RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-18 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
I heard that straight-through router was wire-speed, so things are through 
in a flash

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking


At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his 2U in
a rack.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be
a straight-through router now though.

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-18 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
In his defense...it WAS a cold day.
TVK

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking
 
 At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his 
 2U in a rack.

You didn't see on TVK's wall (on FaceBook) where he said that Shook didn't have 
2U of equipment?


Webster


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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Shook
It's all about the size of the pipe, Kim...

Shook


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I heard that straight-through router was wire-speed, so things are through 
in a flash

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking


At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his 2U in
a rack.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be
a straight-through router now though.

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-18 Thread John Cook
Nano tubes don't really count as pipes..

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

It's all about the size of the pipe, Kim...

Shook


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I heard that straight-through router was wire-speed, so things are through 
in a flash

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking


At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his 2U in
a rack.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be
a straight-through router now though.

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-18 Thread Cameron Cooper
Could be performance issues.

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Nano tubes don't really count as pipes..

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

It's all about the size of the pipe, Kim...

Shook


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I heard that straight-through router was wire-speed, so things are
through in a flash

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking


At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his
2U in a rack.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be a
straight-through router now though.

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com
wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-18 Thread Campbell, Rob
Got buckyballs to go with that nano tube?

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

Nano tubes don't really count as pipes..

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

It's all about the size of the pipe, Kim...

Shook


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I heard that straight-through router was wire-speed, so things are through 
in a flash

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking


At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his 2U in
a rack.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be
a straight-through router now though.

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-18 Thread John Cook
His aren't the fullerene type..

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

Got buckyballs to go with that nano tube?

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

Nano tubes don't really count as pipes..

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

It's all about the size of the pipe, Kim...

Shook


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I heard that straight-through router was wire-speed, so things are through 
in a flash

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking


At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his 2U in
a rack.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be
a straight-through router now though.

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-18 Thread Don Andrews
ROFLMAO

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

In his defense...it WAS a cold day.
TVK

-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking
 
 At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his

 2U in a rack.

You didn't see on TVK's wall (on FaceBook) where he said that Shook
didn't have 2U of equipment?


Webster


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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Andy Shook
Dude,
I am a networking machine but then again, I'm not the quintessential IT Geek. 
:) Seriously, this is such a vital skill\practice for IT folk.  I can't speak 
for other metro areas but the IT circles of Charlotte, are really small; 
meaning the same names keep coming up with the big announcements.

I don't care what you know or how savvy your skill set is, it's all about WHO 
you know.

Shook

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for the 
quintessential IT Geek who doesn't mix well with regular people [Shook]) and 
they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these trying 
times.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now, 
networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn, 
whichever.

-Sam


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking
Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were 
doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along, and 
started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of the 
population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of social 
networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of if you 
can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC 
marv...@gmail.commailto:marv...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet for 
some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites like 
MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself that I 
just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals I know and 
meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split 
as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate perspective, while the 
other half see their evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie 
into a particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to 
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try 
to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create these solutions to try 
and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 
I've come to the conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin 
supporting an organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid 
in increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle 
while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved 
out of some side hole.
I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when 
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it was. 
So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I figure in 
another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be somewhere having a 
discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the corporate perspective.

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper 
ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com



Cameron,



It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you are 
replying to so others can follow the conversation.



Eric



From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it due to system 
resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com













--
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

-- Ben

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread John Cook
For once I couldn't agree with you more. The job market here is abysmal (total 
population just over 100,000 but it's far worse for Mr Hornbuckle) so I go to 
every conference, workshop and  vendor IT event that I can to meet as many 
people in the industry as possible, someday I'm not going to be the IT God here 
anymore and I'll still have to pay the bills.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

Dude,
I am a networking machine but then again, I'm not the quintessential IT Geek. 
:) Seriously, this is such a vital skill\practice for IT folk.  I can't speak 
for other metro areas but the IT circles of Charlotte, are really small; 
meaning the same names keep coming up with the big announcements.

I don't care what you know or how savvy your skill set is, it's all about WHO 
you know.

Shook

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for the 
quintessential IT Geek who doesn't mix well with regular people [Shook]) and 
they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these trying 
times.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now, 
networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn, 
whichever.

-Sam


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking
Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were 
doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along, and 
started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of the 
population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of social 
networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of if you 
can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC 
marv...@gmail.commailto:marv...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet for 
some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites like 
MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself that I 
just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals I know and 
meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split 
as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate perspective, while the 
other half see their evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie 
into a particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to 
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try 
to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create these solutions to try 
and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 
I've come to the conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin 
supporting an organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid 
in increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle 
while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved 
out of some side hole.
I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when 
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it was. 
So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I figure in 
another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be somewhere having a 
discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the corporate perspective.

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper 
ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com



Cameron,



It would be much more helpful if you included text from

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread James Rankin
May be completely unrelated to the IT side of this thread, but I just can't
bring myself to have a FB / Twitter / MySpace / whatever account because I
don't think I'd have the time to bother with it. I see people updating their
FB accounts when they are finished on the toilet or they have dropped their
wife off at the shops. I can't see why I would need to know that / let
others know that. Seems kinda pointless, and I'd much rather be drinking a
cold lager or reading a book than updating FaceBook with a picture of my cat
throwing up and the vital news that I have just stubbed my toe on the
kitchen door.

However I do use LinkedIn, that seems good for keeping in contact with old
work colleagues and generally sniffing for new openings.

2009/3/17 Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com

  Dude,

 I am a networking machine but then again, I’m not the quintessential IT
 Geek. J Seriously, this is such a vital skill\practice for IT folk.  I
 can’t speak for other metro areas but the IT circles of Charlotte, are
 really small; meaning the same names keep coming up with the big
 announcements.



 I don’t care what you know or how savvy your skill set is, it’s all about
 WHO you know.



 Shook



 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 3:32 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT: Social Networking



 I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for
 the quintessential IT Geek who doesn’t mix well with regular people [Shook])
 and they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these
 trying times.



 *John W. Cook*

 *Systems Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *315 SE 2nd Ave*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32601*

 *Office (352) 393-2741 x320*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *Fax (352) 393-2746*

 *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+*



 *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT: Social Networking



 To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
 networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn,
 whichever.



 -Sam


  --

 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Social Networking

 Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

 I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids
 were doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed
 along, and started discovering that it was definitely more for the older
 group of the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB
 account)

 It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
 social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of
 if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
 for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
 like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
 that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
 in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
 perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
 potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
 constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
 loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
 individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
 little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
 conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
 organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid in
 increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle
 while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be
 shoved out of some side hole.

 I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
 instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it
 was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I
 figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be
 somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the
 corporate perspective.



 ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...





 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
 wrote:

   Sorry,  sometimes I don’t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 *Cameron Cooper*

 *IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified*

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Sean Rector
+1

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

Dude,

I am a networking machine but then again, I'm not the quintessential IT
Geek. J Seriously, this is such a vital skill\practice for IT folk.  I
can't speak for other metro areas but the IT circles of Charlotte, are
really small; meaning the same names keep coming up with the big
announcements.

 

I don't care what you know or how savvy your skill set is, it's all
about WHO you know.   

 

Shook

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for
the quintessential IT Geek who doesn't mix well with regular people
[Shook]) and they were very determined that ANY networking was good
during these trying times. 

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
networking at any level is quite important right now.
Facebook/LinkedIn, whichever.

 

-Sam

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids
were doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I
followed along, and started discovering that it was definitely more for
the older group of the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law
has a FB account)  

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a
case of if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your
advantage.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content
yet for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on
sites like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've
convinced myself that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self
titled  professionals I know and meet use these as main communication
mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split as one half sees these as time
wasters from a corporate perspective, while the other half see their
evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie into a
particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own
ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create
these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years
in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the conslusion that I won't
get rich working as a sys admin supporting an organization who's user
base depends on the very tools that aid in increasing my administrative
overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle while hovering around that
glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved out of some side
hole. 

I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster
it was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of
messaging. I figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve
and I'll be somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster
it is from the corporate perspective. 

 

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

Cameron,

 

It would be much more helpful if you included text from the
posts that you are replying to so others can follow the conversation.

 

Eric

 

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it
due to system resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources
to run

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Candee Vaglica
And, to bring the conversation full circle:

Candee likes this

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
 +1



 Sean Rector, MCSE



 From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]

 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:52 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 Dude,

 I am a networking machine but then again, I’m not the quintessential IT
 Geek. J Seriously, this is such a vital skill\practice for IT folk.  I can’t
 speak for other metro areas but the IT circles of Charlotte, are really
 small; meaning the same names keep coming up with the big announcements.



 I don’t care what you know or how savvy your skill set is, it’s all about
 WHO you know.



 Shook



 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:32 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for the
 quintessential IT Geek who doesn’t mix well with regular people [Shook]) and
 they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these trying
 times.



 John W. Cook

 Systems Administrator

 Partnership For Strong Families

 315 SE 2nd Ave

 Gainesville, Fl 32601

 Office (352) 393-2741 x320

 Cell (352) 215-6944

 Fax (352) 393-2746

 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+



 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
 networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn,
 whichever.



 -Sam



 

 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

 Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

 I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were
 doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along,
 and started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of
 the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

 It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
 social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of
 if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
 for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
 like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
 that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
 in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
 perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
 potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
 constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
 loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
 individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
 little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
 conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
 organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid in
 increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle
 while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be
 shoved out of some side hole.

