RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-21 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
We've got some users with pretty long whitelists from their plugins--I haven't 
seen a limit hit yet, but haven't looked for it either.  A couple of 
issues/limitations we've run into with the barracuda plugin to be aware of:

1)  User can't view their whitelist/blacklist directly from the plugin.  So 
for example, they start getting spam from 
some.address.they.do.not.k...@somewhere.com.  They tag it for spam, but keep 
getting them every day.  I go onto the barracuda and discover it's an address 
they whitelisted at some point in time.  With our industry (Edu), it usually 
turns out to be a teacher or student they had in a previous year but don't need 
any longer, and they don't know or remember that they whitelisted it.

2)  User gets e-mails from a mailing list that appear to be from 
u...@mailing.list.  Real address it comes from will be something like 
super-random-id-changes-each-mess...@some.mail.service.  When they use the 
green button in the Outlook plugin, instead of whitelisting the 
u...@mailing.list address, it whitelists the random one from the mailing 
service.  They end up having to whitelist every day, and get frustrated, not 
knowing they keep adding a different address each time.  The fix is have the 
user to go to the web page to add to the address or domain explicitly to their 
whitelist.

3)  User can't blacklist directly from the plugin at all--they must go to 
the web page.

4)  Barracuda often updates the plugin but doesn't info on it every time in 
the release notes for firmware.  Every time I update firmware, I just download 
it now and compare to the one we're currently running.

And some of it is training--people don't always realize the differences of 
using the green and red buttons, plus attempting to use junk filtering in 
Outlook (which doesn't work for us with very little cached mode set up).

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

Just to be clear...

The Barracuda addin for Outlook doesn't categorize anything on its own
- the appliance does that.

What the addin does is allow the user to mark emails that get past the 
Barracuda as either ham or spam.

If marked as spam, it sends the email to the deleted items folder, but if it's 
ham it just lets the email sit there.

It then sends the user's choice to the applicance, which then updates the 
Bayesian database.

Given that, I'm pretty sure there's a time limit on marking incoming mail 
(probably to match what's in the web interface), but I haven't tested that to 
confirm..

Kurt

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've had the Trend Outlook addin install by accident on a few users 
 and they absolutely hate it.  Even though on the console I had it set 
 to disable, it installed anyway.  Miscategorized many messageswould never 
 use it.


 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ransom, Charles A rans...@gao.gov wrote:

 Interesting   We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for
 just that reason - a Outlook addin.

 Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server 
 that has an Outlook Addin?

 This is just in case the question comes back up...

 KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task

 I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive.


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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-21 Thread Kurt Buff
The version of the plugin we have doesn't offer whitelisting, AFAICT,
just marking ham and spam - the white/black lists are only available
through the web interface.

I've never found the Outlook Junk Mail Filter to be useful, and in
conjunction with the Barracuda's addin and web interface it just
confuses users - I urge them to turn it off.

It definitely does require training the users - I've given a couple of
brownbag sessions on spam and the tools used to manage it.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote:
 We've got some users with pretty long whitelists from their plugins--I 
 haven't seen a limit hit yet, but haven't looked for it either.  A couple of 
 issues/limitations we've run into with the barracuda plugin to be aware of:

 1)  User can't view their whitelist/blacklist directly from the plugin.  
 So for example, they start getting spam from 
 some.address.they.do.not.k...@somewhere.com.  They tag it for spam, but keep 
 getting them every day.  I go onto the barracuda and discover it's an address 
 they whitelisted at some point in time.  With our industry (Edu), it usually 
 turns out to be a teacher or student they had in a previous year but don't 
 need any longer, and they don't know or remember that they whitelisted it.

 2)  User gets e-mails from a mailing list that appear to be from 
 u...@mailing.list.  Real address it comes from will be something like 
 super-random-id-changes-each-mess...@some.mail.service.  When they use the 
 green button in the Outlook plugin, instead of whitelisting the 
 u...@mailing.list address, it whitelists the random one from the mailing 
 service.  They end up having to whitelist every day, and get frustrated, not 
 knowing they keep adding a different address each time.  The fix is have the 
 user to go to the web page to add to the address or domain explicitly to 
 their whitelist.

 3)  User can't blacklist directly from the plugin at all--they must go to 
 the web page.

 4)  Barracuda often updates the plugin but doesn't info on it every time 
 in the release notes for firmware.  Every time I update firmware, I just 
 download it now and compare to the one we're currently running.

