RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG?
Hi Paul There shouldn't be any major impact on your users except for possibly deploying the HW load balance when the DNS is updated. You might want to consider investigating reducing the TTL on those records or the zone just to speed up the process a bit. Regards [cid:image001.jpg@01CCBA73.D7878510] Peter Johnson I.T Architect United Kingdom: +44 1285 658542 South Africa: +27 11 252 1100 Swaziland: +268 2442 7000 Fax:+27 11 974 7130 Mobile: +2783 306 0019 peter.john...@peterstow.com www.peterstow.comhttp://www.peterstow.com This email message (including attachments) contains information which may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message or from any attachments that were sent with this email, and If you have received this email message in error, please advise the sender by email, and delete the message. Unauthorised disclosure and/or use of information contained in this email may result in civil and criminal liability. Everything in this e-mail and attachments relating to the official business of Peterstow Aquapower is proprietary to the company. Caution should be observed in placing any reliance upon any information contained in this e-mail, which is not intended to be a representation or inducement to make any decision in relation to Peterstow Aquapower. Any decision taken based on the information provided in this e-mail, should only be made after consultation with appropriate legal, regulatory, tax, technical, business, investment, financial, and accounting advisors. Neither the sender of the e-mail, nor Peterstow Aquapower shall be liable to any party for any direct, indirect or consequential damages, including, without limitation, loss of profit, interruption of business or loss of information, data or software or otherwise. The e-mail address of the sender may not be used, copied, sold, disclosed or incorporated into any database or mailing list for spamming and/or other marketing purposes without the prior consent of Peterstow Aquapower. No warranties are created or implied that an employee of Peterstow Aquapower and/or a contractor of Peterstow Aquapower is authorised to create and send this e-mail. [cid:image002.jpg@01CCBA73.D7878510] From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: 14 December 2011 03:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? We currently have a single multi-role Exchange 2010 SP1 box running as a VM. Early next year I'd like to add a second server to give us a two server DAG, and a hardware load balancer. Given I already have a working production server, just how much impact on my users is this likely to cause? We're not a 24/7 shop so five or ten minutes here and there, or downtime for the DNS to switch to the HWLB isn't a big deal, but is there any part of the process which screams two hours of downtime to do this part? Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpg
RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG?
No. Properly planned and executed, it should be seamless. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? We currently have a single multi-role Exchange 2010 SP1 box running as a VM. Early next year I'd like to add a second server to give us a two server DAG, and a hardware load balancer. Given I already have a working production server, just how much impact on my users is this likely to cause? We're not a 24/7 shop so five or ten minutes here and there, or downtime for the DNS to switch to the HWLB isn't a big deal, but is there any part of the process which screams two hours of downtime to do this part? Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG?
Thanks both. Any suggestions on a reputable real-world guide? There are lots but not having done this before I don't know which to trust. http://www.simple-talk.com/sysadmin/exchange/exchange-2010-dag-creation-and-configuration-part-1/ Seems fairly decent and I've used their site before for other stuff which has worked well. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 14 December 2011 13:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? No. Properly planned and executed, it should be seamless. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? We currently have a single multi-role Exchange 2010 SP1 box running as a VM. Early next year I'd like to add a second server to give us a two server DAG, and a hardware load balancer. Given I already have a working production server, just how much impact on my users is this likely to cause? We're not a 24/7 shop so five or ten minutes here and there, or downtime for the DNS to switch to the HWLB isn't a big deal, but is there any part of the process which screams two hours of downtime to do this part? Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG?
