RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
Trend ScanMail for Exchange, or Trend's Interscan Viruswall. Both are great products and definitely lifesavers. Trend also lets you update your software for up to 1 year free. We had 8 days left on our software purchase and they sent us a new license for the new version without a problem. We purchased Interscan VirusWall a few months later because of issues with McAfee. McAfee Webshield SMTP is not 1/2 bad, but it is not 1/2 good either. Their tech support sucks unless you buy the phone support...and then it is still not that great. It took them 2 weeks to get me an answer when I filed a question on their web support page one time and 1 week the next. During that 2 weeks I had to install a completely new server. Norton's mail proxy product is not very user friendly. I have heard wonderful things about Antigen. Of course they are all expensive! Look at what the program does, look at the hourly work that their definitions programmers conduct. Think of the QA testing of a new virus def. Compare that to the consequences, AV scanners are actually cheap insurance. To bring it to light: We all HATE that car insurance bill...until we get in an accident and see $20k going out that we would have lost. Some executives I have worked for up north thought that IT/IS was a money hole...until one called me on a Sunday morning to help out their kid in college on a computer project. I am going to bet that you are not aware of Microsoft's best security practices located @ Microsoft's Technet site. Most people make desktop and anti-virus the first step. Secure the machines as well, particularly your servers. Example of a small cost analysis: Precursor to this: At least present a P.O. for one of the Anti-virus products. If the CEO/President denies the P.O. and you get a virus, present the P.O. again and ask for it to be signed. Software is expensive...but not having it is more expensive. Check with Paul Christiansen @ Insight. They have pretty good pricing. Corporate Structure: 500 user engineering software development and support firm with a annual payroll of $22.5 million (Average of 45k/person). (or, for that matter a 500 person law firm) Employees work 7 hours with a 1 hour paid lunch. 75% of its business and written communication conducted via e-mail. There is 1 fax machine per floor and one in the executive suite. Client e-mails are in address books and are custom recipients. Full T-1/DS-1. Non-destructive worm: A worm comes through e-mail and propogates. This is a nice worm like the Love ya virus and not bad like the nimda virus. Exchange server has to be shut down for the day to prevent propogation until you can get a trial version of Trend installed. You call Trend for support, even during the 30-day trial, and they do their best to help and may even offer suggestions on what file types to block. I follwed ICSA.net's guidelines. Internet activity is slowed to a crawl because of the worm sending out messages. Consequences: Wasted time alone is $19,687.50 based on 7 hours of 500 users @ 22.5mm year @ 2000 hours paid with a 25% loss in productivity. I can guarantee that 1 day of downtime will more than offset for the software in a company that can afford the Exchange box, CALs, and infrastructure Employee effectiveness is reduced by 25% Clients are pissed. A client may get the worm. Their charismatic, but otherwise barely technically competent sysadmin blames your company. Their CEO calls your CEO and blames your company. Your company eats 10% as a customer satisfaction discount on the new engineering software. Getting chewed out wastes 1/2 hour of your time. You work to fix the problems. Clear out the IMS/IMC...accidentally wipe important e-mail from the President of the company to a board member overseas. Your boss is more than unhappy. Three weeks later they hire another admin that you get to supervise and train over the next month. The end of the next month, for no reason, you get the chance to wait in line to learn new resume writing skills at the unemployment office. Solution: Install 30-day trial to get you out of the fine mess you have gotten yourself into. If the software trial runs out and you do not purchase the product...guess WHAT? You get to go through this again and again until some destructive virus, such as nimda comes in and wipes out important corporate data and servers. You find yourself prepping a resume. Bob -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 2:42 a.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
The only thing that Webshield has over Interscan is the content filtering, spam filter, etc. The AV engine in Trend is superior IMHO. But for the extras you get in Webshield, you would have to buy as a separate program for Interscan. Now Trend does have a new product out that looks like a mix of Interscan and eManager in one. I haven't tried it yet, but will soon. -Original Message- From: Bob Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange Trend ScanMail for Exchange, or Trend's Interscan Viruswall. Both are great products and definitely lifesavers. Trend also lets you update your software for up to 1 year free. We had 8 days left on our software purchase and they sent us a new license for the new version without a problem. We purchased Interscan VirusWall a few months later because of issues with McAfee. McAfee Webshield SMTP is not 1/2 bad, but it is not 1/2 good either. Their tech support sucks unless you buy the phone support...and then it is still not that great. It took them 2 weeks to get me an answer when I filed a question on their web support page one time and 1 week the next. During that 2 weeks I had to install a completely new server. Norton's mail proxy product is not very user friendly. I have heard wonderful things about Antigen. Of course they are all expensive! Look at what the program does, look at the hourly work that their definitions programmers conduct. Think of the QA testing of a new virus def. Compare that to the consequences, AV scanners are actually cheap insurance. To bring it to light: We all HATE that car insurance bill...until we get in an accident and see $20k going out that we would have lost. Some executives I have worked for up north thought that IT/IS was a money hole...until one called me on a Sunday morning to help out their kid in college on a computer project. I am going to bet that you are not aware of Microsoft's best security practices located @ Microsoft's Technet site. Most people make desktop and anti-virus the first step. Secure the machines as well, particularly your servers. Example of a small cost analysis: Precursor to this: At least present a P.O. for one of the Anti-virus products. If the CEO/President denies the P.O. and you get a virus, present the P.O. again and ask for it to be signed. Software is expensive...but not having it is more expensive. Check with Paul Christiansen @ Insight. They have pretty good pricing. Corporate Structure: 500 user engineering software development and support firm with a annual payroll of $22.5 million (Average of 45k/person). (or, for that matter a 500 person law firm) Employees work 7 hours with a 1 hour paid lunch. 75% of its business and written communication conducted via e-mail. There is 1 fax machine per floor and one in the executive suite. Client e-mails are in address books and are custom recipients. Full T-1/DS-1. Non-destructive worm: A worm comes through e-mail and propogates. This is a nice worm like the Love ya virus and not bad like the nimda virus. Exchange server has to be shut down for the day to prevent propogation until you can get a trial version of Trend installed. You call Trend for support, even during the 30-day trial, and they do their best to help and may even offer suggestions on what file types to block. I follwed ICSA.net's guidelines. Internet activity is slowed to a crawl because of the worm sending out messages. Consequences: Wasted time alone is $19,687.50 based on 7 hours of 500 users @ 22.5mm year @ 2000 hours paid with a 25% loss in productivity. I can guarantee that 1 day of downtime will more than offset for the software in a company that can afford the Exchange box, CALs, and infrastructure Employee effectiveness is reduced by 25% Clients are pissed. A client may get the worm. Their charismatic, but otherwise barely technically competent sysadmin blames your company. Their CEO calls your CEO and blames your company. Your company eats 10% as a customer satisfaction discount on the new engineering software. Getting chewed out wastes 1/2 hour of your time. You work to fix the problems. Clear out the IMS/IMC...accidentally wipe important e-mail from the President of the company to a board member overseas. Your boss is more than unhappy. Three weeks later they hire another admin that you get to supervise and train over the next month. The end of the next month, for no reason, you get the chance to wait in line to learn new resume writing skills at the unemployment office. Solution: Install 30-day trial to get you out of the fine mess you have gotten yourself into. If the software trial runs out and you do not purchase the product...guess WHAT? You get to go through this again and again until some destructive virus, such as nimda comes in and wipes out important corporate data and servers. You find yourself
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
Strange - GroupShield with dat 4171 detected it as W32/BadTrans@MM here. Karen -Original Message- From: Simon Curtiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 November 2001 03:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange erm.. talking to myself, but... Case in point, I have a virus coming in today that is going straight through Network Associates VirusScan NT - DAT 4172 like butter, but Mail Marshal has stopped the lot. 4173 has yet to appear Beware of e-mails with an underscore before the name! eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Simon Curtiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 10:43 p.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange Only Antigen is an AV package, the other two are Content Filters (and much much more) - Frankly I would go with Mail Marshal and Antigen (I don't use Antigen myself - we use the unmentionable product *cough*Inoculate*/cough* but Antigen users are very rabid in their endorsement of the product- so maybe it's OK ;-) - I don't believe that *any* AV product alone is enough to keep you safe these days and I'm a rabid endorser of Mail Marshal - my Exchange level AV product has only seen 1 virus in the last two years, 'cos they just don't get that far. www.mailmarshal.com Try it you'll like it. As for cost - well how much is your business worth, and on the sharp end of the stick how much is your job worth? cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 2:42 a.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ## ### Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ## ### List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ## ### Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ## ### List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
Title: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I just read all the posts in this thread and noticed that no one mentioned Trend Micro ScanMail. When I posted the question of what anti-virus software to use with Exchange, most everyone said ScanMail. It is even in the Swynk FAQ last I read it. Now everyone says Antigen? Should I be switching after my year is up with ScanMail or what? -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange antigen is great - when set up properly (which is very easy to do) you are at least 99.% protected. While others are being hit by varies virus you will be protected. Whiles others are waiting for updates you will be protected. Your exchange server will be up and on while others have taken theirs off line. ellery -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 7:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
I use Antigen, but I have heard that ScanMail is also a very good product. You will not go wrong purchasing either one. I would try both and see which one you like the best. I know that Antigen has a free trial download that will uninstall from the Exchange server very clean, so give it a try. Not sure about Trend. Mark -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I just read all the posts in this thread and noticed that no one mentioned Trend Micro ScanMail. When I posted the question of what anti-virus software to use with Exchange, most everyone said ScanMail. It is even in the Swynk FAQ last I read it. Now everyone says Antigen? Should I be switching after my year is up with ScanMail or what? -Original Message- From: Ellery July [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange antigen is great - when set up properly (which is very easy to do) you are at least 99.% protected. While others are being hit by varies virus you will be protected. Whiles others are waiting for updates you will be protected. Your exchange server will be up and on while others have taken theirs off line. ellery -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 7:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
Title: Message They are both excellent products. You would be happy with either of them. -Original Message-From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:12 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I just read all the posts in this thread and noticed that no one mentioned Trend Micro ScanMail. When I posted the question of what anti-virus software to use with Exchange, most everyone said ScanMail. It is even in the Swynk FAQ last I read it. Now everyone says Antigen? Should I be switching after my year is up with ScanMail or what? -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange antigen is great - when set up properly (which is very easy to do) you are at least 99.% protected. While others are being hit by varies virus you will be protected. Whiles others are waiting for updates you will be protected. Your exchange server will be up and on while others have taken theirs off line. ellery -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 7:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
Title: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange Already bought Trend, so maybe I'll try Antigen out towards the end of our year service agreement. Does Antigen work the same way? Buy a year and get free upgrades until the year is up? -Original Message- From: Mark L. Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I use Antigen, but I have heard that ScanMail is also a very good product. You will not go wrong purchasing either one. I would try both and see which one you like the best. I know that Antigen has a free trial download that will uninstall from the Exchange server very clean, so give it a try. Not sure about Trend. Mark -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I just read all the posts in this thread and noticed that no one mentioned Trend Micro ScanMail. When I posted the question of what anti-virus software to use with Exchange, most everyone said ScanMail. It is even in the Swynk FAQ last I read it. Now everyone says Antigen? Should I be switching after my year is up with ScanMail or what? -Original Message- From: Ellery July [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange antigen is great - when set up properly (which is very easy to do) you are at least 99.% protected. While others are being hit by varies virus you will be protected. Whiles others are waiting for updates you will be protected. Your exchange server will be up and on while others have taken theirs off line. ellery -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 7:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
Title: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange You are correct, they have multi-year packages as well. -Original Message-From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:43 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange Already bought Trend, so maybe I'll try Antigen out towards the end of our year service agreement. Does Antigen work the same way? Buy a year and get free upgrades until the year is up? -Original Message- From: Mark L. Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I use Antigen, but I have heard that ScanMail is also a very good product. You will not go wrong purchasing either one. I would try both and see which one you like the best. I know that Antigen has a free trial download that will uninstall from the Exchange server very clean, so give it a try. Not sure about Trend. Mark -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I just read all the posts in this thread and noticed that no one mentioned Trend Micro ScanMail. When I posted the question of what anti-virus software to use with Exchange, most everyone said ScanMail. It is even in the Swynk FAQ last I read it. Now everyone says Antigen? Should I be switching after my year is up with ScanMail or what? -Original Message- From: Ellery July [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange antigen is great - when set up properly (which is very easy to do) you are at least 99.% protected. While others are being hit by varies virus you will be protected. Whiles others are waiting for updates you will be protected. Your exchange server will be up and on while others have taken theirs off line. ellery -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 7:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
GFI MailEssentials also got the Norman AntiVirus built in. Not so well known av but descent. Usually gets good score. Anyway i'm very pleased with MailEssentials. Arve -Original Message- From: Simon Curtiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange Only Antigen is an AV package, the other two are Content Filters (and much much more) - Frankly I would go with Mail Marshal and Antigen (I don't use Antigen myself - we use the unmentionable product *cough*Inoculate*/cough* but Antigen users are very rabid in their endorsement of the product- so maybe it's OK ;-) - I don't believe that *any* AV product alone is enough to keep you safe these days and I'm a rabid endorser of Mail Marshal - my Exchange level AV product has only seen 1 virus in the last two years, 'cos they just don't get that far. www.mailmarshal.com Try it you'll like it. As for cost - well how much is your business worth, and on the sharp end of the stick how much is your job worth? cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 2:42 a.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm # Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com # List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
Title: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I prefer Antigen but switching is not worth the price or reinstall. -Original Message-From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange I just read all the posts in this thread and noticed that no one mentioned Trend Micro ScanMail. When I posted the question of what anti-virus software to use with Exchange, most everyone said ScanMail. It is even in the Swynk FAQ last I read it. Now everyone says Antigen? Should I be switching after my year is up with ScanMail or what? -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange antigen is great - when set up properly (which is very easy to do) you are at least 99.% protected. While others are being hit by varies virus you will be protected. Whiles others are waiting for updates you will be protected. Your exchange server will be up and on while others have taken theirs off line. ellery -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 7:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
Only Antigen is an AV package, the other two are Content Filters (and much much more) - Frankly I would go with Mail Marshal and Antigen (I don't use Antigen myself - we use the unmentionable product *cough*Inoculate*/cough* but Antigen users are very rabid in their endorsement of the product- so maybe it's OK ;-) - I don't believe that *any* AV product alone is enough to keep you safe these days and I'm a rabid endorser of Mail Marshal - my Exchange level AV product has only seen 1 virus in the last two years, 'cos they just don't get that far. www.mailmarshal.com Try it you'll like it. As for cost - well how much is your business worth, and on the sharp end of the stick how much is your job worth? cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 2:42 a.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm # Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com # List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
erm.. talking to myself, but... Case in point, I have a virus coming in today that is going straight through Network Associates VirusScan NT - DAT 4172 like butter, but Mail Marshal has stopped the lot. 4173 has yet to appear Beware of e-mails with an underscore before the name! eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Simon Curtiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 10:43 p.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange Only Antigen is an AV package, the other two are Content Filters (and much much more) - Frankly I would go with Mail Marshal and Antigen (I don't use Antigen myself - we use the unmentionable product *cough*Inoculate*/cough* but Antigen users are very rabid in their endorsement of the product- so maybe it's OK ;-) - I don't believe that *any* AV product alone is enough to keep you safe these days and I'm a rabid endorser of Mail Marshal - my Exchange level AV product has only seen 1 virus in the last two years, 'cos they just don't get that far. www.mailmarshal.com Try it you'll like it. As for cost - well how much is your business worth, and on the sharp end of the stick how much is your job worth? cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 2:42 a.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ## ### Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ## ### List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm # Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com # List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
This is the new Badtrans.B. Stopped by Trend InterScan at my Viruswall. I just love Trend! Arve -Original Message- From: Simon Curtiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 4:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange erm.. talking to myself, but... Case in point, I have a virus coming in today that is going straight through Network Associates VirusScan NT - DAT 4172 like butter, but Mail Marshal has stopped the lot. 4173 has yet to appear Beware of e-mails with an underscore before the name! eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Simon Curtiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 10:43 p.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange Only Antigen is an AV package, the other two are Content Filters (and much much more) - Frankly I would go with Mail Marshal and Antigen (I don't use Antigen myself - we use the unmentionable product *cough*Inoculate*/cough* but Antigen users are very rabid in their endorsement of the product- so maybe it's OK ;-) - I don't believe that *any* AV product alone is enough to keep you safe these days and I'm a rabid endorser of Mail Marshal - my Exchange level AV product has only seen 1 virus in the last two years, 'cos they just don't get that far. www.mailmarshal.com Try it you'll like it. As for cost - well how much is your business worth, and on the sharp end of the stick how much is your job worth? cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 2:42 a.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ## ### Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ## ### List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm # Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com # List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange
You're rightthey *seem* expensive, until they save your bacon and make you look like a freakin' hero. Antigen got me published in the local paper when our area got hit by one of the nasties. I'm not going to do your cost analysis for you, but I'm sure that the time it takes to try to restore an infected Exchange Server and *maybe* get back all the user's email, including your boss and his boss's email would be an easy justification for buying a top-notch product like Antigen. Spell it out for them. If they don't buy, you're not a good enough salesman. J -Original Message- From: Tony Flannery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange Hi, Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for Exchange 5.5 ? I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. Thanks for any input. Tony. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
