RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-22 Thread Bob t. Berge

Hmmm i guess i misunderstood ;)

Failing the #1 test is bad indeed, unfortunatly i don't have any
experience on using IIS SMTP to help you solve this issue.

It's weird that all mail is from hotmail accounts tho, is someone from
the inside doing this?
Is it possible for you to post the headers of one of those e-mails here?

Bob ten Berge
deVisie automatiseringsdiensten


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 21 november 2001 17:20
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need 
 help stopping
 this
 
 
 Hey Bob, thanks for the reply!
 
 www.abuse.net told me I failed on TEST #1.  I should also mention, the
 messages getting loaded into the queue are not destined for 
 my domain nor
 originating from my domain.  The are usually from hotmail.com 
 accounts to
 various other domains (but not my domain whitnall.com) and 
 contain porn
 links.  So I think it is a relay issue.
 
 They are not ALL originating from the exact same email 
 address, but they
 are all hotmail.com accounts.
 
 
  Again, as far as i see it, it is tons of _incoming_ mail... this,
  ofcourse, is not relaying, you're just being fscked by some 
 brainless
  *sshole.
  
  Tell me, at what point is your mailserver allowing relaying 
 according to
  abuse.net?
  I'll bet it's just the last one, if this is the case than you should
  stop worrying about being (ab)used for relaying, instead worry about
  someone mailbombing you.
  
  Also, you should be able to see where those e-mails are 
 coming from. Are
  they all from the same host/mailserver?
  
  
  Bob ten Berge
  deVisie automatiseringsdiensten
  
  
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   Van: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Verzonden: woensdag 21 november 2001 16:09
   Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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   =20
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
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 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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this
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My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Jesse Rink

Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not infected by
the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative security
bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.

The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it
because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T allow
me to relay.  The following shows up:

220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov 2001
08:16:19
 -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
220 ESMTP spoken here 

At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other commands,
and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no response.

If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on the
LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and use it as a
relay without problem.

What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me out
here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) Exchange server
is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm worried that our domain
will start getting banned or black listed (I heard this happens) because
we are being used as a relay point.  This is the 2nd day it's been
occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.

If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.

Jesse Rink
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Kevin Miller

How do you know you are being used as a relay?

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this


Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not infected by
the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative security
bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.

The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it
because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T
allow me to relay.  The following shows up:

220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov 2001
08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
220 ESMTP spoken here 

At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other commands,
and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no response.

If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on the
LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and use it as
a relay without problem.

What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me out
here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) Exchange
server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm worried that our
domain will start getting banned or black listed (I heard this happens)
because we are being used as a relay point.  This is the 2nd day it's
been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.

If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.

Jesse Rink
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Jesse Rink

3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)

1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of
yesterday.
2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory is constantly
around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not my domain (some
dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site).
3. I went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and the
results showed that my server could be used as a relay.

:) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in IIS
SMTP now.. Thanks!


 How do you know you are being used as a relay?
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this
 
 
 Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not infected by
 the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative security
 bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.
 
 The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it
 because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T
 allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
 
 220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov 2001
 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
 220 ESMTP spoken here 
 
 At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other commands,
 and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no response.
 
 If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on the
 LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and use it as
 a relay without problem.
 
 What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me out
 here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) Exchange
 server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm worried that our
 domain will start getting banned or black listed (I heard this happens)
 because we are being used as a relay point.  This is the 2nd day it's
 been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
 
 If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
 
 Jesse Rink
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Bob t. Berge

I think he _wants_ to be used as a relay ;)
Cuz as far as i can tell, relaying is _not_ allowed on his server (I
tried it myself).



Bob ten Berge
deVisie automatiseringsdiensten


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 21 november 2001 15:41
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need 
 help stopping
 this
 
 
 How do you know you are being used as a relay?
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help 
 stopping this
 
 
 Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not 
 infected by
 the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative security
 bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.
 
 The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it
 because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T
 allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
 
 220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 
 21 Nov 2001
 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
 220 ESMTP spoken here 
 
 At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or 
 other commands,
 and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no response.
 
 If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC 
 here on the
 LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and 
 use it as
 a relay without problem.
 
 What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to 
 help me out
 here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) Exchange
 server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
 worried that our
 domain will start getting banned or black listed (I heard 
 this happens)
 because we are being used as a relay point.  This is the 2nd day it's
 been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
 
 If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
 
 Jesse Rink
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Kevin Miller

There was this one time at band, I thought I was a relay and I was not.
It was really funny

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
this


I think he _wants_ to be used as a relay ;)
Cuz as far as i can tell, relaying is _not_ allowed on his server (I
tried it myself).



Bob ten Berge
deVisie automatiseringsdiensten


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 21 november 2001 15:41
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need
 help stopping
 this
 
 
 How do you know you are being used as a relay?
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help 
 stopping this
 
 
 Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not
 infected by
 the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative security
 bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.
 
 The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it 
 because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T 
 allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
 
 220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed,
 21 Nov 2001
 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
 220 ESMTP spoken here 
 
 At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or
 other commands,
 and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no response.
 
 If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC
 here on the
 LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and 
 use it as
 a relay without problem.
 
 What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to
 help me out
 here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) Exchange
 server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
 worried that our
 domain will start getting banned or black listed (I heard 
 this happens)
 because we are being used as a relay point.  This is the 2nd day it's
 been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
 
 If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
 
 Jesse Rink
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 

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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Kevin Miller

Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... :  

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
this


3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)

1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of
yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory
is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not my
domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site). 3. I
went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and the
results showed that my server could be used as a relay.

:) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in
IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!


 How do you know you are being used as a relay?
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
this
 
 
 Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not infected 
 by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative 
 security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.
 
 The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it 
 because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T 
 allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
 
 220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov 
 2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
 220 ESMTP spoken here 
 
 At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other 
 commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
 response.
 
 If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on 
 the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and use 
 it as a relay without problem.
 
 What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me 
 out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
 Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
 worried that our domain will start getting banned or black listed (I 
 heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay point.  This 
 is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
 
 If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
 
 Jesse Rink
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Jesse Rink

Heh, yeah... I guess so.  Anyway, if you can lend a hand, please let me
know.  This is very frustrating.  My queue is getting TONS of messages per
minute from these spammers and I need to get it fixed as it's using up to
about 30% of our incoming T1 bandwidth.

 Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... :  
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
 
 
 3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)
 
 1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of
 yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory
 is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not my
 domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site). 3. I
 went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and the
 results showed that my server could be used as a relay.
 
 :) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in
 IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!
 
 
  How do you know you are being used as a relay?
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
  
  
  Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not infected
  by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative 
  security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.
  
  The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it
  because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T 
  allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
  
  220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov 
  2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
  220 ESMTP spoken here 
  
  At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other 
  commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
  response.
  
  If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on 
  the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and use
  it as a relay without problem.
  
  What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me 
  out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
  Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
  worried that our domain will start getting banned or black listed (I 
  heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay point.  This
  is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
  
  If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
  
  Jesse Rink
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping thi s

2001-11-21 Thread Doug Eubank

When was the last time you deleted the all of the emails in the queue
directory, to see how many you are actually getting a day? Do you actually
get 1500 new emails in the queue a day? Are the address that the spammer is
sending to, internal addresses of your users, or external ones, or both?

If the messages are in the queue directory, doesn't that may mean that they
are being caught there and not being relayed? In which case you can edit the
registry to limit the number of messages that the queue can hold (Q258748).
This may also help your processor utilization, because it will quit trying
to send these caught emails.

Just ideas to look into.

Doug

-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:09 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
this


Heh, yeah... I guess so.  Anyway, if you can lend a hand, please let me
know.  This is very frustrating.  My queue is getting TONS of messages per
minute from these spammers and I need to get it fixed as it's using up to
about 30% of our incoming T1 bandwidth.

 Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... :  
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
 
 
 3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)
 
 1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of
 yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory
 is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not my
 domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site). 3. I
 went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and the
 results showed that my server could be used as a relay.
 
 :) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in
 IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!
 
 
  How do you know you are being used as a relay?
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
  
  
  Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not infected
  by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative 
  security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.
  
  The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it
  because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T 
  allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
  
  220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov 
  2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
  220 ESMTP spoken here 
  
  At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other 
  commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
  response.
  
  If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on 
  the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and use
  it as a relay without problem.
  
  What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me 
  out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
  Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
  worried that our domain will start getting banned or black listed (I 
  heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay point.  This
  is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
  
  If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
  
  Jesse Rink
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Bob t. Berge

Again, as far as i see it, it is tons of _incoming_ mail... this,
ofcourse, is not relaying, you're just being fscked by some brainless
*sshole.

Tell me, at what point is your mailserver allowing relaying according to
abuse.net?
I'll bet it's just the last one, if this is the case than you should
stop worrying about being (ab)used for relaying, instead worry about
someone mailbombing you.

Also, you should be able to see where those e-mails are coming from. Are
they all from the same host/mailserver?


Bob ten Berge
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 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 21 november 2001 16:09
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need 
 help stopping
 this
 
 
 Heh, yeah... I guess so.  Anyway, if you can lend a hand, 
 please let me
 know.  This is very frustrating.  My queue is getting TONS of 
 messages per
 minute from these spammers and I need to get it fixed as it's 
 using up to
 about 30% of our incoming T1 bandwidth.
 
  Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... :  
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need 
 help stopping
  this
  
  
  3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)
  
  1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 
 40x as of
  yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay 
 /queue directory
  is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain 
 that is not my
  domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn 
 site). 3. I
  went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and the
  results showed that my server could be used as a relay.
  
  :) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what 
 to change in
  IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!
  
  
   How do you know you are being used as a relay?
   
   Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
  this
   
   
   Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was 
 not infected
   by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative 
   security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.
   
   The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they 
 are doing it
   because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, 
 it DOESN'T 
   allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
   
   220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at 
 Wed, 21 Nov 
   2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
   220 ESMTP spoken here 
   
   At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other 
   commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
   response.
   
   If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a 
 PC here on 
   the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other 
 commands and use
   it as a relay without problem.
   
   What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services 
 to help me 
   out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
   Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
   worried that our domain will start getting banned or 
 black listed (I 
   heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay 
 point.  This
   is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this 
 fixed soon.
   
   If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
   
   Jesse Rink
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Kevin Miller

Block the IP at the router... 

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:09 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
this


Heh, yeah... I guess so.  Anyway, if you can lend a hand, please let me
know.  This is very frustrating.  My queue is getting TONS of messages
per minute from these spammers and I need to get it fixed as it's using
up to about 30% of our incoming T1 bandwidth.

 Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... : 
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
 
 
 3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)
 
 1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of 
 yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory

 is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not 
 my domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site). 
 3. I went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and 
 the results showed that my server could be used as a relay.
 
 :) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in

 IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!
 
 
  How do you know you are being used as a relay?
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
  
  
  Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not 
  infected by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS 
  cumulative security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay 
  point.
  
  The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing 
  it because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it 
  DOESN'T allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
  
  220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov
  2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
  220 ESMTP spoken here 
  
  At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other
  commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
  response.
  
  If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on
  the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and
use
  it as a relay without problem.
  
  What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me
  out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
  Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
  worried that our domain will start getting banned or black listed (I

  heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay point.
This
  is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
  
  If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
  
  Jesse Rink
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping thi---s

2001-11-21 Thread Jesse Rink

Actually, I'm getting more than 1500 per day left in the queue.  Most
eventually make it out and more new ones come into the queue.  So it's
like a revolving door.

The addresses the spammer is sending to are all outside addresses.  I have
not seen one sent to whitnall.com yet.  They all go to some other domain.

As for limiting messages in the queue, good idea... but it still doesn't
resolve the problem of the relay.  It does however help my performance so
thanks for the tip. :)


  

 When was the last time you deleted the all of the emails in the queue
 directory, to see how many you are actually getting a day? Do you actually
 get 1500 new emails in the queue a day? Are the address that the spammer is
 sending to, internal addresses of your users, or external ones, or both?
 
 If the messages are in the queue directory, doesn't that may mean that they
 are being caught there and not being relayed? In which case you can edit the
 registry to limit the number of messages that the queue can hold (Q258748).
 This may also help your processor utilization, because it will quit trying
 to send these caught emails.
 
 Just ideas to look into.
 
 Doug
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:09 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
 
 
 Heh, yeah... I guess so.  Anyway, if you can lend a hand, please let me
 know.  This is very frustrating.  My queue is getting TONS of messages per
 minute from these spammers and I need to get it fixed as it's using up to
 about 30% of our incoming T1 bandwidth.
 
  Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... :  
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
  this
  
  
  3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)
  
  1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of
  yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory
  is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not my
  domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site). 3. I
  went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and the
  results showed that my server could be used as a relay.
  
  :) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in
  IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!
  
  
   How do you know you are being used as a relay?
   
   Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
  this
   
   
   Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not infected
   by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative 
   security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.
   
   The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it
   because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T
   allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
   
   220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov 
   2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
   220 ESMTP spoken here 
   
   At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other 
   commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
   response.
   
   If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on
   the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and use
   it as a relay without problem.
   
   What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me
   out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
   Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
   worried that our domain will start getting banned or black listed (I
   heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay point.  This
   is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
   
   If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
   
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Jesse Rink

Hey Bob, thanks for the reply!

www.abuse.net told me I failed on TEST #1.  I should also mention, the
messages getting loaded into the queue are not destined for my domain nor
originating from my domain.  The are usually from hotmail.com accounts to
various other domains (but not my domain whitnall.com) and contain porn
links.  So I think it is a relay issue.

They are not ALL originating from the exact same email address, but they
are all hotmail.com accounts.


 Again, as far as i see it, it is tons of _incoming_ mail... this,
 ofcourse, is not relaying, you're just being fscked by some brainless
 *sshole.
 
 Tell me, at what point is your mailserver allowing relaying according to
 abuse.net?
 I'll bet it's just the last one, if this is the case than you should
 stop worrying about being (ab)used for relaying, instead worry about
 someone mailbombing you.
 
 Also, you should be able to see where those e-mails are coming from. Are
 they all from the same host/mailserver?
 
 
 Bob ten Berge
 deVisie automatiseringsdiensten
 
 
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  Verzonden: woensdag 21 november 2001 16:09
  Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Jesse Rink

I'm not sure where to find the source of the IP address where the emails
are coming from.  In addition, blocking that one IP doesn't stop others
from using my IIS SMTP relay as a relay point, just that one address I
believe so I need a more permanent fix.  Thanks.


 Block the IP at the router... 
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:09 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
 
 
 Heh, yeah... I guess so.  Anyway, if you can lend a hand, please let me
 know.  This is very frustrating.  My queue is getting TONS of messages
 per minute from these spammers and I need to get it fixed as it's using
 up to about 30% of our incoming T1 bandwidth.
 
  Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... : 
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
  this
  
  
  3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)
  
  1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of
  yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory
 
  is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not
  my domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site).
  3. I went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and 
  the results showed that my server could be used as a relay.
  
  :) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in
 
  IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!
  
  
   How do you know you are being used as a relay?
   
   Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
  this
   
   
   Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not 
   infected by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS 
   cumulative security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay 
   point.
   
   The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing 
   it because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it 
   DOESN'T allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
   
   220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov
   2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
   220 ESMTP spoken here 
   
   At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other
   commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
   response.
   
   If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on
   the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and
 use
   it as a relay without problem.
   
   What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me
   out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
   Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
   worried that our domain will start getting banned or black listed (I
 
   heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay point.
 This
   is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
   
   If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
   
   Jesse Rink
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping thi s

2001-11-21 Thread John Morin

This article discusses setting up the SMTP service to relay, so there may be
some hints in here

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q230/2/35.asp

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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 11:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
this


I'm not sure where to find the source of the IP address where the emails
are coming from.  In addition, blocking that one IP doesn't stop others
from using my IIS SMTP relay as a relay point, just that one address I
believe so I need a more permanent fix.  Thanks.


 Block the IP at the router... 
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:09 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
 
 
 Heh, yeah... I guess so.  Anyway, if you can lend a hand, please let me
 know.  This is very frustrating.  My queue is getting TONS of messages
 per minute from these spammers and I need to get it fixed as it's using
 up to about 30% of our incoming T1 bandwidth.
 
  Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... : 
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
  this
  
  
  3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)
  
  1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of
  yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory
 
  is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not
  my domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site).
  3. I went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and 
  the results showed that my server could be used as a relay.
  
  :) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in
 
  IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!
  
  
   How do you know you are being used as a relay?
   
   Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
  this
   
   
   Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not 
   infected by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS 
   cumulative security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay 
   point.
   
   The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing 
   it because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it 
   DOESN'T allow me to relay.  The following shows up:
   
   220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov
   2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
   220 ESMTP spoken here 
   
   At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other
   commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
   response.
   
   If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on
   the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and
 use
   it as a relay without problem.
   
   What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me
   out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
   Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
   worried that our domain will start getting banned or black listed (I
 
   heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay point.
 This
   is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.
   
   If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.
   
   Jesse Rink
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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping thi---s

2001-11-21 Thread Jesse Rink

I've gone through this before and find it to be of little help. 
Unfortunately I cannot grasp how to allow relay for whitnall.com ONLY and
not any other domain.  I'm not sure whether I should use authentication or
not, and if so, what type of authentication, etc.  I need someone that has
IIS SMTP running to lend a hand if possible.


 This article discusses setting up the SMTP service to relay, so there may be
 some hints in here
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q230/2/35.asp
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 11:26 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
 this
 
 
 I'm not sure where to find the source of the IP address where the emails
 are coming from.  In addition, blocking that one IP doesn't stop others
 from using my IIS SMTP relay as a relay point, just that one address I
 believe so I need a more permanent fix.  Thanks.
 
 
  Block the IP at the router... 
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:09 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
  this
  
  
  Heh, yeah... I guess so.  Anyway, if you can lend a hand, please let me
  know.  This is very frustrating.  My queue is getting TONS of messages
  per minute from these spammers and I need to get it fixed as it's using
  up to about 30% of our incoming T1 bandwidth.
  
   Well, then I must modify my band camp scenario... : 
   
   Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:01 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
   this
   
   
   3 reasons why I know (in order of finding them out)
   
   1. The amount of incoming traffic on our T1 increased about 40x as of
   yesterday. 2. The # of messages in the IIS SMTP relay /queue directory
  
   is constantly around 1500 messages and are FROM: a domain that is not
   my domain (some dude sending hotmail.com messages about a porn site).
   3. I went to www.abuse.net and used their smtp relay abuse test and
   the results showed that my server could be used as a relay.
   
   :) or should I say, :(  heh.. Need help figuring out what to change in
  
   IIS SMTP now.. Thanks!
   
   
How do you know you are being used as a relay?

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping
   this


Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not 
infected by the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS 
cumulative security bulletin, I am still being used as a relay 
point.

The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing
it because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it 
DOESN'T allow me to relay.  The following shows up:

220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov
2001 08:16:19  -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
220 ESMTP spoken here 

At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other
commands, and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no 
response.

If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on
the LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and
  use
it as a relay without problem.

What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me
out here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) 
Exchange server is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm 
worried that our domain will start getting banned or black listed (I
  
heard this happens) because we are being used as a relay point.
  This
is the 2nd day it's been occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.

If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.

Jesse Rink
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this

2001-11-21 Thread Andrew Philips

http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696

did someone send you this?  This was the easiest for me to understand...

W. Andrew Philips
Customer Service Manager
Networks Plus
Phone: (785) 587-4121 x202
(785) 267-6800 x202
Fax:  (785) 565-2902
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-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 8:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: My IIS SMTP is being used as a relay - need help stopping this


Well, after making sure my IIS 4.0 SMTP relay server was not infected by
the NIMDA virus and applying all the MS01-044 IIS cumulative security
bulletin, I am still being used as a relay point.

The most confusing thing is: I can't understand how they are doing it
because when I telnet into the IIS SMTP relay from HOME, it DOESN'T
allow
me to relay.  The following shows up:

220-w-smtp01.whitnall.com Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 21 Nov 2001
08:16:19
 -0600 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19
220 ESMTP spoken here 

At this point I try and type Helo me, Mail From:, or other commands,
and they ALL fail with either a) a 550 error, b) no response.

If on the other hand, I telnet into the SMTP relay from a PC here on the
LAN I can issue Helo me, Mail From: or other commands and use it as
a
relay without problem.

What I'm looking for is someone running IIS SMTP services to help me out
here.  My IIS SMTP relay is in my DMZ Interface and my (1) Exchange
server
is on the Inside Interface of the firewall.  I'm worried that our domain
will start getting banned or black listed (I heard this happens) because
we are being used as a relay point.  This is the 2nd day it's been
occuring and I need to get this fixed soon.

If you can help, please let me know.  Thanks.

Jesse Rink
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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