 And some of it is training--people don't always realize the differences of 
 using the green and red buttons, plus attempting to use junk filtering in 
 Outlook (which doesn't work for us with very little cached mode set up).

 -Bonnie

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:25 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

 Just to be clear...

 The Barracuda addin for Outlook doesn't categorize anything on its own
 - the appliance does that.

 What the addin does is allow the user to mark emails that get past the 
 Barracuda as either ham or spam.

 If marked as spam, it sends the email to the deleted items folder, but if 
 it's ham it just lets the email sit there.

 It then sends the user's choice to the applicance, which then updates the 
 Bayesian database.

 Given that, I'm pretty sure there's a time limit on marking incoming mail 
 (probably to match what's in the web interface), but I haven't tested that to 
 confirm..

 Kurt

 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've had the Trend Outlook addin install by accident on a few users
 and they absolutely hate it.  Even though on the console I had it set
 to disable, it installed anyway.  Miscategorized many messageswould 
 never use it.


 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ransom, Charles A rans...@gao.gov wrote:

 Interesting   We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for
 just that reason - a Outlook addin.

 Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server
 that has an Outlook Addin?

 This is just in case the question comes back up...

 KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task

 I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive.


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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-20 Thread Ransom, Charles A
Interesting   We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for just 
that reason - a Outlook addin.

Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server that has 
an Outlook Addin?  

This is just in case the question comes back up...

KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task

I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive. 


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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-20 Thread Steve Ens
I've had the Trend Outlook addin install by accident on a few users and
they absolutely hate it.  Even though on the console I had it set to
disable, it installed anyway.  Miscategorized many messageswould never
use it.


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ransom, Charles A rans...@gao.gov wrote:

 Interesting   We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for
 just that reason - a Outlook addin.

 Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server that
 has an Outlook Addin?

 This is just in case the question comes back up...

 KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task

 I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive.


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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-20 Thread Kurt Buff
Just to be clear...

The Barracuda addin for Outlook doesn't categorize anything on its own
- the appliance does that.

What the addin does is allow the user to mark emails that get past the
Barracuda as either ham or spam.

If marked as spam, it sends the email to the deleted items folder, but
if it's ham it just lets the email sit there.

It then sends the user's choice to the applicance, which then updates
the Bayesian database.

Given that, I'm pretty sure there's a time limit on marking incoming
mail (probably to match what's in the web interface), but I haven't
tested that to confirm..

Kurt

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've had the Trend Outlook addin install by accident on a few users and they
 absolutely hate it.  Even though on the console I had it set to disable, it
 installed anyway.  Miscategorized many messageswould never use it.


 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ransom, Charles A rans...@gao.gov wrote:

 Interesting   We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for
 just that reason - a Outlook addin.

 Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server that
 has an Outlook Addin?

 This is just in case the question comes back up...

 KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task

 I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive.


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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-12 Thread Tim Evans
Yes, Micheal had a falling out with one of the developers and left the project. 
It is worse off for it now, too. Fortunately, another developer has come on 
board and has been making a lot more improvements, plus he is easier to get 
along with too. I don't mind that the project is in Perl because I don't have 
to deal with the code. It's a pretty solid piece of work if you stick with the 
stable version.

...Tim

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this list 
actually used
to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of ware, only shame is that its 
Perl.

If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:)

jlc

From: Tim Evans
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp.

...Tim

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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-12 Thread Steven Alfano
We use Sendmail (http://www.sendmail.com) for edge / AntiSpam / Antivirus; 
Symantec Endpoint for servers and clients, and Symantec SMSMSE on Mailbox 
Servers. I don't know price but the Symantec is part of bundle package and very 
reasonable.  Sendmail is extremely flexible edge routing product; if you have 
the need.  We have not found any other product that can do what they do, at any 
price.  We have a pretty good success rate of stopping spam but phishing is 
another story.

Steven Alfano
The Rockefeller University
salf...@rockefeller.edu

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: what spam or edge server are you using?

I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for 
Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern since 
that has not been decided on yet.

Thanks,

Jimmy


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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-12 Thread Jimmy Tran
Thanks!  For some reason I was thinking sendmail was postini.  I'll give
sendmail a shot.  That's probably the solution I'm looking for.

 

Thanks

 

From: Steven Alfano [mailto:salf...@mail.rockefeller.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

 

We use Sendmail (http://www.sendmail.com) for edge / AntiSpam /
Antivirus; Symantec Endpoint for servers and clients, and Symantec
SMSMSE on Mailbox Servers. I don't know price but the Symantec is part
of bundle package and very reasonable.  Sendmail is extremely flexible
edge routing product; if you have the need.  We have not found any other
product that can do what they do, at any price.  We have a pretty good
success rate of stopping spam but phishing is another story.  

 

Steven Alfano

The Rockefeller University

salf...@rockefeller.edu

 

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: what spam or edge server are you using?

 

I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for
Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern
since that has not been decided on yet.

 

Thanks,

 

Jimmy

 

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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Steve Ens
Vipre - GFI. Works pretty decent.  Great technical support.


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.com wrote:

 I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for
 Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern
 since that has not been decided on yet.

 ** **

 Thanks,

 ** **

 Jimmy

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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Adm
We use Trend IMSVA. Note: We also use Trend anti virus on on our
workstations and servers.
I do not know the cost.


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Vipre - GFI. Works pretty decent.  Great technical support.


 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.comwrote:

 I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for
 Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern
 since that has not been decided on yet.

 ** **

 Thanks,

 ** **

 Jimmy

 ** **

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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Damien Solodow
We use Brightmail (aka Symantec Messaging Gateway) and it's quite nice.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: what spam or edge server are you using?

I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for 
Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern since 
that has not been decided on yet.

Thanks,

Jimmy


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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Steve Hart
We're using SpamTitan with Exchange 2007.  Haven't tried 2010 yet. Works pretty 
well for our small shop (~100 mailboxes). Has a few issues with multiple 
domains.



Steve Hart
Network Administrator
503.491.4343 -Direct | 503.492.8160 - Fax

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: what spam or edge server are you using?

I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for 
Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern since 
that has not been decided on yet.

Thanks,

Jimmy


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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Johnson
I can highly reccomend Microsoft's FOPE service as opposed to an actual 
appliance etc. 
Sent on the run!

On 11 Mar 2013, at 19:32, Steve Hart sh...@wrightbg.com wrote:

 We’re using SpamTitan with Exchange 2007.  Haven’t tried 2010 yet. Works 
 pretty well for our small shop (~100 mailboxes). Has a few issues with 
 multiple domains.
  
  
  
 Steve Hart
 Network Administrator
 503.491.4343 -Direct | 503.492.8160 - Fax
 From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] 
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:10 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: what spam or edge server are you using?
  
 I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for 
 Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern since 
 that has not been decided on yet.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Jimmy
  
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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Richard Stovall
Quite happy with my Barracuda.
On Mar 11, 2013 11:17 AM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.com wrote:

 I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for
 Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern
 since that has not been decided on yet.

 ** **

 Thanks,

 ** **

 Jimmy

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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Ralph Smith
Been using SpamTitan for a few years.  It comes with Kaspersky AV and
also has Clam AV.  It works well for us with  ~200 mailboxes, single
domain. Reasonably priced.  Can't compare it to other products as we
haven't used any.  It is supposed to be able to be clustered and handle
multiple domains but I haven't used those features.  The few times I've
needed tech support I have opened a ticket through their web site.  They
have always responded quickly - the support method is usually to open a
secure tunnel through the administrative interface and they work on it
remotely.  

 

 

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: what spam or edge server are you using?

 

I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for
Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern
since that has not been decided on yet.

 

Thanks,

 

Jimmy

 

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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.com wrote:
 I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for
 Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern since
 that has not been decided on yet.

We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task

I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and
unobtrusive. But you do have to educate the users to do more than
merely mark spam as it comes in - they also need to mark ham/non-spam
when it arrives also, or else the Bayesian learning doesn't work so
well.

Kurt

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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Jimmy Tran
Any recommendations for ones that are free if not near free?  I'd like
to have something hosted on my servers for long term testing purposes?

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

 

I've managed a couple of Barracuda 800s as second tier AV/SPAM gateways.
Primary protection is provided by Postini (soon to be Google Apps).
They're really easy to configure and manage, clustering is a breeze, and
for the most part they just work. There's only been a couple of
occassions in the last few years where I've lost access to the interface
requiring a power cycle of the appliance. It hasn't been enough of an
issue for me to contact support yet. I don't remember the exact cost but
I'm pretty sure they were middle of the road. 

 

- Sean

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.com
wrote:

I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for
Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern
since that has not been decided on yet.

 

Thanks,

 

Jimmy

 

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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Tim Evans
I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp.

...Tim

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

Any recommendations for ones that are free if not near free?  I'd like to have 
something hosted on my servers for long term testing purposes?

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

I've managed a couple of Barracuda 800s as second tier AV/SPAM gateways. 
Primary protection is provided by Postini (soon to be Google Apps). They're 
really easy to configure and manage, clustering is a breeze, and for the most 
part they just work. There's only been a couple of occassions in the last few 
years where I've lost access to the interface requiring a power cycle of the 
appliance. It hasn't been enough of an issue for me to contact support yet. I 
don't remember the exact cost but I'm pretty sure they were middle of the road.

- Sean
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jimmy Tran 
ji...@jt-solution.commailto:ji...@jt-solution.com wrote:
I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for 
Exchange 2010.  What do you all recommend or use?  Budget is a concern since 
that has not been decided on yet.

Thanks,

Jimmy


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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this list 
actually used
to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of ware, only shame is that its 
Perl.

If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:)

jlc

From: Tim Evans
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp.

...Tim

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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Kurt Buff
Paging Mr. Espinola...

Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please...

Kurt

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale
jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this list
 actually used
 to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of ware, only shame is that its
 Perl.

 If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:)

 jlc
 
 From: Tim Evans
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

 I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available
 at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp.



 …Tim

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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Dude, you called him out? That was not a particularly pleasant ordeal...



From: Kurt Buff
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Paging Mr. Espinola...

Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please...

Kurt

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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
I still chat with him on FB, but have not seen him here in a long time...

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

Paging Mr. Espinola...

Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please...

Kurt

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com 
wrote:
 No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this 
 list actually used to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of 
 ware, only shame is that its Perl.

 If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:)

 jlc
 
 From: Tim Evans
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

 I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program 
 available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp.



 …Tim

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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Kurt Buff
Don't know anything about that - all I know is that he touted it for
quite a while, and I actually looked it over before settling on Maia
Mailguard.

Bringing up ASSP brought him back to mind, and I haven't seen him here
in a long while.

Hope he's doing well, really. He added a lot to the list.

Kurt

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Joseph L. Casale
jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 Dude, you called him out? That was not a particularly pleasant ordeal...


 
 From: Kurt Buff
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:45 PM
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 Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

 Paging Mr. Espinola...

 Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please...

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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Kurt Buff
Truth. I don't do FB, and the list is lesser for him being gone.

Kurt

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 I still chat with him on FB, but have not seen him here in a long time...

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:45 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

 Paging Mr. Espinola...

 Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please...

 Kurt

 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com 
 wrote:
 No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this
 list actually used to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of
 ware, only shame is that its Perl.

 If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:)

 jlc
 
 From: Tim Evans
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

 I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program
 available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp.



 …Tim

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RE: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Yeah,
Maia probably is a more enterprisable offering if you could suggest such a 
thing for these apps.
Problem is, its also Perl, blegh...


My current post allots me the privilege of  hacking Python all day, I can't 
tell you how that has
spoiled me:)


jlc



From: Kurt Buff
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

Don't know anything about that - all I know is that he touted it for
quite a while, and I actually looked it over before settling on Maia
Mailguard.

Bringing up ASSP brought him back to mind, and I haven't seen him here
in a long while.

Hope he's doing well, really. He added a lot to the list.

Kurt

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Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

2013-03-11 Thread Kurt Buff
Perl - duct tape of the internet.

Is it 'practical extraction and report language' or 'pathological
eclectic rubbish lister'?

At least with Python you get mandatory formatting...

http://xkcd.com/353/

https://xkcd.com/208/

http://xkcd.com/224/

http://xkcd.com/519/



On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Joseph L. Casale
jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 Yeah,
 Maia probably is a more enterprisable offering if you could suggest such a 
 thing for these apps.
 Problem is, its also Perl, blegh...


 My current post allots me the privilege of  hacking Python all day, I can't 
 tell you how that has
 spoiled me:)


 jlc


 
 From: Kurt Buff
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:13 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using?

 Don't know anything about that - all I know is that he touted it for
 quite a while, and I actually looked it over before settling on Maia
 Mailguard.

 Bringing up ASSP brought him back to mind, and I haven't seen him here
 in a long while.

 Hope he's doing well, really. He added a lot to the list.

 Kurt

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