 I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
 instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it
 was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I
 figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be
 somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the
 corporate perspective.



 ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

 Sorry,  sometimes I don’t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you
 are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric



 From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]

 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM

 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 Installed it to see what it was about… but then uninstalled it due to system
 resources.  It’s a neat tool if you have enough resources to run

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread MarvinC
Kinda what I meant when I said I didn't relate.

This may sound crazy but I associate these particular items of leisure;
chat, IM, and now FB-mySpace-TW, with the following analogy:

Me standing in a hallway with doors on both sides of me. On each door is the
name of each tool including a sub-name for the particual subject. So I walk
to one door and see Twitter: CNN, another MySpce: Christy Canyon, and
another, etc etc. As I get closer to each door the sounds eminating from
within seem festive and inviting. Yet I continue down the hall until I come
to the remaining rooms. These rooms are quiet, inviting, and more to my
liking. I open the door and all I see are a buncha geeks huddled in circles
complaining about the noise coming from the other rooms. HA!!!

I know no one here is complaining I just couldn't resist adding that last
line. :-


On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:08 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 May be completely unrelated to the IT side of this thread, but I just can't
 bring myself to have a FB / Twitter / MySpace / whatever account because I
 don't think I'd have the time to bother with it. I see people updating their
 FB accounts when they are finished on the toilet or they have dropped their
 wife off at the shops. I can't see why I would need to know that / let
 others know that. Seems kinda pointless, and I'd much rather be drinking a
 cold lager or reading a book than updating FaceBook with a picture of my cat
 throwing up and the vital news that I have just stubbed my toe on the
 kitchen door.

 However I do use LinkedIn, that seems good for keeping in contact with old
 work colleagues and generally sniffing for new openings.

 2009/3/17 Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com

   Dude,

 I am a networking machine but then again, I’m not the quintessential IT
 Geek. J Seriously, this is such a vital skill\practice for IT folk.  I
 can’t speak for other metro areas but the IT circles of Charlotte, are
 really small; meaning the same names keep coming up with the big
 announcements.



 I don’t care what you know or how savvy your skill set is, it’s all about
 WHO you know.



 Shook



 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 3:32 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT: Social Networking



 I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for
 the quintessential IT Geek who doesn’t mix well with regular people [Shook])
 and they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these
 trying times.



 *John W. Cook*

 *Systems Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *315 SE 2nd Ave*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32601*

 *Office (352) 393-2741 x320*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *Fax (352) 393-2746*

 *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+*



 *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT: Social Networking



 To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
 networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn,
 whichever.



 -Sam


  --

 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Social Networking

 Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

 I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids
 were doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed
 along, and started discovering that it was definitely more for the older
 group of the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB
 account)

 It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
 social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of
 if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
 for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
 like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
 that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
 in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
 perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
 potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
 constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
 loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
 individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
 little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
 conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
 organization who's user base depends on the very tools

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be
a straight-through router now though.

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
I'm not sure that is true...I didn't see it on your wall. :-)


-Original Message-
From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:can...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

And, to bring the conversation full circle:

Candee likes this

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
 +1



 Sean Rector, MCSE



 From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]

 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:52 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 Dude,

 I am a networking machine but then again, I'm not the quintessential 
 IT Geek. J Seriously, this is such a vital skill\practice for IT folk.  
 I can't speak for other metro areas but the IT circles of Charlotte, 
 are really small; meaning the same names keep coming up with the big 
 announcements.



 I don't care what you know or how savvy your skill set is, it's all 
 about WHO you know.



 Shook



 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:32 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially 
 for the quintessential IT Geek who doesn't mix well with regular 
 people [Shook]) and they were very determined that ANY networking was 
 good during these trying times.



 John W. Cook

 Systems Administrator

 Partnership For Strong Families

 315 SE 2nd Ave

 Gainesville, Fl 32601

 Office (352) 393-2741 x320

 Cell (352) 215-6944

 Fax (352) 393-2746

 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+



 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right 
 now, networking at any level is quite important right now.  
 Facebook/LinkedIn, whichever.



 -Sam



 

 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

 Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

 I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my 
 kids were doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I 
 followed along, and started discovering that it was definitely more 
 for the older group of the population.  (My almost 80 year old 
 mother-in-law has a FB account)

 It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages 
 of social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's 
 a case of if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your 
 advantage.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content 
 yet for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account 
 on sites like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've 
 convinced myself that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  
 professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT 
 journeyman in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from 
 a corporate perspective, while the other half see their evolution for 
 what they are, potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer 
 need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to grow and break away 
 from the corporate loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap 
 into the mindset of the individuals that create these solutions to try 
 and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years in this field and 
 pushing 40 I've come to the conslusion that I won't get rich working 
 as a sys admin supporting an organization who's user base depends on 
 the very tools that aid in increasing my administrative overhead. If 
 anything I'm doomed to struggle while hovering around that glass 
 ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved out of some side hole.

 I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago 
 when instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time 
 waster it was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form 
 of messaging. I figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will 
 evolve and I'll be somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time 
 waster it is from the corporate perspective.



 ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

 Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that 
 you are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric



 From: Cameron Cooper

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
A switch-hitter perhaps. Since he does bat both ways.


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be a 
straight-through router now though.

--
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~


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Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Kurt Buff
Nothing that high up the stack.

He's a repeater.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 06:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
lol

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On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nothing that high up the stack.

 He's a repeater.

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 06:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread William Lefkovics
At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his 2U in
a rack.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I heard that in college, Shook was a closeted switch.  He seems to be
a straight-through router now though.

--
ME2



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 I am a networking machine ...

  Does that mean you're a switch or a router?

 -- Ben

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 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~


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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Cameron Cooper
That would be giving him too much credit.

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Aurico Reports, Inc
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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Webster
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking
 
 At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his
 2U in a rack.

You didn't see on TVK's wall (on FaceBook) where he said that Shook didn't
have 2U of equipment?


Webster


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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-17 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
Be careful, it is spring turkey season and there might be a hunting
accident.

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-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking
 
 At least you didn't say something about how he well he could mount his

 2U in a rack.

You didn't see on TVK's wall (on FaceBook) where he said that Shook
didn't have 2U of equipment?


Webster


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Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

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On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today referencing
 FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html

 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Webster
 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking
 
 Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

Shook always complains about you being such a good tease though.


Webster


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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
I know that ME2, it was just a good reason to post that article ;).

Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for
future reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where
I work, they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization
has several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How
much of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB
friends that are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think
that it extends the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we
have, and I think that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from
being an email address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a
personality.  Take Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to
someone with a real life and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem
human ;)

Ok, I've rambled on enough.  What do ya'll think?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

 --
 ME2



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today
 referencing
  FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.
 
  http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html
 
  --
  Sherry Abercrombie
 
  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
  Arthur C. Clarke
 
 

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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
It is a good article for sure, and somewhat of the same position I am
in.  At my current company its an absolutely neccessity for employee
candidate research. The ability to socialize and prove social
network-ability is paramount in my company's business.

I still block the streaming audio/video aspects of such sites though.
Well, except for me and my boss of course.  ;-)

--
ME2



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know that ME2, it was just a good reason to post that article ;).

 Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for
 future reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where
 I work, they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization
 has several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How
 much of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB
 friends that are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think
 that it extends the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we
 have, and I think that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from
 being an email address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a
 personality.  Take Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to
 someone with a real life and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem
 human ;)

 Ok, I've rambled on enough.  What do ya'll think?

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

 --
 ME2



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today
  referencing
  FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.
 
  http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html
 
  --
  Sherry Abercrombie
 
  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
  Arthur C. Clarke
 
 

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 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~



 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke



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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread James Kerr

Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for future 
reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where I work, 
they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization has 
several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How much 
of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB friends that 
are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think that it extends 
the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we have, and I think 
that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from being an email 
address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a personality.  Take 
Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to someone with a real life 
and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem almost human ;)

FTFY

James
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

--
ME2




On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today 
referencing
 FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html

 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke




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  -- 
  Sherry Abercrombie

  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
  Arthur C. Clarke



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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread KevinM
Do you use Xobni to look up people for you?

~Kevinm WLKMMAS
My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I agree completely...Don is goofy looking.

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I know that ME2, it was just a good reason to post that article ;).

Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for future 
reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where I work, 
they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization has 
several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How much 
of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB friends that 
are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think that it extends 
the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we have, and I think 
that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from being an email 
address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a personality.  Take 
Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to someone with a real life 
and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem human ;)

Ok, I've rambled on enough.  What do ya'll think?
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

--
ME2



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie 
saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today referencing
 FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html

 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



--
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke






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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Andy Shook
Lame.

Shook


-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking
 
 Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

Shook always complains about you being such a good tease though.


Webster


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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
I agree completely...Don is goofy looking.

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I know that ME2, it was just a good reason to post that article ;).

Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for future 
reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where I work, 
they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization has 
several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How much 
of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB friends that 
are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think that it extends 
the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we have, and I think 
that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from being an email 
address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a personality.  Take 
Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to someone with a real life 
and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem human ;)

Ok, I've rambled on enough.  What do ya'll think?
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

--
ME2



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie 
saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today referencing
 FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html

 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



--
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke



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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Jonathan Link
Not everyone can compete at your level.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:

 Lame.

 Shook


 -Original Message-
 From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

  -Original Message-
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
  Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking
 
  Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

 Shook always complains about you being such a good tease though.


 Webster


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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Can't say that I do.

From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

Do you use Xobni to look up people for you?

~Kevinm WLKMMAS
My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I agree completely...Don is goofy looking.

