RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147

2012-06-01 Thread Simon Butler
Every time I see issues with CCRs I usually just end up replacing the SG. If 
you create a new SG, replicate it, then move the mailboxes you can control the 
bandwidth used. Very little else works. I wouldn't have bothered with eseutil 
myself, just recreated the SG and moved the mailboxes. Zero downtime, zero risk.

Simon.

From: Fergal O'Connell1 [mailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com]
Sent: 31 May 2012 10:10
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147

Bump!

I wont get the finance to open a PSS call with Microsoft.

Anyway - I created a new mailstore moved all the mailboxes to the new store.
Dismounted the faulty mailstore and did a
eseutil /d - to remove all the whitespace and free up disk space
eseutil /p
eseutil /mh

I am still getting the same error message.
Any thoughts on resolving this?

Can I delete this Storage group and still restore the mailstore etc









From:Michael B. Smith 
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To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
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Date:24/05/2012 13:45
Subject:RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147




Then I'd open a CSS call. This isn't common enough that I've seen it. Perhaps 
simonB or stevieG or someone else has?

From: Fergal O'Connell1 [mailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147

I just don't understand why it works for 2 Storage groups but not this one!

Is there a work around that I could try implement?
Like moving all the users on that mail store to another mail store and then 
deleting the problematic storage group - but I would rather not have to do that 
if at all possible.

I am also in the middle of restoring mailboxes to that mail store due to a 
legal issue - if I delete this mail store now will this affect the restores 
using an RSG




Regards
Fergal O'Connell
ICT Network Support
CĂșram Software an IBM company



From:Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com,
Date:24/05/2012 12:36
Subject:RE: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147





SMB2 caching is not a problem on Windows 2003.

There are some fileserver tuning values that you can adjust on 2003, but I 
don't know if they'll help or not. See:

http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/fix-for-stuttering-corrupted-streaming-of-live-tv.91214/page-24

Windows 2003 and Exchange 2007 are a fairly rare combination in 2012. It's 
entirely possible you've run into an edge-case bug.

-Original Message-
From: foconn...@ie.ibm.commailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com 
[mailto:foconn...@ie.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: CCR Replication error Event ID 2147

Hi

I have a Windows 2003 CCR on Exchange 2007 SP3 R6.

On one of the 3 Storage groups I have a failed copy status.

And the following events are logged

Log file action LogCopy failed for storage group MailSrv\MailStore4. Reason: 
Access to the path '\\cms1\30ecd310-0116-4031-b730-2fc8b28dcd8d$' is denied.

There was a problem with 'cms1', which is an alternate name for 'CMS1'. The 
list of aliases is now 'cms1', and the alias 'was' removed from the list. The 
specific problem is 'Access to the path 
'\\cms1\30ecd310-0116-4031-b730-2fc8b28dcd8d$' is denied.'.

The other storage groups are fine.

I have tried to stop the replication service - delete the logs and the mail 
stores for the passive node and reseed the database.

This has not fixed the issue.

I have seen a lot of suggested fixes which should be fixed in SP2 and SP3 - 
also relatd articles in Windows 2008.

Can somebody suggest a fix for this?

Is this applicable to Windows 2003?

http://problemgone.blogspot.com/2010/12/msexchange-repl-2104-logcopy-failed.html
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RE: dag issue?

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Cookman
Does anyone use circular logging on their primary dag node?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 16:14
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Huh. I've been using this in Win 2012. Didn't realize it was available in Win 
2008 R2.

Be aware: if you use this in a DAG situation, you then become responsible for 
all quorum management issues.

From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Very interesting, thanks.

From: Robinson, Chuck 
[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]mailto:[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 15:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

I believe this will work for you. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2494036

Chuck Robinson
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MCITP: EA Windows Server 2008

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From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Do you know if there is a way to have a two node multisite Dag that cannot 
failover unless I want to. I don't mean -Activateonly where the DB on the 
remote site cannot come up, I mean where the primary node can have its witness 
get rebooted or itself and the DBs in the Primary will always come up with out 
the remote node stealing quorum?

Regards

Paul.





From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 12:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

What I don't understand is why it effected all databases on the server when 
there was only one DB in the dag, it doesn't sound right because what if I 
wanted to have an active active?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 09:07
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

If it's multi-site yep

Steve

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 08:49
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

This does sound like what happened, I was a bit surprised as I only had one 
test DB in the Dag, I didn't expect it to effect all databases.

Would you still go with having DAC mode on?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 07:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: dag issue?

