RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-10 Thread Paul Hutchings 
Yeah I can't find much reference on Google/MSFT forums either.  Anyway, both 
servers are now uninstalled and I'm still here and it's still working, don't 
know what all the fuss was about :)

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 10 August 2011 15:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'm forced to say that I've never seen either of those issues.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

OK so far so good.  Walked in this morning to some errors - seems my OAB had 
randomly set the generation server name to "Public Folder Database" rather than 
the name of the 2010 server (which it has been for weeks).

So I changed that, regenerated OAB, restarted FDS which then bitched about 
missing group metrics and sure enough my 
\\server\groupmetrics share, which was there, 
had mysteriously disappeared.  Restarting the Exchange Host Service recreated 
that though.

Are these little niggles normal/expected?!  The old boxes are still switched 
off.
From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:38
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Thanks, having read that there are no gaps, which is nice!
From: Steve Ens 
[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]>
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:25
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Make a good backup, it's the uninstall of Exchange that actually removes the 
appropriate AD settings...just follow the the documentation...
Straight from MBS...
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2009/05/04/removing-the-last-exchange-2003-server.aspx

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Steve.  I'm comfortable with having gotten all the mailboxes/PF 
instances off the servers.  It's more that nagging paranoia about anything 
floating about in the schema/adsi, plus all those fun things where even in 
Exchange 2010 it depends on legacy items remaining (don't delete your empty 
Admnistrative Groups etc.).
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:17

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that directory, 
so it is possible to recover if necessary...
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done barring 
uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They're switched off right now and I 
plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is still turning.

I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know the 
drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!

Paul
From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 15:41

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

There are none in your case. Just do it. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'd appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.

I've gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange 2003 
servers prior to removing them.

I've not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database though 
they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).

I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a few 
days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC's and 
uninstall - sound sensible?

Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:

http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration

I'm a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the 2003 
servers still have their PF databases.

Thanks,
Paul

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RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-10 Thread Michael B. Smith 
I'm forced to say that I've never seen either of those issues.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

OK so far so good.  Walked in this morning to some errors - seems my OAB had 
randomly set the generation server name to "Public Folder Database" rather than 
the name of the 2010 server (which it has been for weeks).

So I changed that, regenerated OAB, restarted FDS which then bitched about 
missing group metrics and sure enough my 
\\server\groupmetrics share, which was there, 
had mysteriously disappeared.  Restarting the Exchange Host Service recreated 
that though.

Are these little niggles normal/expected?!  The old boxes are still switched 
off.
From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:38
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Thanks, having read that there are no gaps, which is nice!
From: Steve Ens 
[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]>
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:25
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Make a good backup, it's the uninstall of Exchange that actually removes the 
appropriate AD settings...just follow the the documentation...
Straight from MBS...
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2009/05/04/removing-the-last-exchange-2003-server.aspx

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Steve.  I'm comfortable with having gotten all the mailboxes/PF 
instances off the servers.  It's more that nagging paranoia about anything 
floating about in the schema/adsi, plus all those fun things where even in 
Exchange 2010 it depends on legacy items remaining (don't delete your empty 
Admnistrative Groups etc.).
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:17

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that directory, 
so it is possible to recover if necessary...
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done barring 
uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They're switched off right now and I 
plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is still turning.

I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know the 
drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!

Paul
From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 15:41

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

There are none in your case. Just do it. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'd appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.

I've gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange 2003 
servers prior to removing them.

I've not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database though 
they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).

I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a few 
days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC's and 
uninstall - sound sensible?

Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:

http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration

I'm a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the 2003 
servers still have their PF databases.

Thanks,
Paul

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RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-10 Thread Paul Hutchings 
OK so far so good.  Walked in this morning to some errors - seems my OAB had 
randomly set the generation server name to "Public Folder Database" rather than 
the name of the 2010 server (which it has been for weeks).

So I changed that, regenerated OAB, restarted FDS which then bitched about 
missing group metrics and sure enough my 
\\server\groupmetrics share, which was there, 
had mysteriously disappeared.  Restarting the Exchange Host Service recreated 
that though.

Are these little niggles normal/expected?!  The old boxes are still switched 
off.

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:38
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Thanks, having read that there are no gaps, which is nice!
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:25
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Make a good backup, it's the uninstall of Exchange that actually removes the 
appropriate AD settings...just follow the the documentation...
Straight from MBS...
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2009/05/04/removing-the-last-exchange-2003-server.aspx

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Steve.  I'm comfortable with having gotten all the mailboxes/PF 
instances off the servers.  It's more that nagging paranoia about anything 
floating about in the schema/adsi, plus all those fun things where even in 
Exchange 2010 it depends on legacy items remaining (don't delete your empty 
Admnistrative Groups etc.).
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:17

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that directory, 
so it is possible to recover if necessary...
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done barring 
uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They're switched off right now and I 
plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is still turning.

I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know the 
drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!

Paul
From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 15:41

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

There are none in your case. Just do it. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'd appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.

I've gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange 2003 
servers prior to removing them.

I've not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database though 
they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).

I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a few 
days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC's and 
uninstall - sound sensible?

Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:

http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration

I'm a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the 2003 
servers still have their PF databases.

Thanks,
Paul

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Registered in England and Wales No. 402570
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Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-09 Thread Steve Ens 
My deepest apologies, your Highness...

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Webster  wrote:

>  You forgot the newly appointed word “Saint” in front of MBS.  Tsk, tsk.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:25 AM
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
>  ** **
>
> Make a good backup, it's the uninstall of Exchange that actually removes
> the appropriate AD settings...just follow the the documentation...
>
> Straight from MBS...
>
>
> http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2009/05/04/removing-the-last-exchange-2003-server.aspx
> 
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Hutchings 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Steve.  I’m comfortable with having gotten all the mailboxes/PF
> instances off the servers.  It’s more that nagging paranoia about anything
> floating about in the schema/adsi, plus all those fun things where even in
> Exchange 2010 it depends on legacy items remaining (don’t delete your empty
> Admnistrative Groups etc.).
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 09 August 2011 16:17
>
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
>  
>
> Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that
> directory, so it is possible to recover if necessary...
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done
> barring uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They’re switched off right
> now and I plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is
> still turning.
>
>  
>
> I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know
> the drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!****
>
>  
>
> Paul
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* 09 August 2011 15:41
>
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
>  
>
> There are none in your case. Just do it. J
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
>  
>
> I’d appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.
>
>  
>
> I’ve gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange
> 2003 servers prior to removing them.
>
>  
>
> I’ve not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database
> though they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).
>
>  
>
> I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a
> few days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC’s
> and uninstall – sound sensible?
>
>  
>
> Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:
>
>  
>
>
> http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration
> 
>
>  
>
> I’m a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the
> 2003 servers still have their PF databases.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul 
>  --
>
> *MIRA Ltd*
>
>  
>
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>
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>
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>
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RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-09 Thread Paul Hutchings 
Thanks, having read that there are no gaps, which is nice!

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:25
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Make a good backup, it's the uninstall of Exchange that actually removes the 
appropriate AD settings...just follow the the documentation...
Straight from MBS...
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2009/05/04/removing-the-last-exchange-2003-server.aspx

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Steve.  I'm comfortable with having gotten all the mailboxes/PF 
instances off the servers.  It's more that nagging paranoia about anything 
floating about in the schema/adsi, plus all those fun things where even in 
Exchange 2010 it depends on legacy items remaining (don't delete your empty 
Admnistrative Groups etc.).
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:17

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that directory, 
so it is possible to recover if necessary...
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done barring 
uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They're switched off right now and I 
plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is still turning.

I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know the 
drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!

Paul
From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 15:41

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

There are none in your case. Just do it. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'd appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.

I've gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange 2003 
servers prior to removing them.

I've not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database though 
they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).

I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a few 
days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC's and 
uninstall - sound sensible?

Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:

http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration

I'm a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the 2003 
servers still have their PF databases.

Thanks,
Paul

MIRA Ltd

Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England
Registered in England and Wales No. 402570
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RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-09 Thread Webster 
You forgot the newly appointed word "Saint" in front of MBS.  Tsk, tsk.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Make a good backup, it's the uninstall of Exchange that actually removes the 
appropriate AD settings...just follow the the documentation...
Straight from MBS...
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2009/05/04/removing-the-last-exchange-2003-server.aspx

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Steve.  I'm comfortable with having gotten all the mailboxes/PF 
instances off the servers.  It's more that nagging paranoia about anything 
floating about in the schema/adsi, plus all those fun things where even in 
Exchange 2010 it depends on legacy items remaining (don't delete your empty 
Admnistrative Groups etc.).
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:17

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that directory, 
so it is possible to recover if necessary...
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done barring 
uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They're switched off right now and I 
plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is still turning.

I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know the 
drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!

Paul
From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 15:41

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

There are none in your case. Just do it. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'd appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.

I've gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange 2003 
servers prior to removing them.

I've not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database though 
they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).

I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a few 
days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC's and 
uninstall - sound sensible?

Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:

http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration

I'm a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the 2003 
servers still have their PF databases.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-09 Thread Steve Ens 
Make a good backup, it's the uninstall of Exchange that actually removes the
appropriate AD settings...just follow the the documentation...
Straight from MBS...
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2009/05/04/removing-the-last-exchange-2003-server.aspx


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Hutchings
wrote:

>  Thanks Steve.  I’m comfortable with having gotten all the mailboxes/PF
> instances off the servers.  It’s more that nagging paranoia about anything
> floating about in the schema/adsi, plus all those fun things where even in
> Exchange 2010 it depends on legacy items remaining (don’t delete your empty
> Admnistrative Groups etc.).
>
> 
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 09 August 2011 16:17
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
> ** **
>
> Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that
> directory, so it is possible to recover if necessary...
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done
> barring uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They’re switched off right
> now and I plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is
> still turning.
>
>  
>
> I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know
> the drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!
>
>  
>
> Paul
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* 09 August 2011 15:41
>
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
>  
>
> There are none in your case. Just do it. J
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
>  
>
> I’d appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.
>
>  
>
> I’ve gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange
> 2003 servers prior to removing them.
>
>  
>
> I’ve not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database
> though they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).
>
>  
>
> I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a
> few days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC’s
> and uninstall – sound sensible?
>
>  
>
> Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:
>
>  
>
>
> http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration
> 
>
>  
>
> I’m a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the
> 2003 servers still have their PF databases.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul 
>  --
>
> *MIRA Ltd*
>
>  
>
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>
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>
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RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-09 Thread Paul Hutchings 
Thanks Steve.  I'm comfortable with having gotten all the mailboxes/PF 
instances off the servers.  It's more that nagging paranoia about anything 
floating about in the schema/adsi, plus all those fun things where even in 
Exchange 2010 it depends on legacy items remaining (don't delete your empty 
Admnistrative Groups etc.).

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:17
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that directory, 
so it is possible to recover if necessary...
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done barring 
uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They're switched off right now and I 
plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is still turning.

I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know the 
drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!

Paul
From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: 09 August 2011 15:41

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

There are none in your case. Just do it. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'd appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.

I've gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange 2003 
servers prior to removing them.

I've not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database though 
they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).

I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a few 
days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC's and 
uninstall - sound sensible?

Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:

http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration

I'm a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the 2003 
servers still have their PF databases.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-09 Thread Steve Ens 
Even if you uninstall your Exchange, the edbs and logs stay in that
directory, so it is possible to recover if necessary...

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Paul Hutchings wrote:

>  Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done
> barring uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They’re switched off right
> now and I plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is
> still turning.
>
> ** **
>
> I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know
> the drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!
>
> ** **
>
> Paul
>
> 
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* 09 August 2011 15:41
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
>  ** **
>
> There are none in your case. Just do it. J
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?
>
> ** **
>
> I’d appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.
>
> ** **
>
> I’ve gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange
> 2003 servers prior to removing them.
>
> ** **
>
> I’ve not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database
> though they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).
>
> ** **
>
> I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a
> few days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC’s
> and uninstall – sound sensible?
>
> ** **
>
> Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I’m a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the
> 2003 servers still have their PF databases.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul 
>  --
>
> *MIRA Ltd*
>
> ** **
>
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>
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RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-09 Thread Paul Hutchings 
Thanks Michael, already have.  Right now in theory everything is done barring 
uninstalling the two old Exchange boxes.  They're switched off right now and I 
plan on leaving them a day or so just to be sure the world is still turning.

I feel like I should be apologising for being overly cautious but you know the 
drill, small changes can = mob + pitchforks!

Paul

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 15:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

There are none in your case. Just do it. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings 
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]<mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'd appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.

I've gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange 2003 
servers prior to removing them.

I've not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database though 
they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).

I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a few 
days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC's and 
uninstall - sound sensible?

Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:

http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration

I'm a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the 2003 
servers still have their PF databases.

Thanks,
Paul

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RE: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

2011-08-09 Thread Michael B. Smith 
There are none in your case. Just do it. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving the Public Folder Hierarchy?

I'd appreciate a bit of a sanity check please.

I've gone through all the steps that I know of to de-configure my Exchange 2003 
servers prior to removing them.

I've not yet removed the mailbox databases and Public Folder database though 
they are empty (no mailboxes, no PF instances).

I was planning next on shutting down the 2 old servers (FE and BE) for a few 
days to ensure nothing breaks, then bring them back up, remove the RGC's and 
uninstall - sound sensible?

Also, prior to doing this should I follow the steps in this article:

http://exchangeserverpro.com/moving-the-public-folder-hierarchy-during-an-exchange-2007-migration

I'm a bit unclear if there are any implications with doing this whilst the 2003 
servers still have their PF databases.

Thanks,
Paul

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