RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-09-04 Thread Soysal, Serdar


This list has a very high concentration of cool people.  I love the flavor
too.  Adds fun to the day.  One thing people don't understand is almost all
posts that aren't in the FAQ and have adequate information are answered in
great detail by a very large group of willing experts.  There's no hostility
towards newbies.  

S.

PS:  Ed Woodrick is missed!
PS2: I think the flames in this list are very moderate.  If you want to see
serious flaming, post a vulgar cat joke to a cat-lovers list.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



"You like me, you really like me."


Your case is well taken, I just thought that Larry had a point. A point
often brought up right behind Favorite Virus Checker, Disclaimer, How do I
tell if I have Standard or Enterprise

The reputation of this list is well known. I am on several lists, many of
which have nothing to do with Exchange, and the *flavor* of this list is
well known. That being said, I find it hard to believe that someone would
not know what they were in for when they join.

I never had the pleasure of being on the list when Peter ran it. I have
heard it spoken of quite fondly though. As for back when we had 2 Ed's, I
miss Mr. Woodrick as well. I had the pleasure of *sitting at his feet* at a
conference once. He even turned me on the getting a GPS to find my way
around cities when I am away at all of those conferences :)

A junior Admin or newbie list will not find much use though I fear. It is
known that this is the place to go for all things Exchange. If they knew
enough to go to the other list, then they would also know enough to research
their questions first.

I know that I get better than consultant answers here and am amazed at what
information is distributed freely here all for the *love* of Exchange.

I need to go now, I am getting all verklempt!!!


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:(360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


I know who you are, Ken.  :)

In any case, my curiosity was really spurred by the intervention of someone
who has not, in the past 18 months or so, posted to this list.  I can check
the archives back to the beginning, but that's really not my point at all.

I do think that this list is often out of hand - and it's been up and down
like this since I've been a member of it.  Sometimes, the flames are wild,
other times, we're all quite nice.  The only thing that doesn't change is
Ed.  :)  (It was even more fun when we had two Ed's!)

In any case, a list for nice questions about Exchange is fine.  Maybe even a
newbie, or Jr. Admin list.  The fact is, and you know this, that the stuff
that's covered in the FAQ is covered in the FAQ.  If someone wants to pay me
to do consulting, I'll be happy to bring their business to the company where
I work.

When I first joined this list, it had a reputation.  It is what it is.  I
miss Peter's quiet interventions, but, other than that, I think we're just
fine.

I'm rambling though.  Later...
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-30 Thread msharik

Um, Jesus wasn't in the book of Job

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Reader, suppose you were an idiot.  And suppose you were a member of
Congress.  But I repeat myself.  --Mark Twain" 
-


-Original Message-
From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




YES! Jessuu has spoken!! Slap my forehead now please


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 29, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the newsgroups,
all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet
offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and perhaps a signal to this group
that you can be excellent without attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> > list, just
> > request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the 

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Ken . Powell


"You like me, you really like me."


Your case is well taken, I just thought that Larry had a point. A point
often brought up right behind Favorite Virus Checker, Disclaimer, How do I
tell if I have Standard or Enterprise

The reputation of this list is well known. I am on several lists, many of
which have nothing to do with Exchange, and the *flavor* of this list is
well known. That being said, I find it hard to believe that someone would
not know what they were in for when they join.

I never had the pleasure of being on the list when Peter ran it. I have
heard it spoken of quite fondly though. As for back when we had 2 Ed's, I
miss Mr. Woodrick as well. I had the pleasure of *sitting at his feet* at a
conference once. He even turned me on the getting a GPS to find my way
around cities when I am away at all of those conferences :)

A junior Admin or newbie list will not find much use though I fear. It is
known that this is the place to go for all things Exchange. If they knew
enough to go to the other list, then they would also know enough to research
their questions first.

I know that I get better than consultant answers here and am amazed at what
information is distributed freely here all for the *love* of Exchange.

I need to go now, I am getting all verklempt!!!


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:(360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


I know who you are, Ken.  :)

In any case, my curiosity was really spurred by the intervention of someone
who has not, in the past 18 months or so, posted to this list.  I can check
the archives back to the beginning, but that's really not my point at all.

I do think that this list is often out of hand - and it's been up and down
like this since I've been a member of it.  Sometimes, the flames are wild,
other times, we're all quite nice.  The only thing that doesn't change is
Ed.  :)  (It was even more fun when we had two Ed's!)

In any case, a list for nice questions about Exchange is fine.  Maybe even a
newbie, or Jr. Admin list.  The fact is, and you know this, that the stuff
that's covered in the FAQ is covered in the FAQ.  If someone wants to pay me
to do consulting, I'll be happy to bring their business to the company where
I work.

When I first joined this list, it had a reputation.  It is what it is.  I
miss Peter's quiet interventions, but, other than that, I think we're just
fine.

I'm rambling though.  Later...
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Softwar

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread PRamatowski

just turned it on! :-P



-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Hey!  You don't have an OOO setup do you?  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Sorry, I'm getting ready to go on vacation in 10 minutes (going to ride
my motorcycle around until next Tuesday or until my butt falls off
(whichever comes first)

Just getting jumpy about Bad Karma, Something_Breaking before I get
outta here, etc...

Plus, I hear this list can be tough sometimes :)

This was supposed to read "My apologies to anyone offended, Beer and
Fish Taco's are on me".  Maybe if I start saving now...

I do like Joel's networked pst idea...

 HA!



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Dude, we are just having some fun.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Oh, I just didn't put citation/permission/attribution in the in the body
of my post, it was (and still is in the subject...

My apologies to anyone offended, 

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I'd hate to be the idiot who originally posted that question somewhere
and then had it copied here without citation or permission...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Looks vaguely familiar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Where'd you get that from?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using
> > Arcserve.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Not without you there
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time
> there either.
> > Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy
> > koslosky
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, 
> > Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in
> the archives
> 
> > that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February 
> > 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> > 
> > Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was

> > on TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't
> > believe we're getting it.
> > 
> > You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I
> > don't think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I
> can go visit
> > the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
> > newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> > 
> > Missy
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT"

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Blackstone

Well, what are you sitting around here for? Go, leave, scram. Stand up,
scream and run out the door. 
Have fun

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Sorry, I'm getting ready to go on vacation in 10 minutes (going to ride
my motorcycle around until next Tuesday or until my butt falls off
(whichever comes first)

Just getting jumpy about Bad Karma, Something_Breaking before I get
outta here, etc...

Plus, I hear this list can be tough sometimes :)

This was supposed to read "My apologies to anyone offended, Beer and
Fish Taco's are on me".  Maybe if I start saving now...

I do like Joel's networked pst idea...

 HA!



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Dude, we are just having some fun.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Oh, I just didn't put citation/permission/attribution in the in the body
of my post, it was (and still is in the subject...

My apologies to anyone offended, 

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I'd hate to be the idiot who originally posted that question somewhere
and then had it copied here without citation or permission...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Looks vaguely familiar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Where'd you get that from?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using
> > Arcserve.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Not without you there
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time
> there either.
> > Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy
> > koslosky
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, 
> > Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in
> the archives
> 
> > that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February 
> > 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> > 
> > Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was

> > on TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't
> > believe we're getting it.
> > 
> > You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I
> > don't think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I
> can go visit
> > the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
> > newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> > 
> > Missy
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread PRamatowski

Sorry, I'm getting ready to go on vacation in 10 minutes (going to ride my
motorcycle around until next Tuesday or until my butt falls off (whichever
comes first)

Just getting jumpy about Bad Karma, Something_Breaking before I get outta
here, etc...

Plus, I hear this list can be tough sometimes :)

This was supposed to read "My apologies to anyone offended, Beer and Fish
Taco's are on me".  Maybe if I start saving now...

I do like Joel's networked pst idea...

 HA!



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Dude, we are just having some fun.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Oh, I just didn't put citation/permission/attribution in the in the body
of my post, it was (and still is in the subject...

My apologies to anyone offended, 

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I'd hate to be the idiot who originally posted that question somewhere
and then had it copied here without citation or permission...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Looks vaguely familiar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Where'd you get that from?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
> > Arcserve.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Not without you there
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time
> there either.
> > Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy 
> > koslosky
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
> > Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in 
> the archives
> 
> > that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
> > 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> > 
> > Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was

> > on TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't 
> > believe we're getting it.
> > 
> > You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I 
> > don't think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I
> can go visit
> > the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the 
> > newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> > 
> > Missy
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > See inline comments.
> > Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. 
> > Yes, SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than
> one person.
> > >
> > > 
&g

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Osborn, Joel

You have to use a .PST do do that. Preferably on a shared network drive. 

8-{J>

...Joel

How dare you use your constitutional right to question my contitutional
right to criticize your right to do away with my constitutional rights?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
Arcserve.

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone
=
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> >lists about  the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon 
> >myself=20  to create an
> > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite
and
> > sensitive to new Admin needs.
> >=20
> > This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization
that
> > different people learn different ways and it's time to have an  
&

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Erik Sojka

Fmuuh?  

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Oh, I just didn't put citation/permission/attribution in the 
> in the body of
> my post, it was (and still is in the subject...
> 
> My apologies to anyone offended, 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:45 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> I'd hate to be the idiot who originally posted that question 
> somewhere and
> then had it copied here without citation or permission...
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:37 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Looks vaguely familiar
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Where'd you get that from?  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using
> > > Arcserve.
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Not without you there
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > > 
> > > 
> > > LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time 
> > there either. 
> > > Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > > missy koslosky
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or 
> a "Duncan, 
> > > Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in 
> > the archives
> > 
> > > that I currently have available.  But they only go back 
> to February 
> > > 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> > > 
> > > Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman
> > > who was on
> > > TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I 
> don't believe
> > > we're getting it.
> > > 
> > > You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a
> > > success.  I don't
> > > think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I 
> > can go visit
> > > the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software 
> list, or the
> > > newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> > > 
> > > Missy
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> > > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > > 
> > > 
> > > See inline comments.
> > > Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the
> > > compliment. Yes,
> > > SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than 
> > one person.
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Have you even posted to this list?
> > > Yes, i

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Blackstone

Dude, we are just having some fun.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Oh, I just didn't put citation/permission/attribution in the in the body
of my post, it was (and still is in the subject...

My apologies to anyone offended, 

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I'd hate to be the idiot who originally posted that question somewhere
and then had it copied here without citation or permission...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Looks vaguely familiar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Where'd you get that from?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
> > Arcserve.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Not without you there....
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time
> there either.
> > Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy 
> > koslosky
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
> > Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in 
> the archives
> 
> > that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
> > 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> > 
> > Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was

> > on TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't 
> > believe we're getting it.
> > 
> > You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I 
> > don't think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I
> can go visit
> > the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the 
> > newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> > 
> > Missy
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > See inline comments.
> > Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. 
> > Yes, SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than
> one person.
> > >
> > > 
> > > Have you even posted to this list?
> > Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned 
> > off by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings
> > to webbased
> > only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.
> > 
> > You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are 
> > you? Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? 
> > The Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm

> > now providing a more user friendly environment for passing 
> > information regarding Exc

Re: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread missy koslosky

He's still around.  Just busy with projects and such.

M
- Original Message -
From: "Byron Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Yeah, what ever happened to Mr. Woodrick?  I miss his subtle approach to
exchange excellence :)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


I know who you are, Ken.  :)

In any case, my curiosity was really spurred by the intervention of someone
who has not, in the past 18 months or so, posted to this list.  I can check
the archives back to the beginning, but that's really not my point at all.

I do think that this list is often out of hand - and it's been up and down
like this since I've been a member of it.  Sometimes, the flames are wild,
other times, we're all quite nice.  The only thing that doesn't change is
Ed.  :)  (It was even more fun when we had two Ed's!)

In any case, a list for nice questions about Exchange is fine.  Maybe even a
newbie, or Jr. Admin list.  The fact is, and you know this, that the stuff
that's covered in the FAQ is covered in the FAQ.  If someone wants to pay me
to do consulting, I'll be happy to bring their business to the company where
I work.

When I first joined this list, it had a reputation.  It is what it is.  I
miss Peter's quiet interventions, but, other than that, I think we're just
fine.

I'm rambling though.  Later...
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-----
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the newsgroups,
all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

----- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet
offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and p

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Byron Kennedy

Yeah, what ever happened to Mr. Woodrick?  I miss his subtle approach to
exchange excellence :)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


I know who you are, Ken.  :)

In any case, my curiosity was really spurred by the intervention of someone
who has not, in the past 18 months or so, posted to this list.  I can check
the archives back to the beginning, but that's really not my point at all.

I do think that this list is often out of hand - and it's been up and down
like this since I've been a member of it.  Sometimes, the flames are wild,
other times, we're all quite nice.  The only thing that doesn't change is
Ed.  :)  (It was even more fun when we had two Ed's!)

In any case, a list for nice questions about Exchange is fine.  Maybe even a
newbie, or Jr. Admin list.  The fact is, and you know this, that the stuff
that's covered in the FAQ is covered in the FAQ.  If someone wants to pay me
to do consulting, I'll be happy to bring their business to the company where
I work.

When I first joined this list, it had a reputation.  It is what it is.  I
miss Peter's quiet interventions, but, other than that, I think we're just
fine.

I'm rambling though.  Later...
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the newsgroups,
all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet
offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and perhaps a signal to this group
that you can be excellent without attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: R

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread PRamatowski

Oh, I just didn't put citation/permission/attribution in the in the body of
my post, it was (and still is in the subject...

My apologies to anyone offended, 

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I'd hate to be the idiot who originally posted that question somewhere and
then had it copied here without citation or permission...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Looks vaguely familiar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Where'd you get that from?  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using
> > Arcserve.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Not without you there....
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time 
> there either. 
> > Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > missy koslosky
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, 
> > Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in 
> the archives
> 
> > that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February 
> > 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> > 
> > Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman
> > who was on
> > TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
> > we're getting it.
> > 
> > You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a
> > success.  I don't
> > think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I 
> can go visit
> > the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
> > newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> > 
> > Missy
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > See inline comments.
> > Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the
> > compliment. Yes,
> > SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than 
> one person.
> > >
> > > 
> > > Have you even posted to this list?
> > Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is
> > turned off
> > by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings 
> > to webbased
> > only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.
> > 
> > You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing
> > service, are you?
> > Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
> > Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
> > providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
> > regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
> > perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
> > attitude.
> > 
> > 
> > &g

Re: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Tuip

You forgot the spellchecker.


Martin

- Original Message -
From: "Black, Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


> I don't think this list is hostile, you just have to phrase your question
> correctly and very short as they rarely get read past the first 10 words.
> So if you start by asking the question (in less than 10 words) then
explain
> in detail later it helps the answers focus on the actual issue instead of
> getting goofy answers that don't apply to the question.
>
> ...But it helps to have a lead lined kevlar fire-proof suit of vanquishing
> magic.
>
>
> Nathan
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:54 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >
> >
> > Well, actually a "user non-hostile" exchange list IS
> > a good idea, but you didn't have to create one.  It
> > already exists, a real LISTSERV (tm) list with
> > searchable archives and everything!
> >
> > To subscribe send email to :
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > with "subscribe exchange-l firstname lastname"
> > in the body (YOUR first and last name)
> >
> > It's not as active, but it could be, and is
> > certainly got a different "tone".
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 13:50
> > >To: Exchange Discussions
> > >Subject: FW: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >
> > >
> > >I want to be a wizard. An Exchange Wizard!
> > >
> > >
> > >Michael Semiglia
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:39 PM
> > >To: Exchange Discussions
> > >Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >The elders? How about a game of D&D anyone?
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Josefowski, Larry
> > >Sent: August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
> > >To: Exchange Discussions
> > >Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to
> > >it, but if you
> > >do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the
> > >one thing
> > >that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe
> > >for a few days
> > >to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for
> > >a couple of
> > >weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was
> > quite honestly
> > >tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > >To: Exchange Discussions
> > >Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >
> > >
> > >I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the
> > >tone of this
> > >group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists
> > about the
> > >abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
> > >alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> > >sensitive to new Admin needs.
> > >
> > >This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> > >different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> > >alternative.
> > >
> > >I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do
> > >the same for
> > >us.
> > >
> > >For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel
> > >free to do so
> > >at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >_
> > >List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> > >Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
> > >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >

Re: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread missy koslosky

I know who you are, Ken.  :)

In any case, my curiosity was really spurred by the intervention of someone
who has not, in the past 18 months or so, posted to this list.  I can check
the archives back to the beginning, but that's really not my point at all.

I do think that this list is often out of hand - and it's been up and down
like this since I've been a member of it.  Sometimes, the flames are wild,
other times, we're all quite nice.  The only thing that doesn't change is
Ed.  :)  (It was even more fun when we had two Ed's!)

In any case, a list for nice questions about Exchange is fine.  Maybe even a
newbie, or Jr. Admin list.  The fact is, and you know this, that the stuff
that's covered in the FAQ is covered in the FAQ.  If someone wants to pay me
to do consulting, I'll be happy to bring their business to the company where
I work.

When I first joined this list, it had a reputation.  It is what it is.  I
miss Peter's quiet interventions, but, other than that, I think we're just
fine.

I'm rambling though.  Later...
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the newsgroups,
all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet
offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and perhaps a signal to this group
that you can be excellent without attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> > list, just
> > request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://La

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Drewski

nice site... :P

If you need it again, here it is:

FAQ.  Read it.  Love it.  Live it.

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

(bookmarking is good)

Drew (MOS)

KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html
Read my Column on OUTLOOKEXCHANGE.COM:
http://www.outlookexchange.com/articles/drewnicholson/default.asp
Pics of Max are BACK!  http://www.drewncapris.net

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Helfer
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



 Hello All,

  I'd just like to say that if I post to this a question to this list that
seems to result from some careless misconception or something that I missed
because I wasn't following instructions, PLEASE TELL ME.  There is always
the possibility that I have been proceeding in an idiotic fashion, and need
to be stopped before I do any real damage to myself or others.

 In addition, if I pose any "Frequently Asked Questions", I would apreciate
being directed to where the canonical answer is recorded, just in case I was
asking the wrong question, and to avoid any translations errors by a
2nd-hand explanations.

  Comparing the possibility of getting kicked in the butt once in a while
with the prospect of having my Exchange server crash because of a mail loop
and having to restore from a brick-level backup to a PDC without an
adequately tested Disaster Recovery procedures seems a worse deal[1].  For
me, my Company, my Users and my career.  If someone gets on over on me, it's
because I'm not on the ball.  Not because I'm being picked on.

  Personally, if I need uncritical encouragement and self-esteem building
validation of my personhood, I'll join a mailing list with this guy:

  http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/


 Jim Helfer
 WTW Architects
 Pittsburgh PA


[1] Some of the stuff that could have happened to me before I started
learning by reading this list



-Original Message-
From: Steve Hanna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




Long live this nasty a** list. The attitude of this list is one of it's most
valued properties. As a   "new" admin (in the exchange realm) this list has
forced me to be very, very diligent in my study and in the administration on
my company's investment. If this list should become user friendly it will
loose the school master appeal. I'm sure that we all have a school master
that we would like to go back and thank 10 or 15 years on.

just my $.02
--steve



> -Original Message-
> From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
>
>
> The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to
> it, but if you
> do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget
> the one thing
> that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe
> for a few days
> to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened
> for a couple of
> weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was
> quite honestly
> tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
>
>
> I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
> this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other
> lists about
> the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself
> to create an
> alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> sensitive to new Admin needs.
>
> This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> alternative.
>
> I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll
> do the same
> for us.
>
> For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel
> free to do so
> at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
>
>
>
> _
> List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> _
> List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_f

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Blackstone

No doubt...what a turd

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I'd hate to be the idiot who originally posted that question somewhere
and then had it copied here without citation or permission...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Looks vaguely familiar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Where'd you get that from?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
> > Arcserve.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Not without you there....
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time
> there either.
> > Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy 
> > koslosky
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
> > Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in 
> the archives
> 
> > that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
> > 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> > 
> > Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was

> > on TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't 
> > believe we're getting it.
> > 
> > You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I 
> > don't think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I
> can go visit
> > the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the 
> > newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> > 
> > Missy
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > See inline comments.
> > Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. 
> > Yes, SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than
> one person.
> > >
> > > 
> > > Have you even posted to this list?
> > Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned 
> > off by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings
> > to webbased
> > only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.
> > 
> > You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are 
> > you? Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? 
> > The Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm

> > now providing a more user friendly environment for passing 
> > information regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their

> > choice and perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent 
> > without attitude.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > > > To: 

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Erik Sojka

I'd hate to be the idiot who originally posted that question somewhere and
then had it copied here without citation or permission...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Looks vaguely familiar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Where'd you get that from?  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using
> > Arcserve.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Not without you there....
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time 
> there either. 
> > Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > missy koslosky
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, 
> > Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in 
> the archives
> 
> > that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February 
> > 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> > 
> > Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman
> > who was on
> > TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
> > we're getting it.
> > 
> > You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a
> > success.  I don't
> > think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I 
> can go visit
> > the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
> > newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> > 
> > Missy
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > 
> > 
> > See inline comments.
> > Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the
> > compliment. Yes,
> > SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than 
> one person.
> > >
> > > 
> > > Have you even posted to this list?
> > Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is
> > turned off
> > by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings 
> > to webbased
> > only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.
> > 
> > You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing
> > service, are you?
> > Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
> > Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
> > providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
> > regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
> > perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
> > attitude.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > I still maintain that if you don'

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Black, Nathan

I don't think this list is hostile, you just have to phrase your question
correctly and very short as they rarely get read past the first 10 words.
So if you start by asking the question (in less than 10 words) then explain
in detail later it helps the answers focus on the actual issue instead of
getting goofy answers that don't apply to the question.  

...But it helps to have a lead lined kevlar fire-proof suit of vanquishing
magic. 


Nathan

> -Original Message-
> From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:54 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Well, actually a "user non-hostile" exchange list IS
> a good idea, but you didn't have to create one.  It
> already exists, a real LISTSERV (tm) list with
> searchable archives and everything!
> 
> To subscribe send email to :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> with "subscribe exchange-l firstname lastname"
> in the body (YOUR first and last name)
> 
> It's not as active, but it could be, and is
> certainly got a different "tone".
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 13:50
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: FW: User Friendly Exchange List
> >
> >
> >I want to be a wizard. An Exchange Wizard!
> >
> >
> >Michael Semiglia
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:39 PM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >
> >
> >
> >The elders? How about a game of D&D anyone?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
> >Josefowski, Larry
> >Sent: August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >
> >
> >
> >The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to 
> >it, but if you
> >do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the 
> >one thing
> >that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe 
> >for a few days
> >to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for 
> >a couple of
> >weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was 
> quite honestly
> >tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >
> >
> >I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the 
> >tone of this
> >group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists 
> about the
> >abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
> >alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> >sensitive to new Admin needs.
> >
> >This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> >different people learn different ways and it's time to have an 
> >alternative.
> >
> >I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do 
> >the same for
> >us.
> >
> >For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel 
> >free to do so
> >at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> >
> >
> >
> >_
> >List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> >Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
> >To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Blackstone

Looks vaguely familiar

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Where'd you get that from?  

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using
> Arcserve.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Not without you there
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either. 
> Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> missy koslosky
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, 
> Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives

> that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February 
> 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> 
> Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman
> who was on
> TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
> we're getting it.
> 
> You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a
> success.  I don't
> think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
> the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
> newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> 
> Missy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> See inline comments.
> Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the
> compliment. Yes,
> SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
> >
> > 
> > Have you even posted to this list?
> Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is
> turned off
> by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings 
> to webbased
> only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.
> 
> You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing
> service, are you?
> Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
> Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
> providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
> regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
> perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
> attitude.
> 
> 
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20 
> > >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee. =20
> > > -Mich=E8le
> > > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > > -
> > > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > > never tell
> > > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > > -
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: OT: Use

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Blackstone

Do you?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Do you use Outlook? 

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Remember you're never too old to hold your father's hand." - Molly, age
11 
-


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
Arcserve.

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20 
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee. =20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone
=
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20 lists

> >about 

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Ken . Powell

Consider yourself slapped.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:(360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




YES! Jessuu has spoken!! Slap my forehead now please


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 29, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the newsgroups,
all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet
offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and perhaps a signal to this group
that you can be excellent without attitude.


> 
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> > list, just
> > request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday,

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Jim Helfer


 Hello All,

  I'd just like to say that if I post to this a question to this list that
seems to result from some careless misconception or something that I missed
because I wasn't following instructions, PLEASE TELL ME.  There is always
the possibility that I have been proceeding in an idiotic fashion, and need
to be stopped before I do any real damage to myself or others.

 In addition, if I pose any "Frequently Asked Questions", I would apreciate
being directed to where the canonical answer is recorded, just in case I was
asking the wrong question, and to avoid any translations errors by a
2nd-hand explanations.
  
  Comparing the possibility of getting kicked in the butt once in a while
with the prospect of having my Exchange server crash because of a mail loop
and having to restore from a brick-level backup to a PDC without an
adequately tested Disaster Recovery procedures seems a worse deal[1].  For
me, my Company, my Users and my career.  If someone gets on over on me, it's
because I'm not on the ball.  Not because I'm being picked on.

