OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Tammy George
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - 

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for
our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES
so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots
to learn!

 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is
the process straightforward or complex?

 

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me
started, it would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

-- 

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 



Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread John Cook
What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade

Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066



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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Tammy George
Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade 

Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – 

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

 

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

-- 

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 

 



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Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread John Cook
Running on server 2003?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066



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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Tammy George
Yes.

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

Running on server 2003? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade 

Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade 

Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – 

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

 

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

-- 

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 

 



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Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Jeff Brown
My advice, if you don't have to, don't do both upgrades at the same time.
 We did.  didn't have any big issues with upgrade/installations, but it's a
lot to take in for a busy production environment.  you won't know till you
in the middle of it what issues the exchange upgrade will present,
especially if you have developers trying to route stuff out through
exchange.

BES 5.0 is slick, but very different.  Since you are not already that
familiar with 4.x maybe it isn't such a deal for you.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.cawrote:

  Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –



 I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our
 Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have **no** experience with BES so
 I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to
 learn!



 Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the
 process straightforward or complex?



 If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me
 started, it would be greatly appreciated!



 Thanks in advance.





 --

 Tammy George

 Sr. Systems Operator

 Technology Services

 Acadia University

 tel: (902) 585-1158

 fax: (902) 585-1066





Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread John Cook
Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set 
up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has 
a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a 
case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time.
HTH
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

Yes.


From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Running on server 2003?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066



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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Andy Shook
Why not R2?  Inquiring minds want to know….

Shook

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set 
up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has 
a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a 
case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time.
HTH
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Yes.


From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Running on server 2003?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066



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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Not supported.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

Why not R2?  Inquiring minds want to know….

Shook

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set 
up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has 
a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a 
case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time.
HTH
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Yes.


From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Running on server 2003?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066



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Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Jeff Brown
RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent
update.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

 Not supported.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade



 Why not R2?  Inquiring minds want to know….



 Shook



 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage,
 set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users
 (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or
 pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down
 time.
 HTH
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


 --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade

 Yes.





 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 Running on server 2003?
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


 --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade

 Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.







 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes)
 then 5. How many users?
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


 --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
 *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade

 Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –



 I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our
 Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have **no** experience with BES so
 I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to
 learn!



 Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the
 process straightforward or complex?



 If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me
 started, it would be greatly appreciated!



 Thanks in advance.





 --

 Tammy George

 Sr. Systems Operator

 Technology Services

 Acadia University

 tel: (902) 585-1158

 fax: (902) 585-1066




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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Tammy George
Interesting...

 

Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008?

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set 
up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has 
a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a 
case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. 
HTH 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade 

Yes.

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

Running on server 2003? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade 

Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade 

Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – 

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

 

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

-- 

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 

 



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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Do you have a link? I called two weeks ago, and was told that R2 support 
wouldn't be coming until 5.0 sp2.

Thanks.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent update.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
Not supported.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.commailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

Why not R2?  Inquiring minds want to know

Shook

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set 
up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has 
a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a 
case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time.
HTH
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.camailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Yes.


From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Running on server 2003?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.camailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.camailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions -

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066



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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread May, Jeff
Same thing stated at WES as well...sp2 gets you R2, I think you can run
but not officially supported, much like the SQL clustering, can run but
not officially supported yet.

 

And yes, the new can be 2003, we are currently in the same boat,
exchange 2003 and BES 4.1.6, have a new environment with 5.0.1 on
separate environment using BES Transporter to migrate, our biggest
obstacle we are dealing with now is the named property limits within
exchange 2003 being reached and causing migration issues for certain
users.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

 

Do you have a link? I called two weeks ago, and was told that R2 support
wouldn't be coming until 5.0 sp2.

 

Thanks.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent
update.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
wrote:

Not supported.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

 

Why not R2?  Inquiring minds want to know

 

Shook

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every
stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and
migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are
rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will
help mitigate down time. 
HTH 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade 

Yes.

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

Running on server 2003? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade 

Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes)
then 5. How many users? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade 

Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - 

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for
our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES
so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots
to learn!

 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is
the process straightforward or complex?

 

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me
started, it would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

-- 

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 

 



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Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Jeff Brown
As far as I know the only server product they are shy about is '08R2.  It'll
run on '03 just fine.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.cawrote:

  Interesting...



 Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008?







 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:27 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage,
 set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users
 (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or
 pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down
 time.
 HTH
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


  --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade

 Yes.





 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 Running on server 2003?
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


  --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade

 Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.







 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes)
 then 5. How many users?
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


  --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
 *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade

 Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –



 I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our
 Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have **no** experience with BES so
 I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to
 learn!



 Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the
 process straightforward or complex?



 If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me
 started, it would be greatly appreciated!



 Thanks in advance.





