Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On 27-Jul-99 Thomas J. Hamman wrote: > Snipping the rest since I don't even disagree with it. :) I do agree with you > about the current situation of documentation for Linux--especially where the > HOWTO's are concerned, since many of them seem to be very outdated. (Though I > find it hard to find too much fault with the people who write them, who gain no > money for the time they spend on it.) I realize they are uncompensated, but on the other hand, they signed up knowing the terms up front. I've done volunteer work before, and the pay is always the same: the satisfaction of having done something beneficial for a group. If they tire of it, or if they find themselves unable to carry on for any reason, they have a responsibility to hand off to someone who can continue the work. As Linux is a living thing, so must the documentation live and grow. > I wasn't aware that Mandrake had a separate 'user guide' in addition to its > installation guide. If so, I would agree that that (the user guide) is a proper > place for information about SCSI emulation. They call it a user guide, but I put it in quotes partly because I disagree with its designation. It isn't close to being a user guide. And more importantly, what is needed is not a guide, but a manual. If I harp on this, understand that I am frustrated at the shortfalls. I'm convinced that Linux could be better for my company than Windows, but am concerned at the risks implied by poor documentation. To be fair, I think this is an hereditary issue endemic to C programmers. C docs have always been sparse, as have Unix docs. The mindset has favored small programs, and also favors the creation of tiny programs to allow each programmer to discover personally how a function works. For reasons I have never understood, the entire C community seems to find that appropriate. It put me off 15 years ago, and it still does. My outlook may also be colored by my having started in hardware design. And when I moved from logic to programming, it was in assembler first, where copious docs of registers and bits and address spaces are always available. Revisiting my complaint with the serial programming HOWTO, that is exactly the approach which is needed there, with each control bit fully explained as to function. I've also been spoiled through years of working with Pascal, where a single company dominates the field, and where there documentation has always been pretty strong. Part of my frustration comes from the fact that if I had the time to spend on doping out the serial programming details, I would offer an update to the HOWTO. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do that. In fact, that issue alone is forcing me to reconsider the move to Linux -- forcing me to buy into Windows for another product generation. Frankly, that is so depressing that I've been thinking maybe I should go back to hardware design. Or switch to BeOS. Or look again ad DOS with DR-DOS, and go back to assembler. I really have come to hate Windows. William Meyer
[expert] smbmount
Hello, I have a problem with smbmount samba-2.0.5 When i mount NT share in the morning it crashes at night. And crash is interesting. I can't mount samba share again to the same point: 1. In the morning all goes smoothly: "smbmount //intrantk/audio /mnt/intrantk -U dovydas -n dovydas -W centras Added interface ip=10.254.254.25 bcast=10.254.255.255 nmask=255.255.0.0 Password:" 2. At night it crashes 3. i can't mount to the same point again: " smbmount //intrantk/audio /mnt/audio/ -U dovydas -n dovydas -W centras Added interface ip=10.254.254.25 bcast=10.254.255.255 nmask=255.255.0.0 Could not resolve mount point /mnt/audio/" 4. I'm trying to remove bad mount point, impossible: "rm /mnt/audio rm: cannot remove `/mnt/audio': Input/output error" 5. Then i make anothe dir & mounting again. Thanks for help. It was ok with samba-2.0.3 Dovydas
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On 27-Jul-99 William Meyer wrote: >> On 26-Jul-99 Thomas J. Hamman wrote: > >> I agree with most of your views, but there's only so much you can fit in > one >> book. A couple points to keep in mind: >> >> Using an ATAPI CDR drive in SCSI emulation is a subject that is not > applicable >> to all (or even most) users. Furthermore, even for someone who does have > such >> a drive, knowing how to use it in SCSI emulation is not required for > installing >> Linux and getting their system up and running. ATAPI CDR drives read CD's > just >> fine with default IDE drivers; SCSI emulation is only needed for burning > CDR's, >> with cdrecord. Thus a user with an ATAPI CDR drive does not need > information >> about using SCSI emulation straight from their installation guide; it's >> something they can look up later in the large wealth of documentation > written >> specifically on the subject of burning CDR's. > > Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I understand your point, but I still > disagree. Costco has been selling pallette-loads of HP 8100 CDRs, and have > even sold Mandrake (briefly) and Red Hat. I admit that my neighborhood may > ba a bit atypical, but even so... Snipping the rest since I don't even disagree with it. :) I do agree with you about the current situation of documentation for Linux--especially where the HOWTO's are concerned, since many of them seem to be very outdated. (Though I find it hard to find too much fault with the people who write them, who gain no money for the time they spend on it.) I never disagreed with your opinions of Linux documentation and what needs to be done with it, and I'm sorry I didn't make that more clear in my earlier reply. I was only saying that instructions for setting up SCSI emulation for an ATAPI CDR drive have their proper place--CD-WRITING HOWTO's/FAQ's, User Guides, the instructions for cdrecord (cdrecord's homepage has links to all the info you'd need, and it was enough for me to get my drive set up for burning)--and that proper place isn't a distribution's installation guide. I wasn't aware that Mandrake had a separate 'user guide' in addition to its installation guide. If so, I would agree that that (the user guide) is a proper place for information about SCSI emulation. -Tom
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
> On 26-Jul-99 Thomas J. Hamman wrote: > I agree with most of your views, but there's only so much you can fit in one > book. A couple points to keep in mind: > > Using an ATAPI CDR drive in SCSI emulation is a subject that is not applicable > to all (or even most) users. Furthermore, even for someone who does have such > a drive, knowing how to use it in SCSI emulation is not required for installing > Linux and getting their system up and running. ATAPI CDR drives read CD's just > fine with default IDE drivers; SCSI emulation is only needed for burning CDR's, > with cdrecord. Thus a user with an ATAPI CDR drive does not need information > about using SCSI emulation straight from their installation guide; it's > something they can look up later in the large wealth of documentation written > specifically on the subject of burning CDR's. Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I understand your point, but I still disagree. Costco has been selling pallette-loads of HP 8100 CDRs, and have even sold Mandrake (briefly) and Red Hat. I admit that my neighborhood may ba a bit atypical, but even so... One of the points I wanted to make, and will now state as clearly as I can is that the HOWTOs fall short as docs are concerned. I'm not a tyro; I've been writing software commercially for over 20 years. I've also written documentation for commercial products, and friends, the HOWTOs just don't get it. My impression is that whereas the development of Linux is a community effort with a town council providing control, the HOWTOs are more like a happening. There is little consistency, and a great deal is assumed about the reader's knowledge. This tends to make searching the HOWTOs a circular, or at best, spiral, activity. > The Mandrake Installation Guide is just that: an installation guide. It is > meant to cover installation and subjects related to helping a user get their > system up and running. It is not a user guide. It would be nice if it could > be, but it's not really possible, or at least not plausible. I don't know how > large the current Mandrake Installation Guide is right now, but I have the > RedHat 5.2 Installation Guide, and it is nearly 400 pages long. It's a very > thick book, despite not having much beyond installing and getting the system > initially set up. To try to fit documentation on every subject as non-critical > and specific-to-certain-hardware as the subject of SCSI emulation, into an > installation guide, would be impossible--it would require thousands of > pages. There's no way you could pack it into one book. The Mandrake "Install Guide" is 47 pages. The Mandrake "User Guide" is 142 pages. It should be fairly obvious that neither of those is adequate to the roles they claim. > Speaking of user guides though, there are several freely available guides as > part of the Linux Documentation Project at http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/. > There's an Installation and Getting Started guide, User Guide, System > Administrator's Guide, and several more, along with the HOWTO's, mini-HOWTO's, > and FAQs, all conveniently accessible from one sight. I've been to the LDP. That's where I found the hopelessly inadequate serial programming guide. With the widespread use of Linux, now claimed to be more than 7 million seats (and it's probably more than that), I would have expected to find better. I expect books to be outdated. It's the nature of the beast. One of the best features of the HOWTOs ought to be limited inertia. Yet the serial programming HOWTO has had no rework in 18 months. Please understand: I'm highly motivated to get out from under MS, and I find much to like in Linux. Red Hat left me cold; Caldera was better, and Mandrake feels pretty good. My OS experience includes CP/M, MS-DOS, SCO Unix, Cromix, OS/2, and BeOS. My problem is that I keep tripping over new mysteries. Given that I have to make a business case for dropping MS, that's a bit of a problem, as it makes it more or less impossible to estimate development time. > With all that said, I certainly wouldn't complain if a little section on SCSI > emulation popped up in the Mandrake Installation Guide; but I doubt it will, > for the reasons I just explained. Again, I understand, and again, I'm afraid you're right. Not because of reasons, but because of rationale. MS gets away with it because Windows is pervasive. Linux users hate for Linux to be compared to Windows, yet the best excuse for the poor documentation comes from the MS example. If Linux is going to live up to all that it could be, distributors should recognize that documentation is an opportunity to add value. My largest regret is that my own understanding of Linux is insufficient to let me write the book which begs to be written. There's a golden opportunity here. William Meyer
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On 26-Jul-99 William Meyer wrote: > >> I don't know if this would be the kind of thing that belongs in the >> installation guide... not that it's a bad idea, but I think the > installation >> guide is for Mandrake-specific stuff applicable to most users. Having an > ATAPI >> CDR drive is a specific hardware situation that only applies to a few > users, and >> there is already plenty of documentation on the subject elsewhere (like at >> cdrecord's homepage). :) > > I disagree. The installation guide needs to be for Linux, not only for > Mandrake-specific issues. That's one of the problems with Linux > distributions at this point: too much knowledge is assumed in the docs. And > that's why the HOWTOs don't work well, either, because they also make too > many assumptions. > > In theory, the HOWTOs are a great resource, but the anarchical nature of the > OS is such that they tend to suffer from innattention. The kernel is healthy > because there is Linus and a core of developers who take charge of the > essential issues. There really is a need for one or more people to > coordinate the issue of HOWTOs, push custodians to make needed updates, and > enlist new custodians where those now in place do not keep things current. > > Any Linux distro will succeed or fail on the ability of a new user to > install it and get it running with a minimum of pain. Newsgroups help, and > so do mail lists, but the first place we logically turn is to the > documentation we received in the distro. > > William Meyer I agree with most of your views, but there's only so much you can fit in one book. A couple points to keep in mind: Using an ATAPI CDR drive in SCSI emulation is a subject that is not applicable to all (or even most) users. Furthermore, even for someone who does have such a drive, knowing how to use it in SCSI emulation is not required for installing Linux and getting their system up and running. ATAPI CDR drives read CD's just fine with default IDE drivers; SCSI emulation is only needed for burning CDR's, with cdrecord. Thus a user with an ATAPI CDR drive does not need information about using SCSI emulation straight from their installation guide; it's something they can look up later in the large wealth of documentation written specifically on the subject of burning CDR's. The Mandrake Installation Guide is just that: an installation guide. It is meant to cover installation and subjects related to helping a user get their system up and running. It is not a user guide. It would be nice if it could be, but it's not really possible, or at least not plausible. I don't know how large the current Mandrake Installation Guide is right now, but I have the RedHat 5.2 Installation Guide, and it is nearly 400 pages long. It's a very thick book, despite not having much beyond installing and getting the system initially set up. To try to fit documentation on every subject as non-critical and specific-to-certain-hardware as the subject of SCSI emulation, into an installation guide, would be impossible--it would require thousands of pages. There's no way you could pack it into one book. Speaking of user guides though, there are several freely available guides as part of the Linux Documentation Project at http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/. There's an Installation and Getting Started guide, User Guide, System Administrator's Guide, and several more, along with the HOWTO's, mini-HOWTO's, and FAQs, all conveniently accessible from one sight. With all that said, I certainly wouldn't complain if a little section on SCSI emulation popped up in the Mandrake Installation Guide; but I doubt it will, for the reasons I just explained. -Tom
Re: [expert] HTML Editor
Amaya is very good and easy to use. It comes in RPM format too!!! Have a look at http://www.freshmeat.net and search for wysiwig Dunc John Aldrich wrote: Netscape??? ;-) Seriously it's a pretty decent HTML editor and it's free! :-) John - Original Message - From: Ty Mixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 10:40 PM Subject: [expert] HTML Editor > Can anyone suggest a good WYSIWYG HTML editor? > > Thanks lots. > > -- > Ty Mixon > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 26147713 > > > -- // Duncan Hall SysAdmin/WebMaster Viator Systems [ http://www.viator.com ] ... e-commerce systems for the travel industry tel: +61 2 9361 6137 fax: +61 2 9360 9885 -//
Re: [expert] HTML Editor
I haven't used NS as an HTML editor since it was 3.x or 4.0, but I didn't much like it then. I'll try it tho, I guess . . . Ty -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713 >> Original Message << On 7/26/99, 7:55:17 PM, "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: [expert] HTML Editor: > Netscape??? ;-) Seriously it's a pretty decent HTML editor and it's > free! :-) > John > - Original Message - > From: Ty Mixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 10:40 PM > Subject: [expert] HTML Editor > > Can anyone suggest a good WYSIWYG HTML editor? > > > > Thanks lots. > > > > -- > > Ty Mixon > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ICQ: 26147713 > > > > > >
Re: [expert] HTML Editor
Netscape??? ;-) Seriously it's a pretty decent HTML editor and it's free! :-) John - Original Message - From: Ty Mixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 10:40 PM Subject: [expert] HTML Editor > Can anyone suggest a good WYSIWYG HTML editor? > > Thanks lots. > > -- > Ty Mixon > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 26147713 > > >
[expert] HTML Editor
Can anyone suggest a good WYSIWYG HTML editor? Thanks lots. -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713
[expert] Install Problem!
Posted in Novice group but maybe should have posted here... Ok, I give up! I've NEVER had this much trouble installing ANY Linux product!! After 1.5 days I finally got a complete minimal install. Rebooted and during the boot process I get this message... [cut] hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A, 3067MB w/76kB Cache, CHS=779/128/63 hdc: ATAPI 4X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.55 Floppy drive(s) fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is an 8277A md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 scsi : 0 hosts. scsi : detected total. Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference and it dies there! What is going on? I'm SO frustrated that I'm about ready to put Windows 98 on the computer and pitch Mandrake out the window. Any help VERY MUCH appreciated. Thanks... Ron Smith Boise, Idaho
RE: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Charley Sparks wrote: > Is there a way to use a Parallel port HP under Linux ?? > > Charley I'm not aware of any software dedicated to this, if it's recognised as an IDE drive already, ide-scsi may work. > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Axalon > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 4:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Steven wrote: > > > > > Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > > > > > > > > You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the > > > > standard Mandrake kernel. > > > > > > > > 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: > > > > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > > > > > > > 2)Reboot > > > > > > > > 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! > > You can add > > > > the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. > > > > > > OK, Module Tutorial time for me: > > > Why can the kernel load some modules automatically (and unload them when > > > it's done), but others have to be pushed in by hand? > > > > Serveral reasons, there maybe more than one module that does slightly > > different things like with sound and scsi, there are loads of scsi and > > sound drivers if it's not configured in /etc/conf.modules correctly it > > won't know what specific driver it needs. > > > > > Would I need a system.map, or other, file to use your method? > > > > Nope, > > > > > There is a CD Writer HowTo at > > > http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/cdr/html/CD-Writing-2.html#ss2.1 > > > > > > It states > > > "With 2.2, you specify which device not to treat as a > > IDE/ATAPI-device using > > > the parameter ignore= while loading the ide-cd module. Example: use > > > "modprobe ide-cd ignore=hdb", if your ATAPI-writer is hdb and > > you want the > > > ide-scsi-driver to treat hdb as a scsi-device (usally sr0). > > There is no way > > > to specify this on the kernel-commandline (like with 2.0)." > > > > Not relevent ide-cd is not a module in the supplied kernel it's built in. > > > > > This seems the opposite of what you have said, and you haven't > > mentioned the > > > 'ignore' option, is that because with the ide-scsi modules > > loaded then the > > > kernel won't need to load the ide-cdrom module? > > > > It's build in, all ide cd's will be accessable as standard ide devices > > (eg. /dev/hdX) untill the ide-scsi module gets loaded. Not all ide cdroms > > get along well w/ ide-scsi, you wind uo with funny things like 6 extra > > cdrom devices. > > > > > >
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
---Reply to mail from Jean-Michel Dault about [expert] CD writing under Linux > > Probably your append line is not in the general config. Try it before the > "image=..." line. > > Jean-Michel Dault > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Right after I sent that e-mail that ocurred to me. I had the line at the end of the file instead of after the section pertaining to the kernel I wanted to boot. In any case, the CD writer works great now and no recompiling was necessary. Thanks so much for your help!! ---End reply -- Jonathan Dlouhy Principal Oboe, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra Windows Error 018: Unrecoverable error. System destroyed.
[expert] Adding PPP to load at boot
I got my Linux reinstalled. I want to know Can I add the PPP module to the conf.modules to load at boot. Otherwise I need to compile it in. Anytime I try to run Kppp it gives me a error "Your Kernel Does Not Support PPP, Please Load a Kernel that does!" Also I want the APM to be used. It loads up at boot, but it doesn't shut the computer down. I had it working on one of the Time I had the Kernel to compile correctly and it would shutdown the computer fully. Thanks, James J. Capone *** Webmaster http://www.linuxuser.8m.com Webmaster http://www.teammajestic.8m.com Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author: Linux For Newbies "Even Common People Can Attain Uncommon Results"
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
> I don't know if this would be the kind of thing that belongs in the > installation guide... not that it's a bad idea, but I think the installation > guide is for Mandrake-specific stuff applicable to most users. Having an ATAPI > CDR drive is a specific hardware situation that only applies to a few users, and > there is already plenty of documentation on the subject elsewhere (like at > cdrecord's homepage). :) I disagree. The installation guide needs to be for Linux, not only for Mandrake-specific issues. That's one of the problems with Linux distributions at this point: too much knowledge is assumed in the docs. And that's why the HOWTOs don't work well, either, because they also make too many assumptions. In theory, the HOWTOs are a great resource, but the anarchical nature of the OS is such that they tend to suffer from innattention. The kernel is healthy because there is Linus and a core of developers who take charge of the essential issues. There really is a need for one or more people to coordinate the issue of HOWTOs, push custodians to make needed updates, and enlist new custodians where those now in place do not keep things current. Any Linux distro will succeed or fail on the ability of a new user to install it and get it running with a minimum of pain. Newsgroups help, and so do mail lists, but the first place we logically turn is to the documentation we received in the distro. William Meyer
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux (fwd)
---Reply to mail from Axalon about [expert] CD writing under Linux > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: > >> ---Reply to mail from Jean-Michel Dault about [expert] CD writing under Linux >> > >> > You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the >> > standard Mandrake kernel. >> > >> > 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: >> > append="hdb=ide-scsi" >> > >> > 2)Reboot >> > >> > 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add >> > the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. >> > >> > I remember Axalon had a sexier solution, but I can't quite remember it... >> > >> > Jean-Michel Dault >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> This works great!! One problem. When I add the "append" line to lilo.conf >> and rerun lilo I get a syntax error at whatever line number the "append" >> statement is.If I pass the argument at boot, no problem. What do I need to >> do? >> >> Thanks! >> >> ---End reply > > Show us the lilo.conf > Right after I sent this I realized my mistake. I had put the "append" line at the end of the file rather than at the end of the section containing the information about the kernel I wanted to boot. Live and learn... ---End reply -- Jonathan Dlouhy Principal Oboe, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra Windows Error 018: Unrecoverable error. System destroyed.
Re: [expert] (More) problems with vmware and recompiled kernel
Steven wrote: > > I've been trying to set up vmware (version 1.0.3), and in preperation, I've > recompiled my kernel from the src rpm (kernel-2.2.10-32mdk from Cooker -- a > couple of weeks old now). > > I compiled relatively light-weight kernel, to drive my Intel P2/BX chipset, > 64MB ram, IDE based system. I have no floppy, but I have an ls120. I missed > out pretty much anything that I don't need for this workstation. > > After running menu config I changed the tag string to 2.2.10-32mdk-sjm1, and > did 'make dep && make clean && make bzImage && make modules && make > modules_install'. The kernel runs the machine ok, but it won't run vmware. > > I have a Win98 installation on a FAT partition, and I was planning to run > this in vmware, but I get a segfault as soon as I "power up" the vitual > machine. > > How can I help to get this problem licked in time for MD6.1? I could post my > menuconfig files if that's interesting to the kernel-hackers at MD. Helpful > for me would be to see the config file from a kernel that works with vmware. > > Steven Where can I get the 2.2.10.-32 kernel rpm from/ Cheers Sridhar
Re: [expert] lilo error
Ty Mixon wrote: > Which kernel? I used to get this msg until I updated kernels. I'm > now running the 2.2.10-32 kernel from cooker. > > Ty > > >> Original Message << > > On 7/22/99, 1:24:11 PM, Sridhar G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > regarding [expert] lilo error: > > > I compiled my kernel and tried /sbin/lilo -v. I received the following > > message. > > > "VGA mode presetting is not supported by your kernel". > > > What does thsi mean? How to solve this problem. Do I have to make > > changes to the kernel, if so what are the changes? > > > Thanks > > Sridhar Well, as suggested by someone on this list I updated lilo and it worked fine. Cheers Sridhar
RE: [expert] CD writing under Linux
Is there a way to use a Parallel port HP under Linux ?? Charley > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Axalon > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 4:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux > > > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Steven wrote: > > > Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > > > > > > You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the > > > standard Mandrake kernel. > > > > > > 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: > > > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > > > > > 2)Reboot > > > > > > 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! > You can add > > > the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. > > > > OK, Module Tutorial time for me: > > Why can the kernel load some modules automatically (and unload them when > > it's done), but others have to be pushed in by hand? > > Serveral reasons, there maybe more than one module that does slightly > different things like with sound and scsi, there are loads of scsi and > sound drivers if it's not configured in /etc/conf.modules correctly it > won't know what specific driver it needs. > > > Would I need a system.map, or other, file to use your method? > > Nope, > > > There is a CD Writer HowTo at > > http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/cdr/html/CD-Writing-2.html#ss2.1 > > > > It states > > "With 2.2, you specify which device not to treat as a > IDE/ATAPI-device using > > the parameter ignore= while loading the ide-cd module. Example: use > > "modprobe ide-cd ignore=hdb", if your ATAPI-writer is hdb and > you want the > > ide-scsi-driver to treat hdb as a scsi-device (usally sr0). > There is no way > > to specify this on the kernel-commandline (like with 2.0)." > > Not relevent ide-cd is not a module in the supplied kernel it's built in. > > > This seems the opposite of what you have said, and you haven't > mentioned the > > 'ignore' option, is that because with the ide-scsi modules > loaded then the > > kernel won't need to load the ide-cdrom module? > > It's build in, all ide cd's will be accessable as standard ide devices > (eg. /dev/hdX) untill the ide-scsi module gets loaded. Not all ide cdroms > get along well w/ ide-scsi, you wind uo with funny things like 6 extra > cdrom devices. > >
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: > ---Reply to mail from Jean-Michel Dault about [expert] CD writing under Linux > > > > You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the > > standard Mandrake kernel. > > > > 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: > > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > > > 2)Reboot > > > > 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add > > the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. > > > > I remember Axalon had a sexier solution, but I can't quite remember it... > > > > Jean-Michel Dault > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > This works great!! One problem. When I add the "append" line to lilo.conf > and rerun lilo I get a syntax error at whatever line number the "append" > statement is.If I pass the argument at boot, no problem. What do I need to > do? > > Thanks! > > ---End reply Show us the lilo.conf
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
Probably your append line is not in the general config. Try it before the "image=..." line. Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This works great!! One problem. When I add the "append" line to lilo.conf > and rerun lilo I get a syntax error at whatever line number the "append" > statement is.If I pass the argument at boot, no problem. What do I need to > do? > > Thanks! > > ---End reply > > -- > Jonathan Dlouhy > Principal Oboe, > Atlanta Symphony Orchestra > > Windows Error 018: Unrecoverable error. > System destroyed. > > > >
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Thomas J. Hamman wrote: > > On 26-Jul-99 Axalon wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > > > >> > >> You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the > >> standard Mandrake kernel. > >> > >> 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: > >> append="hdb=ide-scsi" > >> > >> 2)Reboot > >> > >> 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add > >> the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. > >> > >> I remember Axalon had a sexier solution, but I can't quite remember it... > > > > alias block-major-11 ide-scsi > > has an inherent flaw though, doesn't get loaded untill you try and access > > the cd, i forgot what it caused problems with. Theres also something like > > alias scsi_hostadapter0 ide-scsi, but that never did work on my system > > alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi works okay for me--usually. Sometimes it won't > work and I'll have to modprobe (no idea why), but usually it works. > > Where does one get a list of the 'block-major-#' devices? i.e. How would I know > what block-major-11 is supposed to refer to? > > > -Tom > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Steven wrote: > Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > > > > You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the > > standard Mandrake kernel. > > > > 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: > > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > > > 2)Reboot > > > > 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add > > the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. > > OK, Module Tutorial time for me: > Why can the kernel load some modules automatically (and unload them when > it's done), but others have to be pushed in by hand? Serveral reasons, there maybe more than one module that does slightly different things like with sound and scsi, there are loads of scsi and sound drivers if it's not configured in /etc/conf.modules correctly it won't know what specific driver it needs. > Would I need a system.map, or other, file to use your method? Nope, > There is a CD Writer HowTo at > http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/cdr/html/CD-Writing-2.html#ss2.1 > > It states > "With 2.2, you specify which device not to treat as a IDE/ATAPI-device using > the parameter ignore= while loading the ide-cd module. Example: use > "modprobe ide-cd ignore=hdb", if your ATAPI-writer is hdb and you want the > ide-scsi-driver to treat hdb as a scsi-device (usally sr0). There is no way > to specify this on the kernel-commandline (like with 2.0)." Not relevent ide-cd is not a module in the supplied kernel it's built in. > This seems the opposite of what you have said, and you haven't mentioned the > 'ignore' option, is that because with the ide-scsi modules loaded then the > kernel won't need to load the ide-cdrom module? It's build in, all ide cd's will be accessable as standard ide devices (eg. /dev/hdX) untill the ide-scsi module gets loaded. Not all ide cdroms get along well w/ ide-scsi, you wind uo with funny things like 6 extra cdrom devices.
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
---Reply to mail from Jean-Michel Dault about [expert] CD writing under Linux > > You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the > standard Mandrake kernel. > > 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > 2)Reboot > > 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add > the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. > > I remember Axalon had a sexier solution, but I can't quite remember it... > > Jean-Michel Dault > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] This works great!! One problem. When I add the "append" line to lilo.conf and rerun lilo I get a syntax error at whatever line number the "append" statement is.If I pass the argument at boot, no problem. What do I need to do? Thanks! ---End reply -- Jonathan Dlouhy Principal Oboe, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra Windows Error 018: Unrecoverable error. System destroyed.
[expert] glibc segmentation fault problem?
Hi, I am having problems with a few programs coming in binary form, including acroread, matlab and dislin. Some of these programs are claimed to have been compiled in Red Hat Linux 6.0. When I run these programs I get segmentation faults. To get a hint on what's going on, I run them in the debugger and I get the following message: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x2ad3c291 in __getopt_clean_environment () from /lib/libc.so.6. >From which I would assume that the problem originates from glibc. I am using the glibc-2.1.1-9mdk that came in the "Complete Linux Operating system 6.0" CD. Any help on this would be appreciated. Thanks, -- Gey-Hong Gweon The University of Michigan, Physics Department, Ann Arbor, MI 48109 (734) 647-9434 (Office), 763-3417 (Lab), 763-9694 (Fax)
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On 26-Jul-99 Steven wrote: > "Thomas J. Hamman" wrote: > >> I've been using my IDE/ATAPI CDR drive under Mandrake 6 and did not have to >> recompile the kernel for it. >> >> Using 'append="hdX=ide-scsi"' in lilo and then typing 'modprobe ide-scsi' at >> the command line next time you boot, as I suggested to [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> should work with the generic M6 kernel with no recompiling. > > > Cheers. When I first tried to do this I read the stuff in /usr/doc, which > states that for kernel 2.2.x the ide-scsi *had* to be in the kernel; I did > play with the modules, but got frustrated because I couldn't work out what > line to put in my conf.modules file -- didn't think of just inserting the > module by hand (modprobe). It seemed easier to recompile. Yeah, I think I recall reading something about it being different for 2.2.x kernels back when I was first trying to figure this stuff out, but I tried the hdc=ide-scsi line anyway and it worked... and it seemed to be what most people on the list with ATAPI CDR's were doing. > Even with the ide and scsi drivers in the kernel, it's still smaller than > the one supplied in the kernel RPM, not that makes any difference ... :) > > I think there's enough information in this thread for a section in the > Mandrake installation guide ;) Or maybe this could be handled during > intallation ... Well, part of it can be handled during installation if you know you need it beforehand--when you're setting up LILO during installation it asks if you need to pass any special options to the kernel. You can put the hdX=ide-scsi line there. And then the only thing left is the modprobe command, or putting the right line in /etc/conf.modules. I don't know if this would be the kind of thing that belongs in the installation guide... not that it's a bad idea, but I think the installation guide is for Mandrake-specific stuff applicable to most users. Having an ATAPI CDR drive is a specific hardware situation that only applies to a few users, and there is already plenty of documentation on the subject elsewhere (like at cdrecord's homepage). :) -Tom
[expert] make dep problem
Hi, After configuring my new kernel version 2.2.9 with make config , I do a make dep and get following error-message: [root@u-218 linux]# make dep gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep scripts/mkdep.c scripts/mkdep.c:13: ctype.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden scripts/mkdep.c:14: stdio.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden scripts/mkdep.c:15: stdlib.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden scripts/mkdep.c:16: string.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden scripts/mkdep.c:17: unistd.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden scripts/mkdep.c:19: sys/fcntl.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden scripts/mkdep.c:20: sys/mman.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden scripts/mkdep.c:21: sys/stat.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden scripts/mkdep.c:22: sys/types.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden make: *** [scripts/mkdep] Error 1 Can anybody help me to get the solution. Thanks ;-))) Stefan Brenner
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
I'd like to thank everyone for their help on this one. I won't be able to try it until tonight, but I feel like I know what I need to do now. >I think there's enough information in this thread for a section in the >Mandrake installation guide ;) Or maybe this could be handled during >intallation ... I think this is a great idea. I didn't notice anything in the installation guide when I looked so this would be good stuff to include. Steve Fox 8?) http://w3.rchland.ibm.com/~sjfox (IBM Intranet) http://pcxtreme.org (External)
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On 26-Jul-99 Axalon wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > >> >> You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the >> standard Mandrake kernel. >> >> 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: >> append="hdb=ide-scsi" >> >> 2)Reboot >> >> 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add >> the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. >> >> I remember Axalon had a sexier solution, but I can't quite remember it... > > alias block-major-11 ide-scsi > has an inherent flaw though, doesn't get loaded untill you try and access > the cd, i forgot what it caused problems with. Theres also something like > alias scsi_hostadapter0 ide-scsi, but that never did work on my system alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi works okay for me--usually. Sometimes it won't work and I'll have to modprobe (no idea why), but usually it works. Where does one get a list of the 'block-major-#' devices? i.e. How would I know what block-major-11 is supposed to refer to? -Tom
[expert] Setting locale
Hi all,
I had posted this question in Newbie but got no responds. Maybe I have to
change the gear to Expert-Level... ;-)
How can I change my locale setting environment, for example to ISO-8859-1?
I had set the LC_ALL environment variable, but my Perl gave me warning,
--- quoted ---
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LC_ALL = "ISO-8859-1",
LANG = (unset)
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
--- end quote ---
Also, I am curious if it is true when my
/usr/share/locale/iso-8859-1/
contains nothing? (I worried that some instructions had incidentally
removed something when I did try and error)
Thanks a lot.
--
@mal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] make menuconfig/xconfig
Hi, Hopefully someone who reads this can help me. I wanted to compile a new kernel with generic scsi-support included in the kernel. I downloaded kenrel version 2.2.9 from www.de.kernel.org. I followed the instructions to unpack the archives in /usr/src. So i did a: make mrproper (don´t really know what this is for?) [root@localhost linux]# make xconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts kconfig.tk make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts' gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o tkparse.o tkparse.c tkparse.c:37: stdio.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden tkparse.c:38: stdlib.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden tkparse.c:39: string.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden make[1]: *** [tkparse.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts' make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 [root@localhost linux]# make menuconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts/lxdialog all make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog' gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE -DCURSES_LOC="" -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o In file included from lxdialog.c:22: dialog.h:22: sys/types.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden dialog.h:23: fcntl.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden dialog.h:24: unistd.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden dialog.h:25: ctype.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden dialog.h:26: stdlib.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden dialog.h:27: string.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden dialog.h:29: curses.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden lxdialog.c:53: locale.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog' make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 I think i´ve all the required packages installed on my machine1? [root@localhost linux]# rpm -qa | grep gcc pgcc-1.1.3-3mdk pgcc-c++-1.1.3-3mdk [root@localhost linux]# rpm -qa | grep tcl tcl-8.0.4-10mdk tclx-8.0.4-10mdk [root@localhost linux]# rpm -qa | grep tk gtk+-1.2.3-6mdk gtk+10-1.0.6-6mdk gtk-engines-0.5-16mdk gtkzip-0.5-1mdk netkit-base-0.11-11mdk tk-8.0.4-10mdk tkinter-1.5.1-11mdk tksysv-1.0-7mdk make config works just fine. Thanks for wasting your time for my problem! ;-))) Stefan Brenner
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > > You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the > standard Mandrake kernel. > > 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > 2)Reboot > > 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add > the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. OK, Module Tutorial time for me: Why can the kernel load some modules automatically (and unload them when it's done), but others have to be pushed in by hand? Would I need a system.map, or other, file to use your method? There is a CD Writer HowTo at http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/cdr/html/CD-Writing-2.html#ss2.1 It states "With 2.2, you specify which device not to treat as a IDE/ATAPI-device using the parameter ignore= while loading the ide-cd module. Example: use "modprobe ide-cd ignore=hdb", if your ATAPI-writer is hdb and you want the ide-scsi-driver to treat hdb as a scsi-device (usally sr0). There is no way to specify this on the kernel-commandline (like with 2.0)." This seems the opposite of what you have said, and you haven't mentioned the 'ignore' option, is that because with the ide-scsi modules loaded then the kernel won't need to load the ide-cdrom module?
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
I'll give that a try tonight after work. Now how fast do you think M$ support could have got me an answer? *EG* Thanks! Steve Fox 8?) http://w3.rchland.ibm.com/~sjfox (IBM Intranet) http://pcxtreme.org (External) Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/26/99 11:02:15 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the standard Mandrake kernel. 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: append="hdb=ide-scsi" 2)Reboot 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. I remember Axalon had a sexier solution, but I can't quite remember it... Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Steven wrote: > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:25:55 + > From: Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping for > > a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the > > OK, I've managed to get this working, so here are my helpful hints for you: > > The documentation is probably stashed in /usr/doc/xcdroast on your hard disk > - dig around there -- you'll proably want to read it. > > Here is the short version of what it says: > > Recompile your kernel -- > > You have to compile the ide-scsii emulation, generic scsii support, and scsi > cdrom drivers into the kernel, not as modules. (If you work out how to do > this with modules, let us know ... ) > > You have to compile out (that is, don't include) the ide cdrom support. If > you have an ide floppy, compile that into the kernel too, or the scsii > emulator will interfere with that too. > > Your cdrom is now /dev/sr1 or /dev/sr0, so don't forget to change the > /dev/cdrom hard link. > > They recomend that if your hard disk is an IDE one, that you use the -u > option with hdparm (check the hdparm man page and see your > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file). I still got xcdroast/cdrecord to work without > using -u, but I have put the -u option in, and it seems better (I burned a > cd from an image on the HDD at 4x, and installed Corel WP8 at the same > time, so the IDE disk seems quite fast enough for me ...) > > The current xcdroast is still quite limited, especially for audio tracks, so > you probably won't wipe Windows, but it's good for most jobs. > > Good luck, > Steven >
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
"Thomas J. Hamman" wrote: > I've been using my IDE/ATAPI CDR drive under Mandrake 6 and did not have to > recompile the kernel for it. > > Using 'append="hdX=ide-scsi"' in lilo and then typing 'modprobe ide-scsi' at > the command line next time you boot, as I suggested to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > should work with the generic M6 kernel with no recompiling. Cheers. When I first tried to do this I read the stuff in /usr/doc, which states that for kernel 2.2.x the ide-scsi *had* to be in the kernel; I did play with the modules, but got frustrated because I couldn't work out what line to put in my conf.modules file -- didn't think of just inserting the module by hand (modprobe). It seemed easier to recompile. Even with the ide and scsi drivers in the kernel, it's still smaller than the one supplied in the kernel RPM, not that makes any difference ... :) I think there's enough information in this thread for a section in the Mandrake installation guide ;) Or maybe this could be handled during intallation ... So much to do, so little time. Steven
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On 26-Jul-99 Steven wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping >> for >> a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the > > OK, I've managed to get this working, so here are my helpful hints for you: > > The documentation is probably stashed in /usr/doc/xcdroast on your hard disk > - dig around there -- you'll proably want to read it. > > Here is the short version of what it says: > > Recompile your kernel -- > > You have to compile the ide-scsii emulation, generic scsii support, and scsi > cdrom drivers into the kernel, not as modules. (If you work out how to do > this with modules, let us know ... ) I've been using my IDE/ATAPI CDR drive under Mandrake 6 and did not have to recompile the kernel for it. Using 'append="hdX=ide-scsi"' in lilo and then typing 'modprobe ide-scsi' at the command line next time you boot, as I suggested to [EMAIL PROTECTED], should work with the generic M6 kernel with no recompiling. -Tom
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > > You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the > standard Mandrake kernel. > > 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > 2)Reboot > > 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add > the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. > > I remember Axalon had a sexier solution, but I can't quite remember it... alias block-major-11 ide-scsi has an inherent flaw though, doesn't get loaded untill you try and access the cd, i forgot what it caused problems with. Theres also something like alias scsi_hostadapter0 ide-scsi, but that never did work on my system > Jean-Michel Dault > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Steven wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:25:55 + > > From: Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping for > > > a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the > > > > OK, I've managed to get this working, so here are my helpful hints for you: > > > > The documentation is probably stashed in /usr/doc/xcdroast on your hard disk > > - dig around there -- you'll proably want to read it. > > > > Here is the short version of what it says: > > > > Recompile your kernel -- > > > > You have to compile the ide-scsii emulation, generic scsii support, and scsi > > cdrom drivers into the kernel, not as modules. (If you work out how to do > > this with modules, let us know ... ) > > > > You have to compile out (that is, don't include) the ide cdrom support. If > > you have an ide floppy, compile that into the kernel too, or the scsii > > emulator will interfere with that too. > > > > Your cdrom is now /dev/sr1 or /dev/sr0, so don't forget to change the > > /dev/cdrom hard link. > > > > They recomend that if your hard disk is an IDE one, that you use the -u > > option with hdparm (check the hdparm man page and see your > > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file). I still got xcdroast/cdrecord to work without > > using -u, but I have put the -u option in, and it seems better (I burned a > > cd from an image on the HDD at 4x, and installed Corel WP8 at the same > > time, so the IDE disk seems quite fast enough for me ...) > > > > The current xcdroast is still quite limited, especially for audio tracks, so > > you probably won't wipe Windows, but it's good for most jobs. > > > > Good luck, > > Steven > > >
RE: [expert] CD writing under Linux
On 26-Jul-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey all, > > I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping > for > a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the > default cdrecord (1.82?) and xcdroaster from the distro. When I run 'cdrecord > -scanbus' I get the error " ". When I start up xcdroaster I get the message > that the SCSI generic module (sg) isn't loaded into the kernel. When I do an > 'insmod sg' it says it's already loaded and lsmod confirms this (it has > [autoclean ?] in the right column). By looking at the CD-Writing Mini-HOWTO > the > Mandrake 2.2.9-27 kernel seems to have all required components either > loadable > as modules or compiled into the kernel. Am I missing something? > > I've tried running under my id and as root and neither work. Do I need to > mount > the device before it can be found? > > Any help much appreciated as this is the last thing I need to get working > before > I can wipe Windoze off my hard drive...thanks! Is your CD-RW drive IDE/ATAPI, or SCSI? And is it on the list of supported drives (there's a link to such a list on cdrecord's homepage)? If it's SCSI, I don't know how to help since I haven't used SCSI drives. If it's IDE/ATAPI, then there are just two very simple things you need to do (hopefully :) ): Put this line in your /etc/lilo.conf, in the part for booting Linux: append="hdX=ide-scsi" Where X is the correct letter for your CD-RW drive. Run lilo to write that to the MBR. Then when you reboot, Linux will not load IDE drivers for your CD-RW drive, and you can type 'modprobe ide-scsi' to load ide-scsi module to run the drive in SCSI emulation. See if it shows up in 'cdrecord -scanbus' now. -Tom
[expert] RE:CD-Recording under linux
Check you the howto for cd-recording it tells you how to modify the kernel. It worked for me. -Al
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
Please give us a little more info. What kind of cd burner do you have? In particular, is it an IDE or SCSI? If is IDE you will have to recompile the kernel with support for IDE/SCSI host emulation. On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey all, > > I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping for > a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the > default cdrecord (1.82?) and xcdroaster from the distro. When I run 'cdrecord > -scanbus' I get the error " ". When I start up xcdroaster I get the message > that the SCSI generic module (sg) isn't loaded into the kernel. When I do an > 'insmod sg' it says it's already loaded and lsmod confirms this (it has > [autoclean ?] in the right column). By looking at the CD-Writing Mini-HOWTO the > Mandrake 2.2.9-27 kernel seems to have all required components either loadable > as modules or compiled into the kernel. Am I missing something? > > I've tried running under my id and as root and neither work. Do I need to mount > the device before it can be found? > > Any help much appreciated as this is the last thing I need to get working before > I can wipe Windoze off my hard drive...thanks! > > Steve Fox 8?) > http://w3.rchland.ibm.com/~sjfox (IBM Intranet) > http://pcxtreme.org (External) > >
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
There is a nicely done cd-writer howto floating around here some where, i've forgotten the URL it shouldn't be to hard to find in the archives. My guess is you forgot to modprobe ide-scsi or didn't add the append for lilo. On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Steven wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping for > > a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the > > OK, I've managed to get this working, so here are my helpful hints for you: > > The documentation is probably stashed in /usr/doc/xcdroast on your hard disk > - dig around there -- you'll proably want to read it. > > Here is the short version of what it says: > > Recompile your kernel -- > > You have to compile the ide-scsii emulation, generic scsii support, and scsi > cdrom drivers into the kernel, not as modules. (If you work out how to do > this with modules, let us know ... ) > > You have to compile out (that is, don't include) the ide cdrom support. If > you have an ide floppy, compile that into the kernel too, or the scsii > emulator will interfere with that too. > > Your cdrom is now /dev/sr1 or /dev/sr0, so don't forget to change the > /dev/cdrom hard link. > > They recomend that if your hard disk is an IDE one, that you use the -u > option with hdparm (check the hdparm man page and see your > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file). I still got xcdroast/cdrecord to work without > using -u, but I have put the -u option in, and it seems better (I burned a > cd from an image on the HDD at 4x, and installed Corel WP8 at the same > time, so the IDE disk seems quite fast enough for me ...) > > The current xcdroast is still quite limited, especially for audio tracks, so > you probably won't wipe Windows, but it's good for most jobs. > > Good luck, > Steven >
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
I read somewhere that the ATAPI interface will be used first. When you recompile the kernel with sg built in (require, not as a module), remove the ATAPI code. This will force the scsi emulation to be sued for the cdrom drive, not the ATAPI code. On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey all, > > I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping for > a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the > default cdrecord (1.82?) and xcdroaster from the distro. When I run 'cdrecord > -scanbus' I get the error " ". When I start up xcdroaster I get the message > that the SCSI generic module (sg) isn't loaded into the kernel. When I do an > 'insmod sg' it says it's already loaded and lsmod confirms this (it has > [autoclean ?] in the right column). By looking at the CD-Writing Mini-HOWTO the > Mandrake 2.2.9-27 kernel seems to have all required components either loadable > as modules or compiled into the kernel. Am I missing something? > > I've tried running under my id and as root and neither work. Do I need to mount > the device before it can be found? > > Any help much appreciated as this is the last thing I need to get working before > I can wipe Windoze off my hard drive...thanks! >
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
You *DON'T* need to recompile the kernel. I use a CD Writer with the standard Mandrake kernel. 1)Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf: append="hdb=ide-scsi" 2)Reboot 3)Then, you can simply do a "modprobe ide-scsi", and voila! You can add the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. I remember Axalon had a sexier solution, but I can't quite remember it... Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Steven wrote: > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:25:55 + > From: Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping for > > a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the > > OK, I've managed to get this working, so here are my helpful hints for you: > > The documentation is probably stashed in /usr/doc/xcdroast on your hard disk > - dig around there -- you'll proably want to read it. > > Here is the short version of what it says: > > Recompile your kernel -- > > You have to compile the ide-scsii emulation, generic scsii support, and scsi > cdrom drivers into the kernel, not as modules. (If you work out how to do > this with modules, let us know ... ) > > You have to compile out (that is, don't include) the ide cdrom support. If > you have an ide floppy, compile that into the kernel too, or the scsii > emulator will interfere with that too. > > Your cdrom is now /dev/sr1 or /dev/sr0, so don't forget to change the > /dev/cdrom hard link. > > They recomend that if your hard disk is an IDE one, that you use the -u > option with hdparm (check the hdparm man page and see your > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file). I still got xcdroast/cdrecord to work without > using -u, but I have put the -u option in, and it seems better (I burned a > cd from an image on the HDD at 4x, and installed Corel WP8 at the same > time, so the IDE disk seems quite fast enough for me ...) > > The current xcdroast is still quite limited, especially for audio tracks, so > you probably won't wipe Windows, but it's good for most jobs. > > Good luck, > Steven >
Re: [expert] CD writing under Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping for > a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the OK, I've managed to get this working, so here are my helpful hints for you: The documentation is probably stashed in /usr/doc/xcdroast on your hard disk - dig around there -- you'll proably want to read it. Here is the short version of what it says: Recompile your kernel -- You have to compile the ide-scsii emulation, generic scsii support, and scsi cdrom drivers into the kernel, not as modules. (If you work out how to do this with modules, let us know ... ) You have to compile out (that is, don't include) the ide cdrom support. If you have an ide floppy, compile that into the kernel too, or the scsii emulator will interfere with that too. Your cdrom is now /dev/sr1 or /dev/sr0, so don't forget to change the /dev/cdrom hard link. They recomend that if your hard disk is an IDE one, that you use the -u option with hdparm (check the hdparm man page and see your /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file). I still got xcdroast/cdrecord to work without using -u, but I have put the -u option in, and it seems better (I burned a cd from an image on the HDD at 4x, and installed Corel WP8 at the same time, so the IDE disk seems quite fast enough for me ...) The current xcdroast is still quite limited, especially for audio tracks, so you probably won't wipe Windows, but it's good for most jobs. Good luck, Steven
[expert] CD writing under Linux
Hey all, I haven't been able to get my CD-RW drive working under Linux yet and hoping for a few helpful hints. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 via RPM) with the default cdrecord (1.82?) and xcdroaster from the distro. When I run 'cdrecord -scanbus' I get the error " ". When I start up xcdroaster I get the message that the SCSI generic module (sg) isn't loaded into the kernel. When I do an 'insmod sg' it says it's already loaded and lsmod confirms this (it has [autoclean ?] in the right column). By looking at the CD-Writing Mini-HOWTO the Mandrake 2.2.9-27 kernel seems to have all required components either loadable as modules or compiled into the kernel. Am I missing something? I've tried running under my id and as root and neither work. Do I need to mount the device before it can be found? Any help much appreciated as this is the last thing I need to get working before I can wipe Windoze off my hard drive...thanks! Steve Fox 8?) http://w3.rchland.ibm.com/~sjfox (IBM Intranet) http://pcxtreme.org (External)
Re: [expert] Big Time Kernel Problems
- Original Message - From: Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; B&B Access Technology <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Big Time Kernel Problems > B&B Access Technology wrote: > > > > > Have you reconfigured and rerun lilo ? > > > > Same problem here also...and yes reconfig'd kernel and ran lilo... > > Suggestions welcomed. -renzo > > try this: > * rm -fr /lib/modules/VERSION_OF_YOUR_NEWLY_COMPILED_KERNEL > * make modules_install > * depmod -a VERSION_OF_YOUR_NEWLY_COMPILED_KERNEL # before rebooting Thanks for input...now locks at 'uncompressing LinuxOK, booting kernel' line... for reference trying to update to kernel-2.2.9-27mdk, system runs fine if /etc/lilo.conf is changed back to kernel-2.2.9-19mdk -renzo
Re: [expert] Big Time Kernel Problems
B&B Access Technology wrote:
>
> > Have you reconfigured and rerun lilo ?
>
> Same problem here also...and yes reconfig'd kernel and ran lilo...
> Suggestions welcomed. -renzo
try this:
* rm -fr /lib/modules/VERSION_OF_YOUR_NEWLY_COMPILED_KERNEL
* make modules_install
* depmod -a VERSION_OF_YOUR_NEWLY_COMPILED_KERNEL # before rebooting
> > my problem. By default it has the PPP as a module. I need it to load at boot
> > up. Is there a way I can add this to the conf.modules to do so. Also I need
> > it to use the apm function of the new 2.2.9 kernel. Instead of attempting to
> > Re-compile again. Can I add that somehow. Is there a program that will allow
> > me to change some of the Kernel parameters.
you may alter your kernel configuration by sending some data into
/proc/* entries but it's only to manage network, ... NOT to add drivers.
If you nedd ppp at bootup, don't compile it as module but in plain
kernel ("y", not "m").
If you need apm, enable it in General Setup menu.
--
MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Thierry
Re: [expert] (More) problems with vmware and recompiled kernel
OK, Thanks for the suggestions. I first got vmware to work by compiling a kernel from clean source from kernel.org. The VMWare fix posted by Tom lets me run vmware on the kernel compiled from the Mandrake source tree (but then vmware won't run on the kernel from clean source !) "You pays your money, you takes your choice ..." Thanks for the help, Steven
Re: [expert] network
I will never doubt you again. --- Axalon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, [iso-8859-1] Mike Fistonich > wrote: > > > Thanks for the advice , > > unfortunately I was too busy to try your > suggestions yet, but I'm > > also not confident they'll help > > since after typing 'telnet 90.0.0.3' I immediatley > > > get the response 'connected to 90.0.0.3' but > > it then takes a long time for the login prompt > after connecting . ( > > lynx & netscape also get an immediate response > from the other > > machine(i.e the apache intro page)) > > Right, and if you put your IP HOSTNAME in /etc/hosts > inetd will not take forever trying to figure out if > it should let you in > or not. Apache does not use the tcpwrappers by > default so, if apache > responds instantly it points even more to the > tcpwrappers. > > > --- Axalon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Linux Happy User wrote: > > > > > > > Mike Fistonich wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > Does anyone how I can reduce the long delay > when > > > > > telnetting between two linux (L-M 5.3) boxes > , > > > > > they can ping eachother with no delay but > > > > > ftp & telnet do nothing for 30s or so > > > > > before the login prompt . > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Check the way each machine is recognized by > the > > > other. You may have an > > > > authorization file '/etc/hosts.allow' refering > to > > > a DNS domain (like > > > > ALL: .local.domain) while address for your > > > machines can not be resolved > > > > through the DNS. To check that the source of > your > > > problem, try putting > > > > en 'IP / hostname' mapping in the /etc/hosts > of > > > your machines for the > > > > other machine. > > > > > > > > Didier > > > > > > > > > > Yep this is probably whats going on, if they > give > > > you to much grief setup > > > a mini dns server. Putting them in /etc/hosts > should > > > solve it however > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [expert] Big Time Kernel Problems
- Original Message - From: Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Big Time Kernel Problems > James Capone wrote: > > > > Ok Here it is. > > > >I recompiled my Kernel. Had some problems at first. It hung on Finding > > Module dependencies.. > > > > So I did a ctrl-c and got it to boot. > > > > The I run depmod -a reboot > > > > I got abunch of Symlink errors. So I decided to run a make clean and make > > mrproper and re-do the kernel again. > > > > Now this time When I boot it just gets to > > Running Linux... > > > > Then never passes that. So I boot into the Old Kernel and it fails on > > loading modules also. It will try to but Fail on some of them. So I am going > > to Re-install the Entire OS. No big deal it was not configured yet. Here is > > my problem. By default it has the PPP as a module. I need it to load at boot > > up. Is there a way I can add this to the conf.modules to do so. Also I need > > it to use the apm function of the new 2.2.9 kernel. Instead of attempting to > > Re-compile again. Can I add that somehow. Is there a program that will allow > > me to change some of the Kernel parameters. > > > > Please allow me to know. But If I do need to recompile should I do it in the > > /usr/src/linux Directory or the /usr/src/linux-2.2.9 directory. I believe > > the /linux one is a linked one because it shows up as linux@ > > > > Please let me know. And should I blow away the /lib/modules directory before > > I compile so it will load it correctly. > > > > > Have you reconfigured and rerun lilo ? Same problem here also...and yes reconfig'd kernel and ran lilo... Suggestions welcomed. -renzo
RE: [expert] cgi scripts
Sorry for the disagrement... but I think it could be the right place because it can be due to a misconfiguration of the Apache which is running on Mandrake 6.0. Seb
