RE: Do not permanently delete option
You think correctly. Neil -Original Message- From: Chris Peden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 16:32 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Do not permanently delete option Subject: RE: Do not permanently delete option I thought the red X meant it was marked for deletion. Thanks, -Chris- IT Director Sundowner Interiors -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Do not permanently delete option Thanks--sounds like something I need to look up/read up on. Is there a already a default set schedule for when this runs/properties I can access via the GUI for it (besides just running it)? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Do not permanently delete option It's only marked with a red X once the Cleanup Agent has run against the store. You can manually force the Cleanup Agent by right-clicking the Mailboxes object under the store and choosing the Run Cleanup Agent option. Neil -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 15:20 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Do not permanently delete option Subject: Do not permanently delete option We ran into an interesting problem the other day and I'm wondering how others have configured their E2k (sp2) option of "Do not permanently delete mailboxes and items until the store has been backed up". I'm thinking of unchecking the box but am wondering what the repercussions are. We currently have set 21 days on deleted items, 30 days on deleted mailboxes, Box is checked for "do not permanently delete...", and we have limits on all mailboxes currently ranging from 20 to 100MB. The problem we had was that after a personnel shuffle (several account renames), after a few days the final leftover user account was deleted by the account operator, including home directory, roaming profile, and E2k mailbox. Within a few hours the department who'd had that user previously called up and said "we have a temporary person here and would like them to have access to the previous person's files and mailbox". Account operator comes to me :) So, we decided in this case we could create a new user account, restore the files, and reset permissions. But, I went to reconnect the E2k mailbox and although it was on the list, it did not have a red X and I did not have the option to reconnect. It had been several hours since the user deletion, but I went ahead and synchronized our DCs and updated RUS. Even after another hour there were no changes. I guessed that it was not being "permanently" deleted because the backup hadn't occurred yet. Sure enough, the next day I had the reconnect option available. I checked the MS support site, but couldn't find this as a known issue--anyone have a link? How do others have this option configured? I think with our other retentions we would be safe to turn this off. And, what safety net does this really give me if I can't recover before the backup? Thanks, Bonnie Miller List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Do not permanently delete option
I thought the red X meant it was marked for deletion. Thanks, -Chris- IT Director Sundowner Interiors -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Do not permanently delete option Thanks--sounds like something I need to look up/read up on. Is there a already a default set schedule for when this runs/properties I can access via the GUI for it (besides just running it)? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Do not permanently delete option It's only marked with a red X once the Cleanup Agent has run against the store. You can manually force the Cleanup Agent by right-clicking the Mailboxes object under the store and choosing the Run Cleanup Agent option. Neil -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 15:20 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Do not permanently delete option Subject: Do not permanently delete option We ran into an interesting problem the other day and I'm wondering how others have configured their E2k (sp2) option of "Do not permanently delete mailboxes and items until the store has been backed up". I'm thinking of unchecking the box but am wondering what the repercussions are. We currently have set 21 days on deleted items, 30 days on deleted mailboxes, Box is checked for "do not permanently delete...", and we have limits on all mailboxes currently ranging from 20 to 100MB. The problem we had was that after a personnel shuffle (several account renames), after a few days the final leftover user account was deleted by the account operator, including home directory, roaming profile, and E2k mailbox. Within a few hours the department who'd had that user previously called up and said "we have a temporary person here and would like them to have access to the previous person's files and mailbox". Account operator comes to me :) So, we decided in this case we could create a new user account, restore the files, and reset permissions. But, I went to reconnect the E2k mailbox and although it was on the list, it did not have a red X and I did not have the option to reconnect. It had been several hours since the user deletion, but I went ahead and synchronized our DCs and updated RUS. Even after another hour there were no changes. I guessed that it was not being "permanently" deleted because the backup hadn't occurred yet. Sure enough, the next day I had the reconnect option available. I checked the MS support site, but couldn't find this as a known issue--anyone have a link? How do others have this option configured? I think with our other retentions we would be safe to turn this off. And, what safety net does this really give me if I can't recover before the backup? Thanks, Bonnie Miller List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Do not permanently delete option
That's a good question! I've never actually checked. I suspect it forms part of the online maintenance, but I'm not 100% sure. I'll have a dig around (unless anyone else here knows?) Neil -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 15:49 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Do not permanently delete option Subject: RE: Do not permanently delete option Thanks--sounds like something I need to look up/read up on. Is there a already a default set schedule for when this runs/properties I can access via the GUI for it (besides just running it)? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Do not permanently delete option It's only marked with a red X once the Cleanup Agent has run against the store. You can manually force the Cleanup Agent by right-clicking the Mailboxes object under the store and choosing the Run Cleanup Agent option. Neil -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 15:20 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Do not permanently delete option Subject: Do not permanently delete option We ran into an interesting problem the other day and I'm wondering how others have configured their E2k (sp2) option of "Do not permanently delete mailboxes and items until the store has been backed up". I'm thinking of unchecking the box but am wondering what the repercussions are. We currently have set 21 days on deleted items, 30 days on deleted mailboxes, Box is checked for "do not permanently delete...", and we have limits on all mailboxes currently ranging from 20 to 100MB. The problem we had was that after a personnel shuffle (several account renames), after a few days the final leftover user account was deleted by the account operator, including home directory, roaming profile, and E2k mailbox. Within a few hours the department who'd had that user previously called up and said "we have a temporary person here and would like them to have access to the previous person's files and mailbox". Account operator comes to me :) So, we decided in this case we could create a new user account, restore the files, and reset permissions. But, I went to reconnect the E2k mailbox and although it was on the list, it did not have a red X and I did not have the option to reconnect. It had been several hours since the user deletion, but I went ahead and synchronized our DCs and updated RUS. Even after another hour there were no changes. I guessed that it was not being "permanently" deleted because the backup hadn't occurred yet. Sure enough, the next day I had the reconnect option available. I checked the MS support site, but couldn't find this as a known issue--anyone have a link? How do others have this option configured? I think with our other retentions we would be safe to turn this off. And, what safety net does this really give me if I can't recover before the backup? Thanks, Bonnie Miller List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Do not permanently delete option
Thanks--sounds like something I need to look up/read up on. Is there a already a default set schedule for when this runs/properties I can access via the GUI for it (besides just running it)? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Do not permanently delete option It's only marked with a red X once the Cleanup Agent has run against the store. You can manually force the Cleanup Agent by right-clicking the Mailboxes object under the store and choosing the Run Cleanup Agent option. Neil -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 15:20 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Do not permanently delete option Subject: Do not permanently delete option We ran into an interesting problem the other day and I'm wondering how others have configured their E2k (sp2) option of "Do not permanently delete mailboxes and items until the store has been backed up". I'm thinking of unchecking the box but am wondering what the repercussions are. We currently have set 21 days on deleted items, 30 days on deleted mailboxes, Box is checked for "do not permanently delete...", and we have limits on all mailboxes currently ranging from 20 to 100MB. The problem we had was that after a personnel shuffle (several account renames), after a few days the final leftover user account was deleted by the account operator, including home directory, roaming profile, and E2k mailbox. Within a few hours the department who'd had that user previously called up and said "we have a temporary person here and would like them to have access to the previous person's files and mailbox". Account operator comes to me :) So, we decided in this case we could create a new user account, restore the files, and reset permissions. But, I went to reconnect the E2k mailbox and although it was on the list, it did not have a red X and I did not have the option to reconnect. It had been several hours since the user deletion, but I went ahead and synchronized our DCs and updated RUS. Even after another hour there were no changes. I guessed that it was not being "permanently" deleted because the backup hadn't occurred yet. Sure enough, the next day I had the reconnect option available. I checked the MS support site, but couldn't find this as a known issue--anyone have a link? How do others have this option configured? I think with our other retentions we would be safe to turn this off. And, what safety net does this really give me if I can't recover before the backup? Thanks, Bonnie Miller List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Do not permanently delete option
It's only marked with a red X once the Cleanup Agent has run against the store. You can manually force the Cleanup Agent by right-clicking the Mailboxes object under the store and choosing the Run Cleanup Agent option. Neil -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 18 June 2002 15:20 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Do not permanently delete option Subject: Do not permanently delete option We ran into an interesting problem the other day and I'm wondering how others have configured their E2k (sp2) option of "Do not permanently delete mailboxes and items until the store has been backed up". I'm thinking of unchecking the box but am wondering what the repercussions are. We currently have set 21 days on deleted items, 30 days on deleted mailboxes, Box is checked for "do not permanently delete...", and we have limits on all mailboxes currently ranging from 20 to 100MB. The problem we had was that after a personnel shuffle (several account renames), after a few days the final leftover user account was deleted by the account operator, including home directory, roaming profile, and E2k mailbox. Within a few hours the department who'd had that user previously called up and said "we have a temporary person here and would like them to have access to the previous person's files and mailbox". Account operator comes to me :) So, we decided in this case we could create a new user account, restore the files, and reset permissions. But, I went to reconnect the E2k mailbox and although it was on the list, it did not have a red X and I did not have the option to reconnect. It had been several hours since the user deletion, but I went ahead and synchronized our DCs and updated RUS. Even after another hour there were no changes. I guessed that it was not being "permanently" deleted because the backup hadn't occurred yet. Sure enough, the next day I had the reconnect option available. I checked the MS support site, but couldn't find this as a known issue--anyone have a link? How do others have this option configured? I think with our other retentions we would be safe to turn this off. And, what safety net does this really give me if I can't recover before the backup? Thanks, Bonnie Miller List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Do not permanently delete option
We ran into an interesting problem the other day and I'm wondering how others have configured their E2k (sp2) option of "Do not permanently delete mailboxes and items until the store has been backed up". I'm thinking of unchecking the box but am wondering what the repercussions are. We currently have set 21 days on deleted items, 30 days on deleted mailboxes, Box is checked for "do not permanently delete...", and we have limits on all mailboxes currently ranging from 20 to 100MB. The problem we had was that after a personnel shuffle (several account renames), after a few days the final leftover user account was deleted by the account operator, including home directory, roaming profile, and E2k mailbox. Within a few hours the department who'd had that user previously called up and said "we have a temporary person here and would like them to have access to the previous person's files and mailbox". Account operator comes to me :) So, we decided in this case we could create a new user account, restore the files, and reset permissions. But, I went to reconnect the E2k mailbox and although it was on the list, it did not have a red X and I did not have the option to reconnect. It had been several hours since the user deletion, but I went ahead and synchronized our DCs and updated RUS. Even after another hour there were no changes. I guessed that it was not being "permanently" deleted because the backup hadn't occurred yet. Sure enough, the next day I had the reconnect option available. I checked the MS support site, but couldn't find this as a known issue--anyone have a link? How do others have this option configured? I think with our other retentions we would be safe to turn this off. And, what safety net does this really give me if I can't recover before the backup? Thanks, Bonnie Miller List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
