RE: Can someone settle this....(part 2)
Title: Message Tell your colleague he may want to join the list - he might learn something. I know i did (still am). -Original Message-From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 May 2002 15:07To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Can someone settle this(part 2) You are correct. - Original Message - From: Garland Mac Neill To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: RE: Can someone settle this(part 2) Ok, that makes lots of sense Now the argument has moved to synchriozation. Like when does it occur. The example being that you open Outlook, you receive an attachment, you open attachmentwhere are you opening it from? I say the server because Outlook does not Synch until you either tell it to or close out, saying you have the switch turned on Am I wrong? -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:36 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle this Taken right from the outlook 2002 white paper:Cancelable Server RequestOutlook has a new dialog box that shows the user when Outlook is waiting on a response from the Microsoft Exchange Server or Active Directory Global Catalog server. This dialog has a Cancel request button so users can cancel the request and continue to use Outlook.Users who do not want the dialog box to be displayed on screen can use the check box to minimize it. This dialog does not necessarily indicate a problem condition - just that the server has failed to respond to a request by Outlook in a specified amount of time.Change the Timeout of the Cancelable RPC DialogIf the Cancelable RPC dialog appears too often on a slow link and interferes with the user's ability to work, change the default timeout value so that the dialog does not appear as often. Changing the amount of time until the server communication times out is done by altering the Exchange Server Settings. Exchange Server Settings are altered in the same way described in the Choose the Connection Type at Start Up section.Microsoft tried to remove as many RPC's as they could to increase performance of the application.They couldn't actually remove them, so they changed it so the RPC's only show up when called upon.. On slow links you see this message box more.-Original Message-From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:27 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle thisYea, the popup box is just an interface for a highly complex backend thatsifts through bad RPCs ;)-Original Message-From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Can someone settle thisWhat?It's not a "cheat". It's an informational message. And RPC's are most certainly not "removed".- Original Message -From: MHR(Michael Ross)To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:17 PMSubject: RE: Can someone settle thisActually Ill tell ya what is goin on.That status bar is new to XP.That status bar was MS' way of removing RPC's that slow the client down.If you were using Outlook XP on your lan, and your lan was slow, or were on a 10 MB switched environment, you would see that bar come up again. Its a cheat on MS' side to try and speed up your client. -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:08 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Can someone settle thisExchange 5.5 SP4 on NT4 SP6Outlook XP and Outlook 2000.My coworker and I are trying to determine how Outlook really works. We have noticed that when we are dialed up on our laptops and connected to our network via an IPSEC VPN connection (same with PPTP), when we connect to Exchange via Outlook XP there are times we get a message that it is requesting information from the server and has a status bar. Under Outlook 2000 there was no information box like that.My argument is that under XP, it is telling you that is requesting information and this is normal operation, given that it's working on a dialup. I should clarify, that we get this box when we are trying to open email or change folders. He says this is some kind of error that needs to be resolved.Can some one shed some light on this. If you need more information please let me know.Garland Mac NeillSystems AdministratorSolbourne[EM
Re: Can someone settle this....(part 2)
Title: Message You are correct. - Original Message - From: Garland Mac Neill To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: RE: Can someone settle this(part 2) Ok, that makes lots of sense Now the argument has moved to synchriozation. Like when does it occur. The example being that you open Outlook, you receive an attachment, you open attachmentwhere are you opening it from? I say the server because Outlook does not Synch until you either tell it to or close out, saying you have the switch turned on Am I wrong? -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:36 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle this Taken right from the outlook 2002 white paper:Cancelable Server RequestOutlook has a new dialog box that shows the user when Outlook is waiting on a response from the Microsoft Exchange Server or Active Directory Global Catalog server. This dialog has a Cancel request button so users can cancel the request and continue to use Outlook.Users who do not want the dialog box to be displayed on screen can use the check box to minimize it. This dialog does not necessarily indicate a problem condition - just that the server has failed to respond to a request by Outlook in a specified amount of time.Change the Timeout of the Cancelable RPC DialogIf the Cancelable RPC dialog appears too often on a slow link and interferes with the user's ability to work, change the default timeout value so that the dialog does not appear as often. Changing the amount of time until the server communication times out is done by altering the Exchange Server Settings. Exchange Server Settings are altered in the same way described in the Choose the Connection Type at Start Up section.Microsoft tried to remove as many RPC's as they could to increase performance of the application.They couldn't actually remove them, so they changed it so the RPC's only show up when called upon.. On slow links you see this message box more.-Original Message-From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:27 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle thisYea, the popup box is just an interface for a highly complex backend thatsifts through bad RPCs ;)-Original Message-From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Can someone settle thisWhat?It's not a "cheat". It's an informational message. And RPC's are most certainly not "removed".- Original Message -From: MHR(Michael Ross)To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:17 PMSubject: RE: Can someone settle thisActually Ill tell ya what is goin on.That status bar is new to XP.That status bar was MS' way of removing RPC's that slow the client down.If you were using Outlook XP on your lan, and your lan was slow, or were on a 10 MB switched environment, you would see that bar come up again. Its a cheat on MS' side to try and speed up your client. -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:08 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Can someone settle thisExchange 5.5 SP4 on NT4 SP6Outlook XP and Outlook 2000.My coworker and I are trying to determine how Outlook really works. We have noticed that when we are dialed up on our laptops and connected to our network via an IPSEC VPN connection (same with PPTP), when we connect to Exchange via Outlook XP there are times we get a message that it is requesting information from the server and has a status bar. Under Outlook 2000 there was no information box like that.My argument is that under XP, it is telling you that is requesting information and this is normal operation, given that it's working on a dialup. I should clarify, that we get this box when we are trying to open email or change folders. He says this is some kind of error that needs to be resolved.Can some one shed some light on this. If you need more information please let me know.Garland Mac NeillSystems AdministratorSolbourne[EMAIL PROTECTED]List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or e
RE: Can someone settle this....(part 2)
Title: Message Server if Online and mail is not being routed to a PST. OST if Offline and Synching to the server through remote mail. Can I pass the beer offer along to a friend with family in that area :) -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 13:46To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle this(part 2) Ok, that makes lots of sense Now the argument has moved to synchriozation. Like when does it occur. The example being that you open Outlook, you receive an attachment, you open attachmentwhere are you opening it from? I say the server because Outlook does not Synch until you either tell it to or close out, saying you have the switch turned on Am I wrong? -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:36 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle this Taken right from the outlook 2002 white paper:Cancelable Server RequestOutlook has a new dialog box that shows the user when Outlook is waiting on a response from the Microsoft Exchange Server or Active Directory Global Catalog server. This dialog has a Cancel request button so users can cancel the request and continue to use Outlook.Users who do not want the dialog box to be displayed on screen can use the check box to minimize it. This dialog does not necessarily indicate a problem condition - just that the server has failed to respond to a request by Outlook in a specified amount of time.Change the Timeout of the Cancelable RPC DialogIf the Cancelable RPC dialog appears too often on a slow link and interferes with the user's ability to work, change the default timeout value so that the dialog does not appear as often. Changing the amount of time until the server communication times out is done by altering the Exchange Server Settings. Exchange Server Settings are altered in the same way described in the Choose the Connection Type at Start Up section.Microsoft tried to remove as many RPC's as they could to increase performance of the application.They couldn't actually remove them, so they changed it so the RPC's only show up when called upon.. On slow links you see this message box more.-Original Message-From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:27 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle thisYea, the popup box is just an interface for a highly complex backend thatsifts through bad RPCs ;)-Original Message-From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Can someone settle thisWhat?It's not a "cheat". It's an informational message. And RPC's are most certainly not "removed".- Original Message -From: MHR(Michael Ross)To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:17 PMSubject: RE: Can someone settle thisActually Ill tell ya what is goin on.That status bar is new to XP.That status bar was MS' way of removing RPC's that slow the client down.If you were using Outlook XP on your lan, and your lan was slow, or were on a 10 MB switched environment, you would see that bar come up again. Its a cheat on MS' side to try and speed up your client. -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:08 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Can someone settle thisExchange 5.5 SP4 on NT4 SP6Outlook XP and Outlook 2000.My coworker and I are trying to determine how Outlook really works. We have noticed that when we are dialed up on our laptops and connected to our network via an IPSEC VPN connection (same with PPTP), when we connect to Exchange via Outlook XP there are times we get a message that it is requesting information from the server and has a status bar. Under Outlook 2000 there was no information box like that.My argument is that under XP, it is telling you that is requesting information and this is normal operation, given that it's working on a dialup. I should clarify, that we get this box when we are trying to open email or change folders. He says this is some kind of error that needs to be resolved.Can some one shed some light on this. If you need more information please let me know.Garland Mac NeillSystems AdministratorSolbourne[EMAIL PROTECTED]List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm---
