RE: Size of Personal Folders

2001-12-08 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Message



I have 
seen problems/errors before the 2gb too
Like 
800 megs and up

  
  -Original Message-From: BOERO MANSILLA 
  Roberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 
  December 07, 2001 08:41To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders
  2 
  gbs is the largerst..
  i 
  dont knwo if you have select the option of allowupgrade to large tables will 
  let you over exceed that.
  but 
  without that option 2 gbs is the biggest.
  becarefull with that, because i have seen people ( Manager, Vp,etc ) 
  lost everything becuase their .pst file exceeded the 2 gb limit, and 
  outlook will just not open the file anymore.
  
  
  
-Mensaje original-De: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Enviado el: Viernes, 07 de Diciembre de 
2001 09:41 a.m.Para: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesAsunto: 
RE: Size of Personal Folders
Jack,

The server cannot add anymore harddisk. Using2 Compaq 
Proliant 6500 runs as clustered with one diskdisk 
array.
The disk array has 6 18.2G disks, two are raid 0, for the transaction 
logs. Four are raid-5 (1 of them is redundant disk).
It 
turn up the firmware on the raid controller card is quite 
old.
If 
I add one more disk to the disk array I need to redo the raid 5again, 

which is quite a hassle.

Anyway it is the same old story, users do not want to keep old 
mails.
Have double 
the quota twice, from 10 M to 20 then to 40 M. After 6 months they 
come back and ask for
more. We have installed the Mailbox Manager and will purge 
anything that is more than 1 yr old.

Ong LB


  -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - 
  IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 
  2001 8:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Size of Personal Folders
  Anything bigger than 1.99Gb (i.e 2Gb +) will no 
  longer work. Disk space is so cheap at the moment, why not but some 
  more for the server and continue to take advantage of Single Instance 
  Storage (SIS) in Exchange. That way, overall, you will use less disk space 
  all up and ensure that your backups are complete and simpler then using 
  PST's scattered around the place...
  
  HTH
  
  Jack
  

-Original Message-From: ONG Liang 
Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 
12:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of 
Personal FoldersTHIS MESSAGE 
ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer 
below.--
Hi,

I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. 
Have to say this list has save my
ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking 
discussions save me from the GONE.SCR,
Thanks for the tips.

Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an 
answer.

Anybody knows how big can a personal folder 
grow?

The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out 
of disk space. We are due
to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid 
next yr. At the mean time
I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the 
personal folder. I read it somewhere
the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything 
above 1 G is not advisable.
Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 
5.5 standard is 16 G; so
.pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 
1 G, 2 G ...
At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but 
to the mid next yr is a long 
time..

Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One 
more thing I am trying out Antigen,
not bad at all.

Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 
yrs)
Ong LB
Exchange Adminsitrator
National Institute of Education
Nanyang Technological University
Singapore
List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The 
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RE: Size of Personal Folders

2001-12-08 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Message



OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You Synchronize an OST That Is 1.82 GB in 
Size(Q306076)
OL2000: Unable to Use Your Personal Folder File if it Exceeds the 2 
GB Size Limit(Q266709)
OL: Oversized PST and OST Crop 
Tool(Q296088)

Each .pst file can contain 
16,384 items. An item is either a folder, message, task, etc. Each folder can 
contain a maximum of 16,384 items. If you select the option to "Allow upgrade to 
large tables," each folder can contain up to 65,536 items. The total file size 
of a .pst cannot exceed 2 Gigabytes (GB). 

  
  -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu 
  (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 
  07:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of 
  Personal Folders
  Hi,
  
  I 
  have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. Have to say this 
  list has save my
  ass 
  on many occasions. Recently the file blocking discussions save me from 
  the GONE.SCR,
  Thanks for the tips.
  
  Just 
  a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an 
  answer.
  
  Anybody knows how big can a personal folder grow?
  
  The 
  reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out of disk 
  space. We are due
  to 
  an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid next yr. At 
  the mean time
  I am 
  advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the personal folder. 
  I read it somewhere
  the 
  personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything above 1 G is not 
  advisable.
  Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 5.5 
  standard is 16 G; so
  .pst 
  must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 1 G, 2 G 
  ...
  At 
  the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but to the mid next 
  yr is a long 
  time..
  
  Any 
  points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One more thing I am 
  trying out Antigen,
  not 
  bad at all.
  
