RE: Relaying problem
When you say remote, how are they remote? Are they simply at another site and using internal routing or are they using a VPN to get in across the Internet? AFAIK there are 2 options (the gurus may be able to suggest others). One is to use OWA and do away with Outlook Express ( which is a good thing as you never know what is going to be broken as new versions come out) or if you know what ip addresses these users have you can allow relaying specifically for those addresses (at least I think you can I haven't actually done this myself) . I would suggest that if you do the second that you enforce authentication for clients before allowing relaying. -Original Message- From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2002 13:39 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relaying problem Hi I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not allowed. I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? Regards... Greg List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relaying problem
Depending on their connection type, specify an IP range under the relay tab of your Virtual SMTP Server(s). -Original Message- From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relaying problem Hi I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not allowed. I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? Regards... Greg List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relaying problem
If you open the SMTP server properties, Access tab and click relay restrictions, then check the "Allow all computers which successfully authenticate ... bla, bla, bla ... then in Outlook/ Oexpress you can indicate that the mail client MUST authenticate to send via the server .. you should be ok... works for me... B -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 January 2002 08:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relaying problem Depending on their connection type, specify an IP range under the relay tab of your Virtual SMTP Server(s). -Original Message- From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relaying problem Hi I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not allowed. I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? Regards... Greg List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Relaying problem
The office is about 1200 kilometers away in Sydney and they are accessing mail via an internet connection. Currently the office in Sydney is using one dialup line to a local ISP for all internet activities. They are about to move in 2 weeks to new offices at which time we are going to have an ISDN connection between the 2 offices. OWA is certainly a possibility but due to the number of users trying to access the internet from this site it is unreliable at best. Thanks for the suggestions anyway. Regards... Greg - Original Message - From: "Wayne Hanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: RE: Relaying problem > When you say remote, how are they remote? Are they simply at another site > and using internal routing or are they using a VPN to get in across the > Internet? > > AFAIK there are 2 options (the gurus may be able to suggest others). One is > to use OWA and do away with Outlook Express ( which is a good thing as you > never know what is going to be broken as new versions come out) or if you > know what ip addresses these users have you can allow relaying specifically > for those addresses (at least I think you can I haven't actually done this > myself) . I would suggest that if you do the second that you enforce > authentication for clients before allowing relaying. > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2002 13:39 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Relaying problem > > > > Hi > > I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my > exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow > relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I > have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never > again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to > send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not > allowed. > > I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express > for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. > Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? > > Regards... Greg > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Relaying problem
Hi Jennifer Unfortunately this is not possible as they are entering the system from the internet and a demand dial connection. ie. the IP Address is not a constant. Thanks anyway. Reagrds... Greg - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: RE: Relaying problem > Depending on their connection type, specify an IP range under the relay tab > of your Virtual SMTP Server(s). > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:39 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Relaying problem > > > Hi > > I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my > exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow > relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I > have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never > again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to > send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not > allowed. > > I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express > for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. > Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? > > Regards... Greg > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relaying problem
That should work for your unknown IP connection type Greg. Unfortunately, it requires user interaction. Greg, have them change the oe settings in the properties of the tools > accounts > mail > properties > servers > my server requires authentication, then it should work. -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relaying problem If you open the SMTP server properties, Access tab and click relay restrictions, then check the "Allow all computers which successfully authenticate ... bla, bla, bla ... then in Outlook/ Oexpress you can indicate that the mail client MUST authenticate to send via the server .. you should be ok... works for me... B -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 January 2002 08:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relaying problem Depending on their connection type, specify an IP range under the relay tab of your Virtual SMTP Server(s). -Original Message- From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relaying problem Hi I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not allowed. I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? Regards... Greg List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relaying problem
This is what I'm doing here, except we are on Exchange 5.5. -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relaying problem If you open the SMTP server properties, Access tab and click relay restrictions, then check the "Allow all computers which successfully authenticate ... bla, bla, bla ... then in Outlook/ Oexpress you can indicate that the mail client MUST authenticate to send via the server .. you should be ok... works for me... B -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 January 2002 08:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relaying problem Depending on their connection type, specify an IP range under the relay tab of your Virtual SMTP Server(s). -Original Message- From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relaying problem Hi I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not allowed. I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? Regards... Greg List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relaying problem
You could use a VPN and do it. That's what we are forced to do for our Goldmine users since its mail client is pathetic. But in Outlook/Outlook Express we just have them check the box that says "My server requires authentication" under the "Outgoing Mail Server" for POP3/IMAP email. -Original Message- From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relaying problem Hi Jennifer Unfortunately this is not possible as they are entering the system from the internet and a demand dial connection. ie. the IP Address is not a constant. Thanks anyway. Reagrds... Greg - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: RE: Relaying problem > Depending on their connection type, specify an IP range under the relay tab > of your Virtual SMTP Server(s). > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:39 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Relaying problem > > > Hi > > I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my > exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow > relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I > have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never > again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to > send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not > allowed. > > I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express > for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. > Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? > > Regards... Greg > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Relaying problem
Look for SMTP auth... you have to set it up on the server, and they have to set it up on the client. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com "One man's ceiling is another man's floor" |+---> || "Greg Kerr" | || | || | || 01/03/2002 12:39 | || AM | || Please respond to| || "MS-Exchange | || Admin Issues"| || | |+---> >-| | | | To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | cc: | | Subject: Relaying problem | >-| Hi I appear to be having a problem with some remote users attaching to my exchange server using Outlook Express. The issue is that if I allow relaying all remote users are able to send and receive email. However if I have it this way I am susceptible to spammers. (already happened once, never again) When I stop it from allowing relaying no remote users are able to send email. Instead they receive an NDR saying that relaying is not allowed. I am using exchange 2000 with the latest service pack and Outlook Express for the clients. I suspect that I need to alter the way I have it setup. Is there a step by step guide to seting up Exchange for pop3/smtp clients? Regards... Greg List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm