Re: [expert] Linux frustration

2000-04-15 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Tim & Val Litwiller wrote:
> 
> For your samba configuration you will want to download webmin. It puts
> most of the setting in an easy to understand web app. It is the first
> thing I add to a mandrake box, It is much easier to use than all the
> tools that ship with it.

Hmn... well, SWAT is pretty brilliant, if you ask me. It's a wonderful
configuration interface. Have you tried that?

I was very impressed the first time I tried SWAT. I thought, "this is
open source? wow!"

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] IP Masquerading, The ABCs of

2000-04-15 Thread Lisa Mountjoy

John:

I have the same setup as you, somewhat.  I have a hub, 2 computers and a DSL
modem.  Computer A is my mandrake server, B is a win98 client, and the DSL
modem connected to the hub.  Computer A is setup with the static ip address i
was assigned for my net connection, with an alias ip of 192.168.0.1.  The win98
client connects to the net through ip masquerading i set up on the linux
server.  So far everything runs smoothly...originally i had the win98 machine
being the one directly connected to the net, but that was a pain in the neck.

Lisa Mountjoy

 > On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > Hi, I've got a system arrangement that goes something like this.
> > I have computer A(Mandrake 7) and computer B(Corel 1) connected to a hub.
> > Also connected to the hub is a cable modem, C. C is good friends with
> > A, but isn't really on speaking terms with B.
> > (The cable modem is set up for the MAC address in computer A)
> > 
> > Each computer has one ethernet card.  I can get A talking to B if
> > I ifconfig eth0 to a private network IP (192.168.0.1) but then it won't
> > talk to the cable.  B won't talk to A if A is set to the IP address that
> > the cable modem gives it(via DHCP).
> > 
> > Is it possible to get A & B talking to each other while A is on
> > the net?  If so, I assume I can masquarade B through A.  Or am I going to
> > have to get a second ethernet card for computer A?
> > 
> You'll most likely need to get a second NIC for computer A.
> Since the IP address is apparently going to computer A and
> not to the cablemodem, you're stuck.
>   John



Re: [expert] Linux frustration

2000-04-15 Thread Andrew Vogel

On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:25:07 -0500, you wrote:

>For your samba configuration you will want to download webmin. It puts
>most of the setting in an easy to understand web app. It is the first
>thing I add to a mandrake box, It is much easier to use than all the
>tools that ship with it.
>
Thanks for the tip. I'm installing it now!

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Re: [expert] Linux frustration

2000-04-15 Thread Andrew Vogel

On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:34:55 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>Make sure you uncomment the line pertaining to swat in /etc/inetd.conf and
>killall -HUP inetd
>
>Also keep in mind that if you have a line in hosts.deny file that rejects
>ALL, using "localhost:901" won't work unless you specifically specify
>127.0.0.1 in hosts.allow.  If you just allowed whatevery your ip address
>is, (your ip address):901 should work w/o adding the 127... line in your
>hosts.allow
>
>> I tried using SWAT by accessing localhost:901, but it doesn't seem to work on
>> my Linux box...
>
Thanks, John... I added 127.0.0.1 to my hosts.allow to make that much easier.
Got Samba/SWAT working now... Now if I could just figure out how to access my
PC from my LINUX... I can access Linux from PC, no problem...

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[expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-15 Thread Ken Archer

When I installed 7.0 I set it up to go directly to X using "kdm".  On a single
user machine, however, I prefer to use "guichooser" to choose my window manager.
Question is how do I stop it from using kdm and go to a console?  If I set it to
go to init3 and then use startx, it will still go to kdm if I am not mistaken.

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Re: [expert] My network connection is messed up.

2000-04-15 Thread Jeanette Russo

"John D. Kim" wrote:

> I'm having a samba problem in my home as well connecting to my win2k
> machine.  It sees the computers and the shares, but I can't access any of
> the shares, even though my roommate's winbox can access them fine.  I
> remember reading somewhere that Win2k implemented certain changes to smb
> that breaks samba.  So win95,98, and nt can access win2k, but not from
> linux...  But the same document that I read also said that someone in
> samba is working with microsoft(yes, I know) about this and will get it
> fixed shortly.  Has anyone out there been able to access win2k shares from
> linux using samba?  If you did, which version of Samba are you using?  The
> first block of free time I get, I'm downgrading my win2k back to 98...
>
> John Kim
> Linux System Engineer @ ASL - visit us as www.aslab.com
>
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote:
>
> > Ok. I went back and saw that Mandrake had only installed the Samba rpm and
> > did not install the client and common rpms. I installed these and I no
> > longer get any freeze ups with SAMBA. However when I click on the computer
> > that contains my share file, my share file does not come up. But when I
> > click on the computer that contains the printer share, all of the shares on
> > that computer are visible. (this is working with gnomba by the way) My share
> > file is located on a computer that is running win2000. Could this be a
> > problem? I can see the share fine from a computer using Be and from
> > computers using NT. Also I get the following error messges when I shutdown:
> > /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K35.smb: [ := : unary operation expected
> > /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/k75netfs: [ := : unary operation expected
> > /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K90network [ := : unary operation expected
> >
> > And when I boot I get similar messages:
> > /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S10network [ := : unary operation expected
> > /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S91smb: [ := : unary operation expected
> > /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S25netfs: [:= : unary operation expected
> >
> > Any ideas what could be causing this?
> > >Hmn.
> > >
> > >You need to go back a few steps. Attack one problem at a time; let's
> > >start with Samba.
> > >
> > >It looks like you've broken your Samba install -- that is, you didn't do
> > >a clean upgrade. Did you remove your old version before you put in the
> > >new version? (I suspect this because it sounds like your scripts are in
> > >disarray).
> > >
> > >First, let's see if you can ping the other hosts on your network. Get
> > >the IP addresses for the hosts you are having trouble with, and ping
> > >them. We need to make sure that you can talk to them properly.
> > >
> > >Second, make sure you don't have any mounted SMB volumes. Unmount them
> > >if you do.
> > >
> > >Third, use smbclient to see if you can look at the hosts in question:
> > >
> > ># smbclient -L hostname
> > >
> > >If there is a problem, it will return errors.
> > >
> > >Try this first, and then get back to us.
> > >
> > >-Stephen-
> >
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I am not having a problem with Samba and W2000 seems to work the same as NT?
I am using plain text passwords, never could get the encrypted ones to work
Jeanette





Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread Alan N.

Sevatio Octavio wrote:
> 
> I would like to be able to view .png images on netscape.  Would any of you know 
>where I can get the plug-in?
> 
> Seve

I just set up gimp to do it..

Under the applications chose the .png and edit it..

Choose application, not plug in.

make it gimp %s

Thats it..

Alan

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Re: Re[2]: [expert] A rescue CD

2000-04-15 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Gateways do, which I love, but I know that at least HP's don't.   
> 
>   bios? version? thanks.
> 
I'm using an ABP940-UA SCSI card hooked to a Yamaha 4x4x16
CDRW. When I reinstalled Linux today I got that boot
menu. I think you just have to have a BIOS (system or
controller BIOS -- usually SCSI) which supports booting off
the CDROM.
John



Re: [expert] IP Masquerading, The ABCs of

2000-04-15 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> Hi, I've got a system arrangement that goes something like this.
> I have computer A(Mandrake 7) and computer B(Corel 1) connected to a hub.
> Also connected to the hub is a cable modem, C. C is good friends with
> A, but isn't really on speaking terms with B.
> (The cable modem is set up for the MAC address in computer A)
> 
>   Each computer has one ethernet card.  I can get A talking to B if
> I ifconfig eth0 to a private network IP (192.168.0.1) but then it won't
> talk to the cable.  B won't talk to A if A is set to the IP address that
> the cable modem gives it(via DHCP).
> 
>   Is it possible to get A & B talking to each other while A is on
> the net?  If so, I assume I can masquarade B through A.  Or am I going to
> have to get a second ethernet card for computer A?
> 
You'll most likely need to get a second NIC for computer A.
Since the IP address is apparently going to computer A and
not to the cablemodem, you're stuck.
John



Re: [expert] A rescue CD

2000-04-15 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> uh... another question? is it true that a cd-booting bios should
> present a menu if there are several boot images? or a special bios doing
> so? or a program?
> 
My SCSI CD presented me with a menu when I reinstalled
Linux today. Despite the fact that there is only one
bootable image on the CD.
John



Re: [expert] What happened???