  Many 
  thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 
  yrs)
  Ong 
  LB
  Exchange Adminsitrator
  National Institute of Education
  Nanyang Technological University
  Singapore
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: Size of Personal Folders

2001-12-08 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Message



OSTs 
have the SAME problem 2gig max

  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 
  09:28To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of 
  Personal Folders
  The 
  fact is PST's have a problem at 2 gig. End of discussion for your 
  users. Even if you don't use PST's, mailboxes over 2 gigs is a problem, 
  because one DR method might include using EXMERGE, which creates PST's. 
  
  
-Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:41 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of 
Personal Folders
Jack,

The server cannot add anymore harddisk. Using2 Compaq 
Proliant 6500 runs as clustered with one diskdisk 
array.
The disk array has 6 18.2G disks, two are raid 0, for the transaction 
logs. Four are raid-5 (1 of them is redundant disk).
It 
turn up the firmware on the raid controller card is quite 
old.
If 
I add one more disk to the disk array I need to redo the raid 5again, 

which is quite a hassle.

Anyway it is the same old story, users do not want to keep old 
mails.
Have double 
the quota twice, from 10 M to 20 then to 40 M. After 6 months they 
come back and ask for
more. We have installed the Mailbox Manager and will purge 
anything that is more than 1 yr old.

Ong LB


  -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - 
  IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 
  2001 8:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Size of Personal Folders
  Anything bigger than 1.99Gb (i.e 2Gb +) will no 
  longer work. Disk space is so cheap at the moment, why not but some 
  more for the server and continue to take advantage of Single Instance 
  Storage (SIS) in Exchange. That way, overall, you will use less disk space 
  all up and ensure that your backups are complete and simpler then using 
  PST's scattered around the place...
  
  HTH
  
  Jack
  

-Original Message-From: ONG Liang 
Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 
12:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of 
Personal FoldersTHIS MESSAGE 
ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer 
below.--
Hi,

I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. 
Have to say this list has save my
ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking 
discussions save me from the GONE.SCR,
Thanks for the tips.

Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an 
answer.

Anybody knows how big can a personal folder 
grow?

The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out 
of disk space. We are due
to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid 
next yr. At the mean time
I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the 
personal folder. I read it somewhere
the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything 
above 1 G is not advisable.
Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 
5.5 standard is 16 G; so
.pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 
1 G, 2 G ...
At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but 
to the mid next yr is a long 
time..

Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One 
more thing I am trying out Antigen,
not bad at all.

Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 
yrs)
Ong LB
Exchange Adminsitrator
National Institute of Education
Nanyang Technological University
Singapore
List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The 
following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to 
comply with a Royal  Sun Alliance IT Security 
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information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly 
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authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed.If you 
have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or 
IT security 
contact.--List 
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RE: Size of Personal Folders

2001-12-07 Thread BOERO MANSILLA Roberto
Title: Message



2 gbs 
is the largerst..
i dont 
knwo if you have select the option of allowupgrade to large tables will let you 
over exceed that.
but 
without that option 2 gbs is the biggest.
becarefull with that, because i have seen people ( Manager, Vp,etc ) 
lost everything becuase their .pst file exceeded the 2 gb limit, and 
outlook will just not open the file anymore.



  -Mensaje original-De: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Enviado el: Viernes, 07 de Diciembre de 
  2001 09:41 a.m.Para: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesAsunto: RE: 
  Size of Personal Folders
  Jack,
  
  The 
  server cannot add anymore harddisk. Using2 Compaq Proliant 6500 
  runs as clustered with one diskdisk array.
  The 
  disk array has 6 18.2G disks, two are raid 0, for the transaction logs. Four 
  are raid-5 (1 of them is redundant disk).
  It 
  turn up the firmware on the raid controller card is quite 
  old.
  If I 
  add one more disk to the disk array I need to redo the raid 5again, 
  
  which is quite a hassle.
  
  Anyway it is the same old story, users do not want to keep old 
  mails.
  Have double the 
  quota twice, from 10 M to 20 then to 40 M. After 6 months they come back 
  and ask for
  more. We have installed the Mailbox Manager and will purge 
  anything that is more than 1 yr old.
  
