your storage group contains 5 databases each with a 32 gb capacity, how large should you transaction log drive be? Also taking into account that there are nightly backups and circular logging is not enabled. thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nextra is the trading name of CIX (Compulink Information Exchange), Norsk Data and XTML, all of whom are part of the Nextra Group. Nextra, a division of international telecoms organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service Provider. For information on products and services click on www.nextra.co.uk. With the exclusion of purchase orders/requests with reference to repair quotations the views, information and opinion contained in this e-mail are that of the author. Where it is intended to place reliance upon any statement made, then a formal confirmation should be requested. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