2000-04-15 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> What happened to the list??? I haven't received anything for over a day and 
> a half now.
>
Be glad. Half of the messages are dupes and 1/3 are
off-topic. Leaves very little REAL messages... :-(
John



Re: [expert] Lilo Remove

2000-04-15 Thread Mage Grimau

Use a DOS/Win boot disk and run "fdisk /mbr"

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Many thanks (once again) for your reply. Ok, i removed all the partitions,
> rewritten the partition table with just a fat 32 booteable partition in
> order to use fips later. 
> 
> But a problem appears. Lilo was not removed from MBR (i must say: "i
> couldn't remove lilo from MBR"). then, it tries to
> find a linux root directory, but it won't. Then, i can't boot from win. Is
> there a free way to format the whole disk even the MBR??? i think a low
> level format could do it. But i couldn't find
> a low level format option in the bios.  
> 
> in the howtos, i found that a 
>   fdisk /mbr 
> in dos would do it. But it doesn't work. What could i still be doing wrong
> (don't ask me "u are trying to install windows", i already know it)
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Linux frustration

2000-04-15 Thread John D. Kim

Make sure you uncomment the line pertaining to swat in /etc/inetd.conf and
killall -HUP inetd

Also keep in mind that if you have a line in hosts.deny file that rejects
ALL, using "localhost:901" won't work unless you specifically specify
127.0.0.1 in hosts.allow.  If you just allowed whatevery your ip address
is, (your ip address):901 should work w/o adding the 127... line in your
hosts.allow

John Kim
Linux System Engineer @ ASL - visit us as www.aslab.com

On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Andrew Vogel wrote:

> I tried using SWAT by accessing localhost:901, but it doesn't seem to work on
> my Linux box...




Re: [expert] Linux frustration

2000-04-15 Thread Tim & Val Litwiller

For your samba configuration you will want to download webmin. It puts
most of the setting in an easy to understand web app. It is the first
thing I add to a mandrake box, It is much easier to use than all the
tools that ship with it.



Andrew Vogel wrote:
> 
> I started with a plan. A simple plan... Create a Linux box from
> 'left-overs' from previous computers and learn the OS.
> 
> After researching, Linux-Mandrake became my choice, and I jumped on it at
> the 6.0 series. I'm currently using 7.02.
> 
> I want to be able to do simple things on my Linux machine -- use an
> external ZIP drive, configure SAMBA so that my Windows 2000 machine can
> see/use Linux drives, and practice with an in-house webserver on Apache.
> 
> My frustration is this... Even though I'm pretty computer saavy, having
> used them for more than half of my life, I have only been able to get the
> webserver running on my machine. ZIP and SAMBA are still not working.
> 
> I've read darned near everything I can get my hands on regarding SAMBA and
> ZIP, but they just don't work for me.
> 
> This is tremendously frustrating.
> 
> ---
> =
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Re: [expert] Linux frustration

2000-04-15 Thread Andrew Vogel

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:59:56 -0400, you wrote:

>Andrew Vogel wrote:
>> 
>> I started with a plan. A simple plan... Create a Linux box from
>> 'left-overs' from previous computers and learn the OS.
>> 
>> After researching, Linux-Mandrake became my choice, and I jumped on it at
>> the 6.0 series. I'm currently using 7.02.
>> 
>> I want to be able to do simple things on my Linux machine -- use an
>> external ZIP drive, configure SAMBA so that my Windows 2000 machine can
>> see/use Linux drives, and practice with an in-house webserver on Apache.
>> 
>> My frustration is this... Even though I'm pretty computer saavy, having
>> used them for more than half of my life, I have only been able to get the
>> webserver running on my machine. ZIP and SAMBA are still not working.
>> 
>> I've read darned near everything I can get my hands on regarding SAMBA and
>> ZIP, but they just don't work for me.
>> 
>> This is tremendously frustrating.
>
>*sigh*
>
>That information is not going to help us help you.
>
>HOW are Samba and the Zip drive not working? What are they doing? Pipe
>the error output to a file, and post the contents.
>
Well, when I type "modprobe ppa", I get:
/lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
parport: Device or resource busy

And I've got SAMBA installed and configured as a STARTUP SERVICE in
DrakConf->Startup Services. I see it starting when the machine boots. When I'm
in Win2K, I can see my Linux machine (named KAT.LINUX -- shows up in Network
Places->Computers Near Me as "KAT", but when I double-click on KAT, I get an
error box saying, "\\KAT is not accessible. The account is not authorized to
log on from this station."

I tried using SWAT by accessing localhost:901, but it doesn't seem to work on
my Linux box...

Any/all help is appreciated.

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Re: [expert] Printer

2000-04-15 Thread Charles Curley

On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 05:59:04PM -0400, John wrote:
-> 
-> I am running Mandrake 6.1. I tried to setup my printer so I can print out some
-> pictures that I have, and they come out in ASCII only. I have a Cannon BJC 620.
-> 
-> Anyone have a clue how to fix this problem? 
-> 
-> Thank you

Have you run printtool's test pages? If so, with what result?

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Re: [expert] My network connection is messed up.

2000-04-15 Thread John D. Kim

I'm having a samba problem in my home as well connecting to my win2k
machine.  It sees the computers and the shares, but I can't access any of
the shares, even though my roommate's winbox can access them fine.  I
remember reading somewhere that Win2k implemented certain changes to smb
that breaks samba.  So win95,98, and nt can access win2k, but not from
linux...  But the same document that I read also said that someone in
samba is working with microsoft(yes, I know) about this and will get it
fixed shortly.  Has anyone out there been able to access win2k shares from
linux using samba?  If you did, which version of Samba are you using?  The
first block of free time I get, I'm downgrading my win2k back to 98...

John Kim
Linux System Engineer @ ASL - visit us as www.aslab.com

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote:

> Ok. I went back and saw that Mandrake had only installed the Samba rpm and 
> did not install the client and common rpms. I installed these and I no 
> longer get any freeze ups with SAMBA. However when I click on the computer 
> that contains my share file, my share file does not come up. But when I 
> click on the computer that contains the printer share, all of the shares on 
> that computer are visible. (this is working with gnomba by the way) My share 
> file is located on a computer that is running win2000. Could this be a 
> problem? I can see the share fine from a computer using Be and from 
> computers using NT. Also I get the following error messges when I shutdown:
> /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K35.smb: [ := : unary operation expected
> /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/k75netfs: [ := : unary operation expected
> /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K90network [ := : unary operation expected
> 
> And when I boot I get similar messages:
> /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S10network [ := : unary operation expected
> /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S91smb: [ := : unary operation expected
> /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S25netfs: [:= : unary operation expected
> 
> Any ideas what could be causing this?
> >Hmn.
> >
> >You need to go back a few steps. Attack one problem at a time; let's
> >start with Samba.
> >
> >It looks like you've broken your Samba install -- that is, you didn't do
> >a clean upgrade. Did you remove your old version before you put in the
> >new version? (I suspect this because it sounds like your scripts are in
> >disarray).
> >
> >First, let's see if you can ping the other hosts on your network. Get
> >the IP addresses for the hosts you are having trouble with, and ping
> >them. We need to make sure that you can talk to them properly.
> >
> >Second, make sure you don't have any mounted SMB volumes. Unmount them
> >if you do.
> >
> >Third, use smbclient to see if you can look at the hosts in question:
> >
> ># smbclient -L hostname
> >
> >If there is a problem, it will return errors.
> >
> >Try this first, and then get back to us.
> >
> >-Stephen-
> 
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[expert] Lilo Remove

2000-04-15 Thread tessonec

Many thanks (once again) for your reply. Ok, i removed all the partitions,
rewritten the partition table with just a fat 32 booteable partition in
order to use fips later. 

But a problem appears. Lilo was not removed from MBR (i must say: "i
couldn't remove lilo from MBR"). then, it tries to
find a linux root directory, but it won't. Then, i can't boot from win. Is
there a free way to format the whole disk even the MBR??? i think a low
level format could do it. But i couldn't find
a low level format option in the bios.  

in the howtos, i found that a 
  fdisk /mbr 
in dos would do it. But it doesn't work. What could i still be doing wrong
(don't ask me "u are trying to install windows", i already know it)


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Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-15 Thread Andrew George

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Kirk McElhearn wrote:
> On 14/04/00 19:45, Stephen F. Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to 
> have said:
> 
> >> OK, I have finally managed to get two distributions installed, and to get
> >> lilo to work.  But when I try to tweek the lilo.conf, I get a message
> >> that each of my choices is added, but then it says No images have been
> >> defined.  It does not update my changes in the mbr.  What could I be
> >> doing wrong?
> >
> >Show us your /etc/lilo.conf, man.
> 
> boot = /dev/fd0
> timeout = 100
> prompt
>   message = /boot/message
>   default = dos
>   vga = normal
>   read-only
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> keytable=/boot/pc-dvorak-latin1.klt
> image = /boot/vmlinuz
>   label = mdk2
>   root = /dev/hdb11
> image = /boot/vmlinuz
>   label = mdk
>   root = /dev/hda6
> other = /dev/hda1
>   label = win
>   table=/dev/hda
> other = /dev/fd0
>   label = floppy
>   unsafe
> 
> Kirk

Errtwo questions
1) Are you running lilo -R ? (the lilo doc says running lilo -R gives you that
error)
 2) Is the symlink for vmlinuz still there?

Andrew



Re: [expert] Follow-up - Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-15 Thread Andrew George

On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> Andrew George wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> [snipped]
> 
> May have already been answered, but in case it hasn't ...
> 
> > >
> > Heres a related question
> > The following is part of my partition table
> > Device  Mount Point Distribution
> > /hdb5   /boot   Debian
> > /hdb6   /   Debian
> > /hdc6   /boot   Mandrake
> > /hdc7   /   Mandrake
> >
> 
> [snipped]
> 
> > For example...If I'm in Mandrake with dev/hdb5 mounted as /mnt/debboot
> > should I specify the kernal location for Debian as /mnt/debboot/vmlinuz-2.0.38
> > and Lilo will set the MBR to go to hdb5 (even though it will mount hdb5 as /boot
> > when the kernal reads Debian's fstab)?
> 
> No.  When you'ld boot into Deb, lilo would look for the kernel image in
> /mnt/debboot/ in Deb's / filesystem, because that's how you'ld have defined or
> spec'd it in your lilo configuration.
> 
Actually tried it yesterday and it does work.
I think LILO needs to be able to find the kernel using a valid path in
lilo.conf  when it writes the MBR, but it writes the MBR using disk geometry
location not filesystem tree location (makes sense, there is no filesystem at
that point)
heres the lilo.conf I used - only hassle with it is I've got to remember to
mount the other boot partition in the same place when I want to run an update
on the MBR (/mnt/spare is of course /boot when Debian's running)


boot=/dev/hda
read-only
prompt
timeout=150
vga=normal

image=/boot/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hdc6
label=linux
append=""

other=/dev/hda1
label=win
table=/dev/hda

image=/mnt/spare/vmlinuz-2.0.38
root=/dev/hdb7
label=deb
append=""

Thanks for everyones comments on LILO recently, I would never have figured this
out without reading what everyone had to say

Andrew



Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread Mage Grimau

4.72 does PNG files just fine for me

--- George Czerw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ** Reply to message from Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 15 Apr
> 2000 09:24:14 -0600
> 
> 
> > -> I would like to be able to view .png images on netscape.  Would any of
> you know where I can get the plug-in?
> > 
> > You don't need a plugin, at least for Netscape v 4.61+. Check out
> > http://burnallgifs.org/images/burnallgifs.png as a test sample.
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps they do load in 4.61, but using 4.72, I get an "unknown or
> unsupported image type" error, whenever I attempt to load a *.png. file.
> 
> So if anyone has any ideas, or would like to forward whatever 4.61 is
> using to decihper these files, I guess that we'd both appreciateit!
> 
> George
> 

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Re: [expert] Tulip NIC problem

2000-04-15 Thread Ronald J. Yacketta

heres some food for thought ;)
I have 2 linksys cards
two in my LM box and one in my win2k box
I have a cable modem that uses DHCP and have yet to see any problem with my
etho (the tulip/lnksys card)
matter of fact I have yet to see ANY problem with ANY of my cards/network
stuff

I have in the past used 3c509b's with my linksys as well as a smc card.
neither combo resulted in ANY problems.

just some food for though :)
Ron

- Original Message -
From: "Larry Sword" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Tulip NIC problem


> "Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote:
>
> > I own one of these Linksys Adapters and it works fine,
although
> > I have a static IP
> >
> > I think the point that the first poster was making is that the driver
doco
> > explicitly states that there is an issue.  So his point to avoid the
tulip
> > (10/100 Linksys) board is valid.  Hardware is worthless without a set of
> > good drivers.
> >
> > Larry, if you work at Linksys, perhaps you could pressure DEC (or
whomever
> > makes the chips) to give more/better doco to the Linux developers to
solve
> > this issue.  IMHO, given that I've been in the Linux community for a few
> > years, I think it's safe to say that persistantly unstable Linux drivers
> > tend to be caused by the Hardware makers not providing good
documentation.
> > I'm not picking on Linksys because I own several Linksys networking
products
> > and I've had good experiences with them.
> >
> > Matt
> >
>
> No I don't work at Linksys. Sorry if my post incorrectly conveyed that. I
do
> agree that hardware manufactures all need to face the fact that Linux is a
> valid operating system.  As more and more people and the industry start
using
> or converting to Linux they will be forced,  if by nothing else than pure
> economic reasons, to provide drivers and support.
>
>
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Larry Sword [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Careful with the Linksys 10/100 under Linux, or any 10/100
> > > NIC with a "PNIC" Chip. I've been to the website of the
> > > writer about two months ago, and discovered this little note:
> > > >
> > > > "Due to the lack? of documentation on the PNIC chip, autosensing
> > > > the network" is/was not a feature of the driver the author
> > > could provide.
> > > >
> > >
> > > IAW Linksys:
> > >
> > > COMPATABILITY NOTE: Linksys regularly tests its network
> > > adapters with Li nux, and finds that the adapters work well
> > > in our testing lab. However, Linux software drivers for Linksys
> > > network
> > > adapters are developed independently by third-party
> > > developers who support the
> > > Linux open source philosophy. Linksys is not responsible for
> > > guaranteeing the
> > > compatibility of its adapters with Linux, since it does not
> > > control how or
> > > by whom network drivers are developed.
> > >
> > >
>
>




[expert] Printer

2000-04-15 Thread John


I am running Mandrake 6.1. I tried to setup my printer so I can print out some
pictures that I have, and they come out in ASCII only. I have a Cannon BJC 620.

Anyone have a clue how to fix this problem? 

Thank you



Re: [expert] The Saga of Netscape and PNGs

2000-04-15 Thread Eric L. Brine


> Currently, on some web pages, the PNG files will load and display
> without a problem, and others they give an "unknown file type" error
> (apparently generated by Plugger).  If I uninstall Plugger, Netscape
> will load some PNGs and ask me what to do with others.  Very surreal
> problem

Have you checked what MIME type is returned by the web server for those
who load compared to those who don't load? It could be there is more than
one MIME type returned for PNG images.

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Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk

2000-04-15 Thread Mage Grimau

I figure I'll be fine with 20G for now, and if I need more space I'll add
another drive rather than try to move stuff around.

