RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-23 Thread Mitchell Mike

I now two accounts.  One on each server.  They have the same name Mike
Mitchell (although the display name is different one has ORG so I can tell
them apart) and they are owned by the same NT account (therefore they share
the same password).

I have added both of them to the profile on the Outlook ICON.

The instruction state:

2. Log on as the Site Services Account and setup an Outlook profile to
access both the original mailbox, and the newly created one,
simultaneously.

How is that done?  When I do what I thought I was supposed to do, under
delivery tab I only on account to choose from, 
the Original one.  It has none under that and I can't change that. How
do I change that from old to new?

Also, how do I sign onto both accounts at once?  I added the new mailbox
to the folder list.  Is that what is meant?

What am I doing wrong?  Please help me.

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


You need to create one account with the same name and password on each
server that has these rights.

--Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Kevin,

I am not understanding something in this article.  Would you please
explain it better for me?

In the following:

2. Log on as the Site Services Account and setup an Outlook profile to
access both the original mailbox, and the newly created one,
simultaneously.

How is that done?  When I do what I thought I was supposed to do, under
delivery tab I only on account to choose from, 
the Original one.  It has none under that and I can't change that. How
do I change that from old to new?

Also, how do I sign onto both accounts at once?  I added the new mailbox
to the folder list.  Is that what is meant?

Thanks for all the help. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


This is the best method I have found
http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete the
account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then Exmerge the data
back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the person (I.e. a
person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they re-address the
message)

It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  


*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server.

 The organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I 
 would like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder
 to the other
 sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-18 Thread Mitchell Mike

Kevin,

I am not understanding something in this article.  Would you please explain
it better for me?

In the following:

2. Log on as the Site Services Account and setup an Outlook profile to
access both the original mailbox, and the newly created one, simultaneously.

How is that done?  When I do what I thought I was supposed to do, under
delivery tab I only on account to choose from, 
the Original one.  It has none under that and I can't change that. How do I
change that from old to new?

Also, how do I sign onto both accounts at once?  I added the new mailbox to
the folder list.  Is that what is meant?

Thanks for all the help. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


This is the best method I have found
http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete the
account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then Exmerge the data
back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the person (I.e. a
person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they re-address the
message)

It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  


*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I have created several organizational units on my Exchange
 5.5 server. The
 organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would
 like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder 
 to the other
 sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-18 Thread Kevin Miller

You need to create one account with the same name and password on each
server that has these rights.

--Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Kevin,

I am not understanding something in this article.  Would you please
explain it better for me?

In the following:

2. Log on as the Site Services Account and setup an Outlook profile to
access both the original mailbox, and the newly created one,
simultaneously.

How is that done?  When I do what I thought I was supposed to do, under
delivery tab I only on account to choose from, 
the Original one.  It has none under that and I can't change that. How
do I change that from old to new?

Also, how do I sign onto both accounts at once?  I added the new mailbox
to the folder list.  Is that what is meant?

Thanks for all the help. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


This is the best method I have found
http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete the
account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then Exmerge the data
back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the person (I.e. a
person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they re-address the
message)

It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  


*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server.

 The organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I 
 would like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder
 to the other
 sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-18 Thread Mitchell Mike

I need to sign onto two machines at once?  One on each machine. I have
created the new
account as you suggested. It has the same rights as the original account.
The only difference
is in the display name there is an orig to keep them separate in my mind.
(Also the SMTP is
different.)

Do I sign onto each account user the Service account user id and password?

I am so sorry.  Not even my techie understands.


Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


You need to create one account with the same name and password on each
server that has these rights.

--Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Kevin,

I am not understanding something in this article.  Would you please
explain it better for me?

In the following:

2. Log on as the Site Services Account and setup an Outlook profile to
access both the original mailbox, and the newly created one,
simultaneously.

How is that done?  When I do what I thought I was supposed to do, under
delivery tab I only on account to choose from, 
the Original one.  It has none under that and I can't change that. How
do I change that from old to new?

Also, how do I sign onto both accounts at once?  I added the new mailbox
to the folder list.  Is that what is meant?

Thanks for all the help. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


This is the best method I have found
http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete the
account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then Exmerge the data
back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the person (I.e. a
person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they re-address the
message)

It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  


*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server.

 The organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I 
 would like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder
 to the other
 sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Ely, Don

HEYYY  You stole my idea!  I've been doing that for years...
;o)

Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Exactly.

I've been recommending three containers for 5.5:
Recipients
Distribution Lists
Custom Recipients

Use Address Book Views to restrict information from the clients.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


No. You will need to Exmerge the data out, delete and recreate the account.

Most of the long time admins will tell you that putting staff, etc into
different recip folders is a recipe for disaster and a complete waste of
your time. What happens when Susy moves from marketing to legal and you have
to delete her account. Organization is a constantly evolving (devolving?)
thing at most companies

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server. The
organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would like
to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder to the other sub
organizational folders. Can this be done?


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Erik Sojka

Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete the
account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then Exmerge the data
back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the person (I.e. a
person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they re-address the
message)

It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  


*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 
 5.5 server. The
 organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would
 like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder 
 to the other
 sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Kevin Miller

This is the best method I have found
http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete the
account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then Exmerge the data
back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the person (I.e. a
person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they re-address the
message)

It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  


*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I have created several organizational units on my Exchange
 5.5 server. The
 organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would
 like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder 
 to the other
 sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Erik Sojka

Wow.  Good article.  

So them MVPs know some stuff, huh?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:10 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 This is the best method I have found
 http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm
 
 --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
 http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, 
 delete the
 account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then 
 Exmerge the data
 back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the 
 person (I.e. a
 person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they 
 re-address the
 message)
 
 It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  
 
 
 *
 * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
 * Manager, Network Services *
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
 * 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  I have created several organizational units on my Exchange
  5.5 server. The
  organizational units divide our users into several 
 Recipients. I would
  like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder 
  to the other
  sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
  
  
  List Charter and FAQ at: 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread JENSEN, TIMOTHY C

Wouldn't the creation of an X.500 address on the new mailbox resolve the NDR
problem on emails sent prior to the move?

Tim Jensen
Cingular Wireless, Chicago

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete the
account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then Exmerge the data
back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the person (I.e. a
person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they re-address the
message)

It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  


*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I have created several organizational units on my Exchange
 5.5 server. The
 organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would
 like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder 
 to the other
 sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Kevin Miller

They certainly do ... That is the only real solution I have ever seen to
move between OU's. It is still no fun. I do not think he mentioned in
there, something William has learned the hard way, That the letters DN
OU CN and all the like are CASE SENSITIVE. So if you do mess with them
MAKE sure you do not change the case. Else ADC and Exchange migrations
will be no fun. Not that ADC is ever fun.

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Wow.  Good article.  

So them MVPs know some stuff, huh?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:10 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 This is the best method I have found 
 http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm
 
 --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/

 For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD,
 delete the
 account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then 
 Exmerge the data
 back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the 
 person (I.e. a
 person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they 
 re-address the
 message)
 
 It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.
 
 
 *
 * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
 * Manager, Network Services *
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
 *
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 
  server. The organizational units divide our users into several
 Recipients. I would
  like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder
  to the other
  sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
  
  
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Erik Sojka

The old message still contains the pointers to the old address (i.e. when
replying, a new lookup isn't automatically performed).  

And that makes sense;  to perform another lookup against the GAL or Contacts
folder would add some unnecessry load to the server.  It's reasonable for
Outlook to assume that nothing has changed with the recipients' address(es)
when replying to a message.  


*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
* 

 -Original Message-
 From: JENSEN, TIMOTHY C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Wouldn't the creation of an X.500 address on the new mailbox 
 resolve the NDR
 problem on emails sent prior to the move?
 
 Tim Jensen
 Cingular Wireless, Chicago
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:08 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, 
 delete the
 account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then 
 Exmerge the data
 back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the 
 person (I.e. a
 person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they 
 re-address the
 message)
 
 It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.  
 
 
 *
 * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
 * Manager, Network Services *
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
 * 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  I have created several organizational units on my Exchange
  5.5 server. The
  organizational units divide our users into several 
 Recipients. I would
  like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder 
  to the other
  sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
  
  
  List Charter and FAQ at: 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Martin Blackstone

Great solution. But as you can see, it is still a lot of work. To me it just
ads fuel to the fire of why NOT to use containers

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


They certainly do ... That is the only real solution I have ever seen to
move between OU's. It is still no fun. I do not think he mentioned in there,
something William has learned the hard way, That the letters DN OU CN and
all the like are CASE SENSITIVE. So if you do mess with them MAKE sure you
do not change the case. Else ADC and Exchange migrations will be no fun. Not
that ADC is ever fun.

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For
Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Wow.  Good article.  

So them MVPs know some stuff, huh?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:10 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 This is the best method I have found
 http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm
 
 --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/

 For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete 
 the account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then
 Exmerge the data
 back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the 
 person (I.e. a
 person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they 
 re-address the
 message)
 
 It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.
 
 
 *
 * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
 * Manager, Network Services *
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
 *
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5
  server. The organizational units divide our users into several
 Recipients. I would
  like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder to the 
  other sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
  
  
  List Charter and FAQ at: 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Erik Sojka

'tis good for cleaning up such a scenario, though.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:03 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Great solution. But as you can see, it is still a lot of 
 work. To me it just
 ads fuel to the fire of why NOT to use containers
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 They certainly do ... That is the only real solution I have 
 ever seen to
 move between OU's. It is still no fun. I do not think he 
 mentioned in there,
 something William has learned the hard way, That the letters 
 DN OU CN and
 all the like are CASE SENSITIVE. So if you do mess with them 
 MAKE sure you
 do not change the case. Else ADC and Exchange migrations will 
 be no fun. Not
 that ADC is ever fun.
 
 --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
 http://www.daughtry.ca/ For
 Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:19 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Wow.  Good article.  
 
 So them MVPs know some stuff, huh?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:10 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  This is the best method I have found
  http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm
  
  --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
 http://www.daughtry.ca/
 
  For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete 
  the account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then
  Exmerge the data
  back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the 
  person (I.e. a
  person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they 
  re-address the
  message)
  
  It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.
  
  
  *
  * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
  * Manager, Network Services *
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
  *
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
   
   
   I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5
   server. The organizational units divide our users into several
  Recipients. I would
   like to move these email accounts from the Recipients 
 folder to the 
   other sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
   
   
   List Charter and FAQ at: 
   http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
   
  
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
  
  
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Martin Blackstone

Agreed

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


'tis good for cleaning up such a scenario, though.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:03 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Great solution. But as you can see, it is still a lot of
 work. To me it just
 ads fuel to the fire of why NOT to use containers
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 They certainly do ... That is the only real solution I have
 ever seen to
 move between OU's. It is still no fun. I do not think he 
 mentioned in there,
 something William has learned the hard way, That the letters 
 DN OU CN and
 all the like are CASE SENSITIVE. So if you do mess with them 
 MAKE sure you
 do not change the case. Else ADC and Exchange migrations will 
 be no fun. Not
 that ADC is ever fun.
 
 --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
 http://www.daughtry.ca/ For
 Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:19 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Wow.  Good article.
 
 So them MVPs know some stuff, huh?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:10 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  This is the best method I have found 
  http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm
  
  --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
 http://www.daughtry.ca/
 
  For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete
  the account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then
  Exmerge the data
  back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the 
  person (I.e. a
  person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they 
  re-address the
  message)
  
  It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.
  
  
  *
  * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
  * Manager, Network Services *
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
  *
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
   
   
   I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 
   server. The organizational units divide our users into several
  Recipients. I would
   like to move these email accounts from the Recipients
 folder to the
   other sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
   
   
   List Charter and FAQ at:
   http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
   
  
  List Charter and FAQ at: 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
  
  
  List Charter and FAQ at: 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)

Of course, at this point, I would like to say that MailMover
(www.mailsoftware.co.uk) does everything in this article programmatically.
It also gets around the issue of updating profiles. 

Once you have a solution for this problem, making more use of containers
becomes logical for access control.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 April 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


They certainly do ... That is the only real solution I have ever seen to
move between OU's. It is still no fun. I do not think he mentioned in
there, something William has learned the hard way, That the letters DN
OU CN and all the like are CASE SENSITIVE. So if you do mess with them
MAKE sure you do not change the case. Else ADC and Exchange migrations
will be no fun. Not that ADC is ever fun.

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Wow.  Good article.  

So them MVPs know some stuff, huh?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:10 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 This is the best method I have found 
 http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm
 
 --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/

 For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD,
 delete the
 account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then 
 Exmerge the data
 back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the 
 person (I.e. a
 person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they 
 re-address the
 message)
 
 It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.
 
 
 *
 * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
 * Manager, Network Services *
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
 *
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 
  server. The organizational units divide our users into several
 Recipients. I would
  like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder
  to the other
  sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
  
  
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread KKerr

Martin,

Thanks for your response... your input about additional administrative
overhead associated with OUs has made me re-think a few things. 

Thanks again



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


No. You will need to Exmerge the data out, delete and recreate the account.

Most of the long time admins will tell you that putting staff, etc into
different recip folders is a recipe for disaster and a complete waste of
your time. What happens when Susy moves from marketing to legal and you have
to delete her account. Organization is a constantly evolving (devolving?)
thing at most companies

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server. The
organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would like
to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder to the other sub
organizational folders. Can this be done?


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Kevin Miller

If you want to store things in OU's then move to AD and 2k.. Is much
better.

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:09 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Martin,

Thanks for your response... your input about additional administrative
overhead associated with OUs has made me re-think a few things. 

Thanks again



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


No. You will need to Exmerge the data out, delete and recreate the
account.

Most of the long time admins will tell you that putting staff, etc into
different recip folders is a recipe for disaster and a complete waste of
your time. What happens when Susy moves from marketing to legal and you
have to delete her account. Organization is a constantly evolving
(devolving?) thing at most companies

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server.
The organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I
would like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder to
the other sub organizational folders. Can this be done?


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Mitchell Mike

Mailmover might be a good option but those people never follow up on
problems.  Isn't that right Kevin...

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


-Original Message-
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Of course, at this point, I would like to say that MailMover
(www.mailsoftware.co.uk) does everything in this article programmatically.
It also gets around the issue of updating profiles. 

Once you have a solution for this problem, making more use of containers
becomes logical for access control.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 April 2002 14:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


They certainly do ... That is the only real solution I have ever seen to
move between OU's. It is still no fun. I do not think he mentioned in
there, something William has learned the hard way, That the letters DN
OU CN and all the like are CASE SENSITIVE. So if you do mess with them
MAKE sure you do not change the case. Else ADC and Exchange migrations
will be no fun. Not that ADC is ever fun.

--Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Wow.  Good article.  

So them MVPs know some stuff, huh?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:10 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 This is the best method I have found 
 http://www.mvps.org/exchange/containermove_frames.htm
 
 --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/

 For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:08 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Nope.  Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD,
 delete the
 account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then 
 Exmerge the data
 back in.  This *will* break all existing pointers to the 
 person (I.e. a
 person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they 
 re-address the
 message)
 
 It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason.
 
 
 *
 * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
 * Manager, Network Services *
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
 *
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
  
  
  I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 
  server. The organizational units divide our users into several
 Recipients. I would
  like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder
  to the other
  sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
  
  
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-09 Thread Kent, Larry SYNETICS
Title: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5





One could use ExMS Move Mailbox Manager (MMM) http://www.discusdata.com/mmm/


-Original Message-
From: JENSEN, TIMOTHY C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5



Wouldn't the creation of an X.500 address on the new mailbox resolve the NDR
problem on emails sent prior to the move?


Tim Jensen
Cingular Wireless, Chicago


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5



Nope. Your only recourse is to Exmerge the mailbox to a CD, delete the
account, recreate a similar account in the new OU, then Exmerge the data
back in. This *will* break all existing pointers to the person (I.e. a
person replying to an message will get an NDR unless they re-address the
message)


It's normally not recommended to use OUs in 5.5 for this reason. 



*
* Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE *
* Manager, Network Services *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
* 


 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:42 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I have created several organizational units on my Exchange
 5.5 server. The
 organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would
 like to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder 
 to the other
 sub organizational folders. Can this be done?
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Blackstone

No. You will need to Exmerge the data out, delete and recreate the account.

Most of the long time admins will tell you that putting staff, etc into
different recip folders is a recipe for disaster and a complete waste of
your time. What happens when Susy moves from marketing to legal and you have
to delete her account. Organization is a constantly evolving (devolving?)
thing at most companies

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server. The
organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would like
to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder to the other sub
organizational folders. Can this be done?


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RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-08 Thread William Lefkovics

Exactly.

I've been recommending three containers for 5.5:
Recipients
Distribution Lists
Custom Recipients

Use Address Book Views to restrict information from the clients.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


No. You will need to Exmerge the data out, delete and recreate the account.

Most of the long time admins will tell you that putting staff, etc into
different recip folders is a recipe for disaster and a complete waste of
your time. What happens when Susy moves from marketing to legal and you have
to delete her account. Organization is a constantly evolving (devolving?)
thing at most companies

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server. The
organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would like
to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder to the other sub
organizational folders. Can this be done?


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

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RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Blackstone

Yep. I have 2. Recipients and Custom Mailboxes. The DL one is a good idea.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


Exactly.

I've been recommending three containers for 5.5:
Recipients
Distribution Lists
Custom Recipients

Use Address Book Views to restrict information from the clients.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


No. You will need to Exmerge the data out, delete and recreate the account.

Most of the long time admins will tell you that putting staff, etc into
different recip folders is a recipe for disaster and a complete waste of
your time. What happens when Susy moves from marketing to legal and you have
to delete her account. Organization is a constantly evolving (devolving?)
thing at most companies

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving users between OUs in Exchange 5.5


I have created several organizational units on my Exchange 5.5 server. The
organizational units divide our users into several Recipients. I would like
to move these email accounts from the Recipients folder to the other sub
organizational folders. Can this be done?


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
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