  Personally, if I need uncritical encouragement and self-esteem building
validation of my personhood, I'll join a mailing list with this guy: 

  http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/


 Jim Helfer
 WTW Architects
 Pittsburgh PA


[1] Some of the stuff that could have happened to me before I started
learning by reading this list



-Original Message-
From: Steve Hanna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




Long live this nasty a** list. The attitude of this list is one of it's most
valued properties. As a   "new" admin (in the exchange realm) this list has
forced me to be very, very diligent in my study and in the administration on
my company's investment. If this list should become user friendly it will
loose the school master appeal. I'm sure that we all have a school master
that we would like to go back and thank 10 or 15 years on.

just my $.02
--steve



> -Original Message-
> From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to 
> it, but if you
> do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget 
> the one thing
> that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe 
> for a few days
> to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened 
> for a couple of
> weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was 
> quite honestly
> tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.
> 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
> this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other 
> lists about
> the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself 
> to create an
> alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> sensitive to new Admin needs.
> 
> This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> alternative.
> 
> I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll 
> do the same
> for us.
> 
> For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel 
> free to do so
> at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> 
> 
> 
> _
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Rocky Stefano



YES! Jessuu has spoken!! Slap my forehead now please


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 29, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the newsgroups,
all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet
offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and perhaps a signal to this group
that you can be excellent without attitude.


> 
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> > list, just
> > request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone =
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> > lists about
> > the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it up

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Ken . Powell

I sent that to someone who is constantly saying that. Next thing I know,
everyone has it. Thank god for SIS.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:(360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


No problem, Ken.  I forget where I stole it from!  :-)

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he/she
knows absolutely everything about nothing. 
-


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Michèle,

I had to steal your talk to the hand. Not quite the same as the one that I
saw the other day on a bumper. It had a picture of someone giving you the
middle finger instead. Perhaps it could become the *official* icon of this
list :) Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:(360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:36 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


 o__,
<| 
 /\
Talk to the hand!


that's between you & your accountant!

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
Life's golden age is when the kids are too old to need baby-sitters and too
young to borrow the family car. 
-

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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Drewski

The O is for Outlook.

Drew (MOS)

KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html
Read my Column on OUTLOOKEXCHANGE.COM:
http://www.outlookexchange.com/articles/drewnicholson/default.asp
Pics of Max are BACK!  http://www.drewncapris.net

If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the
aspirin bottle:.. "Take two aspirin" and "Keep away from children."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



Outlook?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Do you use Outlook?

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Remember you're never too old to hold your father's hand." - Molly, age 11
-


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using
Arcserve.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws M

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread msharik

No problem, Ken.  I forget where I stole it from!  :-)

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he/she
knows absolutely everything about nothing. 
-


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Michèle,

I had to steal your talk to the hand. Not quite the same as the one that I
saw the other day on a bumper. It had a picture of someone giving you the
middle finger instead. Perhaps it could become the *official* icon of this
list :) Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:(360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:36 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


 o__,
<| 
 /\
Talk to the hand!


that's between you & your accountant!

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread msharik

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec3.htm

3.25 Q: ...Outlook...?

A: http://www.slipstick.com


-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"I'm taking the time for a number of things that weren't important
yesterday" -The Beatles, "Fixing A Hole" 
-


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



Outlook?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Do you use Outlook? 

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Remember you're never too old to hold your father's hand." - Molly, age 11 
-


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
Arcserve.

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
&

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Ken . Powell

Michèle,

I had to steal your talk to the hand. Not quite the same as the one that I
saw the other day on a bumper. It had a picture of someone giving you the
middle finger instead. Perhaps it could become the *official* icon of this
list :) Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:(360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:36 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


 o__,
<| 
 /\
Talk to the hand!


that's between you & your accountant!

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Ken . Powell

Missy,

You will probably find few by me as well other than NAI/McAfee related. I
don't know about much else:) I have *learnt* quite alot from this list, you
and Ed especially. Larry does bring up a good point though. This list does
have a reputation that does not seem to occur on other lists that these same
people are on (E2K list for one).

As for the value of a list that Larry hosts, all I can speak to is the one
that he set up for Scripting. He is every bit as knowledgeable about
Scripting and SMS (as has already been pointed out) as anyone on this list
is about Exchange. He gives of his time and skills and requires no more than
you or Ed would in return.

Only time will tell if there is a need for what Larry is proposing.

As for why you do not see many post by me on this list, I have always tried
to follow the advise found in JOB 13:5 "If only you would be altogether
silent, for you that would be wisdom." NIV


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax:   (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the newsgroups,
all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet
offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and perhaps a signal to this group
that you can be excellent without attitude.


> 
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> > list, just
> > request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone =
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> > lists about
> > the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself=20
> > to create an
> > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> > sensitive to new Admin needs.
> >=20
> > This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> > different people learn differ

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Erik Sojka

Where'd you get that from?  

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
> Arcserve.
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Not without you there
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
> Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> missy koslosky
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
> Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
> that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
> 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> 
> Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman 
> who was on
> TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
> we're getting it.
> 
> You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a 
> success.  I don't
> think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
> the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
> newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> 
> Missy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> See inline comments.
> Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the 
> compliment. Yes,
> SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
> >
> > 
> > Have you even posted to this list?
> Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is 
> turned off
> by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings 
> to webbased
> only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.
> 
> You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing 
> service, are you?
> Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
> Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
> providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
> regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
> perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
> attitude.
> 
> 
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> > >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> > >=20
> > > -Mich=E8le
> > > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > > -
> > > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > > never tell
> > > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > > -
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I normally would never do such a thing, but after 
> watching t

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread PRamatowski


Outlook?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Do you use Outlook? 

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Remember you're never too old to hold your father's hand." - Molly, age 11 
-


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
Arcserve.

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone
=
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> >lists about  the abusive nature of

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread msharik

Do you use Outlook? 

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Remember you're never too old to hold your father's hand." - Molly, age 11 
-


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
Arcserve.

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone
=
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> >lists about  the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon 
> >myself=20  to create an
> > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite
and
> 

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread PRamatowski



How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
Arcserve.

