Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP address.
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something
similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my problems.
- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend.

A note on a blip I experienced:

I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP (I
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so that I
would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It worked
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc.

On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to resolve
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A well
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD NOO).
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care
about.

I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down.

I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink



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Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is correct
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an NT4
domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT list
so stop barking)


- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP address.
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something
similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my problems.
- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend.

A note on a blip I experienced:

I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP (I
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so that I
would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It worked
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc.

On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to resolve
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A well
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD NOO).
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care
about.

I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down.

I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-02 Thread Campbell, Rob

I think it's going to depend on how the WS is configured, particularly that
little checkbox that says "Use DNS for WINS resolution".

> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:28 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5
> 
> 
> Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? 
> WINS is correct
> and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take 
> precedence on an NT4
> domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this 
> to the NT list
> so stop barking)
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5
> 
> 
> Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the 
> old IP address.
> I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 
> or something
> similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most 
> of my problems.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM
> Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5
> 
> 
> As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend.
> 
> A note on a blip I experienced:
> 
> I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old 
> server's IP (I
> gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving 
> mailboxes so that I
> would not have to mess with router settings and such for the 
> NAT. It worked
> fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc.
> 
> On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail
> server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were 
> trying to resolve
> to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the 
> old POC. A well
> meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD 
> NOO).
> Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users 
> seem to care
> about.
> 
> I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down.
> 
> I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-02 Thread Andy David

Outlook name resolution.




-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is correct
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an NT4
domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT list
so stop barking)


- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP address.
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something
similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my problems.
- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend.

A note on a blip I experienced:

I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP (I
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so that I
would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It worked
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc.

On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to resolve
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A well
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD NOO).
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care
about.

I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down.

I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-02 Thread Don Guyer
Title: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5





Matthew,


    Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before trying WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further explanation.

Don Guyer
Information Systems
Citadel Federal Credit Union
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072
Fax: 610.380.6083
www.citadelfcu.org



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



Outlook name resolution.





-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5



Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is correct
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an NT4
domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT list
so stop barking)



- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5



Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP address.
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something
similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my problems.
- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5



As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend.


A note on a blip I experienced:


I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP (I
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so that I
would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It worked
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc.


On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to resolve
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A well
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD NOO).
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care
about.


I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down.


I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink




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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-02 Thread Andy David

NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution, i.e.
WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution (Hosts, DNS
etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other applications will use
to resolve.


-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Matthew, 
Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before trying
WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further explanation.
Don Guyer 
Information Systems 
Citadel Federal Credit Union 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 
Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 


-Original Message- 
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Outlook name resolution. 




-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is correct 
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an NT4

domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT list 
so stop barking) 


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP address. 
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something 
similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my problems. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM 
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend. 
A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP (I 
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so that I

would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It worked 
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc. 
On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail 
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to resolve 
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A well 
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD NOO). 
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care 
about. 
I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down. 
I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink 



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-02 Thread Brian Politis

But are the workstations NT?  I believe a 2000 workstation hits DNS
first then WINS.  It's not a network thing it's a workstation thing.  I
believe you can also alter the order by making a few reg edits.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution,
i.e. WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution
(Hosts, DNS etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other
applications will use to resolve.


-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Matthew, 
Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before
trying WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further
explanation. Don Guyer 
Information Systems 
Citadel Federal Credit Union 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 
Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 


-Original Message- 
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Outlook name resolution. 




-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is
correct 
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an
NT4

domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT
list 
so stop barking) 


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP
address. 
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something

similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my
problems. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM 
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend. 
A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP
(I 
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so
that I

would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It
worked 
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc. 
On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail 
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to
resolve 
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A
well 
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD
NOO). 
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care 
about. 
I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down. 
I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink 



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-02 Thread Benjamin Zachary

Don't forget that old NetBIOS node type in DHCP. P-node, M-node .. or
whatever it was to tell the dhcp client which order to process requests.



