Switch to Exchange?
Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
Hi Simon, Thanks for the info. You've given me another option I'll have to seriously look at. Also thanks for the input on connection speeds. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? With 10 users, I know what I would be looking at - Small Business Server. For the cost of a full Exchange 2007 license and the CALs you could probably have a completely new system to run SBS. Buy it with Software Assurance as SBS 2008 is due very shortly (RTM last week). Then install BES on your existing machine where it can use the SQL server. If you are still looking at a hosted solution, as long as you use cached mode, most xDSL type connections will be fine. I have run more than 20 users on a regular 4mb xDSL (256k up) without any problems. The initial setup when you import your existing mail is the only slight headache. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset.co.uk w: www.amset.info Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2008 15:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
Thanks for answering. I really like Mdaemon, so if I can I would like to keep it. So your input on the number of users is helpful. -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? If you really need Exchange and only have 10 users I would look at a hosted solution, there's a lot out there and they could handle your BB's also. We were an Mdaemon shop also until we got to about 100 users and needed Exchange for work flow routing etc with our ERP. I still use Mdaemon as a secondary Gateway behind our Barracuda for spam/virus detection. For a couple hundred $$/year it makes a great secondary gateway scanner and backup if the primary were to ever fail. _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
Hi BJ, Thanks, it's good to hear it's doable! Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Switch to Exchange? Daniel, We've used SBS 2k3 for years and have recently put BES on it. It's worked great for us. We have about 70 users (most of whom are remote) and have had very few issues with connectivity or our server bogging down. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:14:11 AM Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? Hi Simon, Thanks for the info. You've given me another option I'll have to seriously look at. Also thanks for the input on connection speeds. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? With 10 users, I know what I would be looking at - Small Business Server. For the cost of a full Exchange 2007 license and the CALs you could probably have a completely new system to run SBS. Buy it with Software Assurance as SBS 2008 is due very shortly (RTM last week). Then install BES on your existing machine where it can use the SQL server. If you are still looking at a hosted solution, as long as you use cached mode, most xDSL type connections will be fine. I have run more than 20 users on a regular 4mb xDSL (256k up) without any problems. The initial setup when you import your existing mail is the only slight headache. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset.co.uk http://www.amset.co.uk/ w: www.amset.info http://www.amset.info/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2008 15:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com http://www.mailstreet.com/ ) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com http://www.altn.com/ . I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel