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone
=
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> >lists about  the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon 
> >myself=20  to create an
> > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite
and
> > sensitive to new Admin needs.
> >=20
> > This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization
that
> > different people learn different ways and it's time to have an  
> >alternative. =20
> > I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll=20
> > do the same
> > for us.
> >=20
> > For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel=20
> > free to do so
> > at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > _
> >

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Blackstone

Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone
=
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> >lists about  the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon 
> >myself=20  to create an
> > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite
and
> > sensitive to new Admin needs.
> >=20
> > This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization
that
> > different people learn different ways and it's time to have an  
> >alternative. =20
> > I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll=20
> > do the same
> > for us.
> >=20
> > For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel=20
> > free to do so
> > at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > _
> > List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> > Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >=20
> >

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Lynne Seamans

Well, actually a "user non-hostile" exchange list IS
a good idea, but you didn't have to create one.  It
already exists, a real LISTSERV (tm) list with
searchable archives and everything!

To subscribe send email to :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

with "subscribe exchange-l firstname lastname"
in the body (YOUR first and last name)

It's not as active, but it could be, and is
certainly got a different "tone".

>-Original Message-
>From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 13:50
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: FW: User Friendly Exchange List
>
>
>I want to be a wizard. An Exchange Wizard!
>
>
>Michael Semiglia
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:39 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
>
>
>
>The elders? How about a game of D&D anyone?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
>Josefowski, Larry
>Sent: August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
>
>
>
>The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to 
>it, but if you
>do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the 
>one thing
>that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe 
>for a few days
>to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for 
>a couple of
>weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
>tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
>
>
>I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the 
>tone of this
>group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about the
>abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
>alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
>sensitive to new Admin needs.
>
>This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
>different people learn different ways and it's time to have an 
>alternative.
>
>I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do 
>the same for
>us.
>
>For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel 
>free to do so
>at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
>
>
>
>_
>List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
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>
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread John Allhiser

The way I roll dice, I'd end up as a retarded Orc with a lisp.
Oops! That's not nice...

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer  
Business Men's Assurance

-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: User Friendly Exchange List


I want to be a wizard. An Exchange Wizard!


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



The elders? How about a game of D&D anyone?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Josefowski, Larry
Sent: August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.


-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of this
group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about the
abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same for
us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Erik Sojka

You'd be surprised ;)

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
> Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> missy koslosky
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
> Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
> that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
> 2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.
> 
> Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman 
> who was on
> TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
> we're getting it.
> 
> You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a 
> success.  I don't
> think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
> the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
> newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.
> 
> Missy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> See inline comments.
> Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the 
> compliment. Yes,
> SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
> >
> > 
> > Have you even posted to this list?
> Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is 
> turned off
> by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings 
> to webbased
> only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.
> 
> You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing 
> service, are you?
> Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
> Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
> providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
> regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
> perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
> attitude.
> 
> 
> > 
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20  
> > >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> > >=20
> > > -Mich=E8le
> > > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > > -
> > > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > > never tell
> > > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > > -
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I normally would never do such a thing, but after 
> watching the tone
> =
> > of
> > > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20  
> > >lists about  the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon 
> > >myself=20  to create an
> > > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite
> and
> > > sensitive to new Admin needs.
> > >=20
> > > This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization
> that
> > > different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> > > alternative.
> > >=20
> > > I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll=20
> > > do the same
> > > f

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Don Ely

LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20  
> >list, just  request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone
=
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20  
> >lists about  the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon 
> >myself=20  to create an
> > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite
and
> > sensitive to new Admin needs.
> >=20
> > This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization
that
> > different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> > alternative.
> >=20
> > I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll=20
> > do the same
> > for us.
> >=20
> > For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel=20
> > free to do so
> > at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > _
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> >=20
> > _
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> > Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/se

RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Rocky Stefano


The elders? How about a game of D&D anyone?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Josefowski,
Larry
Sent: August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.


-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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Re: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread missy koslosky

Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan, Larry"
or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives that I
currently have available.  But they only go back to February 2000, so I
guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on TV a
week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe we're
getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit the
E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the newsgroups,
all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet
offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and perhaps a signal to this group
that you can be excellent without attitude.


> 
>
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> > list, just
> > request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone =
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> > lists about
> > the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself=20
> > to create an
> > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> > sensitive to new Admin needs.
> >=20
> > This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> > different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> > alternative.
> >=20
> > I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll=20
> > do the same
> > for us.
> >=20
> > For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel=20
> > free to do so
> > at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Don Ely

Something like that...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Only 30 hours a day to spend, don't we?

--
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MVP Exchange
Exchange2000 List owner
www.exchange-mail.org
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- Original Message - 
From: "Don Ely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


> That's because I haven't spent enough time there...  ;o)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you Tom :)
> You know it isn't easy to be the judge all the time, but for the two 
> years the Exchange 2000 list has running now, flames have been kept to

> almost nil
> :)
> 
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> --
> 
> 2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep 
> flames down, also with incredibly knowledgeable people]
> 
> 
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Drewski

Does the subscription message for this list NOT direct users to look at the
FAQ?  Read it.  Love it.  Live it.

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Pochedley
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Part of the problem today is that there are a lot of users and beginning
sysadmins who did not grow up in the era of "Each List / Usenet group has a
FAQ that should be read, completely and thoroughly, before asking a
question."  This is one of the few lists that I've seen that still holds to
that idiom, though many Usenet groups still do.  I, for one, love this list
for that reason.  I get tired of lists that constantly rehash the same
information over and over from people who are too lazy to do some research
on their own.

JoeP

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


What to do *Before* you post:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxd.htm



-Michèle
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Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally stopped by a
windmill.
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-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.


-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of this
group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about the
abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same for
us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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Re: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Tuip

Only 30 hours a day to spend, don't we?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Don Ely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


> That's because I haven't spent enough time there...  ;o)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you Tom :)
> You know it isn't easy to be the judge all the time, but for the two
> years the Exchange 2000 list has running now, flames have been kept to
> almost nil
> :)
> 
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> --
> 
> 2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep
> flames down, also with incredibly knowledgeable people]
> 
> 
> 
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread msharik

LOL!!  I wasn't FAQing you, Larry!  It was just meant as a supplement to
your post.  :-)

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-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



Michèle,

I have never been FAQ'ed before.  First time for everything.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


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http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxd.htm



-Michèle
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which renders him invisible. He proceeds to go on a mad rampage of
corruption and terror, attacking innocent people in the  streets and all the
while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally stopped by a
windmill. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
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alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
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alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Orr, Dale L.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 o__,
<| 
 /\
Talk to the hand!


that's between you & your accountant!

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
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Life's golden age is when the kids are too old to need baby-sitters and too
young to borrow the family car. 
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-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


But then what about my 401K?

