RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-10-04 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Message



Didnt 
need to know that 

  -Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 
  08:20 To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?
  Speak for yourself.
  
-Original Message-From: John Matteson 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 
12:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is it 
possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
?
I 
thought we had gotten away from the leather, whips and 
chains.

John Matteson; Exchange 
ManagerGeac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and 
Standards(404) 239 - 2981 You're just jealous because the little voices only talk to 
*ME*! 

  -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 
  01, 2001 12:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and 
  recover a users email ?
  A leather mask with a rubber ball in your mouth isn't a 
  disguise
  

-Original Message-From: Don Ely 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 
2001 7:40 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
?
Yeah, I put on a disguise too... ;o)

  
  -Original Message-From: Arnold, 
  Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 
  01, 2001 7:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and 
  recover a users email ?
  Yes, but they disguise their voice when they 
  call.
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 
01, 2001 10:11 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file 
and recover a users email ?
That's nice. But keep in mind that some of the 
folks on this list either wrote or edited the books your 50+ MCSE's 
used to pass their tests. And sometimes they have to call PSS. 

-Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 4:30 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover 
a users email ? 
You don't think I don't know that! 
I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and 
when we needed outside help, they gave us a 
pencil and told us to go into the bathroom and 'work it 
out.' 
All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we 
have about 50+ MCSE's working for us in 
various areas of the company. If on of my staff or I can't 
fix it, someone in our company should be able to. 

Greg 
-Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 
PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file 
and recover a users email ? 
Wow...someone has issues. Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another 
tool (and a very important one) in any 
knowledgable admin's toolbox. 
J 
-Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover 
a users email ? 
In a high tech company, calling tech support is 
considered a sign of not knowing your 
job. 
Greg 
-Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 
PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file 
and recover a users email ? 
Most of us use them on a per call basis. 

-Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover 
a users email ? 
A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from 
us to start. That's a lot for a 200 person 
company. 
Greg 
-Original Message- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-10-02 Thread Arnold, Jamie
Title: Message



Speak 
for yourself.

  -Original Message-From: John Matteson 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:31 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?
  I 
  thought we had gotten away from the leather, whips and 
  chains.
  
  John Matteson; Exchange 
  ManagerGeac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and 
  Standards(404) 239 - 2981 You're just jealous because the little voices only talk to 
  *ME*! 
  
-Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 01, 
2001 12:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
?
A 
leather mask with a rubber ball in your mouth isn't a 
disguise

  
  -Original Message-From: Don Ely 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 
  7:40 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is 
  it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
  ?
  Yeah, I put on a disguise too... ;o)
  

-Original Message-From: Arnold, 
Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 
01, 2001 7:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and 
recover a users email ?
Yes, but they disguise their voice when they 
call.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 
  01, 2001 10:11 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and 
  recover a users email ?
  That's nice. But keep in mind that some of the 
  folks on this list either wrote or edited the books your 50+ MCSE's 
  used to pass their tests. And sometimes they have to call PSS. 
  
  -Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 4:30 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  You don't think I don't know that! 
  I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and 
  when we needed outside help, they gave us a 
  pencil and told us to go into the bathroom and 'work it 
  out.' 
  All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we 
  have about 50+ MCSE's working for us in 
  various areas of the company. If on of my staff or I can't 
  fix it, someone in our company should be able to. 
  
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 
  PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and 
  recover a users email ? 
  Wow...someone has issues. Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another 
  tool (and a very important one) in any 
  knowledgable admin's toolbox. 
  J 
  -Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  In a high tech company, calling tech support is 
  considered a sign of not knowing your 
  job. 
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 
  PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and 
  recover a users email ? 
  Most of us use them on a per call basis. 
  
  -Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from 
  us to start. That's a lot for a 200 person 
  company. 
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 
  PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and 
  recover a users email ? 
  MS's Support Services. Premier 
  support service. 
  Just another acronym. 
  -Original Message- From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 
  PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-10-01 Thread STEVE BROOK

I agree, well said Ed, apart from the bit where you put PSS on a pedestal.
You must have some amazing guys in the states.  Here in the UK PSS is not
quite at the same level. For heaven's sake they nearly gave ME a job!!  And
who do Microsoft get to look after there Internal systems? Outside
contractors :))


Steve

-Original Message-
From: Mark L. Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 October 2001 06:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Very well said.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Just remind me to never order services from your company. I'd much
rather go with a company who know's when to spend $250 as opposed to
sitting on the crapper for hours writing on toilet paper.

ANYBODY who knows what they are doing, knows when to call for
assistance. ANYBODY who doesn't think that Microsoft PSS is worth a few
hundred dollars isn't worth their time. 

It's completely idiotic to think that you know more than the thousands
of PSS reps who have access to case histories that aren't available
outside of the company and that you have access to more knowledgeable
people than those who wrote the code.

Last and not least, any company that boasts that they have 50+ MCSEs on
their payroll is not high on my list. Good consultants get their MCSE as
an aside with no training. 

And then again a company who only has one MCSE on their IT staff.

And then again a company who doesn't think that having a premier support
level is worth $120,000


And most stupid of all, a company who doesn't think that outside
resources are needed when they are a consulting firm??? That's a pretty
stupid concept. If your clients believed in the same thing that you seem
to, then you wouldn't have any clients.

As far as Exchange is concerned, there is NO ONE that understands
EVERYTHING that there is to know about Exchange. I can prove that very
quickly and very easily. And there is NO WAY that a large majority of
Exchange can be figured out sitting in the bathroom writing on toilet
paper.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:48 PM
Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt
Conversation: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


First of all, why did you change the header. 

Secondly, we have been able to fix all the problems we've had. In a
pervious thread, I said how MS wanted $120,000 a year for the PSS
program. Do you have any idea how hard that is to sell to management
with the talent we have. We're not a stupid company, I just want to fix
everything within the IS group so WE (read that my group) don't look
stupid.

BWT, I'm the only MCSE in IS and Exchange isn't one of my
certifications.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


That sure puts a whole lot of faith in a certification, and none in
Microsoft's internal Knowledge Base...

Drew

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-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


You don't think I don't know that!

I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and when we needed
outside help, they gave us a pencil and told us to go into the bathroom
and 'work it out.'

All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have about 50+ MCSE's
working for us in various areas of the company. If on of my staff or I
can't fix it, someone in our company should be able to.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Wow...someone has issues.
Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another tool (and a
very important one) in any knowledgable admin's toolbox.

J

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM
To: 

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-10-01 Thread Neil Hobson

Ditto here.
 
I've called PSS quite a few times, and I'm called a, gasp, consultant!
And a re-certified MCSE on w2k.  Double-gasp!  I know William has
already mentioned this, but I'd just like to let everyone know that I
didn't write the source code either.  ;-)
 
Neil

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 01 October 2001 14:19
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users email ?
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users email ?



Absolutely well said Kevin! 

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:05 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


In my world it is part of doing your job. no one knows
everything. If 
you don't call tech support when you need to. And you worked for
my high 
tech company, you would be fired. 

Sounds like a sign of weakness and arrogance. No badge of honor
to me. I 
have called PSS a few times learned a great deal every time was
totally 
worth it. 

Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA 
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-Original Message- 
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:24 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a
sign of not 
knowing your job. 

Greg 


-Original Message- 
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


Most of us use them on a per call basis. 


-Original Message- 
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to
start. That's 
a lot for a 200 person company. 

Greg 


-Original Message- 
From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


MS's Support Services. 
Premier support service. 

Just another acronym. 

-Original Message- 
From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


PSS?  Never heard of them..  still a newbie to the admin world



-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:17 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


I would highly advise you to call PSS. If anyone can fix this,
they can. 
If your execs email is as important as they think it is, they
will be 
willing to fork over the $245 

Seriously, Call them 

-Original Message- 
From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:20 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


the backups had an unfortunete accident.  Long story..  
I just heard about Exmerge and am reading about it right now... 

Will it make a difference that the old server is pointing the
home 
mailserver to the new one? 


-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:03 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a
users 
email ? 


Restore from an old backup to a restore server, Exmerge the data
out 

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-10-01 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?



LOL!!

-Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 7:26 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is it possible 
to open the edb file and recover a users email ?
Yes, 
but they disguise their voice when they call.

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 
  10:11 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?
  That's nice. But keep in mind that some of the folks on 
  this list either wrote or edited the books your 50+ MCSE's used to pass their 
  tests. And sometimes they have to call PSS. 
  -Original Message- From: Greg 
  Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  You don't think I don't know that! 
  I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and when we 
  needed outside help, they gave us a pencil and told us 
  to go into the bathroom and 'work it out.' 
  All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have about 
  50+ MCSE's working for us in various areas of the 
  company. If on of my staff or I can't fix it, someone 
  in our company should be able to. 
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  
  Wow...someone has issues. Knowing 
  where and when to get expert advice is just another tool (and a very 
  important one) in any knowledgable admin's toolbox. 
  
  J 
  -Original Message- From: Greg 
  Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a 
  sign of not knowing your job. 
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  
  Most of us use them on a per call basis. 
  -Original Message- From: Greg 
  Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to 
  start. That's a lot for a 200 person company. 
  
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: David 
  James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  
  MS's Support Services. Premier support 
  service. 
  Just another acronym. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  
  PSS? Never heard of them.. still a newbie to 
  the admin world 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  I would highly advise you to call PSS. If anyone can fix this, 
  they can. If your execs email is as important as they 
  think it is, they will be willing to fork over the 
  $245 
  Seriously, Call them 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:20 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  
  the backups had an unfortunete accident. Long 
  story.. I just heard about Exmerge and am 
  reading about it right now... 
  Will it make a difference that the old server is pointing the 
  home mailserver to the new one? 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  Restore from an old backup to a restore server, Exmerge the 
  data out to a PST? 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:04 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  
  Heh sorry.. I've posted this a few times and never got a 
  response.. 

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-10-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
Title: Message



A 
leather mask with a rubber ball in your mouth isn't a 
disguise

  
  -Original Message-From: Don Ely 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 
  7:40 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is it 
  possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?
  Yeah, I put on a disguise too... ;o)
  

-Original Message-From: Arnold, Jamie 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 
7:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is it 
possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
?
Yes, but they disguise their voice when they 
call.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 01, 
  2001 10:11 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
  ?
  That's nice. But keep in mind that some of the folks 
  on this list either wrote or edited the books your 50+ MCSE's used to pass 
  their tests. And sometimes they have to call PSS. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 4:30 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  You don't think I don't know that! 
  I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and when 
  we needed outside help, they gave us a pencil and 
  told us to go into the bathroom and 'work it out.' 
  All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have 
  about 50+ MCSE's working for us in various areas 
  of the company. If on of my staff or I can't fix 
  it, someone in our company should be able to. 
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  Wow...someone has issues. Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another tool 
  (and a very important one) in any knowledgable 
  admin's toolbox. 
  J 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered 
  a sign of not knowing your job. 
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  Most of us use them on a per call basis. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: 
  Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ? 
  
  A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to 
  start. That's a lot for a 200 person 
  company. 
  Greg 
  -Original Message- From: 
  David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  MS's Support Services. Premier 
  support service. 
  Just another acronym. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  PSS? Never heard of them.. still a newbie 
  to the admin world 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:17 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  I would highly advise you to call PSS. If anyone can fix 
  this, they can. If your execs email is as 
  important as they think it is, they will be willing to fork over the $245 
  Seriously, Call them 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:20 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
  users email ? 
  the backups had an unfortunete accident. Long 
  story.. I just heard about Exmerge and am 
  reading about it right now... 
  Will it make a difference that the old server is pointing 
  the home 

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-10-01 Thread John Matteson
Title: Message



I 
thought we had gotten away from the leather, whips and 
chains.

John Matteson; Exchange 
ManagerGeac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and 
Standards(404) 239 - 2981 You're just jealous because the little voices only talk to 
*ME*! 

  -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 01, 
  2001 12:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is 
  it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
  ?
  A 
  leather mask with a rubber ball in your mouth isn't a 
  disguise
  

-Original Message-From: Don Ely 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 
7:40 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is it 
possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
?
Yeah, I put on a disguise too... ;o)

  
  -Original Message-From: Arnold, 
  Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 
  2001 7:26 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
  ?
  Yes, but they disguise their voice when they 
  call.
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 01, 
2001 10:11 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email 
?
That's nice. But keep in mind that some of the 
folks on this list either wrote or edited the books your 50+ MCSE's used 
to pass their tests. And sometimes they have to call PSS. 