 --

 Tammy George

 Sr. Systems Operator

 Technology Services

 Acadia University

 tel: (902) 585-1158

 fax: (902) 585-1066




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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Tammy George
What about an in-place upgrade?  I've read about this in the Upgrade
documentation.  Has anyone tried this?

 

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

As far as I know the only server product they are shy about is '08R2.
It'll run on '03 just fine.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
wrote:

Interesting...

 

Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008?

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:27 PM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every
stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and
migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are
rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will
help mitigate down time. 
HTH 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade 

Yes.

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

Running on server 2003? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade 

Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes)
then 5. How many users? 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade 

Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - 

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for
our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES
so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots
to learn!

 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is
the process straightforward or complex?

 

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me
started, it would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

-- 

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 

 



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Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review,
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Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread John Cook
You can run it on 2003 just fine but going forward do you want to keep setting 
up 2003 servers knowing EOS is not that many years off?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:43:05 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

Interesting...

Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008?



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set 
up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has 
a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a 
case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time.
HTH
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Yes.


From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Running on server 2003?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066



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Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Jeff Brown
Michael,

I may well be running in what is officially an unsupported environment,
but they didn't refuse to help me, and we were able to resolve the issues I
was having.  I am not able to use AD to login the the BES management
interface, as far as I know that is the only thing that doesn't work.  I am
running 5.0.1 MR2(bundle 117).That is running on a R2 HyperV VM and tied
to an E2k7 server environment.  Again, if I had it to do over again I'd
probably install 4.x for now.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM, May, Jeff j...@bbandt.com wrote:

  Same thing stated at WES as well…sp2 gets you R2, I think you can run but
 not officially supported, much like the SQL clustering, can run but not
 officially supported yet…..



 And yes, the new can be 2003, we are currently in the same boat, exchange
 2003 and BES 4.1.6, have a new environment with 5.0.1 on separate
 environment using BES Transporter to migrate, our biggest obstacle we are
 dealing with now is the named property limits within exchange 2003 being
 reached and causing migration issues for certain users.



 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:46 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade



 Do you have a link? I called two weeks ago, and was told that R2 support
 wouldn’t be coming until 5.0 sp2.



 Thanks.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent
 update.

 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:

 Not supported.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade



 Why not R2?  Inquiring minds want to know….



 Shook



 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage,
 set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users
 (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or
 pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down
 time.
 HTH
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


  --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade

 Yes.





 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 Running on server 2003?
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


  --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade

 Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.







 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes)
 then 5. How many users?
 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership for Strong Families


  --

 *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
 *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade

 Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –



 I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our
 Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have **no** experience with BES so
 I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to
 learn!



 Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the
 process straightforward or complex?



 If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me
 started, it would be greatly appreciated!



 Thanks in advance.





 --

 Tammy George

 Sr. Systems Operator

 Technology Services

 Acadia University

 tel: (902) 585-1158

 fax: (902) 585-1066




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Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Bill Humphries
They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can 
purchase.  I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the 
comfort , peace of mind and convenience.  It basically allows you to 
have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected 
to the BB network for 90 days.  With this and the free BES migration 
tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old system 
to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs 
or other silliness.  The migration was easy, with no downtime for users.


The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted 
remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server.



Bill



Tammy George wrote:


Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions --

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for 
our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have **no** experience with 
BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.  
 Lots to learn!


 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is 
the process straightforward or complex?


 

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me 
started, it would be greatly appreciated!


 


Thanks in advance.

 

 


--

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 





RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Don Andrews
Good point - we are using this upgrade (BES 4.1.6 on 2003 to 5.0 on virtual 
w/2008) as an opportunity to clear out all the old stuff in the DB and old 
hardware/OS etc.

Transporter should allow for simple move to all new environment (it says here 
in the fine print).


From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

You can run it on 2003 just fine but going forward do you want to keep setting 
up 2003 servers knowing EOS is not that many years off?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:43:05 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

Interesting...

Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008?



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set 
up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has 
a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a 
case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time.
HTH
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Yes.


From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

Running on server 2003?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade
Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users.



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. 
How many users?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010
Subject: OT - BES upgrade
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions -

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066



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Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread John Cook
Sorry you had to pay, I got free support, do you not have T support?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Jun 01 15:21:07 2010
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase.  
I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of 
mind and convenience.  It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your 
new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days.  With 
this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved 
users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, 
knife edge cut-overs or other silliness.  The migration was easy, with no 
downtime for users.

The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely 
one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server.


Bill



Tammy George wrote:
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066




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RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
That's how I did it, but I didn't have to pay. It was free.

 

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can
purchase.  I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort
, peace of mind and convenience.  It basically allows you to have a second
SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network
for 90 days.  With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my
new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure.
No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness.  The migration
was easy, with no downtime for users.

The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted
remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server.


Bill



Tammy George wrote: 

Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - 

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I
need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the
process straightforward or complex?

 

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started,
it would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

-- 

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 

 



Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Bill Humphries
They let you have two SRPs at one time without paying?  I know the 
transporter tools were free.


We do have T support, but was told no multiple SRPs without buying 
another server license or this migration option. 



Martin Blackstone wrote:


That's how I did it, but I didn't have to pay. It was free.

 


*From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM
*To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade

 

They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can 
purchase.  I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the 
comfort , peace of mind and convenience.  It basically allows you to 
have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected 
to the BB network for 90 days.  With this and the free BES migration 
tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old 
system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge 
cut-overs or other silliness.  The migration was easy, with no 
downtime for users.


The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted 
remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new 
server.



Bill



Tammy George wrote:

Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions --

 

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for 
our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have **no** experience with 
BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.  
 Lots to learn!


 

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is 
the process straightforward or complex?


 

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me 
started, it would be greatly appreciated!


 


Thanks in advance.

 

 


--

Tammy George

Sr. Systems Operator

Technology Services

Acadia University

tel: (902) 585-1158

fax: (902) 585-1066

 

 





RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Simon Butler
I have just done a 400 user migration.
All I did was download the evaluation from RIM, entered the trial key.
Then used the CALs from the live environment on the new environment and the 
transporter suite to move the users. Completely transparent to them that 
anything changed.
The only thing I did ensure was that the devices were online when I moved them, 
so it was all done in production hours and warned the users they might see it 
go through the activation process. The RIM documentation is very good on the 
process.

The only issues I have seen since the migration is where a user cannot be 
administrated. You click on the user and find that you cannot view their 
properties. Apparently this is quite common. Deleting the user then going 
through the reactivation process was the quick and easy fix.

Simon.


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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 June 2010 20:33
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade

That's how I did it, but I didn't have to pay. It was free.

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase.  
I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of 
mind and convenience.  It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your 
new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days.  With 
this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved 
users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, 
knife edge cut-overs or other silliness.  The migration was easy, with no 
downtime for users.

The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely 
one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server.


Bill



Tammy George wrote:
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions -

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066




Re: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Jeff Brown
I too was given a 90 day temporary SRP.  All I did was ask.  It only came
with 5 CALS and would not allow me to transfer my NON-temp CAL's to it.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

  They let you have two SRPs at one time without paying?  I know the
 transporter tools were free.

 We do have T support, but was told no multiple SRPs without buying another
 server license or this migration option.


 Martin Blackstone wrote:

  That’s how I did it, but I didn’t have to pay. It was free.



 *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.comnt...@hedgedigger.com]

 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade



 They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can
 purchase.  I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort
 , peace of mind and convenience.  It basically allows you to have a second
 SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network
 for 90 days.  With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my
 new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure.
 No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness.  The migration
 was easy, with no downtime for users.

 The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted
 remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new
 server.


 Bill



 Tammy George wrote:

 Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions –



 I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our
 Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have **no** experience with BES so
 I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to
 learn!



 Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the
 process straightforward or complex?



 If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me
 started, it would be greatly appreciated!



 Thanks in advance.





 --

 Tammy George

 Sr. Systems Operator

 Technology Services

 Acadia University

 tel: (902) 585-1158

 fax: (902) 585-1066









RE: OT - BES upgrade

2010-06-01 Thread Simon Butler
There is a trick to allow you to use production CALs with a T SRP.
Overtype the first CAL with a production CAL. Then you can add the rest of the 
CALs to the server. I was running with 400 CALs on both servers for over a week 
when I did the migration I mentioned earlier in the thread.

Simon.

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 June 2010 20:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

I too was given a 90 day temporary SRP.  All I did was ask.  It only came with 
5 CALS and would not allow me to transfer my NON-temp CAL's to it.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bill Humphries 
nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:
They let you have two SRPs at one time without paying?  I know the transporter 
tools were free.

We do have T support, but was told no multiple SRPs without buying another 
server license or this migration option.


Martin Blackstone wrote:
That's how I did it, but I didn't have to pay. It was free.

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade

They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase.  
I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of 
mind and convenience.  It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your 
new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days.  With 
this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved 
users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, 
knife edge cut-overs or other silliness.  The migration was easy, with no 
downtime for users.

The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely 
one time when I moved the specific user account.tohttp://account.to the new 
server.


Bill



Tammy George wrote:
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions -

I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our 
Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010.  I have *no* experience with BES so I need 
to familiarize myself with it first and go from there.   Lots to learn!

Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums?  Is the 
process straightforward or complex?

If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it 
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


--
Tammy George
Sr. Systems Operator
Technology Services
Acadia University
tel: (902) 585-1158
fax: (902) 585-1066