Re: Exchange Deployment Services
This is an excellent question. I've been chasing multiple parties at MS for a week and a half now trying to find someone, as you say, knows their stuff and won't come on site and try to figure it out. I've talked to 4 people so far at MS and am no further along than when I began. Frustrating. Good luck. - Original Message - From: Brad Metzler BMetzler @cu-portland. edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist @ lyris .sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:43:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Exchange Deployment Services Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn ’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I’m sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let’s hear them! Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
RE: Exchange Deployment Services
Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don't missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc... Thanks Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I'm sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let's hear them! Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
H... What kind of disks are in the SAN? What kind of SAN is it? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don’t missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc… Thanks Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I’m sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let’s hear them! Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
RE: Exchange Deployment Services
Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I'm sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let's hear them! Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
And we are thankful for that! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: There's more than just gentlemen here on this list, there's a few of us ladies also... On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
There's more than just gentlemen here on this list, there's a few of us ladies also... On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
RE: Exchange Deployment Services
A Dell NX1950, which is just a Windows server acting as an iSCSI host for a few shelves of disks. It's cheap and works shockingly well. The VMFS volumes are run on RAID5 SAS 10k disk sets. Most of the rest of the storage are in much larger and cheaper (but slower) near-line SAS arrays. Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services H... What kind of disks are in the SAN? What kind of SAN is it? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don't missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc... Thanks Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I'm sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let's hear them! Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
How big are your databases now? Any retention policies? Any size limits? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: A Dell NX1950, which is just a Windows server acting as an iSCSI host for a few shelves of disks. It’s cheap and works shockingly well. The VMFS volumes are run on RAID5 SAS 10k disk sets. Most of the rest of the storage are in much larger and cheaper (but slower) near-line SAS arrays. Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:16 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services H... What kind of disks are in the SAN? What kind of SAN is it? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don’t missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc… Thanks Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I’m sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let’s hear them! Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
RE: Exchange Deployment Services
2GB limits on all the mailboxes right now. For the convenience of being able to take down individual stores without killing everyone the mailboxes are distributed across 9 stores on the server, presently about 180GB in total. Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How big are your databases now? Any retention policies? Any size limits? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: A Dell NX1950, which is just a Windows server acting as an iSCSI host for a few shelves of disks. It's cheap and works shockingly well. The VMFS volumes are run on RAID5 SAS 10k disk sets. Most of the rest of the storage are in much larger and cheaper (but slower) near-line SAS arrays. Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services H... What kind of disks are in the SAN? What kind of SAN is it? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don't missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc... Thanks Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I'm sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let's hear them! Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
