Re: [expert] RPMDrake and remote packages
You could try opening a terminal window, log in as su and open gnorpm (while on the internet) it will update itself to include programs from certain sites as an alternate location for rpms. That is if I read it correctly :) Pretty cool I use gnorpm all the time in KDE this way. Bambi root wrote: I'm having the same problem with both KPackage and RPMDrake. When I try to configure each to look for RPMs from a remote location (ftp or http), neither program will do so. KPackage simply stops cold, and RPMDrake says it's updating, but nothing happens. I have a good connection to my ISP, and I used to be able to make this work with no problems. The only thing in my configuration that has changed is that I have set up my Mandrake system to also be a server for another machine to connect to the internet via IP-Masquerade. That works fine, and I can browse the internet and send/receive email with no problems on my Mandrake machine. Any ideas?? Thanks very much in advance. Michael -- Michael Abbott Associate Professor of Theater Wabash College
Re: [expert]
I don't know what caused it but I had this happen when I turned off my second drive. Check to make sure both drives are still being detected in your BIOS or that the correct C,H,S (cylenders, heads and sectors) are set. On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Anton Graham wrote: first letter of LILO "L" then a constant stream of 01 01 01 01 01 01 and it just
[expert] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How?
Dear friends: Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. Since 7.1 is on two CD rather than one CD, there is a pause during the download install that has completely stumped me (and probably others). I selected Custom, Normal for download and all of the categories (except for the extra "Documentation" category) for a total of 2.2 Gig or 764 packages. Each time (once from rpmfind a few days ago and today from metalab.unc.edu), I got precisely the same results: the download pauses on the file "kpppload", with nearly exactly half of the packages still waiting to be downloaded, and suddenly moves on to the next stage of install, namely, "Installing packages," "select your time zone,", "configure your printer," etc. etc. until you get the ironic message : Mandrake 7.1 successfully installed (which it most certainly is NOT, as you find out if you try to use it). Earlier tonight, a kind list member explained this mystery to us: the first CD stops precisely here at "kpppload" and asks you to insert the second CD. Well, that's fine and dandy if you have the CD's (I am still waiting for mine from LinuxLand). But what do you do if you are trying to download and install MDK 7.1 by FTP? I tried to download a minimal version (700 megs). Same problem. I then tried to download an even more minimal version without KDE, hoping to then return and upgrade and install KDE last. Again, same problem. In fact, it refused to let me install at all without installing KDE (where it once again stopped at precisely kpppload). In desperation, I decided to download Mandrake with KDE ONLY (300 Megs) and then build on that. No dice! Once again, with 3:20 to go and many packages left, it once again stopped at kpppload and proceeded to "finish" the rest of the installation process as if nothing had happened! So, how do the rest of you do it? What' the secret formula, folks? Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] RPMDrake and remote packages
- Original Message - From: "root" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: [expert] RPMDrake and remote packages I'm having the same problem with both KPackage and RPMDrake. When I try to configure each to look for RPMs from a remote location (ftp or http), neither program will do so. KPackage simply stops cold, and RPMDrake says it's updating, but nothing happens. I have a good connection to my ISP, and I used to be able to make this work with no problems. The only thing in my configuration that has changed is that I have set up my Mandrake system to also be a server for another machine to connect to the internet via IP-Masquerade. That works fine, and I can browse the internet and send/receive email with no problems on my Mandrake machine. Any ideas?? Thanks very much in advance. The command line app urpmi is working O.K. for me, unfortunately, trying to get the latest version of RpmDrake up running has broken X - shouldn't have forced it :o). I figure it must be a problem with IP-Masqueradeing , if you have checked the configuration options in kpackage rpmdrake - sorry, I don't know a thing about it - best advice I can give is check the HOWTO. Try starting them in konsole (without ) - then you can see any messages they generate. -WBD
Re: [expert] You guys with the huge swap partitions.
Swap is necessary when you need more memory than physical memory, so if your memory need is below the physical memory, you don't need swap. Windows XX needs swap because their VM system doesn't work well, and memory leaks very quickly. My notebook has 192M RAM but I have to reclaim memory using "WinSystem" now and then, or applications will be blank, slow, or corrupt. Friday, June 09, 2000, 9:44:00 AM, you wrote: J physical RAM that you don't have? This last time I installed, I didn't J give Linux any swap space, and it runs better now than I've ever seen J it. I also run Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 without any virtua J memory, and their performance has had a substantial gain lately. Just a J little advice from experience, and take it with a grain of salt. I J wouldn't drop the swap completely, unless you have 256MB or better. -- lark
[expert] Question about the Mandrake 7.1 ISO
Why the size of the Mandrake 7.1 ISO image is more small than the size of version 7.0? Thanks
[expert] japanese input method on 7.1 (fwd)
-- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The only thing I see here is two things: (Oskuro at /.) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 14:15:31 -0700 From: Bart Locanthi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: japanese input method on 7.1 Booting from my fresh 7.1 CD for the first time, I was pleased/surprised to see a Japanese installation. Woaa! So I snagged a Japanese-speaking friend and went through the install, and it all seems to work. But, I have yet to find a way of inputting Japanese. Usually there's some sort of phonetic Kana thing that turns sounds into ideograms. I assume there's something like that in MDK7.1, but I don't know where to look. Any suggestions?
Re: [expert] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How?
Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. Since 7.1 is on two CD rather than one CD, there is a pause during the download install that has completely stumped me (and probably others). I selected Custom, Normal for download and all of the categories (except for the extra "Documentation" category) for a total of 2.2 Gig or 764 packages. Each time (once from rpmfind a few days ago and today from metalab.unc.edu), I got precisely the same results: the download pauses on the file "kpppload", with nearly exactly half of the packages still waiting to be downloaded, and suddenly moves on to the next stage of install, namely, "Installing packages," "select your time zone,", "configure your printer," etc. etc. until you get the ironic message : Mandrake 7.1 successfully installed (which it most certainly is NOT, as you find out if you try to use it). ... With expert install from CD, it queries you as to which CDs you have: [1] install, [2] ext [3] applications [4] applications 2. Perhaps you should try expert install--if that is an option. Norm
Re: [expert] New h/drive
Iam buying a new h/drive for my machine.It has a Maxtor in at the moment but I need another drive...I know Ican read the h/ware howtos but they are not so up to date..Any info on recommended drives or ones to steer clear of other than Western Digital would be welcome... Hi.. Thanks to all who offered advice on the drive...A local vendor has offered me a Samsung and a Fujitsu to try outHe intends to start selling machines preloaded with linux and will let me have the drives to try out...I do have a couple of Samsung drives in this machine so hope they will be ok but there again it is not costing me anything !! Regarding Civileme's comments on Stampede...I had problems loading that on the boxes here but I took it to work and tried it out on a H/P box and it went ok first time...Did not get a chance to look inside the box and as I retired the next day will never find out the spec. Regards Ted Ted Wager..Definite Linux g3tpi.ampr.org 44.131.147.8
[expert] Bash Scripting
I'm interested in learning a little about bash scripting. In particular, I'd like to learn how to tell if the user logging on is logging in under X or from a command prompt. Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find this information? Thanks... -Chris
[expert] Mandrake 7.1 on Toshiba Portege Laptop - PCMCIA issues
Hi, I have installed Mandrake 7.1 (via FTP) to my laptop, however, bootup hangs when it reaches the Loading PCMCIA Modules part. If I disable PCMCIA from bootup, everything comes up fine. (minus my network card) Now, I have tried a few things. a) I booted up without any PCMCIA cards inserted, and it still hangs. b) It also hangs with a PCMCIA card in the laptop (3COM Megahertz 10/100) Has anyone else experianced something like this? What is a workaround? I need net access, obviously. Is there a newer version of PCMCIA-tools? Thanks -davidu
[expert] Oh Oh, Must have messed up somewhere!
Help! Not sure when it happened but think it was after a kernel recompile. Now when I try to mount /dev/hda1 I get the error: mount: /dev/hda1 has wrong major or minor number I have no clue as to what this means. Sure would be nice if there was some method of deciphoring different errors when you encounter them. Can anyone shed some light on this errror? Any help would be appreciated. -jon-
Re: [expert] Question about the Mandrake 7.1 ISO
Why the size of the Mandrake 7.1 ISO image is more small than the size of version 7.0? Thanks There are 2 iso files to download at ftp://ftp.linux.tucows.com/pub/ISO/Mandrake/ README 1 KbWed Jun 30 00:00:00 1999 hydrogen-ext.sparc.iso 360042 KbTue Jun 06 21:02:00 2000 hydrogen-inst.sparc.iso609472 KbTue Jun 06 21:39:00 2000 mandrake70-2.i486.iso 646234 KbThu Mar 23 11:31:00 2000 mandrake70-2.iso 656064 KbTue Feb 01 06:29:00 2000 mandrake70.alpha.iso 663004 KbMon Apr 03 12:37:00 2000 mandrake71-ext.alpha.iso 371838 KbWed Jun 07 04:15:00 2000 mandrake71-ext.iso 356556 KbTue May 30 08:48:00 2000 mandrake71-inst.alpha.iso 664466 KbWed Jun 07 06:53:00 2000 mandrake71-inst.iso664594 KbWed May 17 13:15:00 2000 The first is the install iso, and the second is for the extra programs. ftp://ftp.linux.tucows.com/pub/ISO/Mandrake/mandrake71-inst.iso ftp://ftp.linux.tucows.com/pub/ISO/Mandrake/mandrake71-ext.iso Thanks... Dan.
