RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
We've got some users with pretty long whitelists from their plugins--I haven't seen a limit hit yet, but haven't looked for it either. A couple of issues/limitations we've run into with the barracuda plugin to be aware of: 1) User can't view their whitelist/blacklist directly from the plugin. So for example, they start getting spam from some.address.they.do.not.k...@somewhere.com. They tag it for spam, but keep getting them every day. I go onto the barracuda and discover it's an address they whitelisted at some point in time. With our industry (Edu), it usually turns out to be a teacher or student they had in a previous year but don't need any longer, and they don't know or remember that they whitelisted it. 2) User gets e-mails from a mailing list that appear to be from u...@mailing.list. Real address it comes from will be something like super-random-id-changes-each-mess...@some.mail.service. When they use the green button in the Outlook plugin, instead of whitelisting the u...@mailing.list address, it whitelists the random one from the mailing service. They end up having to whitelist every day, and get frustrated, not knowing they keep adding a different address each time. The fix is have the user to go to the web page to add to the address or domain explicitly to their whitelist. 3) User can't blacklist directly from the plugin at all--they must go to the web page. 4) Barracuda often updates the plugin but doesn't info on it every time in the release notes for firmware. Every time I update firmware, I just download it now and compare to the one we're currently running. And some of it is training--people don't always realize the differences of using the green and red buttons, plus attempting to use junk filtering in Outlook (which doesn't work for us with very little cached mode set up). -Bonnie -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? Just to be clear... The Barracuda addin for Outlook doesn't categorize anything on its own - the appliance does that. What the addin does is allow the user to mark emails that get past the Barracuda as either ham or spam. If marked as spam, it sends the email to the deleted items folder, but if it's ham it just lets the email sit there. It then sends the user's choice to the applicance, which then updates the Bayesian database. Given that, I'm pretty sure there's a time limit on marking incoming mail (probably to match what's in the web interface), but I haven't tested that to confirm.. Kurt On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I've had the Trend Outlook addin install by accident on a few users and they absolutely hate it. Even though on the console I had it set to disable, it installed anyway. Miscategorized many messageswould never use it. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ransom, Charles A rans...@gao.gov wrote: Interesting We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for just that reason - a Outlook addin. Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server that has an Outlook Addin? This is just in case the question comes back up... KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
The version of the plugin we have doesn't offer whitelisting, AFAICT, just marking ham and spam - the white/black lists are only available through the web interface. I've never found the Outlook Junk Mail Filter to be useful, and in conjunction with the Barracuda's addin and web interface it just confuses users - I urge them to turn it off. It definitely does require training the users - I've given a couple of brownbag sessions on spam and the tools used to manage it. Kurt On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: We've got some users with pretty long whitelists from their plugins--I haven't seen a limit hit yet, but haven't looked for it either. A couple of issues/limitations we've run into with the barracuda plugin to be aware of: 1) User can't view their whitelist/blacklist directly from the plugin. So for example, they start getting spam from some.address.they.do.not.k...@somewhere.com. They tag it for spam, but keep getting them every day. I go onto the barracuda and discover it's an address they whitelisted at some point in time. With our industry (Edu), it usually turns out to be a teacher or student they had in a previous year but don't need any longer, and they don't know or remember that they whitelisted it. 2) User gets e-mails from a mailing list that appear to be from u...@mailing.list. Real address it comes from will be something like super-random-id-changes-each-mess...@some.mail.service. When they use the green button in the Outlook plugin, instead of whitelisting the u...@mailing.list address, it whitelists the random one from the mailing service. They end up having to whitelist every day, and get frustrated, not knowing they keep adding a different address each time. The fix is have the user to go to the web page to add to the address or domain explicitly to their whitelist. 3) User can't blacklist directly from the plugin at all--they must go to the web page. 4) Barracuda often updates the plugin but doesn't info on it every time in the release notes for firmware. Every time I update firmware, I just download it now and compare to the one we're currently running. And some of it is training--people don't always realize the differences of using the green and red buttons, plus attempting to use junk filtering in Outlook (which doesn't work for us with very little cached mode set up). -Bonnie -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? Just to be clear... The Barracuda addin for Outlook doesn't categorize anything on its own - the appliance does that. What the addin does is allow the user to mark emails that get past the Barracuda as either ham or spam. If marked as spam, it sends the email to the deleted items folder, but if it's ham it just lets the email sit there. It then sends the user's choice to the applicance, which then updates the Bayesian database. Given that, I'm pretty sure there's a time limit on marking incoming mail (probably to match what's in the web interface), but I haven't tested that to confirm.. Kurt On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I've had the Trend Outlook addin install by accident on a few users and they absolutely hate it. Even though on the console I had it set to disable, it installed anyway. Miscategorized many messageswould never use it. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ransom, Charles A rans...@gao.gov wrote: Interesting We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for just that reason - a Outlook addin. Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server that has an Outlook Addin? This is just in case the question comes back up... KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
Interesting We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for just that reason - a Outlook addin. Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server that has an Outlook Addin? This is just in case the question comes back up... KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
I've had the Trend Outlook addin install by accident on a few users and they absolutely hate it. Even though on the console I had it set to disable, it installed anyway. Miscategorized many messageswould never use it. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ransom, Charles A rans...@gao.gov wrote: Interesting We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for just that reason - a Outlook addin. Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server that has an Outlook Addin? This is just in case the question comes back up... KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
Just to be clear... The Barracuda addin for Outlook doesn't categorize anything on its own - the appliance does that. What the addin does is allow the user to mark emails that get past the Barracuda as either ham or spam. If marked as spam, it sends the email to the deleted items folder, but if it's ham it just lets the email sit there. It then sends the user's choice to the applicance, which then updates the Bayesian database. Given that, I'm pretty sure there's a time limit on marking incoming mail (probably to match what's in the web interface), but I haven't tested that to confirm.. Kurt On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I've had the Trend Outlook addin install by accident on a few users and they absolutely hate it. Even though on the console I had it set to disable, it installed anyway. Miscategorized many messageswould never use it. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ransom, Charles A rans...@gao.gov wrote: Interesting We were looking (a looong while ago) at Trend Micro for just that reason - a Outlook addin. Other than Barracuda, does anyone know of any other Anti-Spam server that has an Outlook Addin? This is just in case the question comes back up... KB We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
Yes, Micheal had a falling out with one of the developers and left the project. It is worse off for it now, too. Fortunately, another developer has come on board and has been making a lot more improvements, plus he is easier to get along with too. I don't mind that the project is in Perl because I don't have to deal with the code. It's a pretty solid piece of work if you stick with the stable version. ...Tim From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using? No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this list actually used to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of ware, only shame is that its Perl. If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:) jlc From: Tim Evans Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using? I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp. ...Tim --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
We use Sendmail (http://www.sendmail.com) for edge / AntiSpam / Antivirus; Symantec Endpoint for servers and clients, and Symantec SMSMSE on Mailbox Servers. I don't know price but the Symantec is part of bundle package and very reasonable. Sendmail is extremely flexible edge routing product; if you have the need. We have not found any other product that can do what they do, at any price. We have a pretty good success rate of stopping spam but phishing is another story. Steven Alfano The Rockefeller University salf...@rockefeller.edu From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: what spam or edge server are you using? I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. Thanks, Jimmy --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
Thanks! For some reason I was thinking sendmail was postini. I'll give sendmail a shot. That's probably the solution I'm looking for. Thanks From: Steven Alfano [mailto:salf...@mail.rockefeller.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using? We use Sendmail (http://www.sendmail.com) for edge / AntiSpam / Antivirus; Symantec Endpoint for servers and clients, and Symantec SMSMSE on Mailbox Servers. I don't know price but the Symantec is part of bundle package and very reasonable. Sendmail is extremely flexible edge routing product; if you have the need. We have not found any other product that can do what they do, at any price. We have a pretty good success rate of stopping spam but phishing is another story. Steven Alfano The Rockefeller University salf...@rockefeller.edu From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: what spam or edge server are you using? I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. Thanks, Jimmy --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
Vipre - GFI. Works pretty decent. Great technical support. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.com wrote: I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. ** ** Thanks, ** ** Jimmy ** ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
We use Trend IMSVA. Note: We also use Trend anti virus on on our workstations and servers. I do not know the cost. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Vipre - GFI. Works pretty decent. Great technical support. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.comwrote: I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. ** ** Thanks, ** ** Jimmy ** ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- smsadm --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
We use Brightmail (aka Symantec Messaging Gateway) and it's quite nice. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: what spam or edge server are you using? I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. Thanks, Jimmy --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
We're using SpamTitan with Exchange 2007. Haven't tried 2010 yet. Works pretty well for our small shop (~100 mailboxes). Has a few issues with multiple domains. Steve Hart Network Administrator 503.491.4343 -Direct | 503.492.8160 - Fax From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: what spam or edge server are you using? I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. Thanks, Jimmy --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
I can highly reccomend Microsoft's FOPE service as opposed to an actual appliance etc. Sent on the run! On 11 Mar 2013, at 19:32, Steve Hart sh...@wrightbg.com wrote: We’re using SpamTitan with Exchange 2007. Haven’t tried 2010 yet. Works pretty well for our small shop (~100 mailboxes). Has a few issues with multiple domains. Steve Hart Network Administrator 503.491.4343 -Direct | 503.492.8160 - Fax From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: what spam or edge server are you using? I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. Thanks, Jimmy --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
Quite happy with my Barracuda. On Mar 11, 2013 11:17 AM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.com wrote: I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. ** ** Thanks, ** ** Jimmy ** ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
Been using SpamTitan for a few years. It comes with Kaspersky AV and also has Clam AV. It works well for us with ~200 mailboxes, single domain. Reasonably priced. Can't compare it to other products as we haven't used any. It is supposed to be able to be clustered and handle multiple domains but I haven't used those features. The few times I've needed tech support I have opened a ticket through their web site. They have always responded quickly - the support method is usually to open a secure tunnel through the administrative interface and they work on it remotely. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: what spam or edge server are you using? I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. Thanks, Jimmy --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.com wrote: I’m looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. We're using a Barracuda 400 - it's adequate to the task I do like the Outlook addin that they provide - it's nice and unobtrusive. But you do have to educate the users to do more than merely mark spam as it comes in - they also need to mark ham/non-spam when it arrives also, or else the Bayesian learning doesn't work so well. Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
Any recommendations for ones that are free if not near free? I'd like to have something hosted on my servers for long term testing purposes? From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? I've managed a couple of Barracuda 800s as second tier AV/SPAM gateways. Primary protection is provided by Postini (soon to be Google Apps). They're really easy to configure and manage, clustering is a breeze, and for the most part they just work. There's only been a couple of occassions in the last few years where I've lost access to the interface requiring a power cycle of the appliance. It hasn't been enough of an issue for me to contact support yet. I don't remember the exact cost but I'm pretty sure they were middle of the road. - Sean On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.com wrote: I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. Thanks, Jimmy --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp. ...Tim From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:ji...@jt-solution.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using? Any recommendations for ones that are free if not near free? I'd like to have something hosted on my servers for long term testing purposes? From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? I've managed a couple of Barracuda 800s as second tier AV/SPAM gateways. Primary protection is provided by Postini (soon to be Google Apps). They're really easy to configure and manage, clustering is a breeze, and for the most part they just work. There's only been a couple of occassions in the last few years where I've lost access to the interface requiring a power cycle of the appliance. It hasn't been enough of an issue for me to contact support yet. I don't remember the exact cost but I'm pretty sure they were middle of the road. - Sean On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jimmy Tran ji...@jt-solution.commailto:ji...@jt-solution.com wrote: I'm looking for some opionoins on what to use as a spam/edge server for Exchange 2010. What do you all recommend or use? Budget is a concern since that has not been decided on yet. Thanks, Jimmy --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this list actually used to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of ware, only shame is that its Perl. If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:) jlc From: Tim Evans Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using? I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp. ...Tim --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: what spam or edge server are you using?
Paging Mr. Espinola... Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please... Kurt On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this list actually used to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of ware, only shame is that its Perl. If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:) jlc From: Tim Evans Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using? I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp. …Tim --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
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Dude, you called him out? That was not a particularly pleasant ordeal... From: Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? Paging Mr. Espinola... Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please... Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
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I still chat with him on FB, but have not seen him here in a long time... -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? Paging Mr. Espinola... Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please... Kurt On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this list actually used to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of ware, only shame is that its Perl. If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:) jlc From: Tim Evans Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using? I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp. …Tim --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
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Don't know anything about that - all I know is that he touted it for quite a while, and I actually looked it over before settling on Maia Mailguard. Bringing up ASSP brought him back to mind, and I haven't seen him here in a long while. Hope he's doing well, really. He added a lot to the list. Kurt On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Dude, you called him out? That was not a particularly pleasant ordeal... From: Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? Paging Mr. Espinola... Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please... Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
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Truth. I don't do FB, and the list is lesser for him being gone. Kurt On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I still chat with him on FB, but have not seen him here in a long time... -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? Paging Mr. Espinola... Mr. Espinola to the white courtesy phone, please... Kurt On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: No kidding, I use it at a few places as well. One of the guys on this list actually used to be a contributor at one point. Nice piece of ware, only shame is that its Perl. If I never have to work with Perl again, its to soon:) jlc From: Tim Evans Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: what spam or edge server are you using? I use assp. It's a very powerful, but complex, open source program available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/assp. …Tim --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: what spam or edge server are you using?
Yeah, Maia probably is a more enterprisable offering if you could suggest such a thing for these apps. Problem is, its also Perl, blegh... My current post allots me the privilege of hacking Python all day, I can't tell you how that has spoiled me:) jlc From: Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? Don't know anything about that - all I know is that he touted it for quite a while, and I actually looked it over before settling on Maia Mailguard. Bringing up ASSP brought him back to mind, and I haven't seen him here in a long while. Hope he's doing well, really. He added a lot to the list. Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
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Perl - duct tape of the internet. Is it 'practical extraction and report language' or 'pathological eclectic rubbish lister'? At least with Python you get mandatory formatting... http://xkcd.com/353/ https://xkcd.com/208/ http://xkcd.com/224/ http://xkcd.com/519/ On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Yeah, Maia probably is a more enterprisable offering if you could suggest such a thing for these apps. Problem is, its also Perl, blegh... My current post allots me the privilege of hacking Python all day, I can't tell you how that has spoiled me:) jlc From: Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: what spam or edge server are you using? Don't know anything about that - all I know is that he touted it for quite a while, and I actually looked it over before settling on Maia Mailguard. Bringing up ASSP brought him back to mind, and I haven't seen him here in a long while. Hope he's doing well, really. He added a lot to the list. Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist