RE: Client Permissions

2010-01-26 Thread Sobey, Richard A
We use the old 2003 ESM for that. So yes, you can, but not with 2007's [SP1] 
pitiful implementation of it.

From: bounce-8802284-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
[mailto:bounce-8802284-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Lynden 
A. Philadelphia
Sent: 26 January 2010 03:17
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Client Permissions

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to administer public folders client 
permissions via the GUI?



Exchange 5.5 - Exchange 2010 Migration

2010-01-26 Thread John Stevens

Does anyone know the best way to migrate mailboxes from Exchange 5.5 into
Exchange 2010?

Would it be to just pst it all using exmerge?

Comments appreciated

John
Messaging Consultant




RE: MDBDATA Folder

2010-01-26 Thread Cameron Cooper
We only have 50-60 users here and one Exchange 2003 server.

_
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System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

-Original Message-
From: Osborne, Richard [mailto:richard.osbo...@wth.org] 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Folder

I get 3-4gb of logs a day, so that seems okay to me.  4000 mailboxes,
Exchange 2003SP2 on Server 2003.  Is that out of the norm?  Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Folder

23GB of logs in 7 days? That's one busy storage group!

-Original Message-
From: bounce-8796511-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
[mailto:bounce-8796511-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of
Cameron Cooper
Sent: 19 January 2010 17:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Folder

The oldest log file in there is from 1/13/2010 4:43pm and the newest
file is from today at 11:04am.

We only have had one store as we have one exchange server (Windows 2003
R2, Exchange 2003 SP2).

_
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System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

-Original Message-
From: James Wells [mailto:jam...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MDBDATA Folder

Another question not asked...are these log files RECENT?  i.e. How old
is the newest file?  If they correlate to a store that has been
deleted or the log path was moved, BE won't purge that location after
backup completes...

--James


On 1/19/10, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:
 Exchange new-be here... looking on our exchange server under the
 following folder \Exchsrvr\MDBDATA and noticed that there are 23.6GB
 worth of log files in there.  Are these safe to delete?



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Inc

 Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com  | www.aurico.com





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RE: MDBDATA Folder

2010-01-26 Thread John Cook
It depends on how many files your people are swapping as well, each log file is 
5Mb so if you have a lot of files going back and forth it can grow pretty 
quickly. Single instance storage is a huge help with this but so is user 
training.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Folder

We only have 50-60 users here and one Exchange 2003 server.

_
Cameron Cooper
System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

-Original Message-
From: Osborne, Richard [mailto:richard.osbo...@wth.org]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Folder

I get 3-4gb of logs a day, so that seems okay to me.  4000 mailboxes,
Exchange 2003SP2 on Server 2003.  Is that out of the norm?  Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Folder

23GB of logs in 7 days? That's one busy storage group!

-Original Message-
From: bounce-8796511-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
[mailto:bounce-8796511-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of
Cameron Cooper
Sent: 19 January 2010 17:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Folder

The oldest log file in there is from 1/13/2010 4:43pm and the newest
file is from today at 11:04am.

We only have had one store as we have one exchange server (Windows 2003
R2, Exchange 2003 SP2).

_
Cameron Cooper
System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

-Original Message-
From: James Wells [mailto:jam...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MDBDATA Folder

Another question not asked...are these log files RECENT?  i.e. How old
is the newest file?  If they correlate to a store that has been
deleted or the log path was moved, BE won't purge that location after
backup completes...

--James


On 1/19/10, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:
 Exchange new-be here... looking on our exchange server under the
 following folder \Exchsrvr\MDBDATA and noticed that there are 23.6GB
 worth of log files in there.  Are these safe to delete?



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Inc

 Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com  | www.aurico.com





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Quick Powershell question - get-group

2010-01-26 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
I am trying to use the get-group command to return a list of the members of
a group.  If I use the following command I only get the first couple of
members, but the group has probably 50 people in it.  What can I do to get
the full list?

get-group -id groupname | fl DisplayName, Members


*Note that I am using the actual group name, rather than groupname.

I could swear I've done this before, but I can't figure out how.

Thanks for the help!

Rob


RE: Exchange 5.5 - Exchange 2010 Migration

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Blackstone
Check out the Exchange Deployment Assistant:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/exdeploy2010/default.aspx


-Original Message-
From: John Stevens [mailto:j...@js-internet.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:00 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5 - Exchange 2010 Migration


Does anyone know the best way to migrate mailboxes from Exchange 5.5 into
Exchange 2010?

Would it be to just pst it all using exmerge?

Comments appreciated

John
Messaging Consultant





RE: Quick Powershell question - get-group

2010-01-26 Thread Campbell, Rob
Get-group -id groupname | select -expand members

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Quick Powershell question - get-group

I am trying to use the get-group command to return a list of the members of a 
group.  If I use the following command I only get the first couple of members, 
but the group has probably 50 people in it.  What can I do to get the full list?

get-group -id groupname | fl DisplayName, Members


*Note that I am using the actual group name, rather than groupname.

I could swear I've done this before, but I can't figure out how.

Thanks for the help!

Rob
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RE: Exchange 5.5 - Exchange 2010 Migration

2010-01-26 Thread Neil Hobson
The Quest Migration Suite for Exchange could go from 5.5 to 2007 but I'm not
sure if it has been updated for 2010 yet.  Might be worth checking.

-Original Message-
From: John Stevens [mailto:j...@js-internet.co.uk] 
Sent: 26 January 2010 14:00
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5 - Exchange 2010 Migration


Does anyone know the best way to migrate mailboxes from Exchange 5.5 into
Exchange 2010?

Would it be to just pst it all using exmerge?

Comments appreciated

John
Messaging Consultant





Re: Quick Powershell question - get-group

2010-01-26 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
Excellent!  Thanks so much.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Campbell, Rob 
rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote:

  Get-group –id “groupname” | select –expand members



 *From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:52 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Quick Powershell question - get-group



 I am trying to use the get-group command to return a list of the members of
 a group.  If I use the following command I only get the first couple of
 members, but the group has probably 50 people in it.  What can I do to get
 the full list?



 get-group -id groupname | fl DisplayName, Members





 *Note that I am using the actual group name, rather than groupname.



 I could swear I've done this before, but I can't figure out how.



 Thanks for the help!



 Rob

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RE: Quick Powershell question - get-group

2010-01-26 Thread Campbell, Rob
If you just want the names,

Get-group -id groupname | select -expand members | select name


From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Quick Powershell question - get-group

Excellent!  Thanks so much.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Campbell, Rob 
rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net 
wrote:
Get-group -id groupname | select -expand members

From: Rob Bonfiglio 
[mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.commailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Quick Powershell question - get-group

I am trying to use the get-group command to return a list of the members of a 
group.  If I use the following command I only get the first couple of members, 
but the group has probably 50 people in it.  What can I do to get the full list?

get-group -id groupname | fl DisplayName, Members


*Note that I am using the actual group name, rather than groupname.

I could swear I've done this before, but I can't figure out how.

Thanks for the help!

Rob

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RE: Exchange 5.5 - Exchange 2010 Migration

2010-01-26 Thread Pauls Hotmail
Version 8.5 - released in December IIRC still does NOT. It is supposed to be
included in the very next release 8.6, but there's no word when that will be
available yet...

HTH

Paul G.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:nhob...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 January 2010 15:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 - Exchange 2010 Migration

The Quest Migration Suite for Exchange could go from 5.5 to 2007 but I'm not
sure if it has been updated for 2010 yet.  Might be worth checking.

-Original Message-
From: John Stevens [mailto:j...@js-internet.co.uk] 
Sent: 26 January 2010 14:00
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5 - Exchange 2010 Migration


Does anyone know the best way to migrate mailboxes from Exchange 5.5 into
Exchange 2010?

Would it be to just pst it all using exmerge?

Comments appreciated

John
Messaging Consultant







Exchange 2003 Blackberry and other Mobile phones

2010-01-26 Thread David L Herrick
What is the quickest, easiest, cheapest way to do?

Long story short one BB user on the road has killed her laptop and
desperately needs to get into her email

How to setup quickly and cheaply? Can't imagine it would grow to more
than 4 users (at this point)


tx


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RE: Exchange 2003 Blackberry and other Mobile phones

2010-01-26 Thread Louis, Joe
OWA

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From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003  Blackberry and other Mobile phones

What is the quickest, easiest, cheapest way to do?

Long story short one BB user on the road has killed her laptop and
desperately needs to get into her email

How to setup quickly and cheaply? Can't imagine it would grow to more
than 4 users (at this point)


tx


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RE: Exchange 2003 Blackberry and other Mobile phones

2010-01-26 Thread David L Herrick
Thanks  does that mean I need to get a cert to the BB? How easy is that
to accomplish? We generate the certs from MS cert server

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From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003  Blackberry and other Mobile phones

OWA

-Original Message-
From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003  Blackberry and other Mobile phones

What is the quickest, easiest, cheapest way to do?

Long story short one BB user on the road has killed her laptop and
desperately needs to get into her email

How to setup quickly and cheaply? Can't imagine it would grow to more
than 4 users (at this point)


tx


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RE: Exchange 2003 Blackberry and other Mobile phones

2010-01-26 Thread N Parr
Forward her email to her BIS account and set it up to look like it's her
corp email when she replies to messages. 

-Original Message-
From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003  Blackberry and other Mobile phones

What is the quickest, easiest, cheapest way to do?

Long story short one BB user on the road has killed her laptop and
desperately needs to get into her email

How to setup quickly and cheaply? Can't imagine it would grow to more
than 4 users (at this point)


tx


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RE: Exchange 2003 Blackberry and other Mobile phones

2010-01-26 Thread David Mazzaccaro
If the BB has internet access (and data plan), and if you have OWA
accessible to the outside world, logon to OWA from the BB.


-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003  Blackberry and other Mobile phones

Forward her email to her BIS account and set it up to look like it's her
corp email when she replies to messages. 

-Original Message-
From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003  Blackberry and other Mobile phones

What is the quickest, easiest, cheapest way to do?

Long story short one BB user on the road has killed her laptop and
desperately needs to get into her email

How to setup quickly and cheaply? Can't imagine it would grow to more
than 4 users (at this point)


tx


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Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

2010-01-26 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Just upgraded to 12.5 today after being on 10d for years. 

Looking for what this really is. Is this just another brick level
backup routine?

Anyone using this? Good/Bad reviews.

 

Would Michael B. Smith approve of GRT? J

 

Thanks




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Re: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

2010-01-26 Thread Richard Stovall
I've been using it for about 4 months.  Luckily all I've had to restore are
individual messages, and it has worked perfectly each time.  If I understand
the semantics correctly, the ability to pluck out and restore individual
messages is a step more granular than a brick level backup/restore, and is
appropriately called a message level backup/restore.

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  Just upgraded to 12.5 today after being on 10d for years.

 Looking for what this really is. Is this just another “brick level” backup
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 Anyone using this? Good/Bad reviews.



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RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

2010-01-26 Thread Carol Fee
Very brick level - down to individual items.  Takes up a lot of space.

CFee
From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

Just upgraded to 12.5 today after being on 10d for years.
Looking for what this really is. Is this just another brick level backup 
routine?
Anyone using this? Good/Bad reviews.

Would Michael B. Smith approve of GRT? :)

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RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

2010-01-26 Thread Eldridge, Dave
That's my point. I know what brickl level is/does but no one I know uses
it. 

 

That's why the MBS seal of approval?

 

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

 

Very brick level - down to individual items.  Takes up a lot of space.

 

CFee

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

 

Just upgraded to 12.5 today after being on 10d for years. 

Looking for what this really is. Is this just another brick level
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Anyone using this? Good/Bad reviews.

 

Would Michael B. Smith approve of GRT? J

 

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RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

2010-01-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
It isn't, strictly speaking, a blb.

OTOH, it depends on Symantec properly decoding the contents of an Exchange 
database - as a database.

While that can surely be done (and lots of people sell products based on that 
capability), there is lots of room for error. Lots.

Personally, I think you have deleted item recovery, the capability is built 
into Exchange, and you should use it. (The generic you, of course - not 
pointing fingers at Dave...)

Backups are for DR. [I've written a paper on this that should be published on 
Simple-Talk soon.]

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

Just upgraded to 12.5 today after being on 10d for years. 
Looking for what this really is. Is this just another “brick level” backup 
routine?
Anyone using this? Good/Bad reviews.

Would Michael B. Smith approve of GRT? ☺

Thanks


RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

2010-01-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
As far as the seal of approval question - I don't recommend it any more than 
I recommend BLB. Which is, not at all.

That being said, some businesses have valid needs. Far be it from me to suggest 
they not use a capability which they actually need.

That being said, as I already said, Exchange has a better solution - built in. 
:-)

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

It isn't, strictly speaking, a blb.

OTOH, it depends on Symantec properly decoding the contents of an Exchange 
database - as a database.

While that can surely be done (and lots of people sell products based on that 
capability), there is lots of room for error. Lots.

Personally, I think you have deleted item recovery, the capability is built 
into Exchange, and you should use it. (The generic you, of course - not 
pointing fingers at Dave...)

Backups are for DR. [I've written a paper on this that should be published on 
Simple-Talk soon.]

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

Just upgraded to 12.5 today after being on 10d for years. 
Looking for what this really is. Is this just another “brick level” backup 
routine?
Anyone using this? Good/Bad reviews.

Would Michael B. Smith approve of GRT? ☺

Thanks


RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

2010-01-26 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Thanks
I think I'll pass for now.

dave

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

As far as the seal of approval question - I don't recommend it any more than 
I recommend BLB. Which is, not at all.

That being said, some businesses have valid needs. Far be it from me to suggest 
they not use a capability which they actually need.

That being said, as I already said, Exchange has a better solution - built in. 
:-)

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

It isn't, strictly speaking, a blb.

OTOH, it depends on Symantec properly decoding the contents of an Exchange 
database - as a database.

While that can surely be done (and lots of people sell products based on that 
capability), there is lots of room for error. Lots.

Personally, I think you have deleted item recovery, the capability is built 
into Exchange, and you should use it. (The generic you, of course - not 
pointing fingers at Dave...)

Backups are for DR. [I've written a paper on this that should be published on 
Simple-Talk soon.]

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec BEX 12.5 GRT backups good/bad

Just upgraded to 12.5 today after being on 10d for years. 
Looking for what this really is. Is this just another “brick level” backup 
routine?
Anyone using this? Good/Bad reviews.

Would Michael B. Smith approve of GRT? ☺

Thanks



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