  Ong 
  LB
  
  
-Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 
8:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size 
of Personal Folders
Anything bigger than 1.99Gb (i.e 2Gb +) will no longer work. Disk 
space is so cheap at the moment, why not but some more for the server and 
continue to take advantage of Single Instance Storage (SIS) in Exchange. 
That way, overall, you will use less disk space all up and ensure that your 
backups are complete and simpler then using PST's scattered around the 
place...

HTH

Jack

  
  -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu 
  (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 
  12:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of 
  Personal FoldersTHIS MESSAGE 
  ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer 
  below.--
  Hi,
  
  I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. Have 
  to say this list has save my
  ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking discussions 
  save me from the GONE.SCR,
  Thanks for the tips.
  
  Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an 
  answer.
  
  Anybody knows how big can a personal folder 
  grow?
  
  The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out of 
  disk space. We are due
  to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid next 
  yr. At the mean time
  I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the 
  personal folder. I read it somewhere
  the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything 
  above 1 G is not advisable.
  Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 
  5.5 standard is 16 G; so
  .pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 1 
  G, 2 G ...
  At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but 
  to the mid next yr is a long 
  time..
  
  Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One more 
  thing I am trying out Antigen,
  not bad at all.
  
  Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 
  yrs)
  Ong LB
  Exchange Adminsitrator
  National Institute of Education
  Nanyang Technological University
  Singapore
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The 
  following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to 
  comply with a Royal  Sun Alliance IT Security requirement:As 
  this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its 
  origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or 
  legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases 
  you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate 
  encryption is employed.If you have any questions, please speak to 
  your local desktop support team or IT security 
  contact.--List 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: Size of Personal Folders

2001-12-07 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: Message



The 
fact is PST's have a problem at 2 gig. End of discussion for your 
users. Even if you don't use PST's, mailboxes over 2 gigs is a problem, 
because one DR method might include using EXMERGE, which creates PST's. 


  -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:41 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of 
  Personal Folders
  Jack,
  
  The 
  server cannot add anymore harddisk. Using2 Compaq Proliant 6500 
  runs as clustered with one diskdisk array.
  The 
  disk array has 6 18.2G disks, two are raid 0, for the transaction logs. Four 
  are raid-5 (1 of them is redundant disk).
  It 
  turn up the firmware on the raid controller card is quite 
  old.
  If I 
  add one more disk to the disk array I need to redo the raid 5again, 
  
  which is quite a hassle.
  
  Anyway it is the same old story, users do not want to keep old 
  mails.
  Have double the 
  quota twice, from 10 M to 20 then to 40 M. After 6 months they come back 
  and ask for
  more. We have installed the Mailbox Manager and will purge 
  anything that is more than 1 yr old.
  
  Ong 
  LB
  
  
-Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 
8:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size 
of Personal Folders
Anything bigger than 1.99Gb (i.e 2Gb +) will no longer work. Disk 
space is so cheap at the moment, why not but some more for the server and 
continue to take advantage of Single Instance Storage (SIS) in Exchange. 
That way, overall, you will use less disk space all up and ensure that your 
backups are complete and simpler then using PST's scattered around the 
place...

HTH

Jack

  
  -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu 
  (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 
  12:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of 
  Personal FoldersTHIS MESSAGE 
  ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer 
  below.--
  Hi,
  
  I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. Have 
  to say this list has save my
  ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking discussions 
  save me from the GONE.SCR,
  Thanks for the tips.
  
  Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an 
  answer.
  
  Anybody knows how big can a personal folder 
  grow?
  
  The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out of 
  disk space. We are due
  to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid next 
  yr. At the mean time
  I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the 
  personal folder. I read it somewhere
  the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything 
  above 1 G is not advisable.
  Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 
  5.5 standard is 16 G; so
  .pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 1 
  G, 2 G ...
  At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but 
  to the mid next yr is a long 
  time..
  
  Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One more 
  thing I am trying out Antigen,
  not bad at all.
  
  Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 
  yrs)
  Ong LB
  Exchange Adminsitrator
  National Institute of Education
  Nanyang Technological University
  Singapore
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The 
  following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to 
  comply with a Royal  Sun Alliance IT Security requirement:As 
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  origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or 
  legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases 
  you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate 
  encryption is employed.If you have any questions, please speak to 
  your local desktop support team or IT security 
  contact.--List 
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  Charter and FAQ 
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