RE: Bulk mail services?

2009-01-02 Thread Eric Wittersheim
Ben,

In a nutshell that is what their tech support said.  

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Bulk mail services?

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Eric Wittersheim
ewittersh...@aasmnet.org wrote:
 It is not sending the email.  The errors happen when you are editing
your
 messages/emails.

  It sounds like CC is tracking web user sessions by IP address, at
least in part.  Since you're all going through the same proxy server,
you all appear to have the same IP address to them.

  This is bad web programming, of course.  They should be using a
cookie, or HTTP form fields, or something else to track state.  But
bad web programming is the rule, not the exception.

  You might be able to work around their defects by using multiple
public IP addresses and doing something to make sure that each session
comes from a different IP address.

  Myself, I'd just tell them they either fix their software or you
take your business elsewhere.  There's lots of competition in this
market; don't reward bad service with repeat business.

-- Ben

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Bulk mail services?

2008-12-31 Thread Moss, Sue
Hello and Happy New Year!
 
I'm looking for any feedback anyone has on bulk email services they have
used.  I'm googling for candidates, but it'd be nice to narrow the
playing field a bit with real life experiences.  Anyone?
 
TIA

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RE: Bulk mail services?

2008-12-31 Thread Eric Wittersheim
Constant Contact

 

From: Moss, Sue [mailto:sm...@cas.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:14 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Bulk mail services?

 

Hello and Happy New Year!

 

I'm looking for any feedback anyone has on bulk email services they have
used.  I'm googling for candidates, but it'd be nice to narrow the
playing field a bit with real life experiences.  Anyone?

 

TIA

 

 


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RE: Bulk mail services?

2008-12-31 Thread Roger Wright
Constant Contact usually gets the highest vote count when this question
is asked.

 

Our company chose to go with Exact Target and has been satisfied.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Moss, Sue [mailto:sm...@cas.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Bulk mail services?

 

Hello and Happy New Year!

 

I'm looking for any feedback anyone has on bulk email services they have
used.  I'm googling for candidates, but it'd be nice to narrow the
playing field a bit with real life experiences.  Anyone?

 

TIA

 

 


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RE: Bulk mail services?

2008-12-31 Thread Eric Wittersheim
A little side note about constant contact.  We use ISA 2004 as our proxy
here and we can only have one person logged into CC at a time (even with
separate CC accounts).  The session somehow gets screwed up and one
persons session will log out the other persons session.  I have spoke to
CC and they claim there is not a work around for this.  I personally
think that is crap but what do I know.  We have 4 separate CC accounts
and each person has to schedule a time slot to work with CC.  Pain in
the butt.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:56 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Bulk mail services?

 

Constant Contact usually gets the highest vote count when this question
is asked.

 

Our company chose to go with Exact Target and has been satisfied.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Moss, Sue [mailto:sm...@cas.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Bulk mail services?

 

Hello and Happy New Year!

 

I'm looking for any feedback anyone has on bulk email services they have
used.  I'm googling for candidates, but it'd be nice to narrow the
playing field a bit with real life experiences.  Anyone?

 

TIA

 

 

 

 


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RE: Bulk mail services?

2008-12-31 Thread William Lefkovics
ListServ Maestro by L-soft.

http://www.lsoft.com/products/maestro.asp

 

Depending on what 'services' you are looking for.

 

From: Moss, Sue [mailto:sm...@cas.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Bulk mail services?

 

Hello and Happy New Year!

 

I'm looking for any feedback anyone has on bulk email services they have
used.  I'm googling for candidates, but it'd be nice to narrow the playing
field a bit with real life experiences.  Anyone?

 

TIA

 

 


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Re: Bulk mail services?

2008-12-31 Thread Durf
I doubt this is CC's fault.  If they allow you to send directly to their
SMTP servers, ISA is probably taking too long to drop the connection.
--Durf

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Eric Wittersheim
ewittersh...@aasmnet.orgwrote:

  A little side note about constant contact.  We use ISA 2004 as our proxy
 here and we can only have one person logged into CC at a time (even with
 separate CC accounts).  The session somehow gets screwed up and one persons
 session will log out the other persons session.  I have spoke to CC and they
 claim there is not a work around for this.  I personally think that is crap
 but what do I know.  We have 4 separate CC accounts and each person has to
 schedule a time slot to work with CC.  Pain in the butt.



 *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:56 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Bulk mail services?



 Constant Contact usually gets the highest vote count when this question is
 asked.



 Our company chose to go with Exact Target and has been satisfied.







 Roger Wright

 Network Administrator

 Evatone, Inc.

 727.572.7076  x388

 _



 *From:* Moss, Sue [mailto:sm...@cas.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:14 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Bulk mail services?



 Hello and Happy New Year!



 I'm looking for any feedback anyone has on bulk email services they have
 used.  I'm googling for candidates, but it'd be nice to narrow the playing
 field a bit with real life experiences.  Anyone?



 TIA














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Re: Bulk mail services?

2008-12-31 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Eric Wittersheim
ewittersh...@aasmnet.org wrote:
 It is not sending the email.  The errors happen when you are editing your
 messages/emails.

  It sounds like CC is tracking web user sessions by IP address, at
least in part.  Since you're all going through the same proxy server,
you all appear to have the same IP address to them.

  This is bad web programming, of course.  They should be using a
cookie, or HTTP form fields, or something else to track state.  But
bad web programming is the rule, not the exception.

  You might be able to work around their defects by using multiple
public IP addresses and doing something to make sure that each session
comes from a different IP address.

  Myself, I'd just tell them they either fix their software or you
take your business elsewhere.  There's lots of competition in this
market; don't reward bad service with repeat business.

-- Ben

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