Appointment issue
I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Appointment issue
I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware - or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Appointment issue
You didn't miss anything, I believe what we have here is the old pebkac issue... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware – or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? -- *From:* David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Appointment issue
Yes your first statement is correct. If the appointment is a month or two from now he wouldn't necessarily be aware of the appointment until the reminder. The issue being that the assistant would like to notify the User of the appointment prior to the appointment reminder in email format without having to write up another email. As far as i know you cannot accept an invite to your own meeting. Which logically makes sense but like i said this wasn't working logically a few months ago. - Original Message From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:49:35 PM Subject: Re: Appointment issue You didn't miss anything, I believe what we have here is the old pebkac issue... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware – or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? From:David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Appointment issue
(boy, that took a minute) - you could be right - something about sufficient promotions to require an assistant (wonder if his name is Peter?) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Appointment issue You didn't miss anything, I believe what we have here is the old pebkac issue... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware - or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Appointment issue
Perhaps the assistant could right-click the meeting and use the reply or forward to send a copy to him? - or just TALK to him? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Appointment issue Yes your first statement is correct. If the appointment is a month or two from now he wouldn't necessarily be aware of the appointment until the reminder. The issue being that the assistant would like to notify the User of the appointment prior to the appointment reminder in email format without having to write up another email. As far as i know you cannot accept an invite to your own meeting. Which logically makes sense but like i said this wasn't working logically a few months ago. - Original Message From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:49:35 PM Subject: Re: Appointment issue You didn't miss anything, I believe what we have here is the old pebkac issue... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware - or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Appointment issue
Other ideas include; Printing a daily calendar summary and putting it on his desk first thing in the morning? Configuring his Outlook to start in Outlook Today configured to show the day or week' events? (and train him to actually LOOK at it) (Getting close to miller time obviously) From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Appointment issue Perhaps the assistant could right-click the meeting and use the reply or forward to send a copy to him? - or just TALK to him? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Appointment issue Yes your first statement is correct. If the appointment is a month or two from now he wouldn't necessarily be aware of the appointment until the reminder. The issue being that the assistant would like to notify the User of the appointment prior to the appointment reminder in email format without having to write up another email. As far as i know you cannot accept an invite to your own meeting. Which logically makes sense but like i said this wasn't working logically a few months ago. - Original Message From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:49:35 PM Subject: Re: Appointment issue You didn't miss anything, I believe what we have here is the old pebkac issue... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware - or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Appointment issue
I was hoping for a reg setting or 'magic' check box. Looks like i will have to settle for a post it. - Original Message From: Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 4:11:18 PM Subject: RE: Appointment issue Perhaps the assistant could right-click the meeting and use the reply or forward to send a copy to him? – or just TALK to him? From:David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Appointment issue Yes your first statement is correct. If the appointment is a month or two from now he wouldn't necessarily be aware of the appointment until the reminder. The issue being that the assistant would like to notify the User of the appointment prior to the appointment reminder in email format without having to write up another email. As far as i know you cannot accept an invite to your own meeting. Which logically makes sense but like i said this wasn't working logically a few months ago. - Original Message From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:49:35 PM Subject: Re: Appointment issue You didn't miss anything, I believe what we have here is the old pebkac issue... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware – or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? From:David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Appointment issue
What was that wonderful quote - something like There are rarely technical solutions for behavioral problems. From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Appointment issue I was hoping for a reg setting or 'magic' check box.. Looks like i will have to settle for a post it. - Original Message From: Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 4:11:18 PM Subject: RE: Appointment issue Perhaps the assistant could right-click the meeting and use the reply or forward to send a copy to him? - or just TALK to him? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Appointment issue Yes your first statement is correct. If the appointment is a month or two from now he wouldn't necessarily be aware of the appointment until the reminder. The issue being that the assistant would like to notify the User of the appointment prior to the appointment reminder in email format without having to write up another email. As far as i know you cannot accept an invite to your own meeting. Which logically makes sense but like i said this wasn't working logically a few months ago. - Original Message From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:49:35 PM Subject: Re: Appointment issue You didn't miss anything, I believe what we have here is the old pebkac issue... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware - or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Appointment issue
PICNIC Problem In Chair Not In Computer On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was that wonderful quote – something like There are rarely technical solutions for behavioral problems. From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Appointment issue I was hoping for a reg setting or 'magic' check box.. Looks like i will have to settle for a post it. - Original Message From: Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 4:11:18 PM Subject: RE: Appointment issue Perhaps the assistant could right-click the meeting and use the reply or forward to send a copy to him? – or just TALK to him? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Appointment issue Yes your first statement is correct. If the appointment is a month or two from now he wouldn't necessarily be aware of the appointment until the reminder. The issue being that the assistant would like to notify the User of the appointment prior to the appointment reminder in email format without having to write up another email. As far as i know you cannot accept an invite to your own meeting. Which logically makes sense but like i said this wasn't working logically a few months ago. - Original Message From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:49:35 PM Subject: Re: Appointment issue You didn't miss anything, I believe what we have here is the old pebkac issue... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something here, but isn't the meeting in the organizer's calendar therefore they would be aware – or reminded assuming that was set? With the current scenario, if the organizer accepts the meeting, does it not change to busy? From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Appointment issue I have an issue where a meeting organizer (actually his assistant) creates a meeting request but also includes the organizer as one of the attendees. They do this so the organizer is aware of the meeting. The problem is that when they receive this meeting request the calendar shows the appointment as tentative instead of busy after it has been processed by the outlook sniffer. The user then has to go into the calendar and resave the meeting as busy. I believe i can turn this feature off by deselecting the process requests and responses on arrival option but i believe this may affect other functions of the sniffer as well. What i have been told is that it has not always worked that way until recently but all the documentation says that's it has or at least it's supposed to work that way. Any feedback or experience or possible workaround would be great to hear. Thanks david ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
