Public folder size

2008-12-12 Thread Peter Sam

Hi Exchange Gurus!!
 
I am looking for a simple tool (free is good :)) that will export the size, 
directory structure and ACL information of all Public folders on my Exchange 
2003 SP2 servers.  I currently use PFADMIN and PFDAVADMIN, both of which don't 
provide sufficient information.  
 
(yep, we know we shouldn't be using Public folders; it is going away; blah 
blah.. - we hate it too  but users love it).
 
Thanks in advance...
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RE: OWA problem

2008-12-12 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
Pop-up blocker?

-Bonnie

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OWA problem

Exch 03 environment, 3 mailbox servers with FE.  Users on remote mailbox server 
get greyed out window and cannot create new mail or reply when using OWA.  No 
problem reading mail in OWA.  No issues at all using Outlook.

Any ideas?



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RE: Public folder size

2008-12-12 Thread Dahl, Peter
From Exchange System Manager (ESM) you can export the directory structure and 
the folder sizes for all public folders replicated to a given public folder 
server.

Open ESM and select the server that has the Public Folder store
Expand the Storage Group and Public Folder database
Select the Public Folder Instances object
Then from the Actions menu select Export list
This will give you the name, size and path for each folder replica.

I believe PFDAVAdmin is the best tool for exporting the ACL information.  We 
will also use public folders for some time at least until another options is 
available.

Thanks,
   Peter Dahl.


From: Peter Sam [mailto:srir...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Public folder size

Hi Exchange Gurus!!

I am looking for a simple tool (free is good :)) that will export the size, 
directory structure and ACL information of all Public folders on my Exchange 
2003 SP2 servers.  I currently use PFADMIN and PFDAVADMIN, both of which don't 
provide sufficient information.

(yep, we know we shouldn't be using Public folders; it is going away; blah 
blah.. - we hate it too  but users love it).

Thanks in advance...


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RE: OWA problem

2008-12-12 Thread Michael B. Smith
Can you draw me a diagram of the site setup?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

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From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OWA problem

 

Exch 03 environment, 3 mailbox servers with FE.  Users on remote mailbox
server get greyed out window and cannot create new mail or reply when
using OWA.  No problem reading mail in OWA.  No issues at all using Outlook.

 

Any ideas?

 


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Report mail enabled Public Folders

2008-12-12 Thread Senter, John
I am looking for a script or app that will give me a list of mail
enabled public folders with the mail addresses.  Anyone know of
something that will dump this out?  Using ADCU, find - Exchange Recpt -
Mail-enabled Public Folders; will create a list, but I cannot dump that.

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Re: OWA problem

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Brown
Don't think it's that.  they actually get the window, just not able to type
in it.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Miller Bonnie L. 
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote:

  Pop-up blocker?



 -Bonnie



 *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:00 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* OWA problem



 Exch 03 environment, 3 mailbox servers with FE.  Users on remote mailbox
 server get greyed out window and cannot create new mail or reply when
 using OWA.  No problem reading mail in OWA.  No issues at all using Outlook.



 Any ideas?






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RE: Report mail enabled Public Folders

2008-12-12 Thread Michael B. Smith
Adfind -default -f ((mail=*)(objectClass=publicFolder))

 

Adfind is from www.joeware.net.

 

You can get pretty much the same thing from:

 

dsquery * forestroot -scope subtree -filter
((mail=*)(objectClass=publicfolder)) -attr *

 

Where dsquery is part of Server 2003 and 2008.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

 

From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Report mail enabled Public Folders

 

I am looking for a script or app that will give me a list of mail enabled
public folders with the mail addresses.  Anyone know of something that will
dump this out?  Using ADCU, find - Exchange Recpt - Mail-enabled Public
Folders; will create a list, but I cannot dump that.

Thanks

 

 


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Re: User not getting external email

2008-12-12 Thread Peter van Houten

Have just checked the server and it is set up for DIR. Will try the
recovery on the user's mailbox on Monday; everyone has already buggered
off to the pub to try and poison the cold/flu that is going around.

Still a mystery as to where the missing items went. The user did not use
another computer; it simply stopped receiving messages in the morning
and started again that night.

Thanks for all the help chaps and have a wonderful weekend.

On the 11/12/2008 13:18, Dahl, Peter wrote the following:
If your Exchange server is setup for Deleted Item Retention (DIR) 
then you can use the Outlook Recover Deleted Items feature on the 
Inbox folder to restore those missing items. I agree that this was 
likely caused by another Outlook session set to deliver mail to a 
local PST.


-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:11 PM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: User not getting external email

Is it possible that the user had logged onto another computer,
terminal session/Citrix recently?   If so, perhaps that outlook client
was configured for local delivery instead of their Exchange mailbox.
This would have the effect of stealing the messages out of the inbox
tot hat local system.

If someone timed out, disconnect, rebooted that other session, then
that would certainly explain the behavior you are seeing.

This is often an 'Oh yea!' moment for your user.

Steven

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Peter van Houten peter...@gmail.com wrote:

Update.

Out of the blue, the user starts receiving messages now. Unfortunately,
there is a huge block of messages missing between when the trouble
started this morning and now. They are, however, visible in a search
under the Message Tracking Centre on the server...

Any idea how I can get the missing messages (in)to Outlook?


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: User not getting external email
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:42:17 +0200
From: Peter van Houten peter...@gmail.com
Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Thanks guys but there are no rules set. No restrictions on the server.

Same messages show up in OWA as in Outlook {sans the messages that I
have been sending to the mailbox for the last 8 hours).

Very odd. All other users are OK. Is there any chance of corruption in
part of the store?

On the 10/12/2008 20:26, Kennedy, Jim wrote the following:

Beware the server side rules.


-Original Message-
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: User not getting external email

Or just shut down his Outlook, send him an external email and see if it
shows up in OWA.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: User not getting external email

Check the users outlook rules. That is my bet, it is being auto deleted
or moved to a folder where they are not seeing it.




-Original Message-
From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: User not getting external email

SBS2003 / Outlook 2003 / XP SP3
---
I have copied the text below from a Google search of this problem
[unfortunately it appears to have no resolution] which is identical

to

my situation:

I have an Exchange server (2003 Small Business w/Outlook 2003

clients)

where one user does not receive email from external domains. He does
receive email from inside the company domain. All other users can
receive email from external and internal domains. I've examined the
Receive from Authenticated Users in Users and Computers and the box

is

not checked. This just started a few days ago. Before that, his

account

seemed to work fine. All size limits are set to default policy and he
has few messages and space utilization than some other users who are
working fine. Can you think of anything I have missed? Oh yes - there
are no error messages. No NDR messages are sent back to the external
originator and no messages in the event log. It looks like the

message

went through - only it never shows up.

In addition, I have checked the Message Tracking Centre and all the
messages are there and confirm Message Delivered Locally to Store to
u...@domain.com

I have deleted and recreated the user's SMTP addresses on the server.
I have deleted and allowed the .ost to rebuild.
I have emptied, archived and compressed the .ost

Looked at spam filtering in Outlook

It's probably something simple for you guys but I'm no Exchange
boffin...


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RE: Report mail enabled Public Folders

2008-12-12 Thread Troy Meyer
Just to add to this thread, if you are running 2007 you can use the EMS

Get-PublicFolder \ -Recurse | where {$_.MailEnabled -match True}


-troy

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Report mail enabled Public Folders

Adfind -default -f ((mail=*)(objectClass=publicFolder))

 

Adfind is from www.joeware.net.

 

You can get pretty much the same thing from:

 

dsquery * forestroot -scope subtree -filter 
((mail=*)(objectClass=publicfolder)) -attr *

 

Where dsquery is part of Server 2003 and 2008.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

 

From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Report mail enabled Public Folders

 

I am looking for a script or app that will give me a list of mail enabled 
public folders with the mail addresses.  Anyone know of something that will 
dump this out?  Using ADCU, find - Exchange Recpt - Mail-enabled Public 
Folders; will create a list, but I cannot dump that.