Re: [expert] New h/drive
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Ted Wager wrote: Iam buying a new h/drive for my machine.It has a Maxtor in at the moment but I need another drive...I know Ican read the h/ware howtos but they are not so up to date..Any info on recommended drives or ones to steer clear of other than Western Digital would be welcome... Hi.. Thanks to all who offered advice on the drive...A local vendor has offered me a Samsung and a Fujitsu to try out... FWIW my new Fujitsu is the quietest drive I have. I had one of their drives die a year or so a go and it was promptly replaced, hassle free, w/ 1 call to Fujitsu on an 800 #.
[expert] Multiple K rc's
Has anyone observed a problem with multiple rc's for Kde programs when run from Gnome? I just noticed that I have 700+ Kmailrc's plus others. Not a heavy load at 128k each but still a problem (Air). Is this also true in 7.1+ ? Visionary : John Hawk Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL Developer Latest Project: http://visionary-hawk.webjump.com/lnxzip.html
Re: [expert] ANNOUNCE: New public forum (and second round of discussions)
:~ :~We've got the Northpole, the Southpole, now we have the :~Linuxpole. :~As the former two always were a picture of extremly different :~points of view, Linuxpole may be the equivalent of the :~outstanding results which will emerge from the discussion of :~different ideas. Under assumption that you start using it ;- Else it will die and be forgotten after a week or two. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- The only thing I see here is two things: (Oskuro at /.)
Re: [expert] Bash Scripting
Necrotica wrote: I'm interested in learning a little about bash scripting. In particular, I'd like to learn how to tell if the user logging on is logging in under X or from a command prompt. Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find this information? Thanks... -Chris printenv from Konsole when you are logged in in graphics mode printenv from a console (logged in on runlevel 3) Check the settings of the DISPLAY variable Civileme
Re: [expert] Oh Oh, Must have messed up somewhere!
Jon Hewitt wrote: Help! Not sure when it happened but think it was after a kernel recompile. Now when I try to mount /dev/hda1 I get the error: mount: /dev/hda1 has wrong major or minor number I have no clue as to what this means. Sure would be nice if there was some method of deciphoring different errors when you encounter them. Can anyone shed some light on this errror? Any help would be appreciated. -jon- Well, I am assuming you have something other than linux native on that partition or you would not be running the system to tell us of this. And the kernel recompile might not have included support for the filesystem type there? (just a guess) How about posting output from cat /etc/fstab cat /etc/mtab cat /proc/filesystems dmesg Then we can probably help much better. Civileme
Re: [expert] Oh Oh, Must have messed up somewhere!
Oops, found it myself, apparently, and for what reason I don't know, the wrong modules directory was being searched and of course it did not exist, so the msdos file system module was not being used. I re-compiled the kernel with the msdos file sytem in the kernel rather than a module and I now have it back. Now to find out why the correct module directory was not being used. :-) -jon- On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, you wrote: Help! Not sure when it happened but think it was after a kernel recompile. Now when I try to mount /dev/hda1 I get the error: mount: /dev/hda1 has wrong major or minor number I have no clue as to what this means. Sure would be nice if there was some method of deciphoring different errors when you encounter them. Can anyone shed some light on this errror? Any help would be appreciated. -jon-
Re: [expert] Bash Scripting
Civileme wrote: Necrotica wrote: I'm interested in learning a little about bash scripting. In particular, I'd like to learn how to tell if the user logging on is logging in under X or from a command prompt. Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find this information? Thanks... -Chris printenv from Konsole when you are logged in in graphics mode printenv from a console (logged in on runlevel 3) Check the settings of the DISPLAY variable Civileme Ummm... Well under the console perhaps better to printenv | less (blush). That fills more than a screen! The point is DISPLAY has a value in graphics mode and does NOT exist in console So if [ $DISPLAY ] then # DISPLAY is set and is a nonzero length string so do GUI stuff elif [ -z $DISPLAY ] # do the console stuf here (length of string is zero) else # do any other stuff here fi Civileme
[expert] linuxpole
I went there for the first time since announce where I had submitted (I thought) a comment. It doesn't seem to be in the list. Was there a length limit or do I say "my bad"? Civileme
Re: [expert] Oh Oh, Must have messed up somewhere!
Now when I try to mount /dev/hda1 I get the error: mount: /dev/hda1 has wrong major or minor number I have no clue as to what this means. Sure would be nice if there was some method of deciphoring different errors when you encounter them. Well, I am assuming you have something other than linux native on that partition or you would not be running the system to tell us of this. And the kernel recompile might not have included support for the filesystem type there? (just a guess) Civileme I found the problem before your post came across, but thank you because this would have led me to the right fix.. -jon-
Re: [expert] NCR 53C*xx raid controller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a compaq proliant mk530 with the NCR 53C8XX pci raid controller and mandrake 7.1 will not recognize the disk attached to it. When trying to install I get the following error: no valid devices were found on which to create new file system. The system has redhat 6.2 installed so I know the controller/disks are fine. do you know what kernel module is it ? -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com Pasadena, CA USA --Chmouel
Re: [expert] Bash Scripting
Thanks for the help, guys. That was exactly what I was looking for! -Chris On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Civileme wrote: Civileme wrote: Necrotica wrote: I'm interested in learning a little about bash scripting. In particular, I'd like to learn how to tell if the user logging on is logging in under X or from a command prompt. Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find this information? Thanks... -Chris printenv from Konsole when you are logged in in graphics mode printenv from a console (logged in on runlevel 3) Check the settings of the DISPLAY variable Civileme Ummm... Well under the console perhaps better to printenv | less (blush). That fills more than a screen! The point is DISPLAY has a value in graphics mode and does NOT exist in console So if [ $DISPLAY ] then # DISPLAY is set and is a nonzero length string so do GUI stuff elif [ -z $DISPLAY ] # do the console stuf here (length of string is zero) else # do any other stuff here fi Civileme
Re: [expert] Bash Scripting
Necrotica wrote: I'm interested in learning a little about bash scripting. In particular, I'd like to learn how to tell if the user logging on is logging in under X or from a command prompt. Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find this information? Thanks... -Chris Just see if $DISPLAY is set. (Sorry: I only know csh; there it's $?DISPLAY, but probably not the same for bash.) -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] simple recursive delete from the command line?
thanks these man pages are just too damn cryptic and have no examples. Gavin on 6/9/00 7:36 PM, Tim Kubista wrote: on 7/29/39 10:22 PM, Norman Carver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I quickly delete a whole directory and everything it contains from the command line. #rm -r puts me in "do you really want to do this?" hell. re-alias rm so it isn't set to that stupid/annoying/etc. rm -i!!! Norm or just use rm -rf which force-deletes recursivly
[expert] C problem with math.h and gcc
To those who can help me: I am a beginning C programmer and compiler errors are to be expected, but this one is strange. The situation is that I was writing a program to do the quadratic formula for you. I originally wrote it in winders and compiled it with Borland C/C++ Builder 4.0 with no problems. Then I brought it over to my Linux machine and gcc returns this error: /tmp/ccv8wX5M.o: In function 'main': /tmp/ccv8wX5M.o(.text+0xc7): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccv8wX5M.o(.text+0x134): undefined reference to 'sqrt' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I got one of my CS friends to look at this, he has many years of C behind him. He tried compiling this simple program on 2 different flavors of UNIX, but it never worked, even simple programs with just one, easy reference to any, not just sqrt(), of the math.h calls (ie. sin etc.). Can someone tell me how in the world you use math.h on the *INX's? BTW, the varibles being sqrt'ed were tried as doubles and floats, but nothing worked. HELP, please. Thanks for your time. Payne Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[expert] ISDN Card - ASUSCOM
Hi. I have problem with card isdn, ASUSCOM, I have setup this card, perfectly but I insert the command in prompt : bash: isdn start Request Unknow driver y! I need help
RE: [expert] C problem with math.h and gcc
