RE: Outlook trapping emails

2011-05-04 Thread Joe Pochedley
Turn off Junk email filtering in Outlook?  If you've got an external service 
performing spam filtering, then the Junk filtering in Outlook is somewhat 
superfluous.

Otherwise, if you add the SMTP addresses of the copiers as contacts within 
Outlook, then items from those senders won't be marked as junk anymore.  We try 
to use the same FROM: address on all our copiers (since nobody needs to send TO 
them), and then just vary the Display Name per copier so people know where it 
came from...

There's probably a dozen other ways to do it too, but those have worked for us 
in the past

Joe Pochedley

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook trapping emails

Good afternoon all,
Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007
The problem: We allow our multi-functions to relay off of Exchange but for some 
strange reason the emails (with PDF attachments) always get trapped in Junk. Is 
there any way to avoid this?

As always...TIA!

Cameron

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Re: Outlook trapping emails

2011-05-04 Thread Cameron
I've tried to explain that or have them add the sender to the 'safe senders
list' but for some reason (read laziness) they don't get it.

Something I've just added (from google-fuing) is a transport rule to set the
SCL=0 if it's from inside the org (I haven't tested if this works yet).

Good ideas though!

Thanks,
Cameron



On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Joe Pochedley
joe.poched...@fivesgroup.comwrote:

  Turn off Junk email filtering in Outlook?  If you’ve got an external
 service performing spam filtering, then the Junk filtering in Outlook is
 somewhat superfluous.



 Otherwise, if you add the SMTP addresses of the copiers as contacts within
 Outlook, then items from those senders won’t be marked as junk anymore.  We
 try to use the same FROM: address on all our copiers (since nobody needs to
 send TO them), and then just vary the Display Name per copier so people know
 where it came from…



 There’s probably a dozen other ways to do it too, but those have worked for
 us in the past….



 Joe Pochedley



 *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:48 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Outlook trapping emails



 Good afternoon all,

 Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007

 The problem: We allow our multi-functions to relay off of Exchange but for
 some strange reason the emails (with PDF attachments) always get trapped in
 Junk. Is there any way to avoid this?



 As always...TIA!



 Cameron

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RE: Outlook trapping emails

2011-05-04 Thread Steve Szabo
I believe internal messages are normally marked with a -1 for SCL.

 

\\Steve//

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Outlook trapping emails

 

I've tried to explain that or have them add the sender to the 'safe senders
list' but for some reason (read laziness) they don't get it.

 

Something I've just added (from google-fuing) is a transport rule to set the
SCL=0 if it's from inside the org (I haven't tested if this works yet).

 

Good ideas though!

 

Thanks,

Cameron



 

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Joe Pochedley joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com
wrote:

Turn off Junk email filtering in Outlook?  If you've got an external service
performing spam filtering, then the Junk filtering in Outlook is somewhat
superfluous.

 

Otherwise, if you add the SMTP addresses of the copiers as contacts within
Outlook, then items from those senders won't be marked as junk anymore.  We
try to use the same FROM: address on all our copiers (since nobody needs to
send TO them), and then just vary the Display Name per copier so people know
where it came from.

 

There's probably a dozen other ways to do it too, but those have worked for
us in the past..

 

Joe Pochedley

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook trapping emails

 

Good afternoon all,

Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007

The problem: We allow our multi-functions to relay off of Exchange but for
some strange reason the emails (with PDF attachments) always get trapped in
Junk. Is there any way to avoid this?

 

As always...TIA!

 

Cameron

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RE: Outlook trapping emails

2011-05-04 Thread Louis, Joe
I just went through this with someone here. My explanations were not acceptable 
so I found and referred her to this link.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-help/handling-junk-mail-in-outlook-2007-HA010232591.aspx#BMjunk

We use spam filtering outside Exchange (why let the junk get to and process the 
junk, much less archive it), so I encourage users to leave defaults and/or 
disable Outlook Junk filtering, which is also in that article. We never seem to 
have problems until someone starts making manual changes to OJF.

Have you checked settings in any desktop AV that might be installed for the end 
user?


From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook trapping emails

Turn off Junk email filtering in Outlook?  If you've got an external service 
performing spam filtering, then the Junk filtering in Outlook is somewhat 
superfluous.

Otherwise, if you add the SMTP addresses of the copiers as contacts within 
Outlook, then items from those senders won't be marked as junk anymore.  We try 
to use the same FROM: address on all our copiers (since nobody needs to send TO 
them), and then just vary the Display Name per copier so people know where it 
came from...

There's probably a dozen other ways to do it too, but those have worked for us 
in the past

Joe Pochedley

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook trapping emails

Good afternoon all,
Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007
The problem: We allow our multi-functions to relay off of Exchange but for some 
strange reason the emails (with PDF attachments) always get trapped in Junk. Is 
there any way to avoid this?

As always...TIA!

Cameron

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RE: Outlook trapping emails

2011-05-04 Thread Knoch, James W
The issue is that the e-mail is originating from a non-trusted source, ie the 
internet or what Exchange sees as external to it.

You either need to authenticate your SMTP connections against Exchange or setup 
an anonymous receive connector that has a list of acceptable IP 
Addresses/Ranges (do not expose this to the Internet, obviously).

This should help:
Allow Anonymous Relay on a Receive Connector
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb232021.aspx

By setting the connector's AuthMechanism to ExternalAuthoritative you are 
saying anything in the address list allowed to send e-mail to the connector is 
coming from a trusted source and treat it as internal.

James

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook trapping emails

I just went through this with someone here. My explanations were not acceptable 
so I found and referred her to this link.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-help/handling-junk-mail-in-outlook-2007-HA010232591.aspx#BMjunk

We use spam filtering outside Exchange (why let the junk get to and process the 
junk, much less archive it), so I encourage users to leave defaults and/or 
disable Outlook Junk filtering, which is also in that article. We never seem to 
have problems until someone starts making manual changes to OJF.

Have you checked settings in any desktop AV that might be installed for the end 
user?


From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook trapping emails

Turn off Junk email filtering in Outlook?  If you've got an external service 
performing spam filtering, then the Junk filtering in Outlook is somewhat 
superfluous.

Otherwise, if you add the SMTP addresses of the copiers as contacts within 
Outlook, then items from those senders won't be marked as junk anymore.  We try 
to use the same FROM: address on all our copiers (since nobody needs to send TO 
them), and then just vary the Display Name per copier so people know where it 
came from...

There's probably a dozen other ways to do it too, but those have worked for us 
in the past

Joe Pochedley

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook trapping emails

Good afternoon all,
Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007
The problem: We allow our multi-functions to relay off of Exchange but for some 
strange reason the emails (with PDF attachments) always get trapped in Junk. Is 
there any way to avoid this?

As always...TIA!

Cameron
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