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I know that ME2, it was just a good reason to post that article ;).

Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for future 
reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where I work, 
they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization has 
several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How much 
of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB friends that 
are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think that it extends 
the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we have, and I think 
that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from being an email 
address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a personality.  Take 
Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to someone with a real life 
and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem human ;)

Ok, I've rambled on enough.  What do ya'll think?
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

--
ME2



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie 
saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today referencing
 FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html

 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



--
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke









~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Cameron Cooper
Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it due to
system resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources to run
it.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 


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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Eric Wittersheim
Cameron,

 

It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that
you are replying to so others can follow the conversation.

 

Eric

 

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it due to
system resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources to run
it.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

 

 


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Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Don Ely
Thanks Sherry...  :P

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote:

 I know that ME2, it was just a good reason to post that article ;).

 Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for
 future reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where
 I work, they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization
 has several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How
 much of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB
 friends that are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think
 that it extends the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we
 have, and I think that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from
 being an email address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a
 personality.  Take Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to
 someone with a real life and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem
 human ;)

 Ok, I've rambled on enough.  What do ya'll think?

  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

 --
 ME2



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today
 referencing
  FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.
 
  http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html
 
  --
  Sherry Abercrombie
 
  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
  Arthur C. Clarke
 
 

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~




 --
  Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke




~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Don Ely
PKB

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.comwrote:

  I agree completely…Don is goofy looking.



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 12:07 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Social Networking



 I know that ME2, it was just a good reason to post that article ;).

 Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for
 future reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where
 I work, they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization
 has several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How
 much of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB
 friends that are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think
 that it extends the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we
 have, and I think that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from
 being an email address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a
 personality.  Take Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to
 someone with a real life and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem
 human ;)

 Ok, I've rambled on enough.  What do ya'll think?

   On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

 --
 ME2




 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today
 referencing
  FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.
 
  http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html
 
  --
  Sherry Abercrombie
 
  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
  Arthur C. Clarke
 
 

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~




 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke






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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Touché...
And true.

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

PKB
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Tim Vander Kooi 
tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com wrote:

I agree completely...Don is goofy looking.



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking



I know that ME2, it was just a good reason to post that article ;).

Very interesting article in my opinion, one that I have bookmarked for future 
reference.  While social networking sites are not blocked here where I work, 
they are categorized as a time waster even though our organization has 
several high level execs that have profiles  several groups setup.  How much 
of a time waster is it really?   I have a very large number of FB friends that 
are from these Sunbelt lists, probably at least 50%.  I think that it extends 
the cooperativeness of this group and camaraderie that we have, and I think 
that is a very valuable thing.  It has taken someone from being an email 
address  name on a discussion list, to having a face and a personality.  Take 
Don Ely, he's a goofy looking mug (just kidding) to someone with a real life 
and a couple of good looking kidsmakes him seem human ;)

Ok, I've rambled on enough.  What do ya'll think?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

Uproar?  I was only teasing you!

--
ME2



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sherry Abercrombie 
saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, since I caused such an uproar with my other OT post today referencing
 FaceBook, here's an interesting ZDNet article about social networking.

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272809.html

 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



--
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke









~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Cameron Cooper
Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

Cameron,

 

It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that
you are replying to so others can follow the conversation.

 

Eric

 

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it due to
system resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources to run
it.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

 


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Kurt Buff
It's a good thing to trim your replies (gads how I wish more would do
that, though I must admit I'm inconsistent on the matter), but there
is a limit to it, at which point the reply loses context, and
therefore meaning.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:33, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:
 Sorry,  sometimes I don’t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you
 are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread MarvinC
I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid in
increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle
while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be
shoved out of some side hole.
I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it
was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I
figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be
somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the
corporate perspective.

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

  Sorry,  sometimes I don’t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 *Cameron Cooper*

 *IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified*

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you
 are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric



 *From:* Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT: Social Networking



 Installed it to see what it was about… but then uninstalled it due to
 system resources.  It’s a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



 _

 *Cameron Cooper*

 *IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified*

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com








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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread James Kerr
Sounds like a good post for your blog ;-)
  - Original Message - 
  From: MarvinC 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:15 PM
  Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking


  I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet 
for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites like 
MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself that I 
just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals I know and 
meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split 
as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate perspective, while the 
other half see their evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie 
into a particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to 
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try 
to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create these solutions to try 
and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 
I've come to the conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin 
supporting an organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid 
in increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle 
while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved 
out of some side hole. 
  I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when 
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it was. 
So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I figure in 
another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be somewhere having a 
discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the corporate perspective. 

  ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...