I tech-reviewed that article. It's accurate. Neil Hobson is a good author (and he now works for Microsoft UK), as is Henrik Walther, as is Jaap Wesselius, as is Tim McMichael. They have all written extensively on DAGs. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? Thanks both. Any suggestions on a reputable real-world guide? There are lots but not having done this before I don't know which to trust. http://www.simple-talk.com/sysadmin/exchange/exchange-2010-dag-creation-and-configuration-part-1/ Seems fairly decent and I've used their site before for other stuff which has worked well. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 14 December 2011 13:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? No. Properly planned and executed, it should be seamless. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? We currently have a single multi-role Exchange 2010 SP1 box running as a VM. Early next year I'd like to add a second server to give us a two server DAG, and a hardware load balancer. Given I already have a working production server, just how much impact on my users is this likely to cause? We're not a 24/7 shop so five or ten minutes here and there, or downtime for the DNS to switch to the HWLB isn't a big deal, but is there any part of the process which screams two hours of downtime to do this part? Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Adding a second server and going to a DAG?
I'm actually going to do the same exact thing come 2012 Paul. (F5 being my HWLB). Any other docs would be greatly appreciated just the same. Also, if there is a book recommendation out there that maybe spends a little more time on DAG's, I'd relay that over to whoever picked me for Secret Santa this year. =) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: I tech-reviewed that article. It’s accurate. Neil Hobson is a good author (and he now works for Microsoft UK), as is Henrik Walther, as is Jaap Wesselius, as is Tim McMichael. ** ** They have all written extensively on DAGs. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:38 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? ** ** Thanks both. Any suggestions on a reputable real-world guide? There are lots but not having done this before I don’t know which to trust. ** ** http://www.simple-talk.com/sysadmin/exchange/exchange-2010-dag-creation-and-configuration-part-1/ ** ** Seems fairly decent and I’ve used their site before for other stuff which has worked well. ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* 14 December 2011 13:27 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? ** ** No. Properly planned and executed, it should be seamless. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Adding a second server and going to a DAG? ** ** We currently have a single multi-role Exchange 2010 SP1 box running as a VM. ** ** Early next year I’d like to add a second server to give us a two server DAG, and a hardware load balancer. ** ** Given I already have a working production server, just how much impact on my users is this likely to cause? ** ** We’re not a 24/7 shop so five or ten minutes here and there, or downtime for the DNS to switch to the HWLB isn’t a big deal, but is there any part of the process which screams “two hours of downtime to do this part”? ** ** Thanks, Paul -- *MIRA Ltd* ** ** Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 ** ** The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Adding a second server and going to a DAG?
I was looking at the Kemp load balancers. They look pretty decent at a good price. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm actually going to do the same exact thing come 2012 Paul. (F5 being my HWLB). Any other docs would be greatly appreciated just the same. Also, if there is a book recommendation out there that maybe spends a little more time on DAG's, I'd relay that over to whoever picked me for Secret Santa this year. =) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: I tech-reviewed that article. It’s accurate. Neil Hobson is a good author (and he now works for Microsoft UK), as is Henrik Walther, as is Jaap Wesselius, as is Tim McMichael. ** ** They have all written extensively on DAGs. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:38 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? ** ** Thanks both. Any suggestions on a reputable real-world guide? There are lots but not having done this before I don’t know which to trust. ** ** http://www.simple-talk.com/sysadmin/exchange/exchange-2010-dag-creation-and-configuration-part-1/ ** ** Seems fairly decent and I’ve used their site before for other stuff which has worked well. ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* 14 December 2011 13:27 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? ** ** No. Properly planned and executed, it should be seamless. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Adding a second server and going to a DAG? ** ** We currently have a single multi-role Exchange 2010 SP1 box running as a VM. ** ** Early next year I’d like to add a second server to give us a two server DAG, and a hardware load balancer. ** ** Given I already have a working production server, just how much impact on my users is this likely to cause? ** ** We’re not a 24/7 shop so five or ten minutes here and there, or downtime for the DNS to switch to the HWLB isn’t a big deal, but is there any part of the process which screams “two hours of downtime to do this part”? ** ** Thanks, Paul -- *MIRA Ltd* ** ** Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 ** ** The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG?
Microsoft Exchange Server 2010 Inside Out, by Tony Redmond. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? I'm actually going to do the same exact thing come 2012 Paul. (F5 being my HWLB). Any other docs would be greatly appreciated just the same. Also, if there is a book recommendation out there that maybe spends a little more time on DAG's, I'd relay that over to whoever picked me for Secret Santa this year. =) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I tech-reviewed that article. It’s accurate. Neil Hobson is a good author (and he now works for Microsoft UK), as is Henrik Walther, as is Jaap Wesselius, as is Tim McMichael. They have all written extensively on DAGs. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukmailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? Thanks both. Any suggestions on a reputable real-world guide? There are lots but not having done this before I don’t know which to trust. http://www.simple-talk.com/sysadmin/exchange/exchange-2010-dag-creation-and-configuration-part-1/ Seems fairly decent and I’ve used their site before for other stuff which has worked well. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 14 December 2011 13:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? No. Properly planned and executed, it should be seamless. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? We currently have a single multi-role Exchange 2010 SP1 box running as a VM. Early next year I’d like to add a second server to give us a two server DAG, and a hardware load balancer. Given I already have a working production server, just how much impact on my users is this likely to cause? We’re not a 24/7 shop so five or ten minutes here and there, or downtime for the DNS to switch to the HWLB isn’t a big deal, but is there any part of the process which screams “two hours of downtime to do this part”? Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Adding a second server and going to a DAG?
We've got 4 Kemps for about a year, I like them and excellent support. I've posted about them here on the past. Blackberry From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? I was looking at the Kemp load balancers. They look pretty decent at a good price. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm actually going to do the same exact thing come 2012 Paul. (F5 being my HWLB). Any other docs would be greatly appreciated just the same. Also, if there is a book recommendation out there that maybe spends a little more time on DAG's, I'd relay that over to whoever picked me for Secret Santa this year. =) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I tech-reviewed that article. It’s accurate. Neil Hobson is a good author (and he now works for Microsoft UK), as is Henrik Walther, as is Jaap Wesselius, as is Tim McMichael. They have all written extensively on DAGs. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukmailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? Thanks both. Any suggestions on a reputable real-world guide? There are lots but not having done this before I don’t know which to trust. http://www.simple-talk.com/sysadmin/exchange/exchange-2010-dag-creation-and-configuration-part-1/ Seems fairly decent and I’ve used their site before for other stuff which has worked well. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 14 December 2011 13:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? No. Properly planned and executed, it should be seamless. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]mailto:[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server and going to a DAG? We currently have a single multi-role Exchange 2010 SP1 box running as a VM. Early next year I’d like to add a second server to give us a two server DAG, and a hardware load balancer. Given I already have a working production server, just how much impact on my users is this likely to cause? We’re not a 24/7 shop so five or ten minutes here and there, or downtime for the DNS to switch to the HWLB isn’t a big deal, but is there any part of the process which screams “two hours of downtime to do this part”? Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: Adding a second server
Well, this is the kinda thing where I'd want to sit down and do a couple hours of discovery to give you what I think the right answer is. But a couple of yellow flags: 1] Why do you think you need a remote Exchange server? 2] What defines big deal to setup for you? 3] Ever used ILM, MIIS, or IIFP? If not, how were you planning on working password synchronization between the two forests? 4] Are we talking Exchange 2003 or Exchange 2007? 5] how big are the two forests, and why were they set up separately to start with? 6] Do the same business drivers still apply? Now, would I consider this a big deal? Nope. Can Exchange and Windows Server do this? Absolutely. Does it require additional software? Maybe. Is the level of effort appropriate for a SMORG? Maybe not -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server Due to growth of our branch office we will most likely need to have an Exchange server at that site. We only have the one Exchange server now (at the main site) and there is a VPN between the two sites that allows the users at the branch office to access their mailboxes. That office is on a separate domain and forest with trusts setup between the two. This isnt a big deal to setup right? Is the separate forest issue going to be a problem for me going forward? I do need to change the DC at that location and I have been thinking about making it part of the domain for our main office at at least a part of the forest. Any thoughts? James ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Adding a second server
