RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Murray Freeman
Well, my testing over the last 2 days confirms that the problem is
caused by users trying to open Outlook following log on and thus the
workstations are still busy doing housekeeping. If they wait about 5
minutes or so, the Outlook client opens within 10 seconds. Thanks for
all the suggestions. 


Murray






RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
 Hosting said .pst files on a share makes all of the above about 10x
 worse.

and completely unsupported!

~JasonG



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I keep telling the management that here...

:(

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:01 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
 
  Hosting said .pst files on a share makes all of the above about 10x
  worse.
 
 and completely unsupported!
 
 ~JasonG




RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
 Well, my testing over the last 2 days confirms that the problem is
 caused by users trying to open Outlook following log on and thus the
 workstations are still busy doing housekeeping.

It might make the lusers happier if some sleep statements are inserted in
the logon scripting, delaying the non-time critical housekeeping...  I
would go ballistic if it took my PC 5 min to be usable (and I'm one who
understands that things need to be done)!

~JasonG



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
Apparently a worst case scenario is when NTFS compression is enabled on
that server...yikes!

~JasonG

 I keep telling the management that here...
 
 :(
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:01 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
 
   Hosting said .pst files on a share makes all of the above about 10x
   worse.
 
  and completely unsupported!
 
  ~JasonG
 




RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network. 
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Gonzalez
Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network. 
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, 
distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this 
email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of 
Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make 
sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept 
responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or 
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RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!
 

Murray

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING



Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

 

Bob Fronk

P Please print only as needed.

 

 

 

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any
good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server
2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client.
Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the client
first thing in the morning after logging into the network. Later in the
day, if opening the client after closing the client, the client loads
very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause
of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have staggered start times
here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the very same
time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Murray 

 



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
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Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.






RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Jay Dale
That might cause Outlook to open slowly, especially if you have a
significant mailbox size.  Try putting it in Cached Mode, typically that
will help it open a bit quicker.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.









RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Martin Blackstone
Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Orland, Kathleen
Have you looked at the integration of the Dell Media Centre with Office? Does 
Outlook open quicker if you open it in safe mode? Start  Run  outlook.exe 
/safe

If safe mode restores Outlook to opening as you would expect it to, check your 
Add Ins. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Murray Freeman 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:54 AM
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!

  Murray





--
  From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
  Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

   

  Bob Fronk

  P Please print only as needed.

   

   

   

   

  From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
  Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

   

  I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any good 
suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server 2K3 running 
on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client. Recently we are having 
significant slowness upon opening the client first thing in the morning after 
logging into the network. Later in the day, if opening the client after closing 
the client, the client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like 
to determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the 
very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

   

  Murray 

   


RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
I did, and no difference. 


MMF 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.









RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Gonzalez
So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.






This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the 
intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, 
distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this 
email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of 
Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make 
sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept 
responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or 
attachments.




RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Mousa Hamad
Interestingly enough I am having a similar issue to Murray, however ours
occurs on start up AND while Outlook is open. It will occasionally hang
several PC's on our network (not at the same time) and I can't really
pin point what the cause is. The synchronization is what causes the hang
up and svchost spikes to 99%.

I have looked online to no avail and even replaced a few PC's to rule
out software and hardware... Any ideas where I can talk to our lead
admin about looking server side? 


Mousa Hamad
 


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.






This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy

RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Mousa Hamad
And of course I failed to mention that all of our PC's are running XP
Pro SP3... Office 2003 SP3 and we are running Exchange 2003...  


Mousa Hamad
 
Zetron, Inc.
IT Department
(425) 820-6363 x624

-Original Message-
From: Mousa Hamad [mailto:mha...@zetron.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:01 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Interestingly enough I am having a similar issue to Murray, however ours
occurs on start up AND while Outlook is open. It will occasionally hang
several PC's on our network (not at the same time) and I can't really
pin point what the cause is. The synchronization is what causes the hang
up and svchost spikes to 99%.

I have looked online to no avail and even replaced a few PC's to rule
out software and hardware... Any ideas where I can talk to our lead
admin about looking server side? 


Mousa Hamad
 


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
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RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Gonzalez
Mousa, did you try outlook /safe and see if the client responded in a
timely manner? 


-Original Message-
From: Mousa Hamad [mailto:mha...@zetron.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

And of course I failed to mention that all of our PC's are running XP
Pro SP3... Office 2003 SP3 and we are running Exchange 2003...  


Mousa Hamad
 
Zetron, Inc.
IT Department
(425) 820-6363 x624

-Original Message-
From: Mousa Hamad [mailto:mha...@zetron.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:01 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Interestingly enough I am having a similar issue to Murray, however ours
occurs on start up AND while Outlook is open. It will occasionally hang
several PC's on our network (not at the same time) and I can't really
pin point what the cause is. The synchronization is what causes the hang
up and svchost spikes to 99%.

I have looked online to no avail and even replaced a few PC's to rule
out software and hardware... Any ideas where I can talk to our lead
admin about looking server side? 


Mousa Hamad
 


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
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Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
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RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
We're using McAfee for A/V, but the interesting part is in the
afternoon, when I tested, Outlook opened just fine. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.






This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.






RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.






RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Mousa Hamad
Did not... I will give safe mode a shot...  


Mousa Hamad
 
Zetron, Inc.
IT Department
(425) 820-6363 x624

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Mousa, did you try outlook /safe and see if the client responded in a
timely manner? 


-Original Message-
From: Mousa Hamad [mailto:mha...@zetron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

And of course I failed to mention that all of our PC's are running XP
Pro SP3... Office 2003 SP3 and we are running Exchange 2003...  


Mousa Hamad
 
Zetron, Inc.
IT Department
(425) 820-6363 x624

-Original Message-
From: Mousa Hamad [mailto:mha...@zetron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:01 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Interestingly enough I am having a similar issue to Murray, however ours
occurs on start up AND while Outlook is open. It will occasionally hang
several PC's on our network (not at the same time) and I can't really
pin point what the cause is. The synchronization is what causes the hang
up and svchost spikes to 99%.

I have looked online to no avail and even replaced a few PC's to rule
out software and hardware... Any ideas where I can talk to our lead
admin about looking server side? 


Mousa Hamad
 


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company

RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Gonzalez
Murray, my guess would be that the AV maybe (possibly) scanning the
store and causing a spike that would effect the client accessing the
store. That would be my guess :)

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We're using McAfee for A/V, but the interesting part is in the
afternoon, when I tested, Outlook opened just fine. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.






This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email

RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
Well, I tried opening Outlook in safe mode and what a difference. It
takes 17 seconds in normal mode and 8 seconds in safe mode. 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Murray, my guess would be that the AV maybe (possibly) scanning the
store and causing a spike that would effect the client accessing the
store. That would be my guess :)

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We're using McAfee for A/V, but the interesting part is in the
afternoon, when I tested, Outlook opened just fine. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses

Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Orland, Kathleen
Disable all your Add Ins, then add them back one at a time. Test inbetween
to see which one is the culprit.


- Original Message - 
From: Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Well, I tried opening Outlook in safe mode and what a difference. It
takes 17 seconds in normal mode and 8 seconds in safe mode.


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Murray, my guess would be that the AV maybe (possibly) scanning the
store and causing a spike that would effect the client accessing the
store. That would be my guess :)

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We're using McAfee for A/V, but the interesting part is in the
afternoon, when I tested, Outlook opened just fine.


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?)

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone.


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode.


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps!


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present
in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or
damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s

RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Bob Fronk
How about Google search?  I know it used to cause Exchange/Outlook problems.  
Anyone have that installed on the PC?  I have seen some performance degradation 
when the windows search is installed, but I have declined it on WSUS, so we 
don't have it here.


Just stabbing at things for you... It really sounds like an add-in problem.  


--
Bob FronkPlease print onl���as needed.





-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Well, I tried opening Outlook in safe mode and what a difference. It
takes 17 seconds in normal mode and 8 seconds in safe mode. 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Murray, my guess would be that the AV maybe (possibly) scanning the
store and causing a spike that would effect the client accessing the
store. That would be my guess :)

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We're using McAfee for A/V, but the interesting part is in the
afternoon, when I tested, Outlook opened just fine. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning:
Although precautions have been taken to make

RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Don Guyer
Xobni?

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox  Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com


-Original Message-
From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

How about Google search?  I know it used to cause Exchange/Outlook problems.  
Anyone have that installed on the PC?  I have seen some performance degradation 
when the windows search is installed, but I have declined it on WSUS, so we 
don't have it here.



Just stabbing at things for you... It really sounds like an add-in problem.  


--
Bob FronkPlease print onlas needed.





-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Well, I tried opening Outlook in safe mode and what a difference. It
takes 17 seconds in normal mode and 8 seconds in safe mode. 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Murray, my guess would be that the AV maybe (possibly) scanning the
store and causing a spike that would effect the client accessing the
store. That would be my guess :)

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We're using McAfee for A/V, but the interesting part is in the
afternoon, when I tested, Outlook opened just fine. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So if everyone is having an issue, what is the load on the server store?
What do you have on the backend (AV product that may be scanning the
store?) 

If everyone is experiencing this, I would start with the server / store
and see what is occurring before I would point on the clients. If the
store is ok, how about a switch? Bad port? 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

It's not a single user, it's everyone. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Also, is the free / busy scheduler updating for this particular user? I
just had an issue with a user and I had to break cached mode and reset
cached mode and it started operating normally...strange but that was the
issue...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Try using it.

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

We are not using Cached Mode. 


Murray


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Cached mode?

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Actually, it does open faster if I use all caps! 


Murray 


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org
wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
 good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange 
 Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 
 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the 
 client first thing in the morning after logging into the network.
 Later in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the 
 client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to 
 determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
 staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the 
 client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


 Murray







This email

RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
Thank you for all the suggestions. I tried opening in Safe Mode and
shutting down all the Add-ins and then testing with each of our add-ins.
End result, virtually the same speed in opening Outlook. Finally, I then
logged out of our network, and then logged back in. I waited until it
appeared that the login process was complete, and immediately opened
Outlook in normal mode. It took 37 seconds. I then closed Outlook and
reopened it after waiting a few seconds. It took 8 seconds. I believe
the problem is related to the login process and not a problem with
Outlook. I'll test again tomorrow morning but I suspect the results will
be the same. Thanks again for the suggestions. 


Murray 






Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Sean Martin
What is your user environment like? You indicated the problem commonly
surfaces during the first logon. Do you have a large number of users
logging in at or around the same time in the morning? What about mailbox
sharing behavior? Do a lot of users share their mail folders/calendars/etc.
with other users? I've heard in the past that Exchange having to
consistently rebuild Address Book Views (I believe that was the
terminology) can cause performance degradation at the server level,
ultimately affecting the clients. I'm working off memory here, but I seem to
recall that folder views are cached until it is viewed for the 11th time, at
which time a new view is generated.

Whatever the case may be, I'd start paying particular attention to server
performance, specifically the disks.

Just my $.02 :-)

- Sean

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.orgwrote:

 Thank you for all the suggestions. I tried opening in Safe Mode and
 shutting down all the Add-ins and then testing with each of our add-ins.
 End result, virtually the same speed in opening Outlook. Finally, I then
 logged out of our network, and then logged back in. I waited until it
 appeared that the login process was complete, and immediately opened
 Outlook in normal mode. It took 37 seconds. I then closed Outlook and
 reopened it after waiting a few seconds. It took 8 seconds. I believe
 the problem is related to the login process and not a problem with
 Outlook. I'll test again tomorrow morning but I suspect the results will
 be the same. Thanks again for the suggestions.


 Murray







RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Laptops or workstations?  Offline folders?  



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!
 

Murray

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING



Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

 

Bob Fronk

P Please print only as needed.

 

 

 

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any
good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server
2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client.
Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the client
first thing in the morning after logging into the network. Later in the
day, if opening the client after closing the client, the client loads
very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause
of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have staggered start times
here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the very same
time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Murray 

 



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Bob Fronk
When you do close Outlook, be sure that it is really closing.  Check task 
manager for Outlook.exe.  I have seen it close but not end.  When you click 
it again, it opens very fast, because it was not really closed to begin with.



--
Bob Fronk
��Please print on�� as needed.






-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Thank you for all the suggestions. I tried opening in Safe Mode and
shutting down all the Add-ins and then testing with each of our add-ins.
End result, virtually the same speed in opening Outlook. Finally, I then
logged out of our network, and then logged back in. I waited until it
appeared that the login process was complete, and immediately opened
Outlook in normal mode. It took 37 seconds. I then closed Outlook and
reopened it after waiting a few seconds. It took 8 seconds. I believe
the problem is related to the login process and not a problem with
Outlook. I'll test again tomorrow morning but I suspect the results will
be the same. Thanks again for the suggestions. 


Murray 






RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
Workstations and off line folders.
 

Murray 

 



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Laptops or workstations?  Offline folders?  



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!
 

Murray

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING



Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

 

Bob Fronk

P Please print only as needed.

 

 

 

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any
good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server
2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client.
Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the client
first thing in the morning after logging into the network. Later in the
day, if opening the client after closing the client, the client loads
very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause
of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have staggered start times
here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the very same
time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Murray 

 



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Why are you running offline folders on workstations?



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Workstations and off line folders.
 

Murray 

 



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Laptops or workstations?  Offline folders?  



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!
 

Murray

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING



Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

 

Bob Fronk

P Please print only as needed.

 

 

 

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any
good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server
2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client.
Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the client
first thing in the morning after logging into the network. Later in the
day, if opening the client after closing the client, the client loads
very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause
of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have staggered start times
here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the very same
time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Murray 

 



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Murray Freeman
I think I may have misunderstood the original question. My
interpretation of offline meant that the folders are not stored on the
Exchange Server, but are included in the Outlook folder list. We did
this to reduce the amount of space neede on the Exchange Server. We
refer to these files as offline here.
 

Murray 

 



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Why are you running offline folders on workstations?



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Workstations and off line folders.
 

Murray 

 



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Laptops or workstations?  Offline folders?  



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!
 

Murray

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING



Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

 

Bob Fronk

P Please print only as needed.

 

 

 

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any
good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server
2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client.
Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the client
first thing in the morning after logging into the network. Later in the
day, if opening the client after closing the client, the client loads
very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause
of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have staggered start times
here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the very same
time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Murray 

 



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Maglinger, Paul
So you're using Personal Folders at the workstation?  How large are your
PST files?  Corrupted PST files can cause delays in Outlook opening up.



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


I think I may have misunderstood the original question. My
interpretation of offline meant that the folders are not stored on the
Exchange Server, but are included in the Outlook folder list. We did
this to reduce the amount of space neede on the Exchange Server. We
refer to these files as offline here.
 

Murray 

 



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Why are you running offline folders on workstations?



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Workstations and off line folders.
 

Murray 

 



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Laptops or workstations?  Offline folders?  



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!
 

Murray

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING



Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

 

Bob Fronk

P Please print only as needed.

 

 

 

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any
good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server
2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client.
Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the client
first thing in the morning after logging into the network. Later in the
day, if opening the client after closing the client, the client loads
very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause
of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have staggered start times
here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the very same
time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Murray 

 



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Campbell, Rob
I'd think that would be consistently slow, not just on the first invocation 
after login.


From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

So you're using Personal Folders at the workstation?  How large are your PST 
files?  Corrupted PST files can cause delays in Outlook opening up.


From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
I think I may have misunderstood the original question. My interpretation of 
offline meant that the folders are not stored on the Exchange Server, but are 
included in the Outlook folder list. We did this to reduce the amount of space 
neede on the Exchange Server. We refer to these files as offline here.


Murray



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
Why are you running offline folders on workstations?


From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
Workstations and off line folders.


Murray



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
Laptops or workstations?  Offline folders?


From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!


Murray



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

Bob Fronk
P Please print only as needed.




From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any good 
suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server 2K3 running 
on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client. Recently we are having 
significant slowness upon opening the client first thing in the morning after 
logging into the network. Later in the day, if opening the client after closing 
the client, the client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like 
to determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the 
very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Murray

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Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Orland, Kathleen
If you're using Personal Folders, were they brought over from an earlier 
version of Outlook or was a PST created in Outlook 2003 and the contents of the 
older PST copied into it?

If the PST is from an earlier version of Outlook, I'm wondering about the PST 
size.

In addition, make sure Outlook is really closed. Check the task manager, 
OUTLOOK.EXE will typically run for about 10 seconds after closing it. If it 
remains open, then there is something that is holding it open (like FAX 
software, synch software for a handheld, etc.).  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maglinger, Paul 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:59 PM
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  So you're using Personal Folders at the workstation?  How large are your PST 
files?  Corrupted PST files can cause delays in Outlook opening up.



--
  From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:48 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  I think I may have misunderstood the original question. My interpretation of 
offline meant that the folders are not stored on the Exchange Server, but are 
included in the Outlook folder list. We did this to reduce the amount of space 
neede on the Exchange Server. We refer to these files as offline here.

  Murray 





--
  From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:41 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  Why are you running offline folders on workstations?



--
  From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:36 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  Workstations and off line folders.

  Murray 





--
  From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  Laptops or workstations?  Offline folders?  



--
  From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:54 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!

  Murray





--
  From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
  Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING


  Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

   

  Bob Fronk

  P Please print only as needed.

   

   

   

   

  From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
  Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

   

  I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any good 
suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server 2K3 running 
on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client. Recently we are having 
significant slowness upon opening the client first thing in the morning after 
logging into the network. Later in the day, if opening the client after closing 
the client, the client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like 
to determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the 
very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

   

  Murray 

   


RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Don Andrews
Good point - a later in the day reboot or at least Windows Log Off/Log
On should verify that  

 

Any disk encryption?  

 

Is it slow if you close the personal folders (PST) before shutting down
the night before? (hmm, that didn't sound quite right)

 

Do you have hew mail delivered to the PST directly?

 



From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

If you're using Personal Folders, were they brought over from an earlier
version of Outlook or was a PST created in Outlook 2003 and the contents
of the older PST copied into it?

 

If the PST is from an earlier version of Outlook, I'm wondering about
the PST size.

 

In addition, make sure Outlook is really closed. Check the task manager,
OUTLOOK.EXE will typically run for about 10 seconds after closing it. If
it remains open, then there is something that is holding it open (like
FAX software, synch software for a handheld, etc.).  

- Original Message - 

From: Maglinger, Paul mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com  

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:59 PM

Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

So you're using Personal Folders at the workstation?  How large
are your PST files?  Corrupted PST files can cause delays in Outlook
opening up.

 





From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

I think I may have misunderstood the original question. My
interpretation of offline meant that the folders are not stored on the
Exchange Server, but are included in the Outlook folder list. We did
this to reduce the amount of space neede on the Exchange Server. We
refer to these files as offline here.

 

Murray 

 

 





From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Why are you running offline folders on workstations?

 





From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Workstations and off line folders.

 

Murray 

 

 





From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Laptops or workstations?  Offline folders?  

 





From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Running XP SP3 and yes, all our workstations are Dell!

 

Murray

 

 





From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

 

Bob Fronk

P Please print only as needed.

 

 

 

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't
find any good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have
Exchange Server 2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook
2K3 Client. Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the
client first thing in the morning after logging into the network. Later
in the day, if opening the client after closing the client, the client
loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to determine the
cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have staggered start
times here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the very
same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Murray 

 



Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Jay Dalejd...@xpresstel.com wrote:
 We are not using Cached Mode.

 That might cause Outlook to open slowly, especially if you have a
 significant mailbox size.

  FWIW, IME, this depends on a lot on the environment.  As a general
guideline, I say:

Fast server, fast network, and/or slow clients, online is better.

Slow server, slow network, and/or fast clients, cached is better.

Slow may just mean sufficiently heavily loaded.

  In particular, with a large mailbox ( 1 to 2 GB), OST performance
can really start to drag down overall client performance.  Exchange
and ESE can handle this a lot better.  We've found NTFS fragmentation
can be a problem with such large OSTs, and have even gone so far as to
create separate partitions just for OST files, which seemed to help.
This is all Outlook 2003; I understand 2007 has different performance
behaviors.

  YMMV, etc.

  (And yes, I just posted the same guideline in ntsysadmin.  I didn't
know this was coming, I swear.  :)  )

-- Ben



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-29 Thread Campbell, Rob
Is the slowness in opeing Outlook for the first time, or opening immediately 
after login?

IOW - If you log in and wait for any group policy application, startup 
scritpts, etc to complete, is it still slow to open the first time, or is in 
only if you open it immediately after logging in?


From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any good 
suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server 2K3 running 
on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client. Recently we are having 
significant slowness upon opening the client first thing in the morning after 
logging into the network. Later in the day, if opening the client after closing 
the client, the client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like 
to determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the 
very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Murray

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RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-29 Thread Murray Freeman
It's usually immediately after logging in, but, I've tested in the
afternoon, by logging out, and then logging in and immediately opening
the client. It moves fast in the afternoon. Tomorrow morning, I'll log
into my workstation and then wait about 10 minutes before opening the
client.
 

Murray 

 



From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING



Is the slowness in opeing Outlook for the first time, or opening
immediately after login?   

 

IOW - If you log in and wait for any group policy application, startup
scritpts, etc to complete, is it still slow to open the first time, or
is in only if you open it immediately after logging in?

 



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any
good suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server
2K3 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client.
Recently we are having significant slowness upon opening the client
first thing in the morning after logging into the network. Later in the
day, if opening the client after closing the client, the client loads
very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause
of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have staggered start times
here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the very same
time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Murray 

 


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Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-29 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freemanmfree...@alanet.org wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any good
 suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server 2K3
 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client. Recently we
 are having significant slowness upon opening the client first thing in the
 morning after logging into the network. Later in the day, if opening the
 client after closing the client, the client loads very fast, within a few
 seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause of the slowness or at least
 a fix. Since we have staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is
 opening the client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be
 appreciated.


 Murray





Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-29 Thread will...@lefkovics.net
Indeed... it takes Outlook much longer to reNder capital letters.  use them 
spAringly.



From: Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING 

Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
performance issue.

--
ME2

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freeman wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any 
good
 suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server 2K3
 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client. Recently 
we
 are having significant slowness upon opening the client first thing in 
the
 morning after logging into the network. Later in the day, if opening the
 client after closing the client, the client loads very fast, within a 
few
 seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause of the slowness or at 
least
 a fix. Since we have staggered start times here, it's not like everyone 
is
 opening the client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be
 appreciated.


 Murray 


Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-29 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
:-)

Seeing this is an Outlook performance issue that has only recently
occurred, I have to ask:  Is the Windows Search service running?

I've seen indexing go awry plenty of times, hosing performance to a
crawl especially in Outlook, printing, and a few other odd-ball
places...

--
ME2



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:17 PM,
will...@lefkovics.netwill...@lefkovics.net wrote:
 Indeed... it takes Outlook much longer to reNder capital letters.  use them
 spAringly.

 
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:15 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Re: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

 Typing email subjects in all caps isnt going to help that client-side
 performance issue.

 --
 ME2



 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Murray Freeman wrote:
 I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any good
 suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server 2K3
 running on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client. Recently
 we
 are having significant slowness upon opening the client first thing in the
 morning after logging into the network. Later in the day, if opening the
 client after closing the client, the client loads very fast, within a few
 seconds. We'd surely like to determine the cause of the slowness or at
 least
 a fix. Since we have staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is
 opening the client at the very same time. Any suggestions would be
 appreciated.


 Murray




RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-06-29 Thread Bob Fronk
Are you running Vista 64 bit?  Is this a Dell PC?

Bob Fronk
P Please print only as needed.




From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

I've done some research before posting this issue, and can't find any good 
suggestions, so I'm going to the Source. We have Exchange Server 2K3 running 
on a Windows Server 2K3 and use the Outlook 2K3 Client. Recently we are having 
significant slowness upon opening the client first thing in the morning after 
logging into the network. Later in the day, if opening the client after closing 
the client, the client loads very fast, within a few seconds. We'd surely like 
to determine the cause of the slowness or at least a fix. Since we have 
staggered start times here, it's not like everyone is opening the client at the 
very same time. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Murray