--- Mike Corbeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mage Grimau wrote:
> 
> > I have PM 4 that complains that my partition table is corrupt when I've
> > installed either Linux (Mandrake) or Win98. It's quite happy with NT4 and
> > Win95. PM5 has no problems with my Linux/98/NT4 setup, but I find I don't
> > need it any more. Installing 98 then NT then linux made em all happy.
> >
> 
> Snipped out all the old stuff.
> 
> You say that you don't need PM anylonger.  What about resizing used
> partitions?
> On the other hand, am a fellow of very little financial means; therefore,
> my 9GB
> system spread over 2GB and 7GB HDDs is more limiting than what many new
> systems
> are coming factory shipped with these days.  I guess if someone has a lot
> of HDD
> space, then configurations for various OSs can be made large enough that
> resizing active partitions is never necessary.
> 
> 
> mike
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] PNG Netscape problem solved (for me anyway)

2000-04-15 Thread George Czerw

** Reply to message from Gary Bunker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 15 Apr
2000 16:19:37 -0500 (CDT)


> I went into Netscape's preferences, and erased the PNG MIME types
> completely.  After I restarted Netscape, the PNGs that gave me fits
> before work.
> 
> It's all a miracle, and it makes no sense unless Plugger took control
> of files that it is actually incapable of displaying.

Wow, it worked!

I went into applications and DELETED the entry for PNG Image.  Then saved
the settings.  When I got back to the main window and reloaded the page
with the *.PNG file, it came right up on the screen!   Didn't even have to
reboot.

Strange...guess I'll try doing that if any other plug-ins fail to work!

George



Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread Charles Curley

On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 03:45:35PM -0400, George Czerw wrote:
-> ** Reply to message from Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 15 Apr
-> 2000 12:20:32 -0600
-> 
-> > Odd. I checked; 4.61 does not use a plugin to display pngs. Oddly enough,
-> > my mime type is set to "unknown: prompt user". Perhaps there is a bug in
-> > 4.6.1 that displays pngs in spite of the mime type, which was fixed in
-> > 4.7x, and all you need to do is set the mime type to have netscape display
-> > it?
-> > 
-> > Then again, maybe not. I set the mime type to display with an external
-> > program (xv "%s"), then back to "unknown". Now if I right click on a .png
-> > embedded in a web page, it wants to ask me instead of just displaying
-> > it. I don't recall if that worked before I started mucking with the
-> > preferences. Drat. But it does display correctly in a web page.
-> > 
-> > I have noticed that 4.61 is defective in that does not correctly handle
-> > transparent backgrounds. On 4.61, it makes the background black. Perhaps
-> > your test file has a transparent background and 4.72 has a worse failure?
-> 
-> 
-> Currently, my 4.72 is as configured follows:
-> 
-> Description:  PNG Image
-> MIME Type:  image/x-png
-> Suffixes:  png
-> 
-> Plug In:  Plugger 3.2is checked.
-> 
-> When I switch from plug-in:  Plugger 3.2 to application: 
-> /usr/X11R6/bin/xv %s
-> 
-> NOTHING HAPPENS!   Not even an error!   From the command line,
-> /usr/X11R^/bin/xv gets the xv splash screen to appear.

Hmmm. Try just "xv '%s'". That works for me. I would think that an
absolute path would be more likely to work than a path dependent on the
environment variable PATH. Unless Netscape is being secure here and
disallowing absolute paths.


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[expert] PNG Netscape problem solved (for me anyway)

2000-04-15 Thread Gary Bunker

It's all magic...

I went into Netscape's preferences, and erased the PNG MIME types
completely.  After I restarted Netscape, the PNGs that gave me fits
before work.

It's all a miracle, and it makes no sense unless Plugger took control
of files that it is actually incapable of displaying.
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[expert] The Saga of Netscape and PNGs

2000-04-15 Thread Gary Bunker

I've noticed the same problems with PNG files in Netscape (using 4.72
currently) and Plugger.  I've not found a way around it, yet.  The
files will load sometimes, and other times not.  Mozilla handles all
the different flavors of PNG without a problem, but it has plenty of
other problems that make it a non-starter.

Amaya is a less-than-full featured program that can handle PNGs ok as a
web browser, and Opera is supposed to be out RSN, but we'll see when
that is exactly. :-)

Currently, on some web pages, the PNG files will load and display
without a problem, and others they give an "unknown file type" error
(apparently generated by Plugger).  If I uninstall Plugger, Netscape
will load some PNGs and ask me what to do with others.  Very surreal
problem, which we discussed a while back at LinuxNewbie: 
check http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001191.html for a
little more detail, but (alas) no solution.
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Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-15 Thread Kirk McElhearn

On 15/04/00 19:54, Mike Corbeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to 
have said:

>> >Show us your /etc/lilo.conf, man.
>>
>> boot = /dev/fd0
>
>If  you want your changes to go to the mbr, then the above line must be 
>changed
>to /dev/hda, which is where the mbr is located.
>
>The way you have it, it'ld used /dev/fd0, which is the floppy.

Yeah, sorry about that.  I had tried both to the MBR and to a floppy, and 
neither worked.  I should have sent it with /hda...

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Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread George Czerw

** Reply to message from Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 15 Apr
2000 12:20:32 -0600

> Odd. I checked; 4.61 does not use a plugin to display pngs. Oddly enough,
> my mime type is set to "unknown: prompt user". Perhaps there is a bug in
> 4.6.1 that displays pngs in spite of the mime type, which was fixed in
> 4.7x, and all you need to do is set the mime type to have netscape display
> it?
> 
> Then again, maybe not. I set the mime type to display with an external
> program (xv "%s"), then back to "unknown". Now if I right click on a .png
> embedded in a web page, it wants to ask me instead of just displaying
> it. I don't recall if that worked before I started mucking with the
> preferences. Drat. But it does display correctly in a web page.
> 
> I have noticed that 4.61 is defective in that does not correctly handle
> transparent backgrounds. On 4.61, it makes the background black. Perhaps
> your test file has a transparent background and 4.72 has a worse failure?


Currently, my 4.72 is as configured follows:

Description:  PNG Image
MIME Type:  image/x-png
Suffixes:  png

Plug In:  Plugger 3.2is checked.

When I switch from plug-in:  Plugger 3.2 to application: 
/usr/X11R6/bin/xv %s

NOTHING HAPPENS!   Not even an error!   From the command line,
/usr/X11R^/bin/xv gets the xv splash screen to appear.

George



Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread Charles Curley

On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 01:54:26PM -0400, George Czerw wrote:
-> ** Reply to message from Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 15 Apr
-> 2000 09:24:14 -0600
-> 
-> 
-> > -> I would like to be able to view .png images on netscape.  Would any of you 
know where I can get the plug-in?
-> > 
-> > You don't need a plugin, at least for Netscape v 4.61+. Check out
-> > http://burnallgifs.org/images/burnallgifs.png as a test sample.
-> 
-> 
-> 
-> Perhaps they do load in 4.61, but using 4.72, I get an "unknown or
-> unsupported image type" error, whenever I attempt to load a *.png. file.
-> 
-> So if anyone has any ideas, or would like to forward whatever 4.61 is
-> using to decihper these files, I guess that we'd both appreciateit!

Odd. I checked; 4.61 does not use a plugin to display pngs. Oddly enough,
my mime type is set to "unknown: prompt user". Perhaps there is a bug in
4.6.1 that displays pngs in spite of the mime type, which was fixed in
4.7x, and all you need to do is set the mime type to have netscape display
it?

Then again, maybe not. I set the mime type to display with an external
program (xv "%s"), then back to "unknown". Now if I right click on a .png
embedded in a web page, it wants to ask me instead of just displaying
it. I don't recall if that worked before I started mucking with the
preferences. Drat. But it does display correctly in a web page.

I have noticed that 4.61 is defective in that does not correctly handle
transparent backgrounds. On 4.61, it makes the background black. Perhaps
your test file has a transparent background and 4.72 has a worse failure?

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Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread Charles Curley

On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 09:24:14AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
-> On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 01:15:11AM -0700, Sevatio Octavio wrote:
-> -> I would like to be able to view .png images on netscape.  Would any of you know 
where I can get the plug-in?
-> 
-> You don't need a plugin, at least for Netscape v 4.61+. Check out
-> http://burnallgifs.org/images/burnallgifs.png as a test sample.

Of course, this assumes you are using Netscape, which Sevatio did not
specify. If you are using Lynx, you can use xv, which you will probably
find on your Linux disty CD-ROM. Otherwise try ImageMagick. From the man
page:

"ImageMagick is an X11 package for display and interactive manipulation of
images.  The package includes tools for image conversion, annotation,
compositing, animation, and creating montages.  ImageMagick can read and
write many of the more popular image formats (e.g. JPEG, TIFF, PNM, XPM,
Photo CD, etc.).  ImageMagick is available via anonymous FTP as
ftp://ftp.wizards.dupont.com/pub/ImageMagick/ImageMagick-4.0.9.tar.gz."


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Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread George Czerw

** Reply to message from "Fabrice SERVANT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat,
15 Apr 2000 11:34:33 PDT


> am wandering if you use Plugger3.2 as a general plugin.
> If you do so, I think it is buggy.
> Answer me so we can contact the Plugger man.
> bye bye
> 
> fabricio

Fabricio,

I have plugger 3.2 installed.  No luck with *.png files!

George



Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread Fabrice SERVANT

I am wandering if you use Plugger3.2 as a general plugin.
If you do so, I think it is buggy.
Answer me so we can contact the Plugger man.
bye bye

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Re: [expert] Tulip NIC problem

2000-04-15 Thread Larry Sword

"Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote:

> I own one of these Linksys Adapters and it works fine, although
> I have a static IP
>
> I think the point that the first poster was making is that the driver doco
> explicitly states that there is an issue.  So his point to avoid the tulip
> (10/100 Linksys) board is valid.  Hardware is worthless without a set of
> good drivers.
>
> Larry, if you work at Linksys, perhaps you could pressure DEC (or whomever
> makes the chips) to give more/better doco to the Linux developers to solve
> this issue.  IMHO, given that I've been in the Linux community for a few
> years, I think it's safe to say that persistantly unstable Linux drivers
> tend to be caused by the Hardware makers not providing good documentation.
> I'm not picking on Linksys because I own several Linksys networking products
> and I've had good experiences with them.
>
> Matt
>

No I don't work at Linksys. Sorry if my post incorrectly conveyed that. I do
agree that hardware manufactures all need to face the fact that Linux is a
valid operating system.  As more and more people and the industry start using
or converting to Linux they will be forced,  if by nothing else than pure
economic reasons, to provide drivers and support.


> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry Sword [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Careful with the Linksys 10/100 under Linux, or any 10/100
> > NIC with a "PNIC" Chip. I've been to the website of the
> > writer about two months ago, and discovered this little note:
> > >
> > > "Due to the lack? of documentation on the PNIC chip, autosensing
> > > the network" is/was not a feature of the driver the author
> > could provide.
> > >
> >
> > IAW Linksys:
> >
> > COMPATABILITY NOTE: Linksys regularly tests its network
> > adapters with Li nux, and finds that the adapters work well
> > in our testing lab. However, Linux software drivers for Linksys
> > network
> > adapters are developed independently by third-party
> > developers who support the
> > Linux open source philosophy. Linksys is not responsible for
> > guaranteeing the
> > compatibility of its adapters with Linux, since it does not
> > control how or
> > by whom network drivers are developed.
> >
> >




Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread George Czerw

** Reply to message from Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 15 Apr
2000 09:24:14 -0600


> -> I would like to be able to view .png images on netscape.  Would any of you know 
>where I can get the plug-in?
> 
> You don't need a plugin, at least for Netscape v 4.61+. Check out
> http://burnallgifs.org/images/burnallgifs.png as a test sample.



Perhaps they do load in 4.61, but using 4.72, I get an "unknown or
unsupported image type" error, whenever I attempt to load a *.png. file.

So if anyone has any ideas, or would like to forward whatever 4.61 is
using to decihper these files, I guess that we'd both appreciateit!

George



Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-15 Thread Mike Corbeil

Kirk McElhearn wrote:

> On 14/04/00 19:45, Stephen F. Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to
> have said:
>
> >> OK, I have finally managed to get two distributions installed, and to get
> >> lilo to work.  But when I try to tweek the lilo.conf, I get a message
> >> that each of my choices is added, but then it says No images have been
> >> defined.  It does not update my changes in the mbr.  What could I be
> >> doing wrong?
> >
> >Show us your /etc/lilo.conf, man.
>
> boot = /dev/fd0

If  you want your changes to go to the mbr, then the above line must be changed
to /dev/hda, which is where the mbr is located.

The way you have it, it'ld used /dev/fd0, which is the floppy.


> timeout = 100
> prompt
>   message = /boot/message
>   default = dos
>   vga = normal
>   read-only
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> keytable=/boot/pc-dvorak-latin1.klt
> image = /boot/vmlinuz
>   label = mdk2
>   root = /dev/hdb11
> image = /boot/vmlinuz
>   label = mdk
>   root = /dev/hda6
> other = /dev/hda1
>   label = win
>   table=/dev/hda
> other = /dev/fd0
>   label = floppy
>   unsafe
>
> Kirk
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Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-15 Thread Mike Corbeil

Kirk McElhearn wrote:

> Actually, I figured this question would not get many answers on the
> newbie list...

You may be correct, but it would be useful to other newbies, because many or
all newbies will need deal with that kind of question.  On the other hand,
asking in the expert mailing list also isn't a crime.

I've only been using these mailing lists since this past week and kind of like
the idea, personally, that at least some more seasoned people pay some
attention to questions asked in the newbie list.  Maybe I have too much of a
bleeding heart for newbies.

Of course no one is obligated to do so, and it'ld make more emails to delete,
but I don't have a problem doing that.  If I see a question or thread I'm not
interested in or can't answer, then Delete is quickly clicked.

Some people, however, get annoyed by overwhelming amounts of email, but if
subjects are sufficiently clear, then more email is less of a problem or
nuissance.

Clear subjects, though, are therefore important.

You say LILO and I know what you mean.  If you said , then I wouldn't have
a clue, but might read just to find out what  is about.  If, however, you
say the name of an application which I have no experience with and no interest
in, then Delete, and zap it's gone.

This is one reason why I'm following both threads, however won't be for long if
I don't get this cdrom installed.  Definitely not a rich man, and I'm not
prepared to swap the drives.  Laziness is part of the reason, but it's mostly
because I'm not interested in dealing with the hassles swapping will bring, at
least not now.  The rest is merely a story I'm not going to bla blab about.

I apologize for being too harsh, though, even if you don't seem too bothered.
My global perspective "got the better" of me (I think that's the correct
expression).

mike






Re: [expert] A rescue CD

2000-04-15 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message - 
From: Marcos Dione <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] A rescue CD


> 
> uh... another question? is it true that a cd-booting bios should
> present a menu if there are several boot images? or a special bios doing
> so? or a program?
> 

Not required, but it may be useful in you situation. I f you are going to all the 
trouble to modify a generic rescue distro, you shoudl add utilities, scripts and 
backed up config files to the CD.

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Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk

2000-04-15 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message - 
From: Mage Grimau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk


> I have PM 4 that complains that my partition table is corrupt when I've
> installed either Linux (Mandrake) or Win98. It's quite happy with NT4 and
> Win95. PM5 has no problems with my Linux/98/NT4 setup, but I find I don't
> need it any more. Installing 98 then NT then linux made em all happy.
> 

I recently did a review of PM 5.0 for MaximumLinux Magazine (due out in issue #3). It 
does not have the problems I saw in 4.0 with large disks and includes some built-in 
error-fixing code that works pretty well (fixes minor probs, not major ones). Well 
worth the price - it not includes a Linux-only install (floppy creation) method for 
the "I won't have any MS products on my computer" crowd (the floppies use DR-DOS, not 
MS-DOS).


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Re: [expert] A rescue CD

2000-04-15 Thread Bug Hunter


  AFAIK, it is the boot image on the cdrom (which is the size of a floppy
disk) which will contain the code that allows you to select separate boot
images.  IE: lilo.