Thanks, that did the trick. Payne Try adding a -lm to the command you are using to compile and link. This tells the compiler to link in the math library. That is your problem. -Eric -Original Message- From: Payne Stanifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 6:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] C problem with math.h and gcc To those who can help me: I am a beginning C programmer and compiler errors are to be expected, but this one is strange. The situation is that I was writing a program to do the quadratic formula for you. I originally wrote it in winders and compiled it with Borland C/C++ Builder 4.0 with no problems. Then I brought it over to my Linux machine and gcc returns this error: /tmp/ccv8wX5M.o: In function 'main': /tmp/ccv8wX5M.o(.text+0xc7): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccv8wX5M.o(.text+0x134): undefined reference to 'sqrt' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I got one of my CS friends to look at this, he has many years of C behind him. He tried compiling this simple program on 2 different flavors of UNIX, but it never worked, even simple programs with just one, easy reference to any, not just sqrt(), of the math.h calls (ie. sin etc.). Can someone tell me how in the world you use math.h on the *INX's? BTW, the varibles being sqrt'ed were tried as doubles and floats, but nothing worked. HELP, please. Thanks for your time. Payne Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] MySQL
Don wrote: Loaded MySQLVersion 3.22.32 on MDK 7.0-2 and can run mysql very well as root, but am having trouble figuring out how to add other users and perm issions. I have the book by Paul DuBois and another by Yarger, Reese King (O'Reilly publisher) but there are no clear examples of how to do this. I have also gone to the MySQL site, and don't see any examples for adding users. If someone has an Idea, I would appreciate some pointers. Thanks, Don -- Look in the "manual.html" file in the /usr/doc/MySQL-3.22.32 directory. There should be a section on adding users and dealing with user privileges. Chris
Re: [expert] New h/drive
Civileme wrote: Seagate is good for certain chipsets, but I have observed signal reflections on i810, VIA MVP3, and MVP4, Intel 430 TX, and ALi Aladdin V under Pentium code. The problem is highly pronounced with TX chipsets, resulting in corrupt data that appears to write OK and is totally unreadable when the TX chipset is clocked at 75 MHz (as for a Cyrix processor). I did get "lost interrupt" errors on a very modern i810 with a Celeron 400 and a Barracuda 10.2G. Windows, FreeBSD, and such loaded fine, but Stampede, Enoch and Mandrake could not even install. (All were processor optimised) Mandrake 486 could run this with only occasional reports of disk errors. Civileme I've had good luck so far with my Celeron 466 with i810 chipset and a Quantum "Fireball" 10 gig. drive on Mandrake 7. vern
Re: [expert] simple recursive delete from the command line?
rm -rf On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Gavin Clark wrote: how do I quickly delete a whole directory and everything it contains from the command line. I can do it easily from kfm and other GUI file browsers. but #rmdir won't work because the dir isn't empty and #rm -r puts me in "do you really want to do this?" hell. thanks Gavin
RE: [expert] Upgrade to 7.1 breaks my PCI modem.
For my own edification, (since I've never heard of a USR PCI modem which does not require windows driver software) which model number of modem do you have ? Thanks. -JMS -Original Message- From: Jonathan Cromwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Upgrade to 7.1 breaks my PCI modem. Hi - I've got a USR internal PCI modem (the flavor that has all the necessary UART hardware). I've always configured it from rc.local with the following: setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0x2070 irq 11 uart 16550A Odd selection of port and irq, but that is what windows chose, and my linux box has been happy with it through RH6.0, RH6.1, and Mandrake 7.0. But now it is failing me and I'm at a loss - I can't talk to it at all under Mandrake 7.1. Have there been some subtle changes to setserial or the kernel that is breaking this? Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? Puzzled in California. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
RE: [expert] Upgrade to 7.1 breaks my PCI modem.
It's a 5610. Its been completely trouble free up til now... --- "Jose M. Sanchez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my own edification, (since I've never heard of a USR PCI modem which does not require windows driver software) which model number of modem do you have ? Thanks. -JMS -Original Message- From: Jonathan Cromwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Upgrade to 7.1 breaks my PCI modem. Hi - I've got a USR internal PCI modem (the flavor that has all the necessary UART hardware). I've always configured it from rc.local with the following: setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0x2070 irq 11 uart 16550A Odd selection of port and irq, but that is what windows chose, and my linux box has been happy with it through RH6.0, RH6.1, and Mandrake 7.0. But now it is failing me and I'm at a loss - I can't talk to it at all under Mandrake 7.1. Have there been some subtle changes to setserial or the kernel that is breaking this? Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? Puzzled in California. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
[expert] ASF files
Hello all. I friend of mine send me a file with the extension ASF. Its a short film. He said that it can be played iwtht he Windows media player. Unfortunatly I don't have windblows so I was wondering if there is any way I can play it in Linux or at least convert it to something I can play. Stephen Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]