RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

2002-06-18 Thread Steve Ens
Title: Message



Gettin 
jiggy wit it...

  
  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:00 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Life Insurance 
  Spam with strange addressing
  Has anyone seen a recent crop of Life Insurance 
  spam coming in with strange addressing? Last week we received the 2 emails. 
  Normally I wouldn't be concerned with spam like this, but if I look at the 
  addressing it is coming from a valid address (of course it has to be of two 
  executives...) and then delivering to staff.  The first message reads 
  from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but was delivered to staff. The second 
  message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and again was delivered 
  to staff. The thing that really makes me wonder is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] no 
  longer works here and her email address is hidden from the address 
  book.
  The headers indicate that the messages are coming 
  from our mail server, but obviously we aren't sending our self spam. Is there 
  a way to spoof this? Possibly a worm?
  I've found references to the subject lines on 
  Google, but no one mentions the addressing issue, only that it is spam. 
  
  These are the subjects: $250,000 policy for only $8.50/month! Best Life Insurance, Lowest Cost. 
  Thanks, 
  William L. Smith Systems Administrator Riptech, Inc. Real-Time Information Protection 2800 Eisenhower Avenue Alexandria, 
  VA 22314 http://www.riptech.com 
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RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

2002-06-18 Thread Purviance, Chad
Title: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing









William

    Review
the actual header of the message (View, Options, Internet
Headers) and see where it really originated and if it even used your system. It
is a common practice now to send mail to you from you.

 

CJP

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:00
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Life Insurance Spam with
strange addressing

 

 

Has anyone seen a recent crop of Life Insurance spam
coming in with strange addressing? Last week we received the 2 emails. Normally
I wouldn't be concerned with spam like this, but if I look at the addressing it
is coming from a valid address (of course it has to be of two executives...)
and then delivering to staff.  The first message reads from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but was delivered to staff. The second
message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and again was delivered
to staff. The thing that really makes me wonder is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] no
longer works here and her email address is hidden from the address book.

The headers indicate that the messages are coming
from our mail server, but obviously we aren't sending our self spam. Is there a
way to spoof this? Possibly a worm?

I've found references to the subject lines on Google,
but no one mentions the addressing issue, only that it is spam. 

These are the subjects: 
$250,000
policy for only $8.50/month! 
Best
Life Insurance, Lowest Cost. 

Thanks, 

 

William L. Smith 
Systems
Administrator 
Riptech, Inc. 
Real-Time Information
Protection 
2800
Eisenhower Avenue 
Alexandria,
VA 22314 
http://www.riptech.com

w:
(703) 373-5158 
c: 
(703) 946-0894 
f:  
(703) 373-6158 
e: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

2002-06-18 Thread Beasley, Phil
Title: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing



We are 
experiencing the same problems here
 
R/Phil

  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:00 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Life Insurance 
  Spam with strange addressing
  Has anyone seen a recent crop of Life Insurance 
  spam coming in with strange addressing? Last week we received the 2 emails. 
  Normally I wouldn't be concerned with spam like this, but if I look at the 
  addressing it is coming from a valid address (of course it has to be of two 
  executives...) and then delivering to staff.  The first message reads 
  from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but was delivered to staff. The second 
  message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and again was delivered 
  to staff. The thing that really makes me wonder is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] no 
  longer works here and her email address is hidden from the address 
  book.
  The headers indicate that the messages are coming 
  from our mail server, but obviously we aren't sending our self spam. Is there 
  a way to spoof this? Possibly a worm?
  I've found references to the subject lines on 
  Google, but no one mentions the addressing issue, only that it is spam. 
  
  These are the subjects: $250,000 policy for only $8.50/month! Best Life Insurance, Lowest Cost. 
  Thanks, 
  William L. Smith Systems Administrator Riptech, Inc. Real-Time Information Protection 2800 Eisenhower Avenue Alexandria, 
  VA 22314 http://www.riptech.com 
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RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

2002-06-18 Thread William Smith
Title: Message



Ok.  I misread one of the lines in the header. The 
messages are indeed coming from another source (one hosted by Cogent the other 
won't resolve) hitting our fw then exchange.  I can see the idea of 
addressing to me from me, but how would this explain that the messages appear to 
have gone to staff, unless they did it one by one. Also not my staff 
mailing/distro lists are not accessible from the 
outside.
Thanks for your input,
W 

  
  -Original Message-From: Purviance, Chad 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 
  12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Life 
  Insurance Spam with strange addressing
  
  William
      
  Review the actual header of the message (View, Options, Internet Headers) and see where it really originated and if 
  it even used your system. It is a common practice now to send mail to you from 
  you.
   
  CJP
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:00 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Life Insurance Spam with strange 
  addressing
   
   
  Has anyone seen a recent crop of 
  Life Insurance spam coming in with strange addressing? Last week we received 
  the 2 emails. Normally I wouldn't be concerned with spam like this, but if I 
  look at the addressing it is coming from a valid address (of course it has to 
  be of two executives...) and then delivering to staff.  The first message 
  reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but was delivered to staff. The 
  second message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and again was 
  delivered to staff. The thing that really makes me wonder is that 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer works here and her email address is hidden from the 
  address book.
  The headers indicate that the 
  messages are coming from our mail server, but obviously we aren't sending our 
  self spam. Is there a way to spoof this? Possibly a 
  worm?
  I've found references to the 
  subject lines on Google, but no one mentions the addressing issue, only that 
  it is spam. 
  These are the 
  subjects: $250,000 policy for only 
  $8.50/month! Best Life Insurance, Lowest 
  Cost. 
  Thanks, 
  
   
  William L. Smith 
  Systems 
  Administrator Riptech, 
  Inc. Real-Time 
  Information Protection 2800 Eisenhower 
  Avenue Alexandria, VA 
  22314 http://www.riptech.com 
  w: (703) 373-5158 
  c:  (703) 
  946-0894 f:   (703) 
  373-6158 e:  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

2002-06-18 Thread William Smith
Title: Message



all 
the time.
W 

  
  -Original Message-From: Steve Ens 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:03 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Life 
  Insurance Spam with strange addressing
  Gettin jiggy wit it...
  

-Original Message-From: William Smith 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:00 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Life Insurance 
Spam with strange addressing
Has anyone seen a recent crop of Life Insurance 
spam coming in with strange addressing? Last week we received the 2 emails. 
Normally I wouldn't be concerned with spam like this, but if I look at the 
addressing it is coming from a valid address (of course it has to be of two 
executives...) and then delivering to staff.  The first message reads 
from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but was delivered to staff. The 
second message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and again was 
delivered to staff. The thing that really makes me wonder is that 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer works here and her email address is hidden from the 
address book.
The headers indicate that the messages are coming 
from our mail server, but obviously we aren't sending our self spam. Is 
there a way to spoof this? Possibly a worm?
I've found references to the subject lines on 
Google, but no one mentions the addressing issue, only that it is 
spam. 
These are the subjects: $250,000 policy for only $8.50/month! Best Life Insurance, Lowest Cost. 
Thanks, 
William L. Smith Systems Administrator Riptech, Inc. Real-Time Information Protection 2800 Eisenhower Avenue Alexandria, VA 22314 http://www.riptech.com w: (703) 373-5158 c:  (703) 
946-0894 f:   (703) 
373-6158 e:  
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RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

2002-06-18 Thread Bunting, Jeff
Title: Message



and 
why would you think it wasn't sent to everyone individually?
 
 -Original Message-From: 
William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 
1:19 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Life 
Insurance Spam with strange addressing

  Ok.  I misread one of the lines in the header. 
  The messages are indeed coming from another source (one hosted by Cogent the 
  other won't resolve) hitting our fw then exchange.  I can see the 
  idea of addressing to me from me, but how would this explain that the messages 
  appear to have gone to staff, unless they did it one by one. Also not my staff 
  mailing/distro lists are not accessible from the 
  outside.
  Thanks for your input,
  W 
  

-Original Message-From: Purviance, 
Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 
18, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
    RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

William
    
Review the actual header of the message (View, Options, Internet Headers) and see where it really originated and 
if it even used your system. It is a common practice now to send mail to you 
from you.
 
CJP
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:00 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Life Insurance Spam with 
strange addressing
 
 
Has anyone seen a recent crop of 
Life Insurance spam coming in with strange addressing? Last week we received 
the 2 emails. Normally I wouldn't be concerned with spam like this, but if I 
look at the addressing it is coming from a valid address (of course it has 
to be of two executives...) and then delivering to staff.  The first 
message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but was delivered to 
staff. The second message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 
again was delivered to staff. The thing that really makes me wonder is that 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer works here and her email address is hidden from the 
address book.
The headers indicate that the 
messages are coming from our mail server, but obviously we aren't sending 
our self spam. Is there a way to spoof this? Possibly a 
worm?
I've found references to the 
subject lines on Google, but no one mentions the addressing issue, only that 
it is spam. 
These are the 
subjects: $250,000 policy for only 
$8.50/month! Best Life Insurance, Lowest 
Cost. 
Thanks, 

 
William L. Smith 
Systems 
Administrator Riptech, 
Inc. Real-Time 
Information Protection 2800 Eisenhower 
Avenue Alexandria, VA 
22314 http://www.riptech.com 
w: (703) 
373-5158 c:  (703) 
946-0894 f:   (703) 
373-6158 e:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

2002-06-18 Thread William Smith
Title: Message



I 
suppose it would be easy enough to send one by one or import a batch 
to bcc.
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Bunting, Jeff 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:33 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Life 
  Insurance Spam with strange addressing
  and 
  why would you think it wasn't sent to everyone 
  individually?
   
   -Original 
  Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:19 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Life 
  Insurance Spam with strange addressing
  
Ok.  I misread one of the lines in the header. 
The messages are indeed coming from another source (one hosted by Cogent the 
other won't resolve) hitting our fw then exchange.  I can see the 
idea of addressing to me from me, but how would this explain that the 
messages appear to have gone to staff, unless they did it one by one. Also 
not my staff mailing/distro lists are not accessible from the 
outside.
Thanks for your input,
W 

  
  -Original Message-From: Purviance, 
  Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 
  18, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange 
  addressing
  
  William
      
  Review the actual header of the message (View, Options, Internet Headers) and see where it really originated 
  and if it even used your system. It is a common practice now to send mail 
  to you from you.
   
  CJP
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:00 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Life Insurance Spam with 
  strange addressing
   
   
  Has anyone seen a recent crop 
  of Life Insurance spam coming in with strange addressing? Last week we 
  received the 2 emails. Normally I wouldn't be concerned with spam like 
  this, but if I look at the addressing it is coming from a valid address 
  (of course it has to be of two executives...) and then delivering to 
  staff.  The first message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] but was delivered to staff. The second message reads from 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and again was delivered to staff. The 
  thing that really makes me wonder is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer works 
  here and her email address is hidden from the address 
  book.
  The headers indicate that the 
  messages are coming from our mail server, but obviously we aren't sending 
  our self spam. Is there a way to spoof this? Possibly a 
  worm?
  I've found references to the 
  subject lines on Google, but no one mentions the addressing issue, only 
  that it is spam. 
  These are the 
  subjects: $250,000 policy for only 
  $8.50/month! Best Life Insurance, Lowest 
  Cost. 
  Thanks, 
  
   
  William L. 
  Smith Systems 
  Administrator Riptech, 
  Inc. Real-Time 
  Information Protection 2800 Eisenhower 
  Avenue Alexandria, VA 
  22314 http://www.riptech.com 
  w: (703) 
  373-5158 c:  (703) 
  946-0894 f:   (703) 
  373-6158 e:  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

2002-06-18 Thread Carl Houseman
Title: Message



Would you clarify 
"gone to staff"?   Are you quite certain that EVERY individual on 
"staff" has received the identical spam?  I mean ask each and very one of 
them, or check message tracking in Exchange.   The logs should also be 
able to tell you whether you got 50 copies of the message for 50 recipients, or 
1 copy that got to 50 people.  If only one copy came in and 50 people got 
it, then your DL is available to the outside world.  Do your DLs have 
Internet addresses?
 
Carl
 

  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:19 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Life 
  Insurance Spam with strange addressing
  Ok.  I misread one of the lines in the header. 
  The messages are indeed coming from another source (one hosted by Cogent the 
  other won't resolve) hitting our fw then exchange.  I can see the 
  idea of addressing to me from me, but how would this explain that the messages 
  appear to have gone to staff, unless they did it one by one. Also not my staff 
  mailing/distro lists are not accessible from the 
  outside.
  Thanks for your input,
  W 
  

-Original Message-From: Purviance, 
Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 
18, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
    RE: Life Insurance Spam with strange addressing

William
    
Review the actual header of the message (View, Options, Internet Headers) and see where it really originated and 
if it even used your system. It is a common practice now to send mail to you 
from you.
 
CJP
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:00 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Life Insurance Spam with 
strange addressing
 
 
Has anyone seen a recent crop of 
Life Insurance spam coming in with strange addressing? Last week we received 
the 2 emails. Normally I wouldn't be concerned with spam like this, but if I 
look at the addressing it is coming from a valid address (of course it has 
to be of two executives...) and then delivering to staff.  The first 
message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but was delivered to 
staff. The second message reads from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 
again was delivered to staff. The thing that really makes me wonder is that 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer works here and her email address is hidden from the 
address book.
The headers indicate that the 
messages are coming from our mail server, but obviously we aren't sending 
our self spam. Is there a way to spoof this? Possibly a 
worm?
I've found references to the 
subject lines on Google, but no one mentions the addressing issue, only that 
it is spam. 
These are the 
subjects: $250,000 policy for only 
$8.50/month! Best Life Insurance, Lowest 
Cost. 
Thanks, 

 
William L. Smith 
Systems 
Administrator Riptech, 
Inc. Real-Time 
Information Protection 2800 Eisenhower 
Avenue Alexandria, VA 
22314 http://www.riptech.com 
w: (703) 
373-5158 c:  (703) 
946-0894 f:   (703) 
373-6158 e:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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