RE: HP E5500 Appliance
Sorry I was not very clear. it is just the mailbox store? Cheers Ryan From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. It's two servers in a box. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance It is not a complete solution? It is just a message store? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance HP does nothing except give you an automated installer. Long-and-short - it's designed to be two-nodes of a three-node DAG. A message node. Support 1000 - 5000 mailboxes, depending on load, replicate to the other server in the shared chassis, and to a remote third node. It includes no Exchange licenses nor CALs. It's a slick package, but IMO, it's designed for hosters and for the LORG. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Sounds very similar to something Azaleos might build and sell (Have not looked at their current offerings but it feels like what they sold when I worked there). - does HP do the full management of exchange - all of the patching, BES stuff, break fix, Teir 2 and above stuff, or are they more of a Teir3 or better call if you can't get it yourself deal? Where is the break even on hardware and software CAL's for this vs. going Hosted with Office 365? - that is if you don't need customer stuff you cannot get in the cloud? Looks like a quick simple install. Well tested and designed by MS and HP - From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
No, you can run whatever roles on the servers you want. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Sorry I was not very clear. it is just the mailbox store? Cheers Ryan From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. It's two servers in a box. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance It is not a complete solution? It is just a message store? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance HP does nothing except give you an automated installer. Long-and-short - it's designed to be two-nodes of a three-node DAG. A message node. Support 1000 - 5000 mailboxes, depending on load, replicate to the other server in the shared chassis, and to a remote third node. It includes no Exchange licenses nor CALs. It's a slick package, but IMO, it's designed for hosters and for the LORG. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Sounds very similar to something Azaleos might build and sell (Have not looked at their current offerings but it feels like what they sold when I worked there). - does HP do the full management of exchange - all of the patching, BES stuff, break fix, Teir 2 and above stuff, or are they more of a Teir3 or better call if you can't get it yourself deal? Where is the break even on hardware and software CAL's for this vs. going Hosted with Office 365? - that is if you don't need customer stuff you cannot get in the cloud? Looks like a quick simple install. Well tested and designed by MS and HP - From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist This message is for the designated recipient only and may
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
It is not a complete solution? It is just a message store? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance HP does nothing except give you an automated installer. Long-and-short - it's designed to be two-nodes of a three-node DAG. A message node. Support 1000 - 5000 mailboxes, depending on load, replicate to the other server in the shared chassis, and to a remote third node. It includes no Exchange licenses nor CALs. It's a slick package, but IMO, it's designed for hosters and for the LORG. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Sounds very similar to something Azaleos might build and sell (Have not looked at their current offerings but it feels like what they sold when I worked there). - does HP do the full management of exchange - all of the patching, BES stuff, break fix, Teir 2 and above stuff, or are they more of a Teir3 or better call if you can't get it yourself deal? Where is the break even on hardware and software CAL's for this vs. going Hosted with Office 365? - that is if you don't need customer stuff you cannot get in the cloud? Looks like a quick simple install. Well tested and designed by MS and HP - From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
I took a look and my general take is you'll get all the disadvantages of a blade platform, but none of the advantages. Someone mentioned $55K. For basically half that you could have 2 high-end DL380 G7 pizza boxes and 2 copies of Win Server Datacenter. Run hypervisor du jour, etc... I guess the market for this might be the med-large biz with little to no in-house talent and someone visiting monthly to do patching? Seems over-kill for a small biz. ...questioning how many largish businesses operate this way. Is it really a good thing if someone with no talent is clicking through a wizard to install an exchange DAG cluster? Neat idea, but what is the value? ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
The base Care Pack that comes with the units is for 24x7x365 for 3 years and covers the hardware and OS/Exchange support by HP. This can be extended to 4 or 5 years and upgraded to a Proactive Service 24 level. We're not looking at the cloud. The CALs are part of our Enterprise Agreement licensing. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Sounds very similar to something Azaleos might build and sell (Have not looked at their current offerings but it feels like what they sold when I worked there). - does HP do the full management of exchange - all of the patching, BES stuff, break fix, Teir 2 and above stuff, or are they more of a Teir3 or better call if you can't get it yourself deal? Where is the break even on hardware and software CAL's for this vs. going Hosted with Office 365? - that is if you don't need customer stuff you cannot get in the cloud? Looks like a quick simple install. Well tested and designed by MS and HP - From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
Lots for a LORG. An engineer describes a process, QA validates it, a tech. or jr. tech. follows the bouncing balls. The last datacenter I ran, I certainly wasn't the one that installed all the servers. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance I took a look and my general take is you'll get all the disadvantages of a blade platform, but none of the advantages. Someone mentioned $55K. For basically half that you could have 2 high-end DL380 G7 pizza boxes and 2 copies of Win Server Datacenter. Run hypervisor du jour, etc... I guess the market for this might be the med-large biz with little to no in-house talent and someone visiting monthly to do patching? Seems over-kill for a small biz. ...questioning how many largish businesses operate this way. Is it really a good thing if someone with no talent is clicking through a wizard to install an exchange DAG cluster? Neat idea, but what is the value? ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. It's two servers in a box. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance It is not a complete solution? It is just a message store? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance HP does nothing except give you an automated installer. Long-and-short - it's designed to be two-nodes of a three-node DAG. A message node. Support 1000 - 5000 mailboxes, depending on load, replicate to the other server in the shared chassis, and to a remote third node. It includes no Exchange licenses nor CALs. It's a slick package, but IMO, it's designed for hosters and for the LORG. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Sounds very similar to something Azaleos might build and sell (Have not looked at their current offerings but it feels like what they sold when I worked there). - does HP do the full management of exchange - all of the patching, BES stuff, break fix, Teir 2 and above stuff, or are they more of a Teir3 or better call if you can't get it yourself deal? Where is the break even on hardware and software CAL's for this vs. going Hosted with Office 365? - that is if you don't need customer stuff you cannot get in the cloud? Looks like a quick simple install. Well tested and designed by MS and HP - From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
Sounds very similar to something Azaleos might build and sell (Have not looked at their current offerings but it feels like what they sold when I worked there). - does HP do the full management of exchange - all of the patching, BES stuff, break fix, Teir 2 and above stuff, or are they more of a Teir3 or better call if you can't get it yourself deal? Where is the break even on hardware and software CAL's for this vs. going Hosted with Office 365? - that is if you don't need customer stuff you cannot get in the cloud? Looks like a quick simple install. Well tested and designed by MS and HP - From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: HP E5500 Appliance
HP does nothing except give you an automated installer. Long-and-short - it's designed to be two-nodes of a three-node DAG. A message node. Support 1000 - 5000 mailboxes, depending on load, replicate to the other server in the shared chassis, and to a remote third node. It includes no Exchange licenses nor CALs. It's a slick package, but IMO, it's designed for hosters and for the LORG. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Sounds very similar to something Azaleos might build and sell (Have not looked at their current offerings but it feels like what they sold when I worked there). - does HP do the full management of exchange - all of the patching, BES stuff, break fix, Teir 2 and above stuff, or are they more of a Teir3 or better call if you can't get it yourself deal? Where is the break even on hardware and software CAL's for this vs. going Hosted with Office 365? - that is if you don't need customer stuff you cannot get in the cloud? Looks like a quick simple install. Well tested and designed by MS and HP - From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that's a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We're looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I'm very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. Philip Hershey Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: HP E5500 Appliance
CDW sells it for like $55k. KevinM wrote: Sounds very similar to something Azaleos might build and sell (Have not looked at their current offerings but it feels like what they sold when I worked there). – does HP do the full management of exchange - all of the patching, BES stuff, break fix, Teir 2 and above stuff, or are they more of a Teir3 or better call if you can’t get it yourself deal? Where is the break even on hardware and software CAL’s for this vs. going Hosted with Office 365? – that is if you don’t need customer stuff you cannot get in the cloud? Looks like a quick simple install. Well tested and designed by MS and HP - *From:* Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: HP E5500 Appliance Take a little time and go to http://hp.feedroom.com. Search on E5000. It will come back with videos that are 10 minutes or shorter. Start the introduction, and it will cycle through them all with about 30 seconds between them. Basically an HP/MS co-developed and supported appliance that’s a 2-blade unit with 16 internal LFF 6G SAS drives. Each blade is has Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Exchange 2010 SP1 installed with a 2-copy DAG already configured between the two blades. Comes in base 16 TB or 32 TB models. You can add expansion up to a total of 128 TB. 4-hour 24x7x365 hardware, OS and Exchange support included for 3 years. For us that just leaves me with setting up a 2 server CAS/HT array in each site. *From:* KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:21 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: HP E5500 Appliance Why are you looking at them? IE- what about them looks appealing? *From:* Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 12:00 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* HP E5500 Appliance Is anyone using the HP E5500 Exchange 2010 appliances? We’re looking at a pair of them for our 2010 upgrade, and I’m very interested in hearing any feedback. Thanks. *Philip Hershey* Carpinteria, CA 93013-2062 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist