RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
I developed a mailman clone under contract in PowerShell (I was originally told 
that they would allow me to release the code, but the client decided not to).

It's really not that difficult. They come in quite handy, but they can 
seriously suck bandwidth for large lists.

Anyway, Exchange 2010 has lots of work that improves distribution group 
capabilities to be closer to mailing lists.


From: Alex Eckelberry [al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

IMHO, just get a cheap Linux box and run Mailman (free and excellent).  Once 
people see how awesomely useful Listservs can be, you'll get requests for more 
of them to be setup anyway.

Alex



From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question…
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Andy Shook
Why not just setup a distribution group and handle that way.  A list-serve for 
10 people is overkill, imo...

Shook

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
Why not use a Distribution Group?  If you need subscribe functionality you 
could use Active Subscriber http://www.ikakura.com/.

For self service Distribution Group add/drop you'll have to wait for Exchange 
2010.  (Did I let the cat out of the bag on that one?)

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



This email and any files transmitted with it are property of SC Telco Federal 
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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Actual list-serv functionality? No.

 

Options:

 

-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free),
but not exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get
the Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have
header info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service
part, still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

 

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange
server... crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

 

-sc

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Getting the reply-to to go to the DL is the trick.

 

-sc

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Why not just setup a distribution group and handle that way.  A
list-serve for 10 people is overkill, imo...

 

Shook

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
[rant]

 

They really mis-represent that product. I DL'ed a demo and went thru all
the installation only to find out that  _THE_ significant feature of a
list-server: rewriting the reply-to address such that the replies come
back to the LIST and not THE SENDER is not part of the product.

 

It's a DL member self-service product, not a list server.

 

[/rant]

 

-sc

 

From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Why not use a Distribution Group?  If you need subscribe functionality
you could use Active Subscriber http://www.ikakura.com/.

 

For self service Distribution Group add/drop you'll have to wait for
Exchange 2010.  (Did I let the cat out of the bag on that one?)

 

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator

E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edu

 

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Derik Peek
My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the people 
in the group to hit reply to all and wanted it set up this way.


I found ikakura online but the cheapest product I found was $750 and it said it 
only supported up to Exchange 2003

Derik

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Why not just setup a distribution group and handle that way.  A list-serve for 
10 people is overkill, imo...

Shook

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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the Credit Union has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are 
present in this email, the Credit Union cannot accept responsibility for any 
loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. Thank you for 
your cooperation.


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your cooperation.


RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when the 
demo of ME runs out

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

Options:


-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free), but not 
exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get the 
Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have header 
info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service part, 
still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange server... 
crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

-sc

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Oh that's right they do:

 

The newest demo (v14) will stop accepting/delivering mail via SMTP when
the demo runs out (although MAPI seems to continue to work). Also, it
seems to strip attachments. Their support line is almost completely
nonresponsive and for them the mail-list functionality seems like an
afterthought.

 

-sc

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when
the demo of ME runs out

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

 

Options:

 

-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free),
but not exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get
the Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have
header info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service
part, still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

 

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange
server... crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

 

-sc

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
The mail list is a freebie, which is why the support for it in non existent...

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Oh that's right they do:

The newest demo (v14) will stop accepting/delivering mail via SMTP when the 
demo runs out (although MAPI seems to continue to work). Also, it seems to 
strip attachments. Their support line is almost completely nonresponsive and 
for them the mail-list functionality seems like an afterthought.

-sc
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when the 
demo of ME runs out

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

Options:


-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free), but not 
exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get the 
Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have header 
info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service part, 
still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange server... 
crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

-sc

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



This email and any files transmitted with it are property of SC Telco Federal 
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message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, 
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prohibited. Warning: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. Although 
the Credit Union has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are 
present in this email, the Credit Union cannot accept responsibility for any 
loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. Thank you for 
your cooperation.


RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
It is?

 

It's part of the MailEssentials suite which is for-purchase only AFAIK.

 

-sc

 

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

The mail list is a freebie, which is why the support for it in non
existent...

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Oh that's right they do:

 

The newest demo (v14) will stop accepting/delivering mail via SMTP when
the demo runs out (although MAPI seems to continue to work). Also, it
seems to strip attachments. Their support line is almost completely
nonresponsive and for them the mail-list functionality seems like an
afterthought.