Thanks for the replay, I put some answers below. 1] Why do you think you need a remote Exchange server? We currently have about 80 users at the main office and about about 40 at the branch. The branch will be expanding to about 80 users as well. There are already people complaining of performance issues with their mailboxes currently, though it could be an issue with our ISP. This expansion has led me to think that if we are going to double up over there, we should have a local Exchange server for them. 2] What defines big deal to setup for you? We are a 2 man shop and from the reading I have been doing it doesnt sound like its going to be a big deal, meaning I can get it done in a weekend without affecting the network for the users. We are closed on weekends. 3] Ever used ILM, MIIS, or IIFP? If not, how were you planning on working password synchronization between the two forests? There is only a simple 2000 server DC at the branch office providing files, DNS, DHCP so dropping in a new server setup under the main office forest isnt a big deal. I am not familiar with these Microsoft services for forest integration. 4] Are we talking Exchange 2003 or Exchange 2007? We are running Exchange 2003 but are planning up upgrading to 2007 as part of our expansion. 5] how big are the two forests, and why were they set up separately to start with? Like I said, they are not that large, especially the branch. They were setup separately because we didnt have a connection between the two locations when we first set them up. 6] Do the same business drivers still apply? Yep -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server Due to growth of our branch office we will most likely need to have an Exchange server at that site. We only have the one Exchange server now (at the main site) and there is a VPN between the two sites that allows the users at the branch office to access their mailboxes. That office is on a separate domain and forest with trusts setup between the two. This isnt a big deal to setup right? Is the separate forest issue going to be a problem for me going forward? I do need to change the DC at that location and I have been thinking about making it part of the domain for our main office at at least a part of the forest. Any thoughts? James ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Adding a second server
1] Are the users in cached mode or online mode? I probably wouldn't consider a separate Exchange server for less than a couple of hundred users and then I'd be more concerned about how I was going to split the namespace than anything else because all those emails MUST traverse your WAN at some point or another, if you have multiple Exchange servers. If you use cached mode and Outlook anywhere, they don't - they can stay on your ISP's network, and off yours. 2] doable. 3, 4, 5] I'd probably look at consolidating the forests and if you aren't, switching to Outlook Anywhere with cached mode. The Branch Office scenario you describe are exactly what they are designed to handle. -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adding a second server Thanks for the replay, I put some answers below. 1] Why do you think you need a remote Exchange server? We currently have about 80 users at the main office and about about 40 at the branch. The branch will be expanding to about 80 users as well. There are already people complaining of performance issues with their mailboxes currently, though it could be an issue with our ISP. This expansion has led me to think that if we are going to double up over there, we should have a local Exchange server for them. 2] What defines big deal to setup for you? We are a 2 man shop and from the reading I have been doing it doesnt sound like its going to be a big deal, meaning I can get it done in a weekend without affecting the network for the users. We are closed on weekends. 3] Ever used ILM, MIIS, or IIFP? If not, how were you planning on working password synchronization between the two forests? There is only a simple 2000 server DC at the branch office providing files, DNS, DHCP so dropping in a new server setup under the main office forest isnt a big deal. I am not familiar with these Microsoft services for forest integration. 4] Are we talking Exchange 2003 or Exchange 2007? We are running Exchange 2003 but are planning up upgrading to 2007 as part of our expansion. 5] how big are the two forests, and why were they set up separately to start with? Like I said, they are not that large, especially the branch. They were setup separately because we didnt have a connection between the two locations when we first set them up. 6] Do the same business drivers still apply? Yep -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Adding a second server Due to growth of our branch office we will most likely need to have an Exchange server at that site. We only have the one Exchange server now (at the main site) and there is a VPN between the two sites that allows the users at the branch office to access their mailboxes. That office is on a separate domain and forest with trusts setup between the two. This isnt a big deal to setup right? Is the separate forest issue going to be a problem for me going forward? I do need to change the DC at that location and I have been thinking about making it part of the domain for our main office at at least a part of the forest. Any thoughts? James ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
