RE: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Dillon, Jeff

It seems that Exchange Admin Advisory #7 applies:

"As there are no worthy recipients hosted on AOL/Hotmail, only cursory
efforts shall be employed to determine causes of non-delivery."

see also: SPAM nozzle / Matrix / portal-junkies / attachment Cuisinart   

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 554 Invalid data in message


The only address in the NDR you posted is the domain atom. Had to work
backwards from there. Since the info is already public, as I just proved by
posting it, why even bother obscuring it?

Doctor, I have a pain.
Where?
Well, I'm not going to tell you except that it's above my waist and below my
neck.

- Original Message -
From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


> Well, I'm not sure why it's difficult if the names have been obscured
since
> the addresses are all valid and I know it's not a problem with them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> I know. I hate this crap. It makes no sense. Believe me, if we want to
find
> out this info, we can. Just cough it up.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
>
> Speaking further of which: it's hard to do troubleshooting when names have
> been obscured.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:12 AM
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> > Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail
> > or
> AOL
> > accounts that are getting bounces.
> >
> > Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
> >
> > Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.
> > So
> this
> > does not seem to affect every account.
> >
> >
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by
> > air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri,
> > 15 Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500
> > (EST) from root@localhost
> >
> >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >- Transcript of session follows -
> > .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> > >>> DATA
> > <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> > 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL
> accounts
> > and getting NDR's?
> >
> > Can you post the full NDR's please?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mr Louis Joyce
> > Data Support Analyst
> > BT Ignite eSolutions
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail
> > accounts that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I
> > was
> forwarded
> > some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:
> >
> > 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> > Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what
> > the heck is happening?
> >
> > Teresa Whitlock
> >
> >
> >
> > _
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> > Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
>

Re: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Daniel Chenault

The only address in the NDR you posted is the domain atom. Had to work
backwards from there. Since the info is already public, as I just proved by
posting it, why even bother obscuring it?

Doctor, I have a pain.
Where?
Well, I'm not going to tell you except that it's above my waist and below my
neck.

- Original Message -
From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


> Well, I'm not sure why it's difficult if the names have been obscured
since
> the addresses are all valid and I know it's not a problem with them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> I know. I hate this crap. It makes no sense. Believe me, if we want to
find
> out this info, we can. Just cough it up.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
>
> Speaking further of which: it's hard to do troubleshooting when names have
> been obscured.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:12 AM
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> > Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail
> > or
> AOL
> > accounts that are getting bounces.
> >
> > Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
> >
> > Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.
> > So
> this
> > does not seem to affect every account.
> >
> >
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by
> > air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri,
> > 15 Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500
> > (EST) from root@localhost
> >
> >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -
> > .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> > >>> DATA
> > <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> > 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL
> accounts
> > and getting NDR's?
> >
> > Can you post the full NDR's please?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mr Louis Joyce
> > Data Support Analyst
> > BT Ignite eSolutions
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail
> > accounts that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I
> > was
> forwarded
> > some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:
> >
> > 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> > Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what
> > the heck is happening?
> >
> > Teresa Whitlock
> >
> >
> >
> > _
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Re: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Daniel Chenault

Non-authoritative answer:
dionex.com  nameserver = NS2.PBI.NET
dionex.com  nameserver = NS1.PBI.NET
dionex.com  internet address = 65.200.196.90
dionex.com  MX preference = 100, mail exchanger = smtp-relay.pbi.net
dionex.com  MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = wormhole.dionex.com

dionex.com  nameserver = NS2.PBI.NET
dionex.com  nameserver = NS1.PBI.NET
NS2.PBI.NET internet address = 206.13.29.11
NS1.PBI.NET internet address = 206.13.28.11
wormhole.dionex.com internet address = 207.212.40.254
>
- Original Message -
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