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-03 Thread Andy David

Well, its always a "workstation" thing isnt it? 
If the workstation is trying to resolve a netbios name to an ip address it
will use netbios over TCP/IP first whether its a NT 4 or W2k machine. The
method it does that is determined by its node type. 
If the workstation/application is trying to resolve a host name to an ip
address, it will use hosts and DNS first (i.e. Outlook connecting to the
Exchange Server)) whether its a NT4 or W2k machine.



-Original Message-
From: Brian Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


But are the workstations NT?  I believe a 2000 workstation hits DNS
first then WINS.  It's not a network thing it's a workstation thing.  I
believe you can also alter the order by making a few reg edits.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution,
i.e. WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution
(Hosts, DNS etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other
applications will use to resolve.


-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Matthew, 
Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before
trying WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further
explanation. Don Guyer 
Information Systems 
Citadel Federal Credit Union 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 
Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 


-Original Message- 
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Outlook name resolution. 




-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is
correct 
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an
NT4

domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT
list 
so stop barking) 


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP
address. 
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something

similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my
problems. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM 
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend. 
A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP
(I 
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so
that I

would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It
worked 
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc. 
On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail 
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to
resolve 
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A
well 
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD
NOO). 
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care 
about. 
I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down. 
I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink 



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-03 Thread Schwartz, Jim

I always blame the network.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Well, its always a "workstation" thing isnt it? 
If the workstation is trying to resolve a netbios name to an ip address it
will use netbios over TCP/IP first whether its a NT 4 or W2k machine. The
method it does that is determined by its node type. 
If the workstation/application is trying to resolve a host name to an ip
address, it will use hosts and DNS first (i.e. Outlook connecting to the
Exchange Server)) whether its a NT4 or W2k machine.



-Original Message-
From: Brian Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


But are the workstations NT?  I believe a 2000 workstation hits DNS
first then WINS.  It's not a network thing it's a workstation thing.  I
believe you can also alter the order by making a few reg edits.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution,
i.e. WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution
(Hosts, DNS etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other
applications will use to resolve.


-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Matthew, 
Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before
trying WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further
explanation. Don Guyer 
Information Systems 
Citadel Federal Credit Union 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 
Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 


-Original Message- 
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Outlook name resolution. 




-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is
correct 
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an
NT4

domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT
list 
so stop barking) 


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP
address. 
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something

similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my
problems. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM 
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend. 
A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP
(I 
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so
that I

would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It
worked 
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc. 
On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail 
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to
resolve 
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A
well 
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD
NOO). 
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care 
about. 
I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down. 
I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink 



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-03 Thread Ely, Don

I "Blame it on the Rain, yeah, yeah"

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


I always blame the network.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Well, its always a "workstation" thing isnt it? 
If the workstation is trying to resolve a netbios name to an ip address it
will use netbios over TCP/IP first whether its a NT 4 or W2k machine. The
method it does that is determined by its node type. 
If the workstation/application is trying to resolve a host name to an ip
address, it will use hosts and DNS first (i.e. Outlook connecting to the
Exchange Server)) whether its a NT4 or W2k machine.



-Original Message-
From: Brian Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


But are the workstations NT?  I believe a 2000 workstation hits DNS first
then WINS.  It's not a network thing it's a workstation thing.  I believe
you can also alter the order by making a few reg edits.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution, i.e.
WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution (Hosts, DNS
etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other applications will use
to resolve.


-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Matthew, 
Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before trying
WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further explanation. Don Guyer

Information Systems 
Citadel Federal Credit Union 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 
Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 


-Original Message- 
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Outlook name resolution. 




-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is correct 
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an NT4

domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT list 
so stop barking) 


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP address. 
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something

similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my problems. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM 
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend. 
A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP (I 
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so that I

would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It worked 
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc. 
On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail 
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to resolve 
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A well 
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD NOO). 
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care 
about. 
I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down. 
I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink 



List Charter and FAQ at: 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 



List Charter and FAQ at: 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-03 Thread Andy David




-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


I always blame the network.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Well, its always a "workstation" thing isnt it? 
If the workstation is trying to resolve a netbios name to an ip address it
will use netbios over TCP/IP first whether its a NT 4 or W2k machine. The
method it does that is determined by its node type. 
If the workstation/application is trying to resolve a host name to an ip
address, it will use hosts and DNS first (i.e. Outlook connecting to the
Exchange Server)) whether its a NT4 or W2k machine.



-Original Message-
From: Brian Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


But are the workstations NT?  I believe a 2000 workstation hits DNS
first then WINS.  It's not a network thing it's a workstation thing.  I
believe you can also alter the order by making a few reg edits.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution,
i.e. WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution
(Hosts, DNS etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other
applications will use to resolve.


-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Matthew, 
Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before
trying WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further
explanation. Don Guyer 
Information Systems 
Citadel Federal Credit Union 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 
Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 


-Original Message- 
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Outlook name resolution. 




-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is
correct 
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an
NT4

domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT
list 
so stop barking) 


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP
address. 
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something

similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my
problems. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM 
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend. 
A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP
(I 
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so
that I

would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It
worked 
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc. 
On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail 
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to
resolve 
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A
well 
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD
NOO). 
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care 
about. 
I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down. 
I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink 



List Charter and FAQ at: 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 



List Charter and FAQ at: 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 



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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-03 Thread David N. Precht

Don't quit the day job

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


I "Blame it on the Rain, yeah, yeah"

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


I always blame the network.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Well, its always a "workstation" thing isnt it? 
If the workstation is trying to resolve a netbios name to an ip address
it will use netbios over TCP/IP first whether its a NT 4 or W2k machine.
The method it does that is determined by its node type. 
If the workstation/application is trying to resolve a host name to an ip
address, it will use hosts and DNS first (i.e. Outlook connecting to the
Exchange Server)) whether its a NT4 or W2k machine.



-Original Message-
From: Brian Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


But are the workstations NT?  I believe a 2000 workstation hits DNS
first then WINS.  It's not a network thing it's a workstation thing.  I
believe you can also alter the order by making a few reg edits.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution,
i.e. WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution
(Hosts, DNS etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other
applications will use to resolve.


-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5


Matthew, 
Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before
trying WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further
explanation. Don Guyer

Information Systems 
Citadel Federal Credit Union 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 
Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 


-Original Message- 
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Outlook name resolution. 




-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is
correct 
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an
NT4

domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT
list 
so stop barking) 


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP
address. 
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something

similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my
problems. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM 
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 


As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend. 
A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP
(I 
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so
that I

would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It
worked 
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc. 
On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail 
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to
resolve 
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A
well 
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD
NOO). 
Bad form, but it worked at that moment, which is all users seem to care 
about. 
I plan to go back and fix this issue when things settle down. 
I just wanted to bring this up for posterity's sake. *wink 



List Charter and FAQ at: 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 



List Charter and FAQ at: 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 



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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 


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RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-03 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5





I always blame it on the DBA'sof course they are always trying to blame it on my servers, but it's never my server :)

Sherry Abercrombie
Data Center Administration Team
Information Technology
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."




-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



Don't quit the day job


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



I "Blame it on the Rain, yeah, yeah"


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



I always blame the network.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



Well, its always a "workstation" thing isnt it? 
If the workstation is trying to resolve a netbios name to an ip address it will use netbios over TCP/IP first whether its a NT 4 or W2k machine. The method it does that is determined by its node type. 

If the workstation/application is trying to resolve a host name to an ip address, it will use hosts and DNS first (i.e. Outlook connecting to the Exchange Server)) whether its a NT4 or W2k machine.



-Original Message-
From: Brian Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



But are the workstations NT?  I believe a 2000 workstation hits DNS first then WINS.  It's not a network thing it's a workstation thing.  I believe you can also alter the order by making a few reg edits.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution, i.e. WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution (Hosts, DNS etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other applications will use to resolve.


-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



Matthew, 
    Windows NT networks will try querying an DNS server before trying WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, for further explanation. Don Guyer

Information Systems 
Citadel Federal Credit Union 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 
Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 



-Original Message- 
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5 



Outlook name resolution. 





-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 



Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS is correct 
and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why does DNS take precedence on an NT4


domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to the NT list 
so stop barking) 



- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 



Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old IP address. 
I originally intended to make it separate and make it mail2 or something


similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of my problems. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM 
Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 



As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past weekend. 
A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the old server's IP (I 
gave the old one a completely different IP) after moving mailboxes so that I


would not have to mess with router settings and such for the NAT. It worked 
fine, because the DNS was still correct, mail came through, etc. 
On Monday, when people started Outlook and it looked for the new mail 
server, some users had issues with the new IP. They were trying to resolve 
to the old IP. I blew out WINS and it still looked for the old POC. A well 
meaning coworker added an LMHOSTS entry for the server (GOD NOO). 
Bad form, but it worked at

RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5

2002-07-03 Thread Scot Parsons
Title: RE: Note on moving Exch 5.5



I just 
blame everything on the users.
 
 
-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 11:15 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Note on moving 
Exch 5.5
I always blame it on the DBA'sof course they are always 
trying to blame it on my servers, but it's never my server :)
Sherry Abercrombie Data Center 
Administration Team Information Technology 
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." 

-Original Message- From: David 
N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
Don't quit the day job 
-Original Message- From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
I "Blame it on the Rain, yeah, yeah" 
-Original Message- From: 
Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
I always blame the network. 
-Original Message- From: Andy 
David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
Well, its always a "workstation" thing isnt it? If the workstation is trying to resolve a netbios name to an ip address 
it will use netbios over TCP/IP first whether its a NT 4 or W2k machine. The 
method it does that is determined by its node type. 
If the workstation/application is trying to resolve a host name 
to an ip address, it will use hosts and DNS first (i.e. Outlook connecting to 
the Exchange Server)) whether its a NT4 or W2k machine.
-Original Message- From: Brian 
Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
But are the workstations NT?  I believe a 2000 workstation 
hits DNS first then WINS.  It's not a network thing it's a workstation 
thing.  I believe you can also alter the order by making a few reg 
edits.
-Original Message- From: Andy 
David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
NT networks typically will use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name 
resolution, i.e. WINS before DNS. That article refers to host name resolution 
(Hosts, DNS etc... before WINS) which *Outlook* as well as other applications 
will use to resolve.
-Original Message- From: Don 
Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
Matthew,     Windows NT networks will try 
querying an DNS server before trying WINS, by default. See MS article Q172218, 
for further explanation. Don Guyer
Information Systems Citadel Federal 
Credit Union [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 800.666.0191 x7072 Fax: 610.380.6083 
www.citadelfcu.org 
-Original Message- From: Andy 
David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
Outlook name resolution. 
-Original Message- From: Matthew 
Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Note on 
moving Exch 5.5 
Can anyone elaborate on how that works on an NT 4 domain? WINS 
is correct and a conflicting DNS entry is there? Why 
does DNS take precedence on an NT4 
domain? I thought that was a 2K thing??? (I am sending this to 
the NT list so stop barking) 
- Original Message - From: 
"Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
"MS-Exchange Admin Issues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Note on moving Exch 5.5 
Well I found something. There was still a DNS entry for the old 
IP address. I originally intended to make it separate 
and make it mail2 or something 
similar in DNS. I removed the entry and it has cleared most of 
my problems. - Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Note on moving Exch 5.5 
As we have been discussing, I moved my mail server this past 
weekend. A note on a blip I experienced: 
I changed the internal IP on the new server to match the 
old server's IP (I gave the old one a completely 
different IP) after moving mailboxes so that I 
would not have to mess with router settings and such for the 
NAT. It worked fine, because the DNS was still correct, 
mail came through, etc. On Monday, when people started 
Outlook and it looked for the new mail server, some 
users had issues with the new IP. They