On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Marcos Dione wrote:

> 
>   uh... another question? is it true that a cd-booting bios should
> present a menu if there are several boot images? or a special bios doing
> so? or a program?
> 




Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-15 Thread Kirk McElhearn

On 15/04/00 0:28, Marcos Dione [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to 
have said:

>> Lastly, this is truly a newbie question and should be asked in the newbie
>> mailing list.
>
>   don't mean to start a flamewar here... but don't try to
>discriminate... I mean, I don't think he's a newbie if he's trying to boot
>another kernel. I think a newbie would not know what the hell is a
>kernel... anyway, he made the question, so, don't complain about he MUST
>ask it somewhere else.

Actually, I figured this question would not get many answers on the 
newbie list...

Kirk



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Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-15 Thread Kirk McElhearn

On 14/04/00 19:45, Stephen F. Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to 
have said:

>> OK, I have finally managed to get two distributions installed, and to get
>> lilo to work.  But when I try to tweek the lilo.conf, I get a message
>> that each of my choices is added, but then it says No images have been
>> defined.  It does not update my changes in the mbr.  What could I be
>> doing wrong?
>
>Show us your /etc/lilo.conf, man.

boot = /dev/fd0
timeout = 100
prompt
  message = /boot/message
  default = dos
  vga = normal
  read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
keytable=/boot/pc-dvorak-latin1.klt
image = /boot/vmlinuz
  label = mdk2
  root = /dev/hdb11
image = /boot/vmlinuz
  label = mdk
  root = /dev/hda6
other = /dev/hda1
  label = win
  table=/dev/hda
other = /dev/fd0
  label = floppy
  unsafe

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Re: [expert] It doesn't work - Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-15 Thread Kirk McElhearn

On 14/04/00 17:55, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to have said:

>It is a nuisance creating the lilo.conf file for several distributions
>because you have to mount all the /boot partitions so lilo can find the
>kernels.  I mount them in /etc/fstab as, for example, /mnt/redhatboot and
>then they are always there and not in the way.

I wondered if this was why I couldn't get Lilo to write the info to the 
boot sector correctly, but I mounted all the partitions, and it did not 
change anything.  I still get the message

No images have been defined.

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Re: [expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread Charles Curley

On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 01:15:11AM -0700, Sevatio Octavio wrote:
-> I would like to be able to view .png images on netscape.  Would any of you know 
where I can get the plug-in?

You don't need a plugin, at least for Netscape v 4.61+. Check out
http://burnallgifs.org/images/burnallgifs.png as a test sample.


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Re: [expert] IP Masquerading, The ABCs of

2000-04-15 Thread Charles Curley

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:21:55PM -0300, David Nordlund wrote:
->
->  Hi, I've got a system arrangement that goes something like this.
-> I have computer A(Mandrake 7) and computer B(Corel 1) connected to a hub.
-> Also connected to the hub is a cable modem, C. C is good friends with
-> A, but isn't really on speaking terms with B.
-> (The cable modem is set up for the MAC address in computer A)
->
->  Each computer has one ethernet card.  I can get A talking to B if
-> I ifconfig eth0 to a private network IP (192.168.0.1) but then it won't
-> talk to the cable.  B won't talk to A if A is set to the IP address that
-> the cable modem gives it(via DHCP).
->
->  Is it possible to get A & B talking to each other while A is on
-> the net?  If so, I assume I can masquarade B through A.  Or am I going to
-> have to get a second ethernet card for computer A?

Get a second ethernet card for A. B will be insecure as long as it is on
the same subnet as the cable modem. You should go as follows:

  /- Computer
  |
  |
cable modem --- MASQ box --- hub --- Computer
  |
  |
  \- Computer

All of this is laid out in detail in the masq HOW-TO, on the web site and
in the archives for the mail list.

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Re: [expert] Troubles With Partitions

2000-04-15 Thread Charles Curley

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 10:18:16PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-> Hi all.
-> 
->   Last week i bought a box with w98 preloaded. Without thinking
-> about it, i took my mdk 6.1 cd (i didn't burned a 7.0 cd yet) and i
-> repartitioned the HD to install linux in the PC. Obviously i deleted the
-> old w98 installation. i was trying to install wnt4.0 in a separate 
-> partition. i had NO any problems running linux. But whatever i do, i can't
-> even format correctly the fat partition. 
->  
->   i know that lilo can't boot partitions beggining in cylinder
-> greater that 1024. i made booteable the partition, i also tried hda1 to be
-> the fat partition. but when i format such partition (with dos) it
-> recognizes it as if its size would be 2Gb, althought it is 5Gb. After
-> reboot, dos does not find c: unit.

It is not that the boot partition has to begin at a cylinder less than
1024. Rather, the partition has to be entirely in cylinders less than
1024. You may want to create a small partition (15 MB is plenty) mounted
as /boot such that its last cylinder is 1023 or lower. Then create other
partitions as you need them.


Mess-DOS uses FAT-16, not FAT-32, so it is limited to a partition of 2
GB. NT 4 with no SPs also has this problem for FAT partitions. As far as I
know, there is no SP for NT 4 that supports FAT-32, so you may be out of
luck there.


What I would do: First build a small (30 MB) DOS 6.22 partition. Then an
extended partition large enough to hold all the NT partitions I
wanted. Then NT partitions as needed in the extended partition. Then
another extended partition for Linux, also subdivided as needed. Just make
sure that you create the boot partition first in the Linux extended
partition, and that its last cylinder is 1023 or lower.

Then install DOS on the DOS partition. Get that running. Then install NT
on the NT partitions. DO NOT USE NTFS. You will not be able to read NTFS
partitions from Linux except with an experimental driver, which may not be
reliable (I don't know, I haven't tried it lately). Installing NT will
modify the DOS partition and change its boot sequence to allow you to boot
to DOS or to the NT partition.

Then install Linux. Set LILO to boot either to the DOS partition or the
Linux partition. You boot to NT by booting to DOS at the LILO prompt, then
selecting NT in the NT boot loader menu.

I use the DOS partition for those few utilities that you have to have,
such as peripheral card configuration utilities, that only run on DOS.

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Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk

2000-04-15 Thread Sheldon Lee Wen


> You say that you don't need PM anylonger.  What about resizing used partitions?
[snip]

Well we certainly won't when 2.4 comes out. It includes a LVM (logical
volume manager)
that'll let you extend a "partition" (read logical volume) over multiple
disks 
if need be and will let you dynamically resize "partitions", LV's
(assuming the 
filesystem you put on it will allow it to be resized). etx2 has basic
support 
for this and I expect to see more as time goes on.

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Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk

2000-04-15 Thread Sheldon Lee Wen

> 4 should work, because 3.0 did.  Actually, I don't know if it worked for


PM3.0 did NOT have linux support. It recognized linux partitions for
what
they were but you could not manipulate linux ext2 partitions.

PM4.0 supposedly had linux ext2 support but I'm warning you as one who
has
tried it not to use it. It is VERY good at mangling your files. Just try
it
on a partition that holds a relatively large file. It's very risky at
best,
especially if you run VMWare, count on your vmdisk being totally hosed.

Sheldon

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Re: [expert] Re: g++ libraries

2000-04-15 Thread Alen Salamun

John Aldrich wrote:
> > [alien@hal9000 alien]$ rpm -qf /usr/include/g++-2/iostream.h
> > egcs-c++-1.1.2-24mdk
> >
> > [alien@hal9000 alien]$ rpm -qf /usr/include/g++-3/iostream.h
> > libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-3mdk
> >
> >
> I sit corrected. It appears that one is installed by
> "libstdc++" and the other by egcs.
> John
Hi!

Yes and there was no dependency with g++ to them AT ALL! And ofcourse
without the libstdc++ no g++ programs would compile...No matter if
egcs-c++ was installed :)

Bye, Alen
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[expert] 15$ Domain names and Free DNS

2000-04-15 Thread Orlando Lewis

Thanks guys for all the assistance with the posting for "Someone to point my
DNS"  Well after all was said and done this is the best deal that I found.

http://www.dotster.com/home   $15 domain names

www.myinternet.com Free DNS services




Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk

2000-04-15 Thread Mike Corbeil

Mage Grimau wrote:

> I have PM 4 that complains that my partition table is corrupt when I've
> installed either Linux (Mandrake) or Win98. It's quite happy with NT4 and
> Win95. PM5 has no problems with my Linux/98/NT4 setup, but I find I don't
> need it any more. Installing 98 then NT then linux made em all happy.
>

Snipped out all the old stuff.

You say that you don't need PM anylonger.  What about resizing used partitions?
On the other hand, am a fellow of very little financial means; therefore, my 9GB
system spread over 2GB and 7GB HDDs is more limiting than what many new systems
are coming factory shipped with these days.  I guess if someone has a lot of HDD
space, then configurations for various OSs can be made large enough that
resizing active partitions is never necessary.


mike





Re: [expert] How to make hd.img installation see second hdd?

2000-04-15 Thread Mike Corbeil

John Aldrich wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> >
> > I don't think we're using the same hd.img file, because the only hdd
> > partitions available with the hd.img I'm using are those on hda.  This might
> > only be a discrepancy created by the people at Planete Linux mag., because the
> > cdrom I have was obtained with their mag, in a cellophane enclosed package
> > (not from a Mandrake boxed set); and, if not by them, then by who ever created
> > the cdrom for them.
> >
> Mike:
> You might wanna just break down and get a "Cheapbytes" CD
> of Mandrake. It almost costs more to SHIP the blasted thing
> than it does for the CD itself! :-)
> Joh

Extremely tight budget at the moment and for a while to come, otherwise, I'ld just
go to a local store and purchase the package.  I merely purchased the mag to get
the cdrom, to take a look at Mdk (still want to upgrade my RH config, at least to
explore or investigate it), but tight budget and have RH 5.1,upgraded to 5.2.

Now, I'm working on the upgrade to 6.0, after which 6.1 and possibly 6.2 shouldn't
take long to do.  Currently blocked at start of 6.0, though, because of some
incompatibilities related to libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0 and GLIBC_2.1),
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, and it doesn't look like I'll have an answer quickly.
RedHat doesn't have mailing lists like this.  They have a bug reporting tool, but
this isn't a bug.

I've been hoping for someone to know how to get around this hd.img problem not
being able to see the second hdd.  I don't want to switch the drives around, to
avoid hassles that'll cause, but if I want to check out this version of Mandrake,
then it's looking like this is what I'll need to do.  I also don't have a backup
system; therefore, turf's a little trickier.

On the other hand, the maker of that cdrom (it's not from Mandrake from what I can
tell, because it's labeled "Planete Linux, CD1, Avril 2000, No 6") could modify the
hd.img file to  allow access of the second hdd, send an email message saying where
to download the hd.img file, and then I'ld grab it there.  I don't need another
cdrom; even if one way to resolve the problem, it's not necessary.  All I need is
an hd.img which will allow using the second hdd.

This didn't strike me as a major item, if the maker could just make a corrected
hd.img available for download.

I don't know what goes into creating the hd.img file and don't have the sources for
it, as far as I know.

I looked at the lilo man pages, hoping to find something that'ld explain "oh ya,
got a work around for ya, ...", but didn't find anything in the documentation
related to such a work around.  I was hoping someone here would know if this could
be done by simply configuring a lilo for the boot floppy, to allow visibility of
the second hdd for the installation program to see and provide access to.

On the other hand, even if this could be done or attempted with lilo, perhaps the
installation program portion on the boot floppy is hardcoded to only use hda.
Shouldn't be, but could be.  Based on that, I don't see how lilo could help with
this problem.

Anyway, the distribution is a single cdrom, doesn't look like it was created by
Mandrake, and this stupid hd.img problem is a pain in the backside.  And, I have no
idea why someone would want to create a hd.img which refuses to see other local
HDDs;  unless an hd.img can't be made to allow use of more than one hdd.

Input on these types of topics might be helpful here.  Even if it doesn't help
resolve my particular hd.img problem, the knowledge would be interesting.

mike







Re: [expert] Follow-up - Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-15 Thread Mike Corbeil

Andrew George wrote:

>

[snipped]

May have already been answered, but in case it hasn't ...

> >
> Heres a related question
> The following is part of my partition table
> Device  Mount Point Distribution
> /hdb5   /boot   Debian
> /hdb6   /   Debian
> /hdc6   /boot   Mandrake
> /hdc7   /   Mandrake
>

[snipped]

> For example...If I'm in Mandrake with dev/hdb5 mounted as /mnt/debboot
> should I specify the kernal location for Debian as /mnt/debboot/vmlinuz-2.0.38
> and Lilo will set the MBR to go to hdb5 (even though it will mount hdb5 as /boot
> when the kernal reads Debian's fstab)?

No.  When you'ld boot into Deb, lilo would look for the kernel image in
/mnt/debboot/ in Deb's / filesystem, because that's how you'ld have defined or
spec'd it in your lilo configuration.

If the kernel image for Deb is in /boot of that configuration, then you need to
specify the kernel image and location as this for lilo.

This means that either you need to copy your Deb kernel image to your Mandrake
/boot directory, or create a symlink to it in your Mdk /boot directory.  This sym
link would be

/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.38 -> /mnt/hdb5/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.38

or
/boot/vm... -> /mnt/hdb5/vm...

I think it'ld need to be /mnt/hdb5/boot/vm...  The boot part does not actually
exist in your /mnt path, except once /dev/hdb5 has been mounted.

/mnt/hdb5 would be mounted to /dev/hdb5, however I'm not sure if /dev/hdb5 actually
needs to be mounted.  This would be easy and quick to test, but if you don't want
to bother with trial and error, then simply mount /dev/hdb5 to /mnt/hdb5 (or vice
versa - in wording) before modifying your lilo conf.

If you don't  use /mnt/hdb5 for the name of this mount point, then I'ld suggest not
placing an entry for this mount in your fstab file.  For example, if you name it
instead /mnt/hdd, and you define the fstab entry as /dev/hdb5, then to mount
/mnt/hdd to any other /dev filesystem, you'ld need to either type out the entire
mount command, for mount to not use fstab, or you'ld need to modify fstab, when
ever you'ld want to mount a different filesystem to this mount  point.

If you name it /mnt/hdb5, then you can safely define the entry in fstab, for
/dev/hdb5.

That's why I used this for the mount point name.  Directories don't take up any
space worthy of mention, especially when it's only the hardlink of the directory;
therefore, you can create as many different mount points in /mnt as you want and
then define these in fstab, probably with the noauto option, to avoid needing to
type out the complete mount command each time, letting you mount this filesystem
for example by simply running

mount /mnt/hdb5

which is shorter than

   mount -vt ext2 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5

When using the former case, mount automatically looks in fstab for the definition
of the mount point.

F.e., I have two Linux configurations with different filesystems for /boot, /,
/usr, /usr/local, /usr/src, /home, /var, and /tmp.  One of these configs is the
primary Linux config and the other is test/build, relative to the primary config;
therefore, I created /mnt points named boot, root, usr, local, src, home, var and
tmp (besides also a:, c:, floppy, and cdrom).  Then I created fstab file entries
for each of these, because when ever I say, for example,

 mount /mnt/boot

I always want it mounted to the same partition.  If I ever want to access my other
single and small filesystem configuration, then I merely run mount typing out the
full mount command, mapping it to /mnt/root, albeit could also mount it /mnt/boot
or any other /mnt point which is not in use.

e.g.

mount -vt ext2 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/root

If I want to access /boot of that config, then it's through /mnt/root/boot.  If I
want to access the /var directory, then it's /mnt/root/var, or for /root, it's
/mnt/root/root.

Based on this, you'ld need to create the symlink in your Mdk /boot directory,
accessing the Deb /boot through /mnt/debroot/boot/...  Add the fstab entry and you
can mount by simply running

mount /mnt/hdb5

and

ls /mnt/hdb5/boot/vm*

would show all of the vm* files in the /boot of Deb.

This extra rap may be helpful in illustrating the use and flexibility of mount.

Hopefully that's not too long winded.

mike



> Trying to burn my boot floppies (and play with another distribution while I've
> got a spare Hard Drive)
>
> Andrew






Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk

2000-04-15 Thread Mage Grimau

I have PM 4 that complains that my partition table is corrupt when I've
installed either Linux (Mandrake) or Win98. It's quite happy with NT4 and
Win95. PM5 has no problems with my Linux/98/NT4 setup, but I find I don't
need it any more. Installing 98 then NT then linux made em all happy.

--- Mike Corbeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mage Grimau wrote:
> 
> > Which version of partition magic? 4 doesn't work right for 98 OR linux.
> 
> 4 should work, because 3.0 did.  Actually, I don't know if it worked for
> win98, but it did work for win95 and linux (ext2), as well as many other
> operating systems.  However, I spoke with a computer store clerk last
> december who said that althought 98 didn't exist when pm  3.0 came out, 3.0
> worked for his 98 system.  3.0 also worked for nt.
> 
> I don't think you should have any problems using 4 for 98 and I'ld even use
> 3.0 for 98.
> 
> Fire it up and read the documentation for 4.
> 
> Are you considering purchasing pm 4 or borrowing it, because 4 is not the
> current release, which is at least 5.0; unless that's been backed out.
> 
> You can also check PM's web site.  The company is or was named PowerQuest,
> but if it's changed, then do a search on "partition magic".  Should be easy
> to find.
> 
> 
> mike
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > --- lorne schachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've got an interesting problem.  1 have a 2-disk system, 12G and 4G
> > > split as follows:
> > >
> > > cdrive - 8G Windows98 and 4G Linux
> > > ddrive - 3G Windows98 and 1G Linux.
> > >
> > > I boot Windows directly and Linux from a floppy (because I'm past the
> > > 1024 sector boundary?).
> > > What I want to do is to shrink the Windows partition (I'm only using
> > > about 2G of it) and use the
> > > rest as more Linux partition.  I'm trying to run Partiton Magic to do
> > > this, but it keeps telling me
> > > that my partition table is bad.  It might be, but that's the only place
> > > where there's a problem
> > > since the two OS's run fine on their own.
> > >
> > > The partition table is as follows (for the first drive)
> > >
> > > partition 1 0 - 0 - 0 thru 1023-255-63
> > > partition 2 1023 - 0 - 0 thru 1023-255-63
> > >
> > > Clearly, this information is bad, but it won't let me change it to more
> > > reasonable values.
> > >
> > > Any one have any ideas - my next step is to get ahold of the Power
> Quest
> > > folks for their
> > > help.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Lorne
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lorne Schachter
> > > (732) 819-0460, (732)819-0460 (FAX)
> > > http://www.intact.com/~lorne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-15 Thread Mike Corbeil

Marcos Dione wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Mike Corbeil wrote:
>
> > Lastly, this is truly a newbie question and should be asked in the newbie
> > mailing list.
>
> don't mean to start a flamewar here... but don't try to
> discriminate... I mean, I don't think he's a newbie if he's trying to boot
> another kernel. I think a newbie would not know what the hell is a
> kernel... anyway, he made the question, so, don't complain about he MUST
> ask it somewhere else.

The crucial underlying point is that many newbies are using the newbie list
and in asking there, the answer will be made there, which means that many more
newbies will benefit.  I like thinking in global manners.  I've subscribed to
both lists and if a newbie question is more than  basic, then I suggest they
post to the expert list and therefore to subscribe to both.

The question was newbie, but t'was not a crime committed.  I'll refrain from
proving the newbie  part of the point and retract my harsh attitude.

mike


>
>
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Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk

2000-04-15 Thread Mike Corbeil

Pj wrote:

> I use Windows version Partition 5.0 to re-partition on the fly. Unless
> Windows partition is full, you should be able to reduce the size of FAT
> or FAT32 and increase the size of Ext2. If you want to contact me
> privately I can try to walk thru it step by step.

Do you mean Partition Magic 5.0?

PM is an easy tool to use and although it was recommended to always make
backups before resizing partitions, I used 3.0 many times for creating
partitions, and resizing live partitions, without making any backups, and
never had a problem.  3.0 was only really advantageous for resizing live
partitions, though.

However, I seem to recall hearing a couple or few months ago that PQ ported
PM to Linux; therefore, before purcashing, check out this aspect, for anyone
interested in investigating this tool.

mike


> Pj
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> lorne schachter wrote:
> >
> > I've got an interesting problem.  1 have a 2-disk system, 12G and 4G
> > split as follows:
> >
> > cdrive - 8G Windows98 and 4G Linux
> > ddrive - 3G Windows98 and 1G Linux.
> >
> > I boot Windows directly and Linux from a floppy (because I'm past the
> > 1024 sector boundary?).
> > What I want to do is to shrink the Windows partition (I'm only using
> > about 2G of it) and use the
> > rest as more Linux partition.  I'm trying to run Partiton Magic to do
> > this, but it keeps telling me
> > that my partition table is bad.  It might be, but that's the only place
> > where there's a problem
> > since the two OS's run fine on their own.
> >
> > The partition table is as follows (for the first drive)
> >
> > partition 1 0 - 0 - 0 thru 1023-255-63
> > partition 2 1023 - 0 - 0 thru 1023-255-63
> >
> > Clearly, this information is bad, but it won't let me change it to more
> > reasonable values.
> >
> > Any one have any ideas - my next step is to get ahold of the Power Quest
> > folks for their
> > help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lorne
> >
> > --
> > Lorne Schachter
> > (732) 819-0460, (732)819-0460 (FAX)
> > http://www.intact.com/~lorne






Re: [expert] reconfiguring disk

2000-04-15 Thread Mike Corbeil

Mage Grimau wrote:

> Which version of partition magic? 4 doesn't work right for 98 OR linux.

4 should work, because 3.0 did.  Actually, I don't know if it worked for
win98, but it did work for win95 and linux (ext2), as well as many other
operating systems.  However, I spoke with a computer store clerk last
december who said that althought 98 didn't exist when pm  3.0 came out, 3.0
worked for his 98 system.  3.0 also worked for nt.

I don't think you should have any problems using 4 for 98 and I'ld even use
3.0 for 98.

Fire it up and read the documentation for 4.

Are you considering purchasing pm 4 or borrowing it, because 4 is not the
current release, which is at least 5.0; unless that's been backed out.

You can also check PM's web site.  The company is or was named PowerQuest,
but if it's changed, then do a search on "partition magic".  Should be easy
to find.


mike


>
>
> --- lorne schachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've got an interesting problem.  1 have a 2-disk system, 12G and 4G
> > split as follows:
> >
> > cdrive - 8G Windows98 and 4G Linux
> > ddrive - 3G Windows98 and 1G Linux.
> >
> > I boot Windows directly and Linux from a floppy (because I'm past the
> > 1024 sector boundary?).
> > What I want to do is to shrink the Windows partition (I'm only using
> > about 2G of it) and use the
> > rest as more Linux partition.  I'm trying to run Partiton Magic to do
> > this, but it keeps telling me
> > that my partition table is bad.  It might be, but that's the only place
> > where there's a problem
> > since the two OS's run fine on their own.
> >
> > The partition table is as follows (for the first drive)
> >
> > partition 1 0 - 0 - 0 thru 1023-255-63
> > partition 2 1023 - 0 - 0 thru 1023-255-63
> >
> > Clearly, this information is bad, but it won't let me change it to more
> > reasonable values.
> >
> > Any one have any ideas - my next step is to get ahold of the Power Quest
> > folks for their
> > help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lorne
> >
> > --
> > Lorne Schachter
> > (732) 819-0460, (732)819-0460 (FAX)
> > http://www.intact.com/~lorne
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> =
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[expert] PNG Plugin for Netscape - In Search Of

2000-04-15 Thread Sevatio Octavio

I would like to be able to view .png images on netscape.  Would any of you know where 
I can get the plug-in?

Seve