As a first point of call I would look at increasing the cluster timeout 
settings. I've heard similar things about Veeam before during backup - mainly 
nodes failing over and IIRC there is some threads on the Veeam Community site 
about the issue.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2012, at 11:07, Paul Cookman 
paul.cook...@selection.co.ukmailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk wrote:
I had an issue Friday morning I wanted to run past someone. I have created a 
two node Dag multisite with witness in the primary site, DAC enabled. I am 
testing as I go so I only had a test DB as part of the DAG. (Servers are 
Virtualised and use Veeam for backups) While committing the snapshot the 
primary server momentarily lost communication to all servers and all the (LIVE) 
databases dismounted and wouldn't remount. In a state of panic I removed the 
Dag to get users working again.

I think from going through the logs that possibly the remote site node got 
quorum of the witness and then it believed that the databases were up on the 
remote site (set to Activate only and not automatic by the way). Possibly if I 
had rebooted the remote server the primary would of got quorum again and 
allowed me to mount databases?

Any thoughts on this as I need to be able to reboot the primary server if 
needed without the databases not being able to mount. I don't mind my failover 
being completely a manual process.

What do you think on what happened and a solution to my problem?

Kindest regards,

Paul.



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RE: dag issue?

2012-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Lots of people. If you aren't doing backups, there is no need to retain 
logfiles...

From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Does anyone use circular logging on their primary dag node?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 16:14
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Huh. I've been using this in Win 2012. Didn't realize it was available in Win 
2008 R2.

Be aware: if you use this in a DAG situation, you then become responsible for 
all quorum management issues.

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Very interesting, thanks.

From: Robinson, Chuck 
[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]mailto:[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 15:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

I believe this will work for you. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2494036

Chuck Robinson
___
Sr. Solutions Architect
Microsoft Certified Master: Exchange 2010
MCITP: EA Windows Server 2008

EMC Consulting
Mobile: 973-865-0394
chuck.robin...@emc.commailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com
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From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Do you know if there is a way to have a two node multisite Dag that cannot 
failover unless I want to. I don't mean -Activateonly where the DB on the 
remote site cannot come up, I mean where the primary node can have its witness 
get rebooted or itself and the DBs in the Primary will always come up with out 
the remote node stealing quorum?

Regards

Paul.





From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 12:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

What I don't understand is why it effected all databases on the server when 
there was only one DB in the dag, it doesn't sound right because what if I 
wanted to have an active active?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 09:07
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

If it's multi-site yep

Steve

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 08:49
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

This does sound like what happened, I was a bit surprised as I only had one 
test DB in the Dag, I didn't expect it to effect all databases.

Would you still go with having DAC mode on?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 07:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: dag issue?

As a first point of call I would look at increasing the cluster timeout 
settings. I've heard similar things about Veeam before during backup - mainly 
nodes failing over and IIRC there is some threads on the Veeam Community site 
about the issue.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2012, at 11:07, Paul Cookman 
paul.cook...@selection.co.ukmailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk wrote:
I had an issue Friday morning I wanted to run past someone. I have created a 
two node Dag multisite with witness in the primary site, DAC enabled. I am 
testing as I go so I only had a test DB as part of the DAG. (Servers are 
Virtualised and use Veeam for backups) While committing the snapshot the 
primary server momentarily lost communication to all servers and all the (LIVE) 
databases dismounted and wouldn't remount. In a state of panic I removed the 
Dag to get users working again.

I think from going through the logs that possibly the remote site node got 
quorum of the witness and then it believed that the databases were up on the 
remote site (set to Activate only and not automatic by the way). Possibly if I 
had rebooted the remote server the primary would of got quorum again and 
allowed me to mount databases?

Any thoughts on this as I need to be able to reboot the primary server if 
needed without the databases not being able to mount. I don't mind my failover 
being completely a manual process.

What do you think on what happened and a solution to my problem?

Kindest regards,

Paul.



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RE: dag issue?

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Cookman
I do backups, I am just finding that Veeam is not committing the logs when any 
of the databases are set to replicate.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 01 June 2012 09:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Lots of people. If you aren't doing backups, there is no need to retain 
logfiles...

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Does anyone use circular logging on their primary dag node?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 16:14
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Huh. I've been using this in Win 2012. Didn't realize it was available in Win 
2008 R2.

Be aware: if you use this in a DAG situation, you then become responsible for 
all quorum management issues.

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Very interesting, thanks.

From: Robinson, Chuck 
[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]mailto:[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 15:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

I believe this will work for you. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2494036

Chuck Robinson
___
Sr. Solutions Architect
Microsoft Certified Master: Exchange 2010
MCITP: EA Windows Server 2008

EMC Consulting
Mobile: 973-865-0394
chuck.robin...@emc.commailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com
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Transforming Information Into Business Results

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Do you know if there is a way to have a two node multisite Dag that cannot 
failover unless I want to. I don't mean -Activateonly where the DB on the 
remote site cannot come up, I mean where the primary node can have its witness 
get rebooted or itself and the DBs in the Primary will always come up with out 
the remote node stealing quorum?

Regards

Paul.





From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 12:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

What I don't understand is why it effected all databases on the server when 
there was only one DB in the dag, it doesn't sound right because what if I 
wanted to have an active active?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 09:07
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

If it's multi-site yep

Steve

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 08:49
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

This does sound like what happened, I was a bit surprised as I only had one 
test DB in the Dag, I didn't expect it to effect all databases.

Would you still go with having DAC mode on?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 07:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: dag issue?

As a first point of call I would look at increasing the cluster timeout 
settings. I've heard similar things about Veeam before during backup - mainly 
nodes failing over and IIRC there is some threads on the Veeam Community site 
about the issue.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2012, at 11:07, Paul Cookman 
paul.cook...@selection.co.ukmailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk wrote:
I had an issue Friday morning I wanted to run past someone. I have created a 
two node Dag multisite with witness in the primary site, DAC enabled. I am 
testing as I go so I only had a test DB as part of the DAG. (Servers are 
Virtualised and use Veeam for backups) While committing the snapshot the 
primary server momentarily lost communication to all servers and all the (LIVE) 
databases dismounted and wouldn't remount. In a state of panic I removed the 
Dag to get users working again.

I think from going through the logs that possibly the remote site node got 
quorum of the witness and then it believed that the databases were up on the 
remote site (set to Activate only and not automatic by the way). Possibly if I 
had rebooted the remote server the primary would of got quorum again and 
allowed me to mount databases?

Any thoughts on this as I need to be able to reboot the primary server if 
needed without the databases not being able to mount. I don't mind my failover 
being completely a manual process.

What do you think on what happened and a solution to my problem?

Kindest regards,

Paul.



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RE: dag issue?

2012-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Ah. Well, circular logging eliminates the possibility of point-in-time recovery 
(just like simple logging in SQL). If that's ok with you, then turn it on.

But I'd personally get Veeam to fix their problem. VSS is really not that hard.

From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

I do backups, I am just finding that Veeam is not committing the logs when any 
of the databases are set to replicate.

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 01 June 2012 09:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Lots of people. If you aren't doing backups, there is no need to retain 
logfiles...

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Does anyone use circular logging on their primary dag node?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 16:14
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Huh. I've been using this in Win 2012. Didn't realize it was available in Win 
2008 R2.

Be aware: if you use this in a DAG situation, you then become responsible for 
all quorum management issues.

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Very interesting, thanks.

From: Robinson, Chuck 
[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]mailto:[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 15:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

I believe this will work for you. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2494036

Chuck Robinson
___
Sr. Solutions Architect
Microsoft Certified Master: Exchange 2010
MCITP: EA Windows Server 2008

EMC Consulting
Mobile: 973-865-0394
chuck.robin...@emc.commailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com
www.emc.com/consultinghttp://www.emc.com/consulting

Transforming Information Into Business Results

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Do you know if there is a way to have a two node multisite Dag that cannot 
failover unless I want to. I don't mean -Activateonly where the DB on the 
remote site cannot come up, I mean where the primary node can have its witness 
get rebooted or itself and the DBs in the Primary will always come up with out 
the remote node stealing quorum?

Regards

Paul.





From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 12:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

What I don't understand is why it effected all databases on the server when 
there was only one DB in the dag, it doesn't sound right because what if I 
wanted to have an active active?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 09:07
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

If it's multi-site yep

Steve

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 08:49
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

This does sound like what happened, I was a bit surprised as I only had one 
test DB in the Dag, I didn't expect it to effect all databases.

Would you still go with having DAC mode on?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 07:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: dag issue?

As a first point of call I would look at increasing the cluster timeout 
settings. I've heard similar things about Veeam before during backup - mainly 
nodes failing over and IIRC there is some threads on the Veeam Community site 
about the issue.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2012, at 11:07, Paul Cookman 
paul.cook...@selection.co.ukmailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk wrote:
I had an issue Friday morning I wanted to run past someone. I have created a 
two node Dag multisite with witness in the primary site, DAC enabled. I am 
testing as I go so I only had a test DB as part of the DAG. (Servers are 
Virtualised and use Veeam for backups) While committing the snapshot the 
primary server momentarily lost communication to all servers and all the (LIVE) 
databases dismounted and wouldn't remount. In a state of panic I removed the 
Dag to get users working again.

I think from going through the logs that possibly the remote site node got 
quorum of the witness and then it believed that the databases were up on the 
remote site (set to Activate only and not automatic by the way). Possibly if I 
had rebooted the remote server the primary would of got quorum again and 

RE: dag issue?

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Cookman
Ok, thanks for the advice as always.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 01 June 2012 10:56
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Ah. Well, circular logging eliminates the possibility of point-in-time recovery 
(just like simple logging in SQL). If that's ok with you, then turn it on.

But I'd personally get Veeam to fix their problem. VSS is really not that hard.

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

I do backups, I am just finding that Veeam is not committing the logs when any 
of the databases are set to replicate.

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 01 June 2012 09:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Lots of people. If you aren't doing backups, there is no need to retain 
logfiles...

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Does anyone use circular logging on their primary dag node?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 16:14
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Huh. I've been using this in Win 2012. Didn't realize it was available in Win 
2008 R2.

Be aware: if you use this in a DAG situation, you then become responsible for 
all quorum management issues.

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Very interesting, thanks.

From: Robinson, Chuck 
[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]mailto:[mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 15:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

I believe this will work for you. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2494036

Chuck Robinson
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From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

Do you know if there is a way to have a two node multisite Dag that cannot 
failover unless I want to. I don't mean -Activateonly where the DB on the 
remote site cannot come up, I mean where the primary node can have its witness 
get rebooted or itself and the DBs in the Primary will always come up with out 
the remote node stealing quorum?

Regards

Paul.





From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 12:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

What I don't understand is why it effected all databases on the server when 
there was only one DB in the dag, it doesn't sound right because what if I 
wanted to have an active active?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 09:07
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

If it's multi-site yep

Steve

From: Paul Cookman 
[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk]
Sent: 28 May 2012 08:49
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: dag issue?

This does sound like what happened, I was a bit surprised as I only had one 
test DB in the Dag, I didn't expect it to effect all databases.

Would you still go with having DAC mode on?

From: Steve Goodman 
[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]mailto:[mailto:st...@stevieg.org]
Sent: 28 May 2012 07:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: dag issue?

As a first point of call I would look at increasing the cluster timeout 
settings. I've heard similar things about Veeam before during backup - mainly 
nodes failing over and IIRC there is some threads on the Veeam Community site 
about the issue.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2012, at 11:07, Paul Cookman 
paul.cook...@selection.co.ukmailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk wrote:
I had an issue Friday morning I wanted to run past someone. I have created a 
two node Dag multisite with witness in the primary site, DAC enabled. I am 
testing as I go so I only had a test DB as part of the DAG. (Servers are 
Virtualised and use Veeam for backups) While committing the snapshot the 
primary server momentarily lost communication to all servers and all the (LIVE) 
databases dismounted and wouldn't remount. In a state of panic I removed the 
Dag to get users working again.

I think from going through the logs that possibly the remote site node got 
quorum of the 

RE: Distribution lists in GUI tree view?

2012-06-01 Thread Guyer, Don
Gonna need a 3rd party app for that. We're currently looking for the same tool 
(plus admin capabilities):

http://www.stealthbits.com/directory-services/active-directory
http://www.adutils.com/jiji-active-directory-reports.aspx?index=0
http://www.ldapsoft.com/activedirectoryreports/adreports.html
http://www.varonis.com/products/datadvantage/directory-services/index.html

Quest (old ScriptLogic) has one also.

Regards,

Don Guyer
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Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
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From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Distribution lists in GUI tree view?

I would like to see nested distribution lists and members without opening the 
properties of each distribution list.

-Andy

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Distribution lists in GUI tree view?

Help me help you.

What's wrong with AD Users  Computers or the AD Administrative Center?

From: Leedy, Andy 
[mailto:ale...@butlerschein.com]mailto:[mailto:ale...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Distribution lists in GUI tree view?

Does anyone know of application that display all an origination's distribution 
lists and possibly security groups in a tree style view?  We have a ton of 
distro lists and security groups, many of which were here before I started and 
I would like to map them all out so that I can do a clean up.

Thanks,
Andy Leedy

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