Dale L. Orr
Network Administrator
DoD Polygraph Institute


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this list, just
request a refund of your subscription fee.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can never tell
which way the train went by looking at the track. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE)

Now this I like...one to save!

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:36 AM
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Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


 o__,
<| 
 /\
Talk to the hand!


that's between you & your accountant!

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
Life's golden age is when the kids are too old to need baby-sitters and too
young to borrow the family car. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


But then what about my 401K?

Dale L. Orr
Network Administrator
DoD Polygraph Institute


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this list, just
request a refund of your subscription fee.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can never tell
which way the train went by looking at the track. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT

See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
> 
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?  
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off by
the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased only
and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The Internet offers a vast
number of resource for people to use. I'm now providing a more user
friendly environment for passing information regarding Exchange. If the
users come, that that's their choice and perhaps a signal to this group
that you can be excellent without attitude.


> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this=20
> > list, just
> > request a refund of your subscription fee.
> >=20
> > -Mich=E8le
> > Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> > Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> > -
> > Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can=20
> > never tell
> > which way the train went by looking at the track.=20
> > -
> >=20
> >=20
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> >=20
> >=20
> > I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone =
> of
> > this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other=20
> > lists about
> > the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself=20
> > to create an
> > alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> > sensitive to new Admin needs.
> >=20
> > This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> > different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> > alternative.
> >=20
> > I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll=20
> > do the same
> > for us.
> >=20
> > For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel=20
> > free to do so
> > at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> >=20
> >=20
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Dillon, Jeff

Goodbye

-Original Message-
From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Hello.

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Tuip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 17:45
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


>
> Thank you Tom :)
> You know it isn't easy to be the judge all the time, but for the two years
> the Exchange 2000 list has running now, flames have been kept to almost
nil
> :)
>
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> --
>
> 2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep
> flames down, also with incredibly knowledgeable people]
>
>
>
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Don Ely

Well at least someone is learning around here...

Well somewhat anyway, there's still work to be done for this one.  ;o)

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John
L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I love this list even though I get flammed on a constant basis :) :)
wo ho!!.  But 8 times out of 10 people are willing to
help you out or point you in the right direction.  I'm immune to the
flames by now and laugh at some of them.  They use to piss me off but
now I just take it in stride.  There is alot of experience on this list
and I don't know how many times it's helped me out.  Just my .02 cents.


Wh's your daddy??

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
NT Server & Workstation Team
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 
 


-Original Message-
From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Part of the problem today is that there are a lot of users and beginning
sysadmins who did not grow up in the era of "Each List / Usenet group
has a FAQ that should be read, completely and thoroughly, before asking
a question."  This is one of the few lists that I've seen that still
holds to that idiom, though many Usenet groups still do.  I, for one,
love this list for that reason.  I get tired of lists that constantly
rehash the same information over and over from people who are too lazy
to do some research on their own.

JoeP

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


What to do *Before* you post:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxd.htm



-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
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elixir which renders him invisible. He proceeds to go on a mad rampage
of corruption and terror, attacking innocent people in the  streets and
all the while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally
stopped by a windmill. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if
you do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one
thing that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for
a few days to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened
for a couple of weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was
quite honestly tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create
an alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do
so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Don Ely

Awww man...  Who let this piece of road kill in here?  ;o)

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Hello.

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Tuip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 17:45
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


>
> Thank you Tom :)
> You know it isn't easy to be the judge all the time, but for the two 
> years the Exchange 2000 list has running now, flames have been kept to

> almost
nil
> :)
>
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> --
>
> 2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep 
> flames down, also with incredibly knowledgeable people]
>
>
>
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Don Ely

That's because I haven't spent enough time there...  ;o)

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Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List



Thank you Tom :)
You know it isn't easy to be the judge all the time, but for the two
years the Exchange 2000 list has running now, flames have been kept to
almost nil
:)

--
Martin Tuip
MVP Exchange
Exchange2000 List owner
www.exchange-mail.org
--

2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Blackstone

Is that a come on??

FAQ off

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Josefowski,
Larry
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List



Michèle,

I have never been FAQ'ed before.  First time for everything.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


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http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxd.htm



-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"The Invisible Man of La Mancha"- Don Quixote discovers a mysterious
elixir which renders him invisible. He proceeds to go on a mad rampage
of corruption and terror, attacking innocent people in the  streets and
all the while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally
stopped by a windmill. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if
you do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one
thing that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for
a few days to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened
for a couple of weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was
quite honestly tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create
an alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do
so
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Josefowski, Larry


Michèle,

I have never been FAQ'ed before.  First time for everything.

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-Michèle
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which renders him invisible. He proceeds to go on a mad rampage of
corruption and terror, attacking innocent people in the  streets and all the
while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally stopped by a
windmill. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Bowles, John L.

I love this list even though I get flammed on a constant basis :) :)
wo ho!!.  But 8 times out of 10 people are willing to help
you out or point you in the right direction.  I'm immune to the flames by
now and laugh at some of them.  They use to piss me off but now I just take
it in stride.  There is alot of experience on this list and I don't know how
many times it's helped me out.  Just my .02 cents.


Wh's your daddy??

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
NT Server & Workstation Team
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 
 


-Original Message-
From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Part of the problem today is that there are a lot of users and beginning
sysadmins who did not grow up in the era of "Each List / Usenet group has a
FAQ that should be read, completely and thoroughly, before asking a
question."  This is one of the few lists that I've seen that still holds to
that idiom, though many Usenet groups still do.  I, for one, love this list
for that reason.  I get tired of lists that constantly rehash the same
information over and over from people who are too lazy to do some research
on their own.

JoeP

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:43 AM
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Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


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http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxd.htm



-Michèle
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Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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"The Invisible Man of La Mancha"- Don Quixote discovers a mysterious elixir
which renders him invisible. He proceeds to go on a mad rampage of
corruption and terror, attacking innocent people in the  streets and all the
while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally stopped by a
windmill. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of this
group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about the
abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same for
us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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Re: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Mark Hanji

Hello.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 17:45
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


>
> Thank you Tom :)
> You know it isn't easy to be the judge all the time, but for the two years
> the Exchange 2000 list has running now, flames have been kept to almost
nil
> :)
>
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> --
>
> 2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep
> flames down, also with incredibly knowledgeable people]
>
>
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread msharik

::shaking head sadly::  kids these days

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-Original Message-
From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Part of the problem today is that there are a lot of users and beginning
sysadmins who did not grow up in the era of "Each List / Usenet group has a
FAQ that should be read, completely and thoroughly, before asking a
question."  This is one of the few lists that I've seen that still holds to
that idiom, though many Usenet groups still do.  I, for one, love this list
for that reason.  I get tired of lists that constantly rehash the same
information over and over from people who are too lazy to do some research
on their own.