 

-sc

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when
the demo of ME runs out

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

 

Options:

 

-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free),
but not exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get
the Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have
header info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service
part, still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

 

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange
server... crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

 

-sc

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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Federal Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the
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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
 My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
 people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do 
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled 
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
msgObj.replyTo = myList;
}

~JasonG



RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
 people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do 
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled 
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
msgObj.replyTo = myList;
}

~JasonG




RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when the 
demo of ME runs out

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

It is?

It's part of the MailEssentials suite which is for-purchase only AFAIK.

-sc

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

The mail list is a freebie, which is why the support for it in non existent...

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Oh that's right they do:

The newest demo (v14) will stop accepting/delivering mail via SMTP when the 
demo runs out (although MAPI seems to continue to work). Also, it seems to 
strip attachments. Their support line is almost completely nonresponsive and 
for them the mail-list functionality seems like an afterthought.

-sc
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when the 
demo of ME runs out

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

Options:


-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free), but not 
exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get the 
Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have header 
info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service part, 
still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange server... 
crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

-sc

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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Re: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Harry Singh
Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email
 address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All
 replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.
  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I
 just wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.

 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+-, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

 Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz 
 +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0-jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 +AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
 +AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set
 up this way.

 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.

 Pseudo code:

 if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
 +AH0-

 +AH4-JasonG





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
It's what I do too... now if only the public folder assistant wouldn’t insert 
the Forwarded from... header garbage in the body of the message.

I asked the list about customizing this form/behavior a while back to no 
avail...

:(

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:27 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the
 email address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution
 list.  All replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go
 back to the list.  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv
 functionality.  Initially I just wanted auto-DL type management that
 Ikakura provided.
 
 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
 Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this
 way.
 
 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.
 
 Pseudo code:
 
 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }
 
 ~JasonG
 




RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
Go into the properties of the Public Folder, Administration tab.  There Folder 
Assistant rules could be set up.  These will fire at the server, Outlook does 
not need to be open for them to work.

Another reason why SharePoint does not fill the Public Folder void.  IMO.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.

From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter 
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:
If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+-, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz 
+AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0-mailto:jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0-
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
+AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
+AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set up 
this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
   msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
+AH0-

+AH4-JasonG





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Public Folder assistant button in the propertied for the PF.

 

-sc

 

From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

 

Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?




On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.


-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+-, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864

kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.



-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0- 
mailto:jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0- 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

+AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
+AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set up 
this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
   msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
+AH0-

+AH4-JasonG



 




Re: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Harry Singh
Ahh, i see. I never had a request like this come through me before, but it
sounds like it will.

I thought that PF's were all but dead in exchange 2007 ? I can imagine in
2010 they would be completely done.



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

  Go into the properties of the Public Folder, Administration taÿÿÂ  There
 Folder Assistant rules could be set uÿÿÂ  These will fire at the server,
 Outlook does not need to be open for them to work.



 Another reason why SharePoint does not fill the Public Folder voidÿÿÂ IMO.



 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator

 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu



 Don't become a phishing victimÿÿÂ  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.



 *From:* Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:32 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Listserv on Exchange



 Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?


  On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email
 address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All
 replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.
  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I
 just wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.


 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+-, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864

 kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

 Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.



 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz 
 +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0-jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 +AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
 +AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set
 up this way.

 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.

 Pseudo code:

 if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
 +AH0-

 +AH4-JasonG





Re: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread PRamatowski
Yeah, I played with it for a while with no luck...  Sorry I misunderstood your 
original question, I got it backwards;(

Blackberry

- Original Message -
From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wed Jul 01 14:35:54 2009
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

It's what I do too... now if only the public folder assistant wouldn���t insert 
the Forwarded from... header garbage in the body of the message.

I asked the list about customizing this form/behavior a while back to no 
avail...

:(

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:27 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the
 email address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution
 list.  All replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go
 back to the list.  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv
 functionality.  Initially I just wanted auto-DL type management that
 Ikakura provided.
 
 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
 Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit ���reply to all��� and wanted it set up this
 way.
 
 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.
 
 Pseudo code:
 
 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }
 
 ~JasonG
 





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
ve wondered that too, but know nothing about writing them. ve googled 
for a ���header munge��� event sink doo-dad to no avai.