-Original Message- From: 
Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 4:30 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
users email ? 
You don't think I don't know that! 
I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and 
when we needed outside help, they gave us a 
pencil and told us to go into the bathroom and 'work it out.' 
All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have 
about 50+ MCSE's working for us in various areas 
of the company. If on of my staff or I can't fix 
it, someone in our company should be able to. 
Greg 
-Original Message- From: 
Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 
PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
users email ? 
Wow...someone has issues. Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another tool 
(and a very important one) in any knowledgable 
admin's toolbox. 
J 
-Original Message- From: 
Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
users email ? 
In a high tech company, calling tech support is 
considered a sign of not knowing your 
job. 
Greg 
-Original Message- From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
users email ? 
Most of us use them on a per call basis. 
-Original Message- From: 
Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
users email ? 
A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us 
to start. That's a lot for a 200 person 
company. 
Greg 
-Original Message- From: 
David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
users email ? 
MS's Support Services. Premier 
support service. 
Just another acronym. 
-Original Message- From: 
Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
users email ? 
PSS? Never heard of them.. still a 
newbie to the admin world 
-Original Message- From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:17 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a 
users email ? 
I would 

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-09-30 Thread Lefkovics, William

Yes, this list can be considered a tool, much like tech support.

Would I accuse you of not being able to do your job participating here?
Probably not. 

I don't care if your company has ALL the MCSE's.  Very few of them wrote the
friggin' products.  The diversity of Microsoft's products alone does not
allow for knowing everything.  Or even remotely close.




-Original Message-
From: Greg Page
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 9/29/01 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

Mine, and I sure as h*ll don't like it. See the answer to Jamie Arnold's
message. 

To be quite honest with all of you, the first time I saw Exchange was 10
months ago when the company moving into the building hired me to run
their
corporate network. I did Notes before. That's one of the many reasons
this
list, and others, is so valuable.

William - check out our web site to see how technical we are. We're not
just
a support or services company.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 2:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


What kind of job description holds the title must know everything?

I'm not sure what high tech companies you're talking about, but wasting
time
figuring out something that a tech phone call could have solved hours
ago is
bad practice.  Vendor Tech support is one of the tools at your disposal
for
troubleshooting, especially when it comes to software.  

Software has bugs.  Generally most bugs aren't even discovered until
after
release.  Often they are communicated to the software vendor through
tech
support calls.


William Lefkovics, WLKMMAS, MCSE, A+ 



-Original Message-
From: Greg Page
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 9/28/01 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?

In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a sign of not
knowing your job.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Most of us use them on a per call basis.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to start. That's
a
lot for a 200 person company.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-09-30 Thread Clark, Steve

Agreed 100%. Used to work around people that wouldn't ask for help as they
saw it as a flaw. Don't understand the perspective at all.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 5:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

Yes, this list can be considered a tool, much like tech support.

Would I accuse you of not being able to do your job participating here?
Probably not.

I don't care if your company has ALL the MCSE's.  Very few of them wrote the
friggin' products.  The diversity of Microsoft's products alone does not
allow for knowing everything.  Or even remotely close.




-Original Message-
From: Greg Page
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 9/29/01 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

Mine, and I sure as h*ll don't like it. See the answer to Jamie Arnold's
message.

To be quite honest with all of you, the first time I saw Exchange was 10
months ago when the company moving into the building hired me to run
their
corporate network. I did Notes before. That's one of the many reasons
this
list, and others, is so valuable.

William - check out our web site to see how technical we are. We're not
just
a support or services company.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 2:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


What kind of job description holds the title must know everything?

I'm not sure what high tech companies you're talking about, but wasting
time
figuring out something that a tech phone call could have solved hours
ago is
bad practice.  Vendor Tech support is one of the tools at your disposal
for
troubleshooting, especially when it comes to software. 

Software has bugs.  Generally most bugs aren't even discovered until
after
release.  Often they are communicated to the software vendor through
tech
support calls.


William Lefkovics, WLKMMAS, MCSE, A+



-Original Message-
From: Greg Page
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 9/28/01 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?

In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a sign of not
knowing your job.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Most of us use them on a per call basis.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to start. That's
a
lot for a 200 person company.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-09-30 Thread Arnold, Jamie

I don't agree with your premise that if you can't solve something on your
own you must be stupid.  If management believes that it may be party due to
you propagating the idea.  Additionally, having MCSEs on staff is not
something I'd brag about here.  I know lots of certificate holders that
can't get it done in the real world.

J

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


First of all, why did you change the header. 

Secondly, we have been able to fix all the problems we've had. In a pervious
thread, I said how MS wanted $120,000 a year for the PSS program. Do you
have any idea how hard that is to sell to management with the talent we
have. We're not a stupid company, I just want to fix everything within the
IS group so WE (read that my group) don't look stupid.

BWT, I'm the only MCSE in IS and Exchange isn't one of my certifications.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


That sure puts a whole lot of faith in a certification, and none in
Microsoft's internal Knowledge Base...

Drew

If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each
other. (Mother Theresa)

KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html
Pics of Max are BACK!  http://www.drewncapris.net

I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's
only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil.
William Gibson

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


You don't think I don't know that!

I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and when we needed outside
help, they gave us a pencil and told us to go into the bathroom and 'work it
out.'

All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have about 50+ MCSE's
working for us in various areas of the company. If on of my staff or I can't
fix it, someone in our company should be able to.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


Wow...someone has issues.
Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another tool (and a very
important one) in any knowledgable admin's toolbox.

J

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a sign of not
knowing your job.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


Most of us use them on a per call basis.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to start. That's a
lot for a 200 person company.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


MS's Support Services.
Premier support service.

Just another acronym.

-Original Message-
From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


PSS?  Never heard of them..  still a newbie to the admin world


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


I would highly advise you to call PSS. If anyone can fix this, they can. If
your execs email is as important as they think it is, they will be willing
to fork over the $245

Seriously, Call them

-Original Message-
From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-09-30 Thread Woodrick, Ed

Just remind me to never order services from your company. I'd much
rather go with a company who know's when to spend $250 as opposed to
sitting on the crapper for hours writing on toilet paper.

ANYBODY who knows what they are doing, knows when to call for
assistance. ANYBODY who doesn't think that Microsoft PSS is worth a few
hundred dollars isn't worth their time. 

It's completely idiotic to think that you know more than the thousands
of PSS reps who have access to case histories that aren't available
outside of the company and that you have access to more knowledgeable
people than those who wrote the code.

Last and not least, any company that boasts that they have 50+ MCSEs on
their payroll is not high on my list. Good consultants get their MCSE as
an aside with no training. 

And then again a company who only has one MCSE on their IT staff.

And then again a company who doesn't think that having a premier support
level is worth $120,000


And most stupid of all, a company who doesn't think that outside
resources are needed when they are a consulting firm??? That's a pretty
stupid concept. If your clients believed in the same thing that you seem
to, then you wouldn't have any clients.

As far as Exchange is concerned, there is NO ONE that understands
EVERYTHING that there is to know about Exchange. I can prove that very
quickly and very easily. And there is NO WAY that a large majority of
Exchange can be figured out sitting in the bathroom writing on toilet
paper.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:48 PM
Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt
Conversation: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


First of all, why did you change the header. 

Secondly, we have been able to fix all the problems we've had. In a
pervious thread, I said how MS wanted $120,000 a year for the PSS
program. Do you have any idea how hard that is to sell to management
with the talent we have. We're not a stupid company, I just want to fix
everything within the IS group so WE (read that my group) don't look
stupid.

BWT, I'm the only MCSE in IS and Exchange isn't one of my
certifications.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


That sure puts a whole lot of faith in a certification, and none in
Microsoft's internal Knowledge Base...

Drew

If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to
each other. (Mother Theresa)

KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html
Pics of Max are BACK!  http://www.drewncapris.net

I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's
only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or
evil. William Gibson

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


You don't think I don't know that!

I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and when we needed
outside help, they gave us a pencil and told us to go into the bathroom
and 'work it out.'

All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have about 50+ MCSE's
working for us in various areas of the company. If on of my staff or I
can't fix it, someone in our company should be able to.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Wow...someone has issues.
Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another tool (and a
very important one) in any knowledgable admin's toolbox.

J

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a sign of not
knowing your job.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Most of us use them on a per call basis.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to start. That's
a lot for a 

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-09-30 Thread Mark L. Kelsay

Very well said.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Just remind me to never order services from your company. I'd much
rather go with a company who know's when to spend $250 as opposed to
sitting on the crapper for hours writing on toilet paper.

ANYBODY who knows what they are doing, knows when to call for
assistance. ANYBODY who doesn't think that Microsoft PSS is worth a few
hundred dollars isn't worth their time. 

It's completely idiotic to think that you know more than the thousands
of PSS reps who have access to case histories that aren't available
outside of the company and that you have access to more knowledgeable
people than those who wrote the code.

Last and not least, any company that boasts that they have 50+ MCSEs on
their payroll is not high on my list. Good consultants get their MCSE as
an aside with no training. 

And then again a company who only has one MCSE on their IT staff.

And then again a company who doesn't think that having a premier support
level is worth $120,000


And most stupid of all, a company who doesn't think that outside
resources are needed when they are a consulting firm??? That's a pretty
stupid concept. If your clients believed in the same thing that you seem
to, then you wouldn't have any clients.

As far as Exchange is concerned, there is NO ONE that understands
EVERYTHING that there is to know about Exchange. I can prove that very
quickly and very easily. And there is NO WAY that a large majority of
Exchange can be figured out sitting in the bathroom writing on toilet
paper.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:48 PM
Posted To: Exchange Sunbelt
Conversation: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


First of all, why did you change the header. 

Secondly, we have been able to fix all the problems we've had. In a
pervious thread, I said how MS wanted $120,000 a year for the PSS
program. Do you have any idea how hard that is to sell to management
with the talent we have. We're not a stupid company, I just want to fix
everything within the IS group so WE (read that my group) don't look
stupid.

BWT, I'm the only MCSE in IS and Exchange isn't one of my
certifications.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


That sure puts a whole lot of faith in a certification, and none in
Microsoft's internal Knowledge Base...

Drew

If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to
each other. (Mother Theresa)

KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html
Pics of Max are BACK!  http://www.drewncapris.net

I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's
only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or
evil. William Gibson

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


You don't think I don't know that!

I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and when we needed
outside help, they gave us a pencil and told us to go into the bathroom
and 'work it out.'

All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have about 50+ MCSE's
working for us in various areas of the company. If on of my staff or I
can't fix it, someone in our company should be able to.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Wow...someone has issues.
Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another tool (and a
very important one) in any knowledgable admin's toolbox.

J

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a sign of not
knowing your job.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users
email ?


Most of us use them on a per call basis.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Page 

RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?

2001-09-29 Thread Greg Page

Yes. Since we're are salaried and very well compensated (according to mgmt),
our time is not an additional expense. Hey, we're a startup, surviving the
dot com crash. 

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


I didn't change the header, I hit reply...

You _do_ know that you can get support from Microsoft for the low low price
of $225 a call, right?

Drew

If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each
other. (Mother Theresa)

KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html
Pics of Max are BACK!  http://www.drewncapris.net

* Second Law of Business Meetings: If there are two possible ways to spell a
person's name, you will pick the wrong one.  Corollary - If there is only
one way to spell a name, you will spell it wrong anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


First of all, why did you change the header.

Secondly, we have been able to fix all the problems we've had. In a pervious
thread, I said how MS wanted $120,000 a year for the PSS program. Do you
have any idea how hard that is to sell to management with the talent we
have. We're not a stupid company, I just want to fix everything within the
IS group so WE (read that my group) don't look stupid.

BWT, I'm the only MCSE in IS and Exchange isn't one of my certifications.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


That sure puts a whole lot of faith in a certification, and none in
Microsoft's internal Knowledge Base...

Drew

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-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 6:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


You don't think I don't know that!

I used to work for the Henry J. Krapper Company, and when we needed outside
help, they gave us a pencil and told us to go into the bathroom and 'work it
out.'

All kidding aside, the attitude at work is that we have about 50+ MCSE's
working for us in various areas of the company. If on of my staff or I can't
fix it, someone in our company should be able to.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


Wow...someone has issues.
Knowing where and when to get expert advice is just another tool (and a very
important one) in any knowledgable admin's toolbox.

J

-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


In a high tech company, calling tech support is considered a sign of not
knowing your job.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


Most of us use them on a per call basis.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


A very pricey acronym. They wanted $120K a year from us to start. That's a
lot for a 200 person company.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users email ?


MS's Support Services.
Premier support service.

Just another acronym.

-Original Message-
From: Victor Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to open the edb file and recover a users