> I know. I hate this crap. It makes no sense. Believe me, if we want to
find
> out this info, we can. Just cough it up.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
>
> Speaking further of which: it's hard to do troubleshooting when names have
> been obscured.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:12 AM
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> > Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail
> > or
> AOL
> > accounts that are getting bounces.
> >
> > Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
> >
> > Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.
> > So
> this
> > does not seem to affect every account.
> >
> >
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by
> > air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri,
> > 15 Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500
> > (EST) from root@localhost
> >
> >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >- Transcript of session follows -----
> > .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> > >>> DATA
> > <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> > 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL
> accounts
> > and getting NDR's?
> >
> > Can you post the full NDR's please?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mr Louis Joyce
> > Data Support Analyst
> > BT Ignite eSolutions
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail
> > accounts that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I
> > was
> forwarded
> > some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:
> >
> > 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> > Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what
> > the heck is happening?
> >
> > Teresa Whitlock
> >
> >
> >
> > _
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RE: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Whitlock, Teresa

Well, I'm not sure why it's difficult if the names have been obscured since
the addresses are all valid and I know it's not a problem with them.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


I know. I hate this crap. It makes no sense. Believe me, if we want to find
out this info, we can. Just cough it up.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 554 Invalid data in message



Speaking further of which: it's hard to do troubleshooting when names have
been obscured.

- Original Message -
From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


> Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail
> or
AOL
> accounts that are getting bounces.
>
> Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
>
> Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.
> So
this
> does not seem to affect every account.
>
>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by
> air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri, 
> 15 Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500 
> (EST) from root@localhost
>
>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>- Transcript of session follows -
> .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> >>> DATA
> <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL
accounts
> and getting NDR's?
>
> Can you post the full NDR's please?
>
> Regards
>
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Data Support Analyst
> BT Ignite eSolutions
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail
> accounts that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I 
> was
forwarded
> some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:
>
> 554 Invalid data in message
>
> Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what
> the heck is happening?
>
> Teresa Whitlock
>
>
>
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Re: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Daniel Chenault

telnet 207.212.40.254 25
220 wormhole.dionex.com Generic SMTP handler

That ain't Exchange.

- Original Message -
From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


> Ahhh - "Service Unavailable" is the clue, not the invalid data.
>
> Sounds like the firewall doesn't like one of the commands (probably an
ESMTP
> command). Alternately, the firewall might be configured (possibly
> incorrectly) to not allow relaying.
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:13 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the
> > Hotmail or AOL accounts that are getting bounces.
> >
> > Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
> >
> > Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's
> > fine.  So this does not seem to affect every account.
> >
> >
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com
> > [64.12.137.2]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id
> > MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002
> > 16:36:49 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost
> >
> >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors
> > - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >- Transcript of session follows -
> > .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> > >>> DATA
> > <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> > 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail
> > and AOL accounts and getting NDR's?
> >
> > Can you post the full NDR's please?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mr Louis Joyce
> > Data Support Analyst
> > BT Ignite eSolutions
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and
> > Hotmail accounts that email is bouncing.  I can send fine
> > with my email, but I was forwarded some of the bounced emails
> > with the following message in the header:
> >
> > 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> > Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure
> > out what the heck is happening?
> >
> > Teresa Whitlock
> >
> >
> >
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RE: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Martin Blackstone

I know. I hate this crap. It makes no sense. Believe me, if we want to find
out this info, we can. Just cough it up.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 554 Invalid data in message



Speaking further of which: it's hard to do troubleshooting when names have
been obscured.

- Original Message -
From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


> Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail 
> or
AOL
> accounts that are getting bounces.
>
> Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
>
> Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.  
> So
this
> does not seem to affect every account.
>
>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by 
> air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri, 
> 15 Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500 
> (EST) from root@localhost
>
>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>- Transcript of session follows -
> .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> >>> DATA
> <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL
accounts
> and getting NDR's?
>
> Can you post the full NDR's please?
>
> Regards
>
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Data Support Analyst
> BT Ignite eSolutions
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail 
> accounts that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I 
> was
forwarded
> some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:
>
> 554 Invalid data in message
>
> Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what 
> the heck is happening?
>
> Teresa Whitlock
>
>
>
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RE: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Martin Blackstone

Do you have a PIX FW? Do you have the SMTP fixup protocol on?
If so, turn it off.

-Original Message-
From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail or AOL
accounts that are getting bounces.

Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.

Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.  So this
does not seem to affect every account.


MIME-Version: 1.0 
Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by
air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri, 15
Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500 
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500 (EST)
from root@localhost

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   - Transcript of session follows -
.. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 554 Invalid data in message
554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable 

-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL accounts
and getting NDR's?

Can you post the full NDR's please?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions


-Original Message-
From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 554 Invalid data in message


I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail accounts
that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I was forwarded
some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:

554 Invalid data in message 

Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what the
heck is happening?

Teresa Whitlock



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RE: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Roger Seielstad

Ahhh - "Service Unavailable" is the clue, not the invalid data.

Sounds like the firewall doesn't like one of the commands (probably an ESMTP
command). Alternately, the firewall might be configured (possibly
incorrectly) to not allow relaying.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
> 
> 
> Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the 
> Hotmail or AOL accounts that are getting bounces.
> 
> Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
> 
> Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's 
> fine.  So this does not seem to affect every account.
> 
> 
> MIME-Version: 1.0 
> Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com 
> [64.12.137.2]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id 
> MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500 
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 
> 16:36:49 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost
> 
>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors 
> - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>- Transcript of session follows -
> .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> >>> DATA
> <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
> 
> 
> So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail 
> and AOL accounts and getting NDR's?
> 
> Can you post the full NDR's please?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Data Support Analyst
> BT Ignite eSolutions
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
> 
> 
> I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and 
> Hotmail accounts that email is bouncing.  I can send fine 
> with my email, but I was forwarded some of the bounced emails 
> with the following message in the header:
> 
> 554 Invalid data in message 
> 
> Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure 
> out what the heck is happening?
> 
> Teresa Whitlock
> 
> 
> 
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Re: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Daniel Chenault

You'll need to turn on protocol logging to see the actual conversation and
data being passed to understand why your server (rather, your firewall) is
returning the error.

Speaking of which, what are you running as a firewall
(myfirewall.mydomain.com)?

Speaking further of which: it's hard to do troubleshooting when names have
been obscured.

- Original Message -
From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


> Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail or
AOL
> accounts that are getting bounces.
>
> Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
>
> Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.  So
this
> does not seem to affect every account.
>
>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by
> air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri, 15
> Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500 (EST)
> from root@localhost
>
>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>- Transcript of session follows -
> .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> >>> DATA
> <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL
accounts
> and getting NDR's?
>
> Can you post the full NDR's please?
>
> Regards
>
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Data Support Analyst
> BT Ignite eSolutions
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail accounts
> that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I was
forwarded
> some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:
>
> 554 Invalid data in message
>
> Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what the
> heck is happening?
>
> Teresa Whitlock
>
>
>
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RE: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Whitlock, Teresa

Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail or AOL
accounts that are getting bounces.

Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.

Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.  So this
does not seem to affect every account.


MIME-Version: 1.0 
Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by
air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri, 15
Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500 
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500 (EST)
from root@localhost

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   - Transcript of session follows -
.. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 554 Invalid data in message
554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable 

-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL accounts
and getting NDR's?

Can you post the full NDR's please?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions


-Original Message-
From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 554 Invalid data in message


I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail accounts
that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I was forwarded
some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:

554 Invalid data in message 

Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what the
heck is happening?

Teresa Whitlock



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RE: 554 Invalid data in message

2002-03-19 Thread Louis Joyce

So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL accounts
and getting NDR's?

Can you post the full NDR's please?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions


-Original Message-
From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 554 Invalid data in message


I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail accounts
that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I was forwarded
some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:

554 Invalid data in message 

Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what the
heck is happening?

Teresa Whitlock



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