   
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don’t like having a huge list of replies.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com



Cameron,



It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you 
are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



Eric



From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



Installed it to see what it was about… but then uninstalled it due to 
system resources.  It’s a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com














~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were
doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along,
and started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of
the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of
if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
 for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
 like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
 that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
 in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
 perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
 potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
 constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
 loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
 individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
 little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
 conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
 organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid in
 increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle
 while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be
 shoved out of some side hole.
 I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
 instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it
 was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I
 figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be
 somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the
 corporate perspective.

 ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.comwrote:

  Sorry,  sometimes I don’t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 *Cameron Cooper*

 *IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified*

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you
 are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric



 *From:* Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT: Social Networking



 Installed it to see what it was about… but then uninstalled it due to
 system resources.  It’s a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



 _

 *Cameron Cooper*

 *IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified*

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com













-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
We will all know that FaceBook has truly come of age when Shook joins...


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were 
doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along, and 
started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of the 
population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of social 
networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of if you 
can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC 
marv...@gmail.commailto:marv...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet for 
some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites like 
MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself that I 
just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals I know and 
meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split 
as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate perspective, while the 
other half see their evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie 
into a particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to 
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try 
to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create these solutions to try 
and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 
I've come to the conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin 
supporting an organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid 
in increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle 
while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved 
out of some side hole.
I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when 
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it was. 
So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I figure in 
another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be somewhere having a 
discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the corporate perspective.

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper 
ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com



Cameron,



It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you are 
replying to so others can follow the conversation.



Eric



From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it due to system 
resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com













--
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke



~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Sam Cayze
To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
networking at any level is quite important right now.
Facebook/LinkedIn, whichever.
 
-Sam



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking


Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids
were doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I
followed along, and started discovering that it was definitely more for
the older group of the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law
has a FB account)  

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a
case of if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your
advantage.


On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:


I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh
content yet for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an
account on sites like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason
I've convinced myself that I just don't relate, yet I find that more
self titled  professionals I know and meet use these as main
communication mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split as one half sees
these as time wasters from a corporate perspective, while the other half
see their evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie into
a particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own
ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create
these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years
in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the conslusion that I won't
get rich working as a sys admin supporting an organization who's user
base depends on the very tools that aid in increasing my administrative
overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle while hovering around that
glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved out of some side
hole. 
I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years
ago when instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a
time waster it was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved
form of messaging. I figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will
evolve and I'll be somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time
waster it is from the corporate perspective. 
 
ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own
drums...


 
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper
ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:


Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of
replies.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

Cameron,

 

It would be much more helpful if you included text from
the posts that you are replying to so others can follow the
conversation.

 

Eric

 

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking





 

Installed it to see what it was about... but then
uninstalled it due to system resources.  It's a neat tool if you have
enough resources to run it.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

 


 


 




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke


 


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread John Cook
I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for the 
quintessential IT Geek who doesn't mix well with regular people [Shook]) and 
they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these trying 
times.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now, 
networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn, 
whichever.

-Sam


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking
Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were 
doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along, and 
started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of the 
population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of social 
networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of if you 
can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC 
marv...@gmail.commailto:marv...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet for 
some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites like 
MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself that I 
just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals I know and 
meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split 
as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate perspective, while the 
other half see their evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie 
into a particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to 
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try 
to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create these solutions to try 
and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 
I've come to the conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin 
supporting an organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid 
in increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle 
while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved 
out of some side hole.
I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when 
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it was. 
So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I figure in 
another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be somewhere having a 
discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the corporate perspective.

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper 
ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com



Cameron,



It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you are 
replying to so others can follow the conversation.



Eric



From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it due to system 
resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com













--
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke







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Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread James Kerr
It has come of age then.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Vander Kooi 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:26 PM
  Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking


  We will all know that FaceBook has truly come of age when Shook joins.

   

   

  From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

   

  Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

  I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were 
doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along, and 
started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of the 
population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)  

  It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of 
social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of 
if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet 
for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites like 
MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself that I 
just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals I know and 
meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split 
as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate perspective, while the 
other half see their evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie 
into a particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to 
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try 
to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create these solutions to try 
and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 
I've come to the conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin 
supporting an organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid 
in increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle 
while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved 
out of some side hole. 

  I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when 
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it was. 
So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I figure in 
another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be somewhere having a 
discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the corporate perspective. 

   

  ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



   

  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

Cameron,

 

It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you 
are replying to so others can follow the conversation.

 

Eric

 

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

Installed it to see what it was about. but then uninstalled it due to 
system resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

 

 

 

   

   




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  Arthur C. Clarke

   





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Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Kurt Buff
I prefer a winning lottery ticket myself...

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:32, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for the
 quintessential IT Geek who doesn’t mix well with regular people [Shook]) and
 they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these trying
 times.



 John W. Cook

 Systems Administrator

 Partnership For Strong Families

 315 SE 2nd Ave

 Gainesville, Fl 32601

 Office (352) 393-2741 x320

 Cell (352) 215-6944

 Fax (352) 393-2746

 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+



 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
 networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn,
 whichever.



 -Sam



 

 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

 Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

 I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were
 doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along,
 and started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of
 the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

 It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
 social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of
 if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
 for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
 like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
 that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
 in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
 perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
 potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
 constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
 loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
 individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
 little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
 conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
 organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid in
 increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle
 while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be
 shoved out of some side hole.

 I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
 instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it
 was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I
 figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be
 somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the
 corporate perspective.



 ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

 Sorry,  sometimes I don’t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you
 are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric



 From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]

 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM

 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 Installed it to see what it was about… but then uninstalled it due to system
 resources.  It’s a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com














 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke







 
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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread John Cook
Keep us posted on how that works out for you...

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

I prefer a winning lottery ticket myself...

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:32, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for the
 quintessential IT Geek who doest mix well with regular people [Shook]) and
 they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these trying
 times.



 John W. Cook

 Systems Administrator

 Partnership For Strong Families

 315 SE 2nd Ave

 Gainesville, Fl 32601

 Office (352) 393-2741 x320

 Cell (352) 215-6944

 Fax (352) 393-2746

 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+



 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
 networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn,
 whichever.



 -Sam



 

 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

 Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

 I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were
 doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along,
 and started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of
 the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

 It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
 social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of
 if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
 for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
 like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
 that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
 in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
 perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
 potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
 constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
 loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
 individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
 little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
 conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
 organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid in
 increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle
 while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be
 shoved out of some side hole.

 I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
 instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it
 was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I
 figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be
 somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the
 corporate perspective.



 ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

 Sorry,  sometimes I don���t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you
 are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric



 From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]

 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM

 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 Installed it to see what it was abou but then uninstalled it due to system
 resources.  It���s a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com














 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Kurt Buff
Heh.

Yup, sure will.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:42, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Keep us posted on how that works out for you...

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell     (352) 215-6944
 Fax     (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:37 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

 I prefer a winning lottery ticket myself...

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:32, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for the
 quintessential IT Geek who doesÿÿ€™t mix well with regular people [Shook]) 
 and
 they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these trying
 times.



 John W. Cook

 Systems Administrator

 Partnership For Strong Families

 315 SE 2nd Ave

 Gainesville, Fl 32601

 Office (352) 393-2741 x320

 Cell     (352) 215-6944

 Fax     (352) 393-2746

 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+



 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
 networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn,
 whichever.



 -Sam



 

 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

 Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

 I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were
 doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along,
 and started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of
 the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

 It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
 social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of
 if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
 for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
 like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
 that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
 in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
 perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
 potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
 constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
 loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
 individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
 little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
 conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
 organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid in
 increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle
 while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be
 shoved out of some side hole.

 I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
 instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it
 was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I
 figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be
 somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the
 corporate perspective.



 ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

 Sorry,  sometimes I donÿÿ™t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you
 are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric



 From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]

 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM

 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



 Installed it to see what it was abouÿÿ€¦ but then uninstalled it due to 
 system
 resources.  Itÿÿ™s a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com














 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any

RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Don Andrews
Did you just refer to Shook as regular people?

 



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for
the quintessential IT Geek who doesn't mix well with regular people
[Shook]) and they were very determined that ANY networking was good
during these trying times. 

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
networking at any level is quite important right now.
Facebook/LinkedIn, whichever.

 

-Sam

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids
were doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I
followed along, and started discovering that it was definitely more for
the older group of the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law
has a FB account)  

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a
case of if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your
advantage.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content
yet for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on
sites like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've
convinced myself that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self
titled  professionals I know and meet use these as main communication
mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split as one half sees these as time
wasters from a corporate perspective, while the other half see their
evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie into a
particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own
ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create
these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years
in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the conslusion that I won't
get rich working as a sys admin supporting an organization who's user
base depends on the very tools that aid in increasing my administrative
overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle while hovering around that
glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved out of some side
hole. 

I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster
it was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of
messaging. I figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve
and I'll be somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster
it is from the corporate perspective. 

 

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

Cameron,

 

It would be much more helpful if you included text from the
posts that you are replying to so others can follow the conversation.

 

Eric

 

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it
due to system resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources
to run it.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

 

 

 

 

 




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 



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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread John Cook
No I referred to him as a totally sociopathic Geek that DOESNT mix well with 
regular people!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

Did you just refer to Shook as regular people?


From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for the 
quintessential IT Geek who doesn't mix well with regular people [Shook]) and 
they were very determined that ANY networking was good during these trying 
times.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now, 
networking at any level is quite important right now.  Facebook/LinkedIn, 
whichever.