 

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit reply to all and wanted it set up this
 way.

 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.

 Pseudo code:

 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }

 ~JasonG







RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Well that was o� what I had attempted to respond with (and is even present 
in my Sent Items folder) was:

 

���ve wondered that too, but know nothing about writing them. ve 
googled for a ���header munge��� event sink doo-dad to no avai

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

 

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit reply to all and wanted it set up this
 way.

 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.

 Pseudo code:

 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }

 ~JasonG





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
To get rid of the Forwarded From: garbage set the Method in the rule to 
Leave Message Intact

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

It's what I do too... now if only the public folder assistant wouldn’t insert 
the Forwarded from... header garbage in the body of the message.

I asked the list about customizing this form/behavior a while back to no 
avail...

:(

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:27 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the
 email address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution
 list.  All replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go
 back to the list.  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv
 functionality.  Initially I just wanted auto-DL type management that
 Ikakura provided.
 
 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
 Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this
 way.
 
 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.
 
 Pseudo code:
 
 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }
 
 ~JasonG
 





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Then it screws up the reply-to.

-sc


 -Original Message-
 From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:00 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 To get rid of the Forwarded From: garbage set the Method in the rule
 to Leave Message Intact
 
 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
 Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:36 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 It's what I do too... now if only the public folder assistant wouldn’t
 insert the Forwarded from... header garbage in the body of the
 message.
 
 I asked the list about customizing this form/behavior a while back to
 no avail...
 
 :(
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:27 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
  If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the
  email address desired.  Then have it forward email to the
 distribution
  list.  All replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go
  back to the list.  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv
  functionality.  Initially I just wanted auto-DL type management that
  Ikakura provided.
 
  -
  Thank you,
  Pete Kretche
  MCP, A+, HP APS
  Senior Network/Systems Administrator
  E-mail Administrator
  UW - Green Bay
  Voice: 920.465.5014
  Fax: 920.465.2864
  kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
  Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
  organizations will never use email to request that you reply with
 your
  password, Social Security number or confidential personal
 information.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
   My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
  the
   people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this
  way.
 
  This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was
 reply-
  to:
  munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
  do
  this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail
 enabled
  public folder.
 
  Pseudo code:
 
  if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
  msgObj.replyTo = myList;
  }
 
  ~JasonG
 
 
 




RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Don Andrews
I think reports of their death were somewhat premature.

 



From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

 

Ahh, i see. I never had a request like this come through me before, but it 
sounds like it will.

I thought that PF's were all but dead in exchange 2007 ? I can imagine in 2010 
they would be completely done.




On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

Go into the properties of the Public Folder, Administration taÿÿÂ  There Folder 
Assistant rules could be set uÿÿÂ  These will fire at the server, Outlook does 
not need to be open for them to work.

 

Another reason why SharePoint does not fill the Public Folder voidÿÿÂ IMO.

 

-
Thank you,
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MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator

E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864

kretc...@uwgb.edu 

 

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From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

 

Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.


-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+-, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864

kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
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-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0- 
mailto:jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0- 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

+AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
+AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set up 
this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
   msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
+AH0-

+AH4-JasonG

 

 



RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
Public Folders are alive and well in Exchange 2010.  I was just editorializing 
on how MS has been more-or-less trying to kill them off.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu

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From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

I think reports of their death were somewhat premature.


From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

Ahh, i see. I never had a request like this come through me before, but it 
sounds like it will.

I thought that PF's were all but dead in exchange 2007 ? I can imagine in 2010 
they would be completely done.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kretche, Peter 
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

Go into the properties of the Public Folder, Administration taÿÿÂ  There Folder 
Assistant rules could be set uÿÿÂ  These will fire at the server, Outlook does 
not need to be open for them to work.



Another reason why SharePoint does not fill the Public Folder voidÿÿÂ IMO.



-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu



Don't become a phishing victimÿÿÂ  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.



From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange



Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter 
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+-, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864

kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz 
+AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0-mailto:jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0-
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

+AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
+AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set up 
this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
   msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
+AH0-

+AH4-JasonG





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Alex Eckelberry
IMHO, just get a cheap Linux box and run Mailman (free and excellent).
Once people see how awesomely useful Listservs can be, you'll get
requests for more of them to be setup anyway.  
 
Alex
 



From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange



Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

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