Re: A very odd problem...

2009-03-16 Thread Kurt Buff
OK - I think I've got it fixed.

Per MBS's suggestion, I've split the backup into two parts, with the
Exchange backup happening second and appending to the tape.

I've still not mastered RSM, but have found that running rsm refresh
before each instance of ntbackup is dang useful.

I wish rsm were better documented, though. I've spent a good few hours
over the course of the last week trying to figure this out.

Once again, thanks for Mr. Cornetet for the original script, which has
made my life easier.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 05:22, Michael B. Smith
mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote:
 There were early issues with vss causing backups to fail - most of the time 
 but not all - if you backed up the systemstate at the same time as Exchange. 
 I thought all of those were fixed by sp2 tho...You might try splitting them 
 up.

 Have you patched the backup server, specifically have you patched the 
 Exchange tools to match the Exchange server?

 What's going on in the logs and in the backup log? Only that single failure 
 message?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: A very odd problem...

 Anyone? Bueller?

 After lots of fiddling, still no success.

 Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even
 regenerated the .bks file.

 Kurt

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
 E2k3 server - all are SP2  R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange
 server.

 The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and
 for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the
 Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The
 DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server.

 However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange
 backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
 I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange
 server, but it was failing with this error message:

          The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
          The operation was ended.

 I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same
 user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the
 Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file,
 whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it
 fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs
 up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server.

 I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I
 got this time is different, but still a failure:

          The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted.


 I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS,
 and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


 Any help much appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Kurt


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RE: A very odd problem...

2009-03-12 Thread Michael B. Smith
There were early issues with vss causing backups to fail - most of the time but 
not all - if you backed up the systemstate at the same time as Exchange. I 
thought all of those were fixed by sp2 tho...You might try splitting them up.

Have you patched the backup server, specifically have you patched the Exchange 
tools to match the Exchange server?

What's going on in the logs and in the backup log? Only that single failure 
message?

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A very odd problem...

Anyone? Bueller?

After lots of fiddling, still no success.

Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even
regenerated the .bks file.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
 E2k3 server - all are SP2  R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange
 server.

 The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and
 for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the
 Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The
 DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server.

 However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange
 backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
 I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange
 server, but it was failing with this error message:

  The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
  The operation was ended.

 I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same
 user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the
 Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file,
 whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it
 fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs
 up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server.

 I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I
 got this time is different, but still a failure:

  The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted.


 I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS,
 and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


 Any help much appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Kurt


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Re: A very odd problem...

2009-03-12 Thread Kurt Buff
I think the Exchange patch levels are the same on both boxes -
Help/About on EMS for both machines says 6.5.7638.1 - but is there
something else I should check?

I could try doing the Exchange backup first, then appending the local
backup to that.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 05:22, Michael B. Smith
mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote:
 There were early issues with vss causing backups to fail - most of the time 
 but not all - if you backed up the systemstate at the same time as Exchange. 
 I thought all of those were fixed by sp2 tho...You might try splitting them 
 up.

 Have you patched the backup server, specifically have you patched the 
 Exchange tools to match the Exchange server?

 What's going on in the logs and in the backup log? Only that single failure 
 message?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: A very odd problem...

 Anyone? Bueller?

 After lots of fiddling, still no success.

 Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even
 regenerated the .bks file.

 Kurt

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
 E2k3 server - all are SP2  R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange
 server.

 The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and
 for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the
 Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The
 DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server.

 However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange
 backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
 I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange
 server, but it was failing with this error message:

          The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
          The operation was ended.

 I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same
 user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the
 Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file,
 whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it
 fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs
 up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server.

 I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I
 got this time is different, but still a failure:

          The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted.


 I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS,
 and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


 Any help much appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Kurt


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RE: A very odd problem...

2009-03-12 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
I must say that the subject line of this post greatly concerned me at first 
glance. I immediately assumed (for obvious reasons) that this meant that 
Shook's long planned upgrade to ShookieMonster 2.0 had gone terribly wrong. 
WhewThe relief.
TVK

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A very odd problem...

I think the Exchange patch levels are the same on both boxes - Help/About on 
EMS for both machines says 6.5.7638.1 - but is there something else I should 
check?

I could try doing the Exchange backup first, then appending the local backup to 
that.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 05:22, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote:
 There were early issues with vss causing backups to fail - most of the time 
 but not all - if you backed up the systemstate at the same time as Exchange. 
 I thought all of those were fixed by sp2 tho...You might try splitting them 
 up.

 Have you patched the backup server, specifically have you patched the 
 Exchange tools to match the Exchange server?