JoeP

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


What to do *Before* you post:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxd.htm



-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"The Invisible Man of La Mancha"- Don Quixote discovers a mysterious elixir
which renders him invisible. He proceeds to go on a mad rampage of
corruption and terror, attacking innocent people in the  streets and all the
while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally stopped by a
windmill. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of this
group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about the
abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same for
us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Joe Pochedley

Part of the problem today is that there are a lot of users and beginning
sysadmins who did not grow up in the era of "Each List / Usenet group has a
FAQ that should be read, completely and thoroughly, before asking a
question."  This is one of the few lists that I've seen that still holds to
that idiom, though many Usenet groups still do.  I, for one, love this list
for that reason.  I get tired of lists that constantly rehash the same
information over and over from people who are too lazy to do some research
on their own.

JoeP

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


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-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"The Invisible Man of La Mancha"- Don Quixote discovers a mysterious elixir
which renders him invisible. He proceeds to go on a mad rampage of
corruption and terror, attacking innocent people in the  streets and all the
while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally stopped by a
windmill. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of this
group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about the
abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same for
us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Steve Hanna



Long live this nasty a** list. The attitude of this list is one of it's most
valued properties. As a   "new" admin (in the exchange realm) this list has
forced me to be very, very diligent in my study and in the administration on
my company's investment. If this list should become user friendly it will
loose the school master appeal. I'm sure that we all have a school master
that we would like to go back and thank 10 or 15 years on.

just my $.02
--steve



> -Original Message-
> From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to 
> it, but if you
> do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget 
> the one thing
> that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe 
> for a few days
> to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened 
> for a couple of
> weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was 
> quite honestly
> tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.
> 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
> this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other 
> lists about
> the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself 
> to create an
> alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> sensitive to new Admin needs.
> 
> This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> alternative.
> 
> I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll 
> do the same
> for us.
> 
> For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel 
> free to do so
> at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Martin Tuip


Thank you Tom :)
You know it isn't easy to be the judge all the time, but for the two years
the Exchange 2000 list has running now, flames have been kept to almost nil
:)

--
Martin Tuip
MVP Exchange
Exchange2000 List owner
www.exchange-mail.org
--

2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep
flames down, also with incredibly knowledgeable people]



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread msharik

What to do *Before* you post:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxd.htm



-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"The Invisible Man of La Mancha"- Don Quixote discovers a mysterious elixir
which renders him invisible. He proceeds to go on a mad rampage of
corruption and terror, attacking innocent people in the  streets and all the
while singing "To fight the Invisible Man!" until he is finally stopped by a
windmill. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Josefowski, Larry

The list is what it is.  It has a reputation, and lives up to it, but if you
do need help, it is an invaluable resource.  People forget the one thing
that could save them before they post to any list:  subscribe for a few days
to get the feel of it.  Think before you post.  I listened for a couple of
weeks before I was brave enough to post a reply, and was quite honestly
tickled when my answer was affirmed by one of the elders.

 
-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread msharik

 o__,
<| 
 /\
Talk to the hand!


that's between you & your accountant!

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-Original Message-
From: Orr, Dale L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


But then what about my 401K?

Dale L. Orr
Network Administrator
DoD Polygraph Institute


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this list, just
request a refund of your subscription fee.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can never tell
which way the train went by looking at the track. 
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-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Erik Sojka

Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru?  


Have you even posted to this list?  You're not trying to steal subscribers
to a competing service, are you?


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this 
> list, just
> request a refund of your subscription fee.
> 
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> -
> Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can 
> never tell
> which way the train went by looking at the track. 
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
> this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other 
> lists about
> the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself 
> to create an
> alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> sensitive to new Admin needs.
> 
> This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> alternative.
> 
> I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll 
> do the same
> for us.
> 
> For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel 
> free to do so
> at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Orr, Dale L.

But then what about my 401K?

Dale L. Orr
Network Administrator
DoD Polygraph Institute


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this list, just
request a refund of your subscription fee.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can never tell
which way the train went by looking at the track. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread msharik

I still maintain that if you don't like the services of this list, just
request a refund of your subscription fee.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
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Murphy's Technology Laws Murphy's Technology Law #1:  You can never tell
which way the train went by looking at the track. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List


I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other lists about
the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself to create an
alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
sensitive to new Admin needs.

This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
alternative.

I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll do the same
for us.

For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel free to do so
at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.



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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

2001-08-29 Thread Tom Meunier

I respect the sentiment, Larry.  Perhaps someone (not me! I'm overworked
and far too lazy) ought to write a FAQ along the lines of the [glowing
adjective] Andrew S. Baker's [glowing adjective]
http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~Help.TXT from his [glowing
adjective] knowledge base.  
But I submit that between:
1.  This list [has incredibly knowlegeable people, but the atmosphere
can seem unfriendly, impolite, and insensitive]
2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep
flames down, also with incredibly knowledgeable people]
3.  microsoft.public.exchange.* or microsoft.public.exchange2000.*
[friendlier, also with incredibly knowledgeable people, but hey, it's
Usenet] and
4.  PSS [accurate, quick, friendly, and professional, but it's $245 per
call]
...you will be reinventing the wheel.

I wish you luck, though.  Between usenet, and the two groups listed
above, I think all of the MVPs extant are regular contributors and
provide a great wealth of information.  

-tom

> -Original Message-
> From: Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 09:47 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: User Friendly Exchange List
> Subject: OT: User Friendly Exchange List
> 
> 
> I normally would never do such a thing, but after watching the tone of
> this group for some time now and seeing compliants on other 
> lists about
> the abusive nature of it's elders, I've taken it upon myself 
> to create an
> alternative Exchange mail list that will be user friendly, polite and
> sensitive to new Admin needs.
> 
> This is not an attack on you or your methods, just a realization that
> different people learn different ways and it's time to have an
> alternative.
> 
> I wish the Swynk Exchange mail list well, and I hope you'll 
> do the same
> for us.
> 
> For those interested in joining this new list, you can feel 
> free to do so
> at: http://www.topica.com/lists/msexchange.
> 
> 
> 
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