RE: Exchange 2007 roles

[Neil Hobson]

Sorry, I got distracted by some work yesterday!  Anyway, my point about
coexistence wasn't so much about any firm issues, but rather around whether
you are ready to enter a prolonged period of coexistence and all that this
brings, i.e. managing the two environments the correct way (no editing E2K7
objects via ESM, etc), the existence of the additional admin and routing
groups and management of the new RGCs, the potential (if you have additional
routes into E2K7) need to disable link state routing and what that means,
etc.  Nothing insurmountable but I do try and cover these things off with
customers when migrating to E2K7.  Sorry, transitioning to E2K7!  ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: Davies,Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 September 2008 17:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 roles

Troy,

You are right with your assumptions.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Cheers

Matt


-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 September 2008 16:46
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 roles

First, co-existence should be no issue.  We had some silly telephony
stuff that forced us to keep an Exchange 2000 server around for a lot
longer than we planned (its still here).  It hums along with two user
accounts on it and everything else is 2007.

As for your infrastructure, let me see if I understand you correctly.

You have multiple AD sites connected by some sort of WAN link You have
Exchange mailbox servers at multiple sites You have FE servers at
multiple sites (converting to CAS) You are running DNS RR for external
FE addresses for redundancy

This sounds like a good setup, but I think your DNS RR for OWA wont work
like you want it to in 2007.  I believe that the autodiscovery service
will always re-direct your OWA users to the CAS server closest to their
mailbox, so the remote-site OWA server wont actually do much except
harass folks logging into it and point them to the local-site OWA server
and have them re-login.

This would create redundancy if the local-site OWA server was down for
some reason, but it can frustrate users a bit when they get re-directed
and have to login a second time.

Also I think Neil was right, having your CAS as a HT wont hurt it, but I
don't think it will really see a lot of action.

Good luck in your install

-Troy


-Original Message-
From: Davies,Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 roles

There is a good chance it could increase to around 50 users, and they
are pretty heavy on their use of email. I'm still old school and like
separate roles.



We will be implementing as Virtual Machine and replicating to one of our
other sites, so we can bring it back quickly, especially when
considering database portability within exchange 2007, as long as I have
another exchange 2007 box somewhere



OWA, and RPC over HTTP are the only critical applications, that the CAS
box will be needed for, these are supported via FE boxes in 2  different
locations at the moment, so installing another exchange 2007 box in the
other location should not be a problem. These provide some redundancy
via a round robin DNS entry.



What are the implications associated with coexistence of exchange 2003
and 2007 ? It's not something I have been able to find a lot of
information on ?



OWA is round r



Thanks



Matt



From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 September 2008 14:22
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 roles



For just 20 users you can put the mailbox, HT and CAS roles all on a
single server.  I can't see the point of implementing a single mailbox
server with two HT servers for redundancy since if the mailbox server
dies it's game over until you get that sorted.  Also, if you need high
availability and you also use OWA, EAS, POP, IMAP, etc, you may need to
look at making the CAS role redundant via NLB, hardware load balancing,
etc.



Introducing E2K7 at this point means you could be in a coexistence state
for some time if you're not planning on upgrading the other sites.  Are
you prepared for that?



From: Davies,Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 September 2008 13:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 roles



All,



I'm hoping that I can borrow the collective intelligence of the group,
to help me with this.



At the present moment we have a exchange 2003 server as a back end and
another as a front end/bridgehead  box with both supporting around 20
users, There are also other exchange servers within the exchange org, on
other sites. Due to what looks like windows issue the backend server
blue screens every 4 hours.



Rather than continuing to try and fix the problem, which having spent 16
hours on it so far is not getting me anywhere, I was thinking about
deploying exchange 2007.



Hence my question about exchange 2007 roles, and which should be used
whe

Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Ellis, John P.]

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
Thanks

john



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RE: Exchange 2007 roles

[Sobey, Richard A]

Make sure you are very prepared - it's a big thing to deploy 2007 just
for the reasons of having a BE server BSODing every 4 hours. In 4 hours
you can (well, there's a lot of if's attached to this!) reinstall your
current BE and have Exchange running again on a working server. I think
you will benefit a lot more if you spend more time researching a 2007
deployment, but please shoot me down if you've already done this and the
BSODing is simply a driver to get started now.

 

Good luck though Matt J

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

From: Davies,Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 September 2008 13:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 roles

 

All,

 

I'm hoping that I can borrow the collective intelligence of the group,
to help me with this.

 

At the present moment we have a exchange 2003 server as a back end and
another as a front end/bridgehead  box with both supporting around 20
users, There are also other exchange servers within the exchange org, on
other sites. Due to what looks like windows issue the backend server
blue screens every 4 hours.

 

Rather than continuing to try and fix the problem, which having spent 16
hours on it so far is not getting me anywhere, I was thinking about
deploying exchange 2007.

 

Hence my question about exchange 2007 roles, and which should be used
where, as far as I can see the best options is to create the following.

 

1, Create a new exchange 2007 server, with Hub transport and client
server roles.

 

2, Create a new exchange 2007 server with the mailbox server role and
possible add hub transport for redundancy.

 

Does anyone see any problems with this or have any comments ?

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 



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RE: Exchange 2007 roles

[Davies,Matt]

Thanks, I spent a lot of time yesterday thinking exchange 2007 would be the 
best route, as I was going to provision it as a VM on our ESX cluster, I found 
that it wasn't as straight forward as I thought, as we wanted to run the MS 
Iscsi SW initiator within the VM so we could provision the Luns for the 
exchange database and logs on our Netapp filer, so the database and logs are 
replicated to the remote site for BC/DR.

 

Although running the MS Iscis initiator within a VM is now supported there are 
a lot of caveats, mainly around NIC drivers

 

Having finally come to my senses  I called Microsoft PS and spent £398 on 
Critical Issue case, then spending a very long night on the phone with 
Microsoft PS, we finally have managed to stop the exchange server BSODing every 
4 hours.

 

It seems there were 2 applications tied into the winlogon process, which was 
BSOD's (PCAnywhere and Desktop Authority/Scriptlogic) we removed both of these 
from the server and any registry entries associated with them, rebooted the 
server and it has now been  up for 7 hours.

 

It's time to start planning for exchange 2007.

 

Cheers

 

Matt

 

 

From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 September 2008 11:14
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 roles

 

Make sure you are very prepared - it's a big thing to deploy 2007 just for the 
reasons of having a BE server BSODing every 4 hours. In 4 hours you can (well, 
there's a lot of if's attached to this!) reinstall your current BE and have 
Exchange running again on a working server. I think you will benefit a lot more 
if you spend more time researching a 2007 deployment, but please shoot me down 
if you've already done this and the BSODing is simply a driver to get started 
now.

 

Good luck though Matt J

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

From: Davies,Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 September 2008 13:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 roles

 

All,

 

I'm hoping that I can borrow the collective intelligence of the group, to help 
me with this.

 

At the present moment we have a exchange 2003 server as a back end and another 
as a front end/bridgehead  box with both supporting around 20 users, There are 
also other exchange servers within the exchange org, on other sites. Due to 
what looks like windows issue the backend server blue screens every 4 hours.

 

Rather than continuing to try and fix the problem, which having spent 16 hours 
on it so far is not getting me anywhere, I was thinking about deploying 
exchange 2007.

 

Hence my question about exchange 2007 roles, and which should be used where, as 
far as I can see the best options is to create the following.

 

1, Create a new exchange 2007 server, with Hub transport and client server 
roles.

 

2, Create a new exchange 2007 server with the mailbox server role and possible 
add hub transport for redundancy.

 

Does anyone see any problems with this or have any comments ?

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 



Matt Davies

Director of International IT Operations

General Atlantic

83 Pall Mall

London

SW1Y 5ES

 

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Fax: +44 207 484 2803

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RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Davies,Matt]

John,

Go for blackberry then you don't have to worry about your concerns.

Cheers

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 September 2008 08:22
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
Thanks

john



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Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Don Andrews]

We do Blackberry/BES. 

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From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
Thanks

john



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Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Kevin Lundy]

But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may be a better
alternative.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> We do Blackberry/BES.
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> From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security
>
> Hi All.
> Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc via
> GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and WM6.x
> devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these devices?
> Such as encryption of the data etc.
> Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
> Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
> Thanks
>
> john
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RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Ellis, John P.]