-Sam


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking
Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were 
doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along, and 
started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of the 
population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of social 
networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of if you 
can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC 
marv...@gmail.commailto:marv...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet for 
some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites like 
MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself that I 
just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals I know and 
meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split 
as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate perspective, while the 
other half see their evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie 
into a particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to 
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try 
to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create these solutions to try 
and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 
I've come to the conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin 
supporting an organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid 
in increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle 
while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved 
out of some side hole.
I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when 
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it was. 
So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I figure in 
another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be somewhere having a 
discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the corporate perspective.

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper 
ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com



Cameron,



It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that you are 
replying to so others can follow the conversation.



Eric



From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking



Installed it to see what it was about... but then uninstalled it due to system 
resources.  It's a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo

Re: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Candee Vaglica
Exactly.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

 I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids were
 doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I followed along,
 and started discovering that it was definitely more for the older group of
 the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law has a FB account)

 It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
 social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a case of
 if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your advantage.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content yet
 for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on sites
 like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've convinced myself
 that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self titled  professionals
 I know and meet use these as main communication mediums. The IT journeyman
 in me is split as one half sees these as time wasters from a corporate
 perspective, while the other half see their evolution for what they are,
 potential cash cows that tie into a particular consumer need. So since I'm
 constantly looking for ways to grow and break away from the corporate
 loophole to pursue my own ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the
 individuals that create these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a
 little over 10 years in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the
 conslusion that I won't get rich working as a sys admin supporting an
 organization who's user base depends on the very tools that aid in
 increasing my administrative overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle
 while hovering around that glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be
 shoved out of some side hole.
 I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
 instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster it
 was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of messaging. I
 figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve and I'll be
 somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster it is from the
 corporate perspective.

 ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...


 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
 wrote:

 Sorry,  sometimes I don’t like having a huge list of replies.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com



 Cameron,



 It would be much more helpful if you included text from the posts that
 you are replying to so others can follow the conversation.



 Eric



 From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]



 Installed it to see what it was about… but then uninstalled it due to
 system resources.  It’s a neat tool if you have enough resources to run it.



 _

 Cameron Cooper

 IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

 Aurico Reports, Ine

 Phone: 847-890-4021    Fax: 847-255-1896

 ccoo...@aurico.com





 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking






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RE: OT: Social Networking

2009-03-16 Thread Don Andrews
Whew - you had me worried for a minute there (chuckle)

 



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

No I referred to him as a totally sociopathic Geek that DOESNT mix well
with regular people!

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

Did you just refer to Shook as regular people?

 



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

I just attended a session on how important networking is (especially for
the quintessential IT Geek who doesn't mix well with regular people
[Shook]) and they were very determined that ANY networking was good
during these trying times. 

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Social Networking

 

To add to that point:  With all the job uncertainty out there right now,
networking at any level is quite important right now.
Facebook/LinkedIn, whichever.

 

-Sam

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Social Networking

Join the FB crowd Marvin, resistance is futile.

I first joined a social network (MySpace) to keep track of what my kids
were doing, then my oldest dumped MySpace and joined FaceBook, I
followed along, and started discovering that it was definitely more for
the older group of the population.  (My almost 80 year old mother-in-law
has a FB account)  

It's interesting to see that CIO's are starting to see the advantages of
social networking as opposed to it just being a time waster.  It's a
case of if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em and leverage it to your
advantage.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, MarvinC marv...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a personal blog that I try to keep updated with fresh content
yet for some odd reason I will not bring myself to create an account on
sites like MySpace, FaceBook, and Twitter. For some reason I've
convinced myself that I just don't relate, yet I find that more self
titled  professionals I know and meet use these as main communication
mediums. The IT journeyman in me is split as one half sees these as time
wasters from a corporate perspective, while the other half see their
evolution for what they are, potential cash cows that tie into a
particular consumer need. So since I'm constantly looking for ways to
grow and break away from the corporate loophole to pursue my own
ideas, I try to tap into the mindset of the individuals that create
these solutions to try and shape my own. Having a little over 10 years
in this field and pushing 40 I've come to the conslusion that I won't
get rich working as a sys admin supporting an organization who's user
base depends on the very tools that aid in increasing my administrative
overhead. If anything I'm doomed to struggle while hovering around that
glass ceiling, pondering, and waiting to be shoved out of some side
hole. 

I seem to recall having discussion with some eldermen 10+ years ago when
instant messaging was making it's debut about how much of a time waster
it was. So here we are years later discussing an evloved form of
messaging. I figure in another 5 - 10 years streaming video will evolve
and I'll be somewhere having a discussion on how much of a time waster
it is from the corporate perspective. 

 

ya' gotta love how evolution marches to the beat of its own drums...



 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
wrote:

Sorry,  sometimes I don't like having a huge list of replies.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Ine

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 

Cameron,

 

It would be much more helpful if you included text from the
posts that you are replying to so others can follow the conversation.

 

Eric

 

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:27 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT: Social