RE: Backups
So where are some good links for exchange DR? (5.5) -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:Re: Backups Then burn the mailbox contents to PST before whacking the mailbox. - Original Message - From: Bill Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: RE: Backups Excellent point, however we have managers who make a habit out of asking for mailboxes from 2 years ago. I don't delete mailboxes right away but I do after time since I am not running enterprise. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups I start off by not deleting it... Then, I have my DR server handy to practice DR on when the need arises and get my mailbox back that way... E2K makes BLB's even more worthless since there is a mailbox restore option now... -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
5.5 - http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.asp 2000 - http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/E2Krecovery.asp Regards, Patrick |-+ | | Bill Beckett | | | Bill.Beckett@rev| | | est.com | | || | | 06/10/2002 07:20 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | MS-Exchange | | | Admin Issues| | || |-+ ---| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Backups | | | | | ---| So where are some good links for exchange DR? (5.5) -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backups Then burn the mailbox contents to PST before whacking the mailbox. - Original Message - From: Bill Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: RE: Backups Excellent point, however we have managers who make a habit out of asking for mailboxes from 2 years ago. I don't delete mailboxes right away but I do after time since I am not running enterprise. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups I start off by not deleting it... Then, I have my DR server handy to practice DR on when the need arises and get my mailbox back that way... E2K makes BLB's even more worthless since there is a mailbox restore option now... -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had
RE: Backups
Waste of tape Waste of time Waste of resources Unreliable Proper backup/recovery methods render this useless Deleted Items Retention And the list goes on... Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
This is a great link that explains why http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
I like it! Added to favs... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups This is a great link that explains why http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
As I said I have never really had to, if I did I would recover the IS to my backup machine. I took an old 500 PC put one big IDE drive in it, and ghosted the drives on my exchnage box over to different partitions to the one big IDE drive. It justs sits in the corner doing nothing. One day If I ever get the guts, I want to put in place of the server just to see if it would fuction well emough to get us through a real disaster. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
I start off by not deleting it... Then, I have my DR server handy to practice DR on when the need arises and get my mailbox back that way... E2K makes BLB's even more worthless since there is a mailbox restore option now... -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
Excellent point, however we have managers who make a habit out of asking for mailboxes from 2 years ago. I don't delete mailboxes right away but I do after time since I am not running enterprise. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I start off by not deleting it... Then, I have my DR server handy to practice DR on when the need arises and get my mailbox back that way... E2K makes BLB's even more worthless since there is a mailbox restore option now... -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
If they're asking for mailboxes from two years ago, then that sounds like a perfect time to go through your DR procedures to make sure they're up to snuff. Don Ely - NMBOTWBAS and then some [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Excellent point, however we have managers who make a habit out of asking for mailboxes from 2 years ago. I don't delete mailboxes right away but I do after time since I am not running enterprise. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I start off by not deleting it... Then, I have my DR server handy to practice DR on when the need arises and get my mailbox back that way... E2K makes BLB's even more worthless since there is a mailbox restore option now... -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Backups
Then burn the mailbox contents to PST before whacking the mailbox. - Original Message - From: Bill Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: RE: Backups Excellent point, however we have managers who make a habit out of asking for mailboxes from 2 years ago. I don't delete mailboxes right away but I do after time since I am not running enterprise. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups I start off by not deleting it... Then, I have my DR server handy to practice DR on when the need arises and get my mailbox back that way... E2K makes BLB's even more worthless since there is a mailbox restore option now... -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Backups
Disaster recovery. It's good practice. And how often do you need to recover whole mailboxes that were accidentally deleted? M - Original Message - From: Bill Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
Like sending out this email without doing the sppelling check. DOH!!! John -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups As I said I have never really had to, if I did I would recover the IS to my backup machine. I took an old 500 PC put one big IDE drive in it, and ghosted the drives on my exchnage box over to different partitions to the one big IDE drive. It justs sits in the corner doing nothing. One day If I ever get the guts, I want to put in place of the server just to see if it would fuction well emough to get us through a real disaster. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Backups
Accidentally? Not once, by request on those mailboxes which were older... a few -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backups Disaster recovery. It's good practice. And how often do you need to recover whole mailboxes that were accidentally deleted? M - Original Message - From: Bill Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: RE: Backups Hmmm, well how do you recover a mailbox? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups Just backing up the IS, and not the mailboxes as well. John -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups So how are you doing your backups now? -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backups I was doing brick level backups for quite a while. Never had a problem with them, Never really had to use them, but I had the tape space, so figured what the hell? Well about two weeks ago after doing them for three years with out a hitch, suddenly they stopped working. Couldn't back up a one of them. Just for grins, I tried to restore a mailbox from a recently fired employee, and guess what it didn't work. I have done this on a regualar basis as part of my DR planning, and never had a problem. I made no changes to the server in weeks if not months, but suddenly nothing works. Before subscribing to this list I would have been in a big panic, but now I just turned them off. I think this shows just how unreliable a BLB backup is. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Backups Why do brick level backups = BAD? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