Thanks

 

 


 


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Re: Re: Re: OWA problem

2008-12-12 Thread seanmartin14
On Dec 12, 2008 9:32am, seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:

Is this similar?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911829

Maybe this on the clients?
The main problem is that DHTML editing isn't working so you have to  
unregister and re-register two files:
regsvr32 /u C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft  
Shared\Triedit\dhtmled.ocx
regsvr32 /u C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft  
Shared\Triedit\triedit.dll
regsvr32 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft  
Shared\Triedit\dhtmled.ocx
regsvr32 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft  
Shared\Triedit\triedit.dll
(Restart)

Several recommended steps here:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/exchangesvrclients/thread/281e5edf-5672-450d-a4e3-2b02feab9803/

- Sean








 On Dec 12, 2008 8:23am, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote:


  Don't think it's that. they actually get the window, just not able to  
type in it.


 


 


 


  On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Miller Bonnie L.  
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote:


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


  Pop-up blocker?


 


 


 


 


 


  -Bonnie


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


  From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]


  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:00 PM


 


 


  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues


  Subject: OWA problem


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


  Exch 03 environment, 3 mailbox servers with FE. Users on remote mailbox  
server get greyed out window and cannot create new mail or reply when  
using OWA. No problem reading mail in OWA. No issues at all using Outlook.


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


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Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

2008-12-12 Thread Leedy, Andy
Anyone know where I can get a copy of the notes from the Exchange Connections 
conference lecture on Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?
Or can someone please post a how to?
Thanks,
Andy
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Messaging Systems Engineer
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RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

2008-12-12 Thread Michael B. Smith
Well, I'll be giving the presentation again, in more detail, at TEC'09.

 

If you were at the Connections'08 conference, you should have a login and be
able to download the presentation and the scripts.

 

And I'm developing it, as a long series of articles, on my blog. But long
story short:

 

Diskshadow script:

set verbose on
set context persistent
set metadata c:\temp\20081030184921.cab
begin backup
add volume C: alias shadow_C
create
expose %shadow_C% g:
exec c:\temp\20081030184921.cmd
end backup
exit

 

CMD.exe script:

. More complex. Multiple phases involved.

. For every storage group, copy all stores, log files, and system
files from source to destination. If any copies fail, abort the entire
backup

. For every store (mailbox and public folder) verify the store
(eseutil /k). If any verify fails, abort the entire backup

. If everything is good, signal to delete log files

. Copy any other files you want

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

 

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

 

Anyone know where I can get a copy of the notes from the Exchange
Connections conference lecture on Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups
the Easy Way?

Or can someone please post a how to?

Thanks,
Andy

Andy Leedy
Messaging Systems Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply

 

 

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outlook disconnecting message

2008-12-12 Thread Neil Standley
Hi All,

 

I have 2 of 15 users on my network telling me that they get a message in
Outlook (2007) that it has disconnected/reconnected to the Exchange
(2003) server.  We recently moved our Exchange server to a GbE switch
and set the NIC on Exchange to 1000Mbps Auto.  Do you think I am correct
in thinking this is an issue on the user machines?  I've checked the
Outlook settings in their Exchange accounts and they are the same as
mine.  I have not seen the same error message on my machine that they
do.

 

 

Thanks,

Neil

 


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Re: outlook disconnecting message

2008-12-12 Thread Eric Woodford
I have seen where a nic on auto was running at 100mb instead of gig
rates. But with 15 users I'd be really pushed to think that's the
issue.

Tell these 2 to quit listening to streaming music at work.

:)

On 12/12/08, Neil Standley n...@net-venture.com wrote:
 Hi All,



 I have 2 of 15 users on my network telling me that they get a message in
 Outlook (2007) that it has disconnected/reconnected to the Exchange
 (2003) server.  We recently moved our Exchange server to a GbE switch
 and set the NIC on Exchange to 1000Mbps Auto.  Do you think I am correct
 in thinking this is an issue on the user machines?  I've checked the
 Outlook settings in their Exchange accounts and they are the same as
 mine.  I have not seen the same error message on my machine that they
 do.





 Thanks,

 Neil




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RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

2008-12-12 Thread Leedy, Andy
 Very interesting.


1)  Does the Diskshadow script backup all the stores and clear the logs?