 What's going on in the logs and in the backup log? Only that single failure 
 message?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: A very odd problem...

 Anyone? Bueller?

 After lots of fiddling, still no success.

 Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even 
 regenerated the .bks file.

 Kurt

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
 E2k3 server - all are SP2���R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange 
 server.

 The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and 
 for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the 
 Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. 
 The DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server.

 However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange 
 backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
 I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange 
 server, but it was failing with this error message:

 �� �� �� �� ��The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
���The operation was ended.

 I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the 
 same user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the 
 Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file, 
 whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it 
 fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs 
 up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server.

 I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I 
 got this time is different, but still a failure:

�� The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set 
aborted.


 I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS, 
 and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


 Any help much appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Kurt


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Re: A very odd problem...

2009-03-11 Thread Kurt Buff
Anyone? Bueller?

After lots of fiddling, still no success.

Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even
regenerated the .bks file.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
 E2k3 server - all are SP2  R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange
 server.

 The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and
 for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the
 Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The
 DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server.

 However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange
 backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
 I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange
 server, but it was failing with this error message:

          The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
          The operation was ended.

 I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same
 user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the
 Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file,
 whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it
 fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs
 up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server.

 I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I
 got this time is different, but still a failure:

          The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted.


 I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS,
 and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


 Any help much appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Kurt


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Re: A very odd problem...

2009-03-11 Thread Matt Moore
Thats why I quit using NT Backup. Seen it too many times, not enough 
hours in the day to chase it.

M

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: A very odd problem...


Anyone? Bueller?

After lots of fiddling, still no success.

Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even
regenerated the .bks file.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

All,

In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
E2k3 server - all are SP2 R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange
server.

The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and
for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the
Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The
DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server.

However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange
backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange
server, but it was failing with this error message:

The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
The operation was ended.

I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same
user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the
Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file,
whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it
fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs
up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server.

I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I
got this time is different, but still a failure:

The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted.


I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS,
and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


Any help much appreciated.

Thanks,

Kurt



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Re: R: A very odd problem...

2009-03-06 Thread Kurt Buff
Well, perhaps, but why does it work when run through the wizard, but
the batch file fails?

g...

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 22:49, HELP_PC g...@enter.it wrote:

 Should be something related to communications .When trying to connect to the 
 database a timeout occurs.


 GuidoElia
 HELPPC

 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Inviato: venerdì 6 marzo 2009 3.05
 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Oggetto: A very odd problem...

 All,

 In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
 E2k3 server - all are SP2  R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange server.

 The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and for about 
 a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the Exchange server - I 
 installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The DC is doing a system state 
 backup to a share the file server.

 However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange backup 
 to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
 I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange server, 
 but it was failing with this error message:

          The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
          The operation was ended.

 I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same user 
 that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the Exchange server's 
 storage group. But when running as a batch file, whether launching the batch 
 file manually or as a scheduled task, it fails to pull the backup of the 
 Exchange server. The batch file backs up the entire file server first, then 
 goes to the Exchange server.

 I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I got this 
 time is different, but still a failure:

          The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted.


 I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS, and 
 pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


 Any help much appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Kurt

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A very odd problem...

2009-03-05 Thread Kurt Buff
All,

In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
E2k3 server - all are SP2  R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange
server.

The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and
for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the
Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The
DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server.

However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange
backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange
server, but it was failing with this error message:

  The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
  The operation was ended.

I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same
user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the
Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file,
whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it
fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs
up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server.

I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I
got this time is different, but still a failure:

  The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted.


I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS,
and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


Any help much appreciated.

Thanks,

Kurt

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R: A very odd problem...

2009-03-05 Thread HELP_PC

Should be something related to communications .When trying to connect to the 
database a timeout occurs. 


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Inviato: venerdì 6 marzo 2009 3.05
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: A very odd problem...

All,

In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an
E2k3 server - all are SP2  R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange server.

The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and for about a 
year it was working just fine pulling backups from the Exchange server - I 
installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The DC is doing a system state 
backup to a share the file server.

However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange backup to 
the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working .
I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange server, 
but it was failing with this error message:

  The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted.
  The operation was ended.

I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same user 
that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the Exchange server's 
storage group. But when running as a batch file, whether launching the batch 
file manually or as a scheduled task, it fails to pull the backup of the 
Exchange server. The batch file backs up the entire file server first, then 
goes to the Exchange server.

I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I got this 
time is different, but still a failure:

  The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted.


I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS, and 
pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances.


Any help much appreciated.

Thanks,

Kurt

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