E 2010 backup question

2010-09-01 Thread PRamatowski

Exchange 2010
Two sites
Two mbx/HT servers in each site
Three DB's per server
Three way DAG,  one copy go to the other server in the site and a copy to a 
server in the other site.  No lag copies.
Single 1 tb volume holds its own DB/logs. For example, L: has a 197gb database 
and 218gb logs (we're smack in the middle of 2003 to 2010 migration)


So, a well-known 3rd party backup tells us they can't back up if there are more 
than 15-20gb of log files per volume (to be addressed soon)


I'm running a native MS backup that's been doing the consistency check for 
going on 14 hours; I know it can take a long time and I'm not quite at the 
point of worrying about that- yet.  But between worrying about not having a 
backup and running out of disk space

In theory,  could we enable circular logging, stop services, move logs, start 
services, do backup all the while hoping nothing goes sideways in between?
Seems to make sense but In the 2010 dag world, just not sure how to go about 
it-I'd guess we'd do the same to the log files in the dag copies as well, but 
if it comes down to having to do something, I don't want to guess.

Any thoughts, reassurances, other ideas, or you're in a world of   would 
be welcome:)

Thanks,
Paul







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RE: E 2010 backup question

2010-09-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
You need to let the consistency check finish and quit worrying. Life is too 
short. :)

Remember  -- those 1TB drives are SLOW to start with and you are contending 
with normal Exchange activity as well as the consistency check. With a 1TB 
drive, and only 197+218=415 GB in use - you probably don't need to worry about 
disk space either.

Once that is done, if you want to turn on circular logging, go for it.

Oh, and get a better backup product.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 AM
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Subject: E 2010 backup question


Exchange 2010
Two sites
Two mbx/HT servers in each site
Three DB's per server
Three way DAG,  one copy go to the other server in the site and a copy to a 
server in the other site.  No lag copies.
Single 1 tb volume holds its own DB/logs. For example, L: has a 197gb database 
and 218gb logs (we're smack in the middle of 2003 to 2010 migration)


So, a well-known 3rd party backup tells us they can't back up if there are more 
than 15-20gb of log files per volume (to be addressed soon)


I'm running a native MS backup that's been doing the consistency check for 
going on 14 hours; I know it can take a long time and I'm not quite at the 
point of worrying about that- yet.  But between worrying about not having a 
backup and running out of disk space

In theory,  could we enable circular logging, stop services, move logs, start 
services, do backup all the while hoping nothing goes sideways in between?
Seems to make sense but In the 2010 dag world, just not sure how to go about 
it-I'd guess we'd do the same to the log files in the dag copies as well, but 
if it comes down to having to do something, I don't want to guess.

Any thoughts, reassurances, other ideas, or you're in a world of   would 
be welcome:)

Thanks,
Paul








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RE: E 2010 backup question

2010-09-01 Thread PRamatowski

Agree on the last thing but I have no hand.
/Kostanza

Thanks Michael, appreciate your help!


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E 2010 backup question

You need to let the consistency check finish and quit worrying. Life is too 
short. :)

Remember  -- those 1TB drives are SLOW to start with and you are contending 
with normal Exchange activity as well as the consistency check. With a 1TB 
drive, and only 197+218=415 GB in use - you probably don't need to worry about 
disk space either.

Once that is done, if you want to turn on circular logging, go for it.

Oh, and get a better backup product.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: E 2010 backup question


Exchange 2010
Two sites
Two mbx/HT servers in each site
Three DB's per server
Three way DAG,  one copy go to the other server in the site and a copy to a 
server in the other site.  No lag copies.
Single 1 tb volume holds its own DB/logs. For example, L: has a 197gb database 
and 218gb logs (we're smack in the middle of 2003 to 2010 migration)


So, a well-known 3rd party backup tells us they can't back up if there are more 
than 15-20gb of log files per volume (to be addressed soon)


I'm running a native MS backup that's been doing the consistency check for 
going on 14 hours; I know it can take a long time and I'm not quite at the 
point of worrying about that- yet.  But between worrying about not having a 
backup and running out of disk space

In theory,  could we enable circular logging, stop services, move logs, start 
services, do backup all the while hoping nothing goes sideways in between?
Seems to make sense but In the 2010 dag world, just not sure how to go about 
it-I'd guess we'd do the same to the log files in the dag copies as well, but 
if it comes down to having to do something, I don't want to guess.

Any thoughts, reassurances, other ideas, or you're in a world of   would 
be welcome:)

Thanks,
Paul








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Backup Question

2002-01-04 Thread Cris Vitsorek

I know there is a lot of discussion on what to use to backup your Exchange
server - this question is much more basic - I'm just curious what the
experts backup and how often.  Currently, we are doing a full backup every
night using ntbackup.  The operations department is doing a backup of the
store and directory but they are also doing a backup of each drive c:; d:
; e:; f:;

This means they get a lot of can't backup open files.  So I'm wondering
besides the store and directory what else should be backed up.  For
example do I need to backup the \exchsrvr\mtadata directory?

Thanks for any pointers.

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RE: Backup Question

2002-01-04 Thread Neil Hobson

I always do full nightly backups.  Exclude the \exchsrvr\*data
directories (like mdbdata, mtadata, etc)

Backing up the \exchsrvr directory in general depends.  For example,
it's not difficult to get back a single exe file if someone deletes it,
but then again if someone whacks the tracking log files it can be a
pain.

You didn't state, but if this is Exchange 2000, then make sure you don't
backup drive M: !

Neil

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Posted At: 04 January 2002 13:40
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Subject: Backup Question


I know there is a lot of discussion on what to use to backup your
Exchange server - this question is much more basic - I'm just curious
what the experts backup and how often.  Currently, we are doing a full
backup every night using ntbackup.  The operations department is doing a
backup of the store and directory but they are also doing a backup of
each drive c:; d: ; e:; f:;

This means they get a lot of can't backup open files.  So I'm wondering
besides the store and directory what else should be backed up.  For
example do I need to backup the \exchsrvr\mtadata directory?

Thanks for any pointers.

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