2)  I assume it's one or the other. If you run the Diskshadow script you 
don't need to run the cmd script?

The last I heard from Microsoft was that you could use NTBackup if you copied 
the NTBackup programs from a Windows 2003 server and that you could only backup 
the stores with it. Apparently Volume Shadow Service is not compatible with 
Exchange and needs disabled. See procedure below.

-Andy Leedy


Only three files required

Ntbackup.exe

Ntmsapi.dll

Vssapi.dll



In all cases, files from other OS versions are copied to a folder that is NOT 
on the search path

NTBackup MUST be executed from that folder



NTBackup will back up any Exchange Store on the system



This will allow a file-based backup and restore.

ANY back up stating that it is going to use shadow copy to back up will fail 
(at least in this experiment)

This only works if using files above from Windows Server 2003 RTM, later 
versions have removed the option to disable Volume Shadow Copy

This will be an issue with 64-bit backups (executable availability)



This method will NOT allow a system state backup

System State forces a Volume Shadow Copy-based backup, option to disable 
grayed-out
Several Microsoft articles state that if the system state is backed-up to the 
system volume, the data within the system state may change during the backup

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

Well, I'll be giving the presentation again, in more detail, at TEC'09.

If you were at the Connections'08 conference, you should have a login and be 
able to download the presentation and the scripts.

And I'm developing it, as a long series of articles, on my blog. But long story 
short:

Diskshadow script:
set verbose on
set context persistent
set metadata c:\temp\20081030184921.cab
begin backup
add volume C: alias shadow_C
create
expose %shadow_C% g:
exec c:\temp\20081030184921.cmd
end backup
exit

CMD.exe script:

* More complex. Multiple phases involved.

* For every storage group, copy all stores, log files, and system files 
from source to destination. If any copies fail, abort the entire backup

* For every store (mailbox and public folder) verify the store (eseutil 
/k). If any verify fails, abort the entire backup

* If everything is good, signal to delete log files

* Copy any other files you want

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

Anyone know where I can get a copy of the notes from the Exchange Connections 
conference lecture on Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?
Or can someone please post a how to?
Thanks,
Andy
Andy Leedy
Messaging Systems Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply



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RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

2008-12-12 Thread Michael B. Smith
No. Diskshadow creates the snapshot. You call the cmd script to do the
copies. That is why the diskshadow script calls the cmd script before the
end backup statement.

 

Any vss backup works like this:

 

Pre-backup

Freeze

Thaw

Post-backup

 

Pre-backup will call all registered writers on a server, unless they are
specifically excluded. Freeze creates the snapshot. Between freeze and thaw
is when you create your copies. If you've created a persistent vss copy then
the thaw only has an impact if your copy process failed. Post-backup is just
that - you do post-processing dependent on the success or failure of the
backup.

 

That's just how a vss backup works. It's normally hidden from you by your
backup application.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

 

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

 

 Very interesting.  

 

1)  Does the Diskshadow script backup all the stores and clear the logs?

2)  I assume it's one or the other. If you run the Diskshadow script you
don't need to run the cmd script?

 

The last I heard from Microsoft was that you could use NTBackup if you
copied the NTBackup programs from a Windows 2003 server and that you could
only backup the stores with it. Apparently Volume Shadow Service is not
compatible with Exchange and needs disabled. See procedure below.

 

-Andy Leedy

 

Only three files required

Ntbackup.exe

Ntmsapi.dll

Vssapi.dll

 

In all cases, files from other OS versions are copied to a folder that is
NOT on the search path

NTBackup MUST be executed from that folder

 

NTBackup will back up any Exchange Store on the system

 

This will allow a file-based backup and restore.

ANY back up stating that it is going to use shadow copy to back up will fail
(at least in this experiment)

This only works if using files above from Windows Server 2003 RTM, later
versions have removed the option to disable Volume Shadow Copy

This will be an issue with 64-bit backups (executable availability)

 

This method will NOT allow a system state backup

System State forces a Volume Shadow Copy-based backup, option to disable
grayed-out

Several Microsoft articles state that if the system state is backed-up to
the system volume, the data within the system state may change during the
backup

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

 

Well, I'll be giving the presentation again, in more detail, at TEC'09.

 

If you were at the Connections'08 conference, you should have a login and be
able to download the presentation and the scripts.

 

And I'm developing it, as a long series of articles, on my blog. But long
story short:

 

Diskshadow script:

set verbose on
set context persistent
set metadata c:\temp\20081030184921.cab
begin backup
add volume C: alias shadow_C
create
expose %shadow_C% g:
exec c:\temp\20081030184921.cmd
end backup
exit

 

CMD.exe script:

. More complex. Multiple phases involved.

. For every storage group, copy all stores, log files, and system
files from source to destination. If any copies fail, abort the entire
backup

. For every store (mailbox and public folder) verify the store
(eseutil /k). If any verify fails, abort the entire backup

. If everything is good, signal to delete log files

. Copy any other files you want

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

 

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

 

Anyone know where I can get a copy of the notes from the Exchange
Connections conference lecture on Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups
the Easy Way?

Or can someone please post a how to?

Thanks,
Andy

Andy Leedy
Messaging Systems Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply

 

 

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RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

2008-12-12 Thread Leedy, Andy
Very useful info Michael!  Any chance you post a working example CMD.exe script?

Thanks,
Andy Leedy

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

No. Diskshadow creates the snapshot. You call the cmd script to do the copies. 
That is why the diskshadow script calls the cmd script before the end backup 
statement.

Any vss backup works like this:

Pre-backup
Freeze
Thaw
Post-backup

Pre-backup will call all registered writers on a server, unless they are 
specifically excluded. Freeze creates the snapshot. Between freeze and thaw is 
when you create your copies. If you've created a persistent vss copy then the 
thaw only has an impact if your copy process failed. Post-backup is just that - 
you do post-processing dependent on the success or failure of the backup.

That's just how a vss backup works. It's normally hidden from you by your 
backup application.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

 Very interesting.


1)  Does the Diskshadow script backup all the stores and clear the logs?

2)  I assume it's one or the other. If you run the Diskshadow script you 
don't need to run the cmd script?

The last I heard from Microsoft was that you could use NTBackup if you copied 
the NTBackup programs from a Windows 2003 server and that you could only backup 
the stores with it. Apparently Volume Shadow Service is not compatible with 
Exchange and needs disabled. See procedure below.

-Andy Leedy


Only three files required

Ntbackup.exe

Ntmsapi.dll

Vssapi.dll



In all cases, files from other OS versions are copied to a folder that is NOT 
on the search path

NTBackup MUST be executed from that folder



NTBackup will back up any Exchange Store on the system



This will allow a file-based backup and restore.

ANY back up stating that it is going to use shadow copy to back up will fail 
(at least in this experiment)

This only works if using files above from Windows Server 2003 RTM, later 
versions have removed the option to disable Volume Shadow Copy

This will be an issue with 64-bit backups (executable availability)



This method will NOT allow a system state backup

System State forces a Volume Shadow Copy-based backup, option to disable 
grayed-out
Several Microsoft articles state that if the system state is backed-up to the 
system volume, the data within the system state may change during the backup

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

Well, I'll be giving the presentation again, in more detail, at TEC'09.

If you were at the Connections'08 conference, you should have a login and be 
able to download the presentation and the scripts.

And I'm developing it, as a long series of articles, on my blog. But long story 
short:

Diskshadow script:
set verbose on
set context persistent
set metadata c:\temp\20081030184921.cab
begin backup
add volume C: alias shadow_C
create
expose %shadow_C% g:
exec c:\temp\20081030184921.cmd
end backup
exit

CMD.exe script:

* More complex. Multiple phases involved.

* For every storage group, copy all stores, log files, and system files 
from source to destination. If any copies fail, abort the entire backup

* For every store (mailbox and public folder) verify the store (eseutil 
/k). If any verify fails, abort the entire backup

* If everything is good, signal to delete log files

* Copy any other files you want

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?

Anyone know where I can get a copy of the notes from the Exchange Connections 
conference lecture on Exchange 2007 and Windows 2008: Backups the Easy Way?
Or can someone please post a how to?
Thanks,
Andy
Andy Leedy
Messaging Systems Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply



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