Blackberries, are a no really for us as we have the hardware in place
etc also I believe cost wise they are more expensive.?
 
I shall have a look at Goodlink.
 
Cheers
John



From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 September 2008 14:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security


But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may be a
better alternative.


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


We do Blackberry/BES.

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From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc
via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and
WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these
devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
Thanks

john




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RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Ellis, John P.]

Maybe if we had a PGP Encryption server in place could be use a plugin
from PGP to secure the device?



From: wjh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 September 2008 15:06
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security


Good does work well.  I am a bit afraid of Motorola (who owns Good now)
running them into the ground. 

Bill

Kevin Lundy wrote: 

But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may
be a better alternative.


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


We do Blackberry/BES.

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- Original Message -
From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to
PDAs/Smartphones etc via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with
WM5 and WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on
these devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number
etc.
Thanks

john




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Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[wjh]

Good does work well.  I am a bit afraid of Motorola (who owns Good now) 
running them into the ground.

Bill

Kevin Lundy wrote:
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> better alternative.
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
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> We do Blackberry/BES.
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> >
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>  >
> Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
> Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security
>
> Hi All.
> Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc via
> GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and WM6.x
> devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these devices?
> Such as encryption of the data etc.
> Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
> Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
> Thanks
>
> john
>
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RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Depending on the types of devices you are looking to use, check out Microsoft's 
Mobile Device Manager. It will do what you are looking for with WM 6.1 devices.


From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Blackberries, are a no really for us as we have the hardware in place etc also 
I believe cost wise they are more expensive.?

I shall have a look at Goodlink.

Cheers
John


From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 September 2008 14:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security
But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may be a better 
alternative.
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We do Blackberry/BES.

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From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
Thanks

john



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RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Troy Meyer]

So I am surprised no one actually answered this question.

Using WM phones can be just as secure (if not more) than Blackberries, since WM 
data isn't forced to hit a Canadian server en route to the phone. (Our org runs 
both, we run BES, I like it.  I am just trying to answer the question posed).

On WM 6.1 phones you can encrypt any removable storage, require a pin for 
login, transmit all data via SSL; all of which is setup by policy (ex2007).  
Not to mention that's all free an integrated into Exch 2007 for management.  
Provisioning is even a snap w/ 6.1 and requires only an email addy and domain 
pw.

>From the Exch console you can maintain who has the ability to connect using a 
>mobile device and logging of those devices accessing the server is pretty 
>good.  Some device management can also be done within OWA, which makes it nice 
>for our power users.

This is all 2007, so some wont apply to your environment, but there is a decent 
amount of security consideration native in the current version of WM/AS

-Troy


-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Maybe if we had a PGP Encryption server in place could be use a plugin from PGP 
to secure the device?



From: wjh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 September 2008 15:06
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security


Good does work well.  I am a bit afraid of Motorola (who owns Good now) running 
them into the ground.

Bill

Kevin Lundy wrote:

But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may be a 
better alternative.


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


We do Blackberry/BES.

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Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld


- Original Message -
From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 

Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc 
via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and 
WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these 
devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
Thanks

john




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RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Ellis, John P.]

We have enabled SSL connections and also the connecting device needs the
correct cert installed to  talk to the ISA server/Exchange server.
Are you saying the BB devices all going via a server in Canada before
they hit the BB?
As my phone/PDA is still on WM5 I can check out all the features.
Waiting on a new HTC with WM6 installed.

Ta
John

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 September 2008 16:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

So I am surprised no one actually answered this question.

Using WM phones can be just as secure (if not more) than Blackberries,
since WM data isn't forced to hit a Canadian server en route to the
phone. (Our org runs both, we run BES, I like it.  I am just trying to
answer the question posed).

On WM 6.1 phones you can encrypt any removable storage, require a pin
for login, transmit all data via SSL; all of which is setup by policy
(ex2007).  Not to mention that's all free an integrated into Exch 2007
for management.  Provisioning is even a snap w/ 6.1 and requires only an
email addy and domain pw.

>From the Exch console you can maintain who has the ability to connect
using a mobile device and logging of those devices accessing the server
is pretty good.  Some device management can also be done within OWA,
which makes it nice for our power users.

This is all 2007, so some wont apply to your environment, but there is a
decent amount of security consideration native in the current version of
WM/AS

-Troy


-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 7:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Maybe if we had a PGP Encryption server in place could be use a plugin
from PGP to secure the device?



From: wjh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 September 2008 15:06
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security


Good does work well.  I am a bit afraid of Motorola (who owns Good now)
running them into the ground.

Bill

Kevin Lundy wrote:

But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may
be a better alternative.


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


We do Blackberry/BES.

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld


- Original Message -
From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to
PDAs/Smartphones etc via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with
WM5 and WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on
these devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number
etc.
Thanks

john



 
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Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Kevin Lundy]

Yes the data goes to RIM servers, but it is all encrypted with keys from
your local BES and the device.  So giving RIM the benefit of the doubt on a
backdoor, their servers shouldn't be able to access the content of the
email.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Troy Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> So I am surprised no one actually answered this question.
>
> Using WM phones can be just as secure (if not more) than Blackberries,
> since WM data isn't forced to hit a Canadian server en route to the phone.
> (Our org runs both, we run BES, I like it.  I am just trying to answer the
> question posed).
>
> On WM 6.1 phones you can encrypt any removable storage, require a pin for
> login, transmit all data via SSL; all of which is setup by policy (ex2007).
>  Not to mention that's all free an integrated into Exch 2007 for management.
>  Provisioning is even a snap w/ 6.1 and requires only an email addy and
> domain pw.
>
> From the Exch console you can maintain who has the ability to connect using
> a mobile device and logging of those devices accessing the server is pretty
> good.  Some device management can also be done within OWA, which makes it
> nice for our power users.
>
> This is all 2007, so some wont apply to your environment, but there is a
> decent amount of security consideration native in the current version of
> WM/AS
>
> -Troy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 7:13 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security
>
> Maybe if we had a PGP Encryption server in place could be use a plugin from
> PGP to secure the device?
>
> 
>
> From: wjh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 19 September 2008 15:06
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security
>
>
> Good does work well.  I am a bit afraid of Motorola (who owns Good now)
> running them into the ground.
>
> Bill
>
> Kevin Lundy wrote:
>
> But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may be
> a better alternative.
>
>
>On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>We do Blackberry/BES.
>
>-
>Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
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>- Original Message -
>From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <
> exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
>Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security
>
>Hi All.
>Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones
> etc via
>GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5
> and WM6.x
>devices, I was wondering what people do for security on
> these devices?
>Such as encryption of the data etc.
>Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
>Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
>Thanks
>
>john
>
>
>
>
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RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Don Andrews]

On e2k3?

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

 

Depending on the types of devices you are looking to use, check out
Microsoft's Mobile Device Manager. It will do what you are looking for
with WM 6.1 devices.

 

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

 

Blackberries, are a no really for us as we have the hardware in place
etc also I believe cost wise they are more expensive.?

 

I shall have a look at Goodlink.

 

Cheers

John

 



From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 September 2008 14:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may be a
better alternative.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

We do Blackberry/BES.

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld


- Original Message -
From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
Thanks

john



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RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

[Barsodi.John]

It'll work with Exchange 2003 SP2 or later

 

"Mobile Device Manager is designed to provide significant benefits for
upper mid-market through large enterprise customers, who use a Windows
Server(r) infrastructure, and who may have a Microsoft Exchange Server
2003 SP2 or later server."

 

 

http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/a/4/9a401fa2-4044-4550-af33-882
1f826a708/MSCMDM_Product_Reference_Guide.pdf

 

 

- John Barsodi

From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

 

On e2k3?

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

 

Depending on the types of devices you are looking to use, check out
Microsoft's Mobile Device Manager. It will do what you are looking for
with WM 6.1 devices.

 

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

 

Blackberries, are a no really for us as we have the hardware in place
etc also I believe cost wise they are more expensive.?

 

I shall have a look at Goodlink.

 

Cheers

John

 



From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 September 2008 14:02
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

But if John already has an investment in WM pda's, GoodLink may be a
better alternative.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

We do Blackberry/BES.

-
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld


- Original Message -
From: Ellis, John P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Sep 19 01:22:24 2008
Subject: Push email - PDA/Smartphone security

Hi All.
Having, started a trial for push email to PDAs/Smartphones etc via
GPRS(Windows 2003, ISA Server 2004, Exchange 2003) with WM5 and WM6.x
devices, I was wondering what people do for security on these devices?
Such as encryption of the data etc.
Do you use 3rd party software if so who/what?
Or do you use the standard device security? PIN number etc.
Thanks

john



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Exchange 2007 Certificates

[McCready, Rob]

It looks like our default certificate expired on our Hub Transport Server.  
Using this article...

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851554(EXCHG.80).aspx

I tried to clone our current certificate to get another years worth of 
subscription.

However, when I check the Trusted Root Certification Authorities\Certificate, 
the Hub Transport Server still has an expiration date of today.

When I re-run the get-exchangecertificate -domainname hubtransport.domain.com

I now get two thumbprints?

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Argh Maties

[Sherry Abercrombie]

It's official "Talk Like A Pirate Day"

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html

Have fun maties.

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

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RE: Argh Maties

[Campbell, Rob]

Does this mean we're going to have Aye-Phone threads?


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Argh Maties



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Re: Argh Maties

[wjh]

Arrgh, me thinks the whole lots already went land-side for a bottle o' rum.

Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

It's official "Talk Like A Pirate Day"

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html

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Re: Exchange 2007 Certificates

[Alex Fontana]

use the remove-exchangecertificate cmdlet to remove the cert that is
expired, if there is another cert available to be used for SMTP it will move
the role.  It's been a while so I can't remember if it will prompt you to
confirm that the smtp role is moving to the new cert or not, but it's
do-able.

-alex

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:25 AM, McCready, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  It looks like our default certificate expired on our Hub Transport
> Server.  Using this article…
>
>
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851554(EXCHG.80).aspx
>
>
>
> I tried to clone our current certificate to get another years worth of
> subscription.
>
>
> However, when I check the Trusted Root Certification
> Authorities\Certificate, the Hub Transport Server still has an expiration
> date of today.
>
>
> When I re-run the get-exchangecertificate –domainname
> hubtransport.domain.com
>
> I now get two thumbprints?
>
>
>

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RE: Argh Maties

[Maglinger, Paul]

If we did, it'd be avast subject...



From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Argh Maties



Does this mean we're going to have Aye-Phone threads?

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Argh Maties

 

 


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RE: Argh Maties

[Louis, Joe]

If ye keep this up, th' buxom beauty will make me come live wi' all o' you

Want t' talk like a seafarin' hearty?
http://www.syddware.com/cgi-bin/pirate.pl

Joe Louis
Systems Network Manager


-Original Message-
From: wjh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Argh Maties

Arrgh, me thinks the whole lots already went land-side for a bottle o' rum.

Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
> It's official "Talk Like A Pirate Day"
>
> http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html
>
> Have fun maties.
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
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taskpad

[1Cycopath]

Dumb question but I can't seem to find an answer.  Where are Taskpad item
stored?  I have some items appear in Tasks and others do not. (long week!)

 

-Dennis

 

 


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RE: taskpad

[Don Andrews]

I believe they are stored in the Tasks folder.

 



From: 1Cycopath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: taskpad

 

Dumb question but I can't seem to find an answer.  Where are Taskpad
item stored?  I have some items appear in Tasks and others do not. (long
week!)

 

-Dennis

 

 

 

 


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RE: Exchange 2007 Certificates

[Matthew Bullock]

Did you enable the new cert?

 

Enable-exchangecertificate -thumbprint  -services none

Enable-exchangecertificate -thumbprint  -services "iis, smtp,
pop, imap"

 

Matt

 

From: McCready, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 Certificates

 

It looks like our default certificate expired on our Hub Transport
Server.  Using this article...

 

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb851554(EXCHG.80).aspx

 

I tried to clone our current certificate to get another years worth of
subscription.


However, when I check the Trusted Root Certification
Authorities\Certificate, the Hub Transport Server still has an
expiration date of today.


When I re-run the get-exchangecertificate -domainname
hubtransport.domain.com

I now get two thumbprints?

 

 


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