RE: Can someone settle this....(part 2)
Title: Message Yeah sure And beer too. I'll expense iti'm in Boulder:) -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can someone settle this....(part 2) all your emails are on the server, unless you deliver them to a pst file that is local. you gonna buy us lunch for helping you to win? -Original Message- From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can someone settle this....(part 2) Ok, that makes lots of sense Now the argument has moved to synchriozation. Like when does it occur. The example being that you open Outlook, you receive an attachment, you open attachmentwhere are you opening it from? I say the server because Outlook does not Synch until you either tell it to or close out, saying you have the switch turned on Am I wrong? -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can someone settle this Taken right from the outlook 2002 white paper: Cancelable Server Request Outlook has a new dialog box that shows the user when Outlook is waiting on a response from the Microsoft Exchange Server or Active Directory Global Catalog server. This dialog has a Cancel request button so users can cancel the request and continue to use Outlook. Users who do not want the dialog box to be displayed on screen can use the check box to minimize it. This dialog does not necessarily indicate a problem condition - just that the server has failed to respond to a request by Outlook in a specified amount of time. Change the Timeout of the Cancelable RPC Dialog If the Cancelable RPC dialog appears too often on a slow link and interferes with the user's ability to work, change the default timeout value so that the dialog does not appear as often. Changing the amount of time until the server communication times out is done by altering the Exchange Server Settings. Exchange Server Settings are altered in the same way described in the Choose the Connection Type at Start Up section. Microsoft tried to remove as many RPC's as they could to increase performance of the application. They couldn't actually remove them, so they changed it so the RPC's only show up when called upon.. On slow links you see this message box more. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can someone settle this Yea, the popup box is just an interface for a highly complex backend that sifts through bad RPCs ;) -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can someone settle this What? It's not a "cheat". It's an informational message. And RPC's are most certainly not "removed". - Original Message - From: MHR(Michael Ross) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: RE: Can someone settle this Actually Ill tell ya what is goin on. That status bar is new to XP. That status bar was MS' way of removing RPC's that slow the client down. If you were using Outlook XP on your lan, and your lan was slow, or were on a 10 MB switched environment, you would see that bar come up again. Its a cheat on MS' side to try and speed up your client. -Original Message- From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can someone settle this Exchange 5.5 SP4 on NT4 SP6 Outlook XP and Outlook 2000. My coworker and I are trying to determine how Outlook really works. We have noticed that when we are dialed up on our laptops and connected to our network via an IPSEC VPN connection (same with PPTP), when we connect to Exchange via Outlook XP there are times we get a message that it is requesting information from the server and has a status bar. Under Outlook 2000 there was no information box like that. My argument is that under XP, it is telling you that is requesting information and this is normal operation, given that it's working on a dialup. I should clarify, that we get this box when we are trying to open email or change folders. He says this is some kind of error that needs to be resolved. Can some one shed some light on this. If you need more information please let me know. Garland Mac Neill Systems Administrator Solbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.ht
RE: Can someone settle this....(part 2)
Title: Message all your emails are on the server, unless you deliver them to a pst file that is local. you gonna buy us lunch for helping you to win? -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:46 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle this(part 2) Ok, that makes lots of sense Now the argument has moved to synchriozation. Like when does it occur. The example being that you open Outlook, you receive an attachment, you open attachmentwhere are you opening it from? I say the server because Outlook does not Synch until you either tell it to or close out, saying you have the switch turned on Am I wrong? -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:36 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle this Taken right from the outlook 2002 white paper:Cancelable Server RequestOutlook has a new dialog box that shows the user when Outlook is waiting on a response from the Microsoft Exchange Server or Active Directory Global Catalog server. This dialog has a Cancel request button so users can cancel the request and continue to use Outlook.Users who do not want the dialog box to be displayed on screen can use the check box to minimize it. This dialog does not necessarily indicate a problem condition - just that the server has failed to respond to a request by Outlook in a specified amount of time.Change the Timeout of the Cancelable RPC DialogIf the Cancelable RPC dialog appears too often on a slow link and interferes with the user's ability to work, change the default timeout value so that the dialog does not appear as often. Changing the amount of time until the server communication times out is done by altering the Exchange Server Settings. Exchange Server Settings are altered in the same way described in the Choose the Connection Type at Start Up section.Microsoft tried to remove as many RPC's as they could to increase performance of the application.They couldn't actually remove them, so they changed it so the RPC's only show up when called upon.. On slow links you see this message box more.-Original Message-From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:27 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Can someone settle thisYea, the popup box is just an interface for a highly complex backend thatsifts through bad RPCs ;)-Original Message-From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Can someone settle thisWhat?It's not a "cheat". It's an informational message. And RPC's are most certainly not "removed".- Original Message -From: MHR(Michael Ross)To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:17 PMSubject: RE: Can someone settle thisActually Ill tell ya what is goin on.That status bar is new to XP.That status bar was MS' way of removing RPC's that slow the client down.If you were using Outlook XP on your lan, and your lan was slow, or were on a 10 MB switched environment, you would see that bar come up again. Its a cheat on MS' side to try and speed up your client. -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:08 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Can someone settle thisExchange 5.5 SP4 on NT4 SP6Outlook XP and Outlook 2000.My coworker and I are trying to determine how Outlook really works. We have noticed that when we are dialed up on our laptops and connected to our network via an IPSEC VPN connection (same with PPTP), when we connect to Exchange via Outlook XP there are times we get a message that it is requesting information from the server and has a status bar. Under Outlook 2000 there was no information box like that.My argument is that under XP, it is telling you that is requesting information and this is normal operation, given that it's working on a dialup. I should clarify, that we get this box when we are trying to open email or change folders. He says this is some kind of error that needs to be resolved.Can some one shed some light on this. If you need more information please let me know.Garland Mac NeillSystems AdministratorSolbourne[EMAIL PROTECTED]List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The
RE: Can someone settle this....(part 2)
Title: Message Ok, that makes lots of sense Now the argument has moved to synchriozation. Like when does it occur. The example being that you open Outlook, you receive an attachment, you open attachmentwhere are you opening it from? I say the server because Outlook does not Synch until you either tell it to or close out, saying you have the switch turned on Am I wrong? -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can someone settle this Taken right from the outlook 2002 white paper: Cancelable Server Request Outlook has a new dialog box that shows the user when Outlook is waiting on a response from the Microsoft Exchange Server or Active Directory Global Catalog server. This dialog has a Cancel request button so users can cancel the request and continue to use Outlook. Users who do not want the dialog box to be displayed on screen can use the check box to minimize it. This dialog does not necessarily indicate a problem condition - just that the server has failed to respond to a request by Outlook in a specified amount of time. Change the Timeout of the Cancelable RPC Dialog If the Cancelable RPC dialog appears too often on a slow link and interferes with the user's ability to work, change the default timeout value so that the dialog does not appear as often. Changing the amount of time until the server communication times out is done by altering the Exchange Server Settings. Exchange Server Settings are altered in the same way described in the Choose the Connection Type at Start Up section. Microsoft tried to remove as many RPC's as they could to increase performance of the application. They couldn't actually remove them, so they changed it so the RPC's only show up when called upon.. On slow links you see this message box more. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can someone settle this Yea, the popup box is just an interface for a highly complex backend that sifts through bad RPCs ;) -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can someone settle this What? It's not a "cheat". It's an informational message. And RPC's are most certainly not "removed". - Original Message - From: MHR(Michael Ross) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: RE: Can someone settle this Actually Ill tell ya what is goin on. That status bar is new to XP. That status bar was MS' way of removing RPC's that slow the client down. If you were using Outlook XP on your lan, and your lan was slow, or were on a 10 MB switched environment, you would see that bar come up again. Its a cheat on MS' side to try and speed up your client. -Original Message- From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can someone settle this Exchange 5.5 SP4 on NT4 SP6 Outlook XP and Outlook 2000. My coworker and I are trying to determine how Outlook really works. We have noticed that when we are dialed up on our laptops and connected to our network via an IPSEC VPN connection (same with PPTP), when we connect to Exchange via Outlook XP there are times we get a message that it is requesting information from the server and has a status bar. Under Outlook 2000 there was no information box like that. My argument is that under XP, it is telling you that is requesting information and this is normal operation, given that it's working on a dialup. I should clarify, that we get this box when we are trying to open email or change folders. He says this is some kind of error that needs to be resolved. Can some one shed some light on this. If you need more information please let me know. Garland Mac Neill Systems Administrator Solbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. ===
