RE: Size of Personal Folders
Title: Message I have seen problems/errors before the 2gb too Like 800 megs and up -Original Message-From: BOERO MANSILLA Roberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 08:41To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders 2 gbs is the largerst.. i dont knwo if you have select the option of allowupgrade to large tables will let you over exceed that. but without that option 2 gbs is the biggest. becarefull with that, because i have seen people ( Manager, Vp,etc ) lost everything becuase their .pst file exceeded the 2 gb limit, and outlook will just not open the file anymore. -Mensaje original-De: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Enviado el: Viernes, 07 de Diciembre de 2001 09:41 a.m.Para: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesAsunto: RE: Size of Personal Folders Jack, The server cannot add anymore harddisk. Using2 Compaq Proliant 6500 runs as clustered with one diskdisk array. The disk array has 6 18.2G disks, two are raid 0, for the transaction logs. Four are raid-5 (1 of them is redundant disk). It turn up the firmware on the raid controller card is quite old. If I add one more disk to the disk array I need to redo the raid 5again, which is quite a hassle. Anyway it is the same old story, users do not want to keep old mails. Have double the quota twice, from 10 M to 20 then to 40 M. After 6 months they come back and ask for more. We have installed the Mailbox Manager and will purge anything that is more than 1 yr old. Ong LB -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders Anything bigger than 1.99Gb (i.e 2Gb +) will no longer work. Disk space is so cheap at the moment, why not but some more for the server and continue to take advantage of Single Instance Storage (SIS) in Exchange. That way, overall, you will use less disk space all up and ensure that your backups are complete and simpler then using PST's scattered around the place... HTH Jack -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 12:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of Personal FoldersTHIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below.-- Hi, I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. Have to say this list has save my ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking discussions save me from the GONE.SCR, Thanks for the tips. Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an answer. Anybody knows how big can a personal folder grow? The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out of disk space. We are due to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid next yr. At the mean time I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the personal folder. I read it somewhere the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything above 1 G is not advisable. Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 5.5 standard is 16 G; so .pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 1 G, 2 G ... At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but to the mid next yr is a long time.. Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One more thing I am trying out Antigen, not bad at all. Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 yrs) Ong LB Exchange Adminsitrator National Institute of Education Nanyang Technological University Singapore List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement:As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption
RE: Size of Personal Folders
Title: Message OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You Synchronize an OST That Is 1.82 GB in Size(Q306076) OL2000: Unable to Use Your Personal Folder File if it Exceeds the 2 GB Size Limit(Q266709) OL: Oversized PST and OST Crop Tool(Q296088) Each .pst file can contain 16,384 items. An item is either a folder, message, task, etc. Each folder can contain a maximum of 16,384 items. If you select the option to "Allow upgrade to large tables," each folder can contain up to 65,536 items. The total file size of a .pst cannot exceed 2 Gigabytes (GB). -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 07:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of Personal Folders Hi, I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. Have to say this list has save my ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking discussions save me from the GONE.SCR, Thanks for the tips. Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an answer. Anybody knows how big can a personal folder grow? The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out of disk space. We are due to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid next yr. At the mean time I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the personal folder. I read it somewhere the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything above 1 G is not advisable. Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 5.5 standard is 16 G; so .pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 1 G, 2 G ... At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but to the mid next yr is a long time.. Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One more thing I am trying out Antigen, not bad at all. Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 yrs) Ong LB Exchange Adminsitrator National Institute of Education Nanyang Technological University Singapore List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Size of Personal Folders
Title: Message OSTs have the SAME problem 2gig max -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 09:28To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders The fact is PST's have a problem at 2 gig. End of discussion for your users. Even if you don't use PST's, mailboxes over 2 gigs is a problem, because one DR method might include using EXMERGE, which creates PST's. -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:41 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders Jack, The server cannot add anymore harddisk. Using2 Compaq Proliant 6500 runs as clustered with one diskdisk array. The disk array has 6 18.2G disks, two are raid 0, for the transaction logs. Four are raid-5 (1 of them is redundant disk). It turn up the firmware on the raid controller card is quite old. If I add one more disk to the disk array I need to redo the raid 5again, which is quite a hassle. Anyway it is the same old story, users do not want to keep old mails. Have double the quota twice, from 10 M to 20 then to 40 M. After 6 months they come back and ask for more. We have installed the Mailbox Manager and will purge anything that is more than 1 yr old. Ong LB -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders Anything bigger than 1.99Gb (i.e 2Gb +) will no longer work. Disk space is so cheap at the moment, why not but some more for the server and continue to take advantage of Single Instance Storage (SIS) in Exchange. That way, overall, you will use less disk space all up and ensure that your backups are complete and simpler then using PST's scattered around the place... HTH Jack -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 12:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of Personal FoldersTHIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below.-- Hi, I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. Have to say this list has save my ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking discussions save me from the GONE.SCR, Thanks for the tips. Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an answer. Anybody knows how big can a personal folder grow? The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out of disk space. We are due to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid next yr. At the mean time I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the personal folder. I read it somewhere the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything above 1 G is not advisable. Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 5.5 standard is 16 G; so .pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 1 G, 2 G ... At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but to the mid next yr is a long time.. Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One more thing I am trying out Antigen, not bad at all. Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 yrs) Ong LB Exchange Adminsitrator National Institute of Education Nanyang Technological University Singapore List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement:As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed.If you have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or IT security contact.--List Charter
RE: Size of Personal Folders
Title: Message 2 gbs is the largerst.. i dont knwo if you have select the option of allowupgrade to large tables will let you over exceed that. but without that option 2 gbs is the biggest. becarefull with that, because i have seen people ( Manager, Vp,etc ) lost everything becuase their .pst file exceeded the 2 gb limit, and outlook will just not open the file anymore. -Mensaje original-De: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Enviado el: Viernes, 07 de Diciembre de 2001 09:41 a.m.Para: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesAsunto: RE: Size of Personal Folders Jack, The server cannot add anymore harddisk. Using2 Compaq Proliant 6500 runs as clustered with one diskdisk array. The disk array has 6 18.2G disks, two are raid 0, for the transaction logs. Four are raid-5 (1 of them is redundant disk). It turn up the firmware on the raid controller card is quite old. If I add one more disk to the disk array I need to redo the raid 5again, which is quite a hassle. Anyway it is the same old story, users do not want to keep old mails. Have double the quota twice, from 10 M to 20 then to 40 M. After 6 months they come back and ask for more. We have installed the Mailbox Manager and will purge anything that is more than 1 yr old. Ong LB -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders Anything bigger than 1.99Gb (i.e 2Gb +) will no longer work. Disk space is so cheap at the moment, why not but some more for the server and continue to take advantage of Single Instance Storage (SIS) in Exchange. That way, overall, you will use less disk space all up and ensure that your backups are complete and simpler then using PST's scattered around the place... HTH Jack -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 12:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of Personal FoldersTHIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below.-- Hi, I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. Have to say this list has save my ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking discussions save me from the GONE.SCR, Thanks for the tips. Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an answer. Anybody knows how big can a personal folder grow? The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out of disk space. We are due to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid next yr. At the mean time I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the personal folder. I read it somewhere the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything above 1 G is not advisable. Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 5.5 standard is 16 G; so .pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 1 G, 2 G ... At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but to the mid next yr is a long time.. Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One more thing I am trying out Antigen, not bad at all. Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 yrs) Ong LB Exchange Adminsitrator National Institute of Education Nanyang Technological University Singapore List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement:As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed.If you have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or IT security contact.--List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Size of Personal Folders
Title: Message The fact is PST's have a problem at 2 gig. End of discussion for your users. Even if you don't use PST's, mailboxes over 2 gigs is a problem, because one DR method might include using EXMERGE, which creates PST's. -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:41 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders Jack, The server cannot add anymore harddisk. Using2 Compaq Proliant 6500 runs as clustered with one diskdisk array. The disk array has 6 18.2G disks, two are raid 0, for the transaction logs. Four are raid-5 (1 of them is redundant disk). It turn up the firmware on the raid controller card is quite old. If I add one more disk to the disk array I need to redo the raid 5again, which is quite a hassle. Anyway it is the same old story, users do not want to keep old mails. Have double the quota twice, from 10 M to 20 then to 40 M. After 6 months they come back and ask for more. We have installed the Mailbox Manager and will purge anything that is more than 1 yr old. Ong LB -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Size of Personal Folders Anything bigger than 1.99Gb (i.e 2Gb +) will no longer work. Disk space is so cheap at the moment, why not but some more for the server and continue to take advantage of Single Instance Storage (SIS) in Exchange. That way, overall, you will use less disk space all up and ensure that your backups are complete and simpler then using PST's scattered around the place... HTH Jack -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 12:19To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Size of Personal FoldersTHIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below.-- Hi, I have been a lurker in this list for the past two yrs. Have to say this list has save my ass on many occasions. Recently the file blocking discussions save me from the GONE.SCR, Thanks for the tips. Just a simple question I will not mind if I do not get an answer. Anybody knows how big can a personal folder grow? The reason I asked is my users are growing and I am running out of disk space. We are due to an upgrading from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 at the mid next yr. At the mean time I am advising the users to temporary pull their mails to the personal folder. I read it somewhere the personal folder cannot be too large. In fact anything above 1 G is not advisable. Definitely Microsoft must have a design spec, say .edb file in Ex 5.5 standard is 16 G; so .pst must have a design limitation. It will not be safe for 1 G, 2 G ... At the moment I am advising them not to have it more than 1G, but to the mid next yr is a long time.. Any points to enlighten on this issue is appreciatd. One more thing I am trying out Antigen, not bad at all. Many thanks (sincerely thanks for the many tips for the past 2 yrs) Ong LB Exchange Adminsitrator National Institute of Education Nanyang Technological University Singapore List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm--The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement:As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed.If you have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or IT security contact.--List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm