Re: [expert] OT: w98 equiv to this list
Email me privately Doug - I have a fix... Cheers Doug McGarrett wrote: Does anyone here know of a Windows 98 equivalent to this mailing list? I need one question answered, but if someone here was willing to do so, I'd be very happy not to have to mess with a Windows list. Question: I'm converting from an all-SCSI system to a hybrid that will have an IDE hard drive. (I can't fight the prices any more!) Is there any way that I can convert what is presently on the SCSI drive to the new system, without reloading the OS and all the apps from scratch. I'd like not to have to reload WP, AutoCad, etc., especially since some are upgrades, and would require 2 or 3 earlier programs to be installed first, for no reason except to permit the upgrade to install. (Yes I know I can copy the _data_ files from WordPerfect, AutoCad, etc.) New machine will have SCSI--different card--but could have old card for a little while, or forever, for that matter. New machine will have "old" SCSI format, just enough to isolate cd-r from rest of system, for example. SCSI-2. Also to allow JAZ drives to plug in and work. Of course, the humongous drive will have Linux on it, right after W98, which _insists_ on being first. Any caveats there are welcome. Please copy replies to the list. I'm probably one of few but not alone with this kind of question. BTW, this is a great list. I don't read everything, since I have a life to live, but there is a whole heck of a lot of expertise here! TIA for any help I get. --doug Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] fg: no job control problem.
Hello all. I tryed to recompile several SRPMS on my (fresh installed) MDK 7.1 box but i got this strange error message: "fg: no job control". It happens with XFree86-4.0.1 (cooker) and other packages. Any ideas? Thanks! Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xserver connection refused
I'm not sure, but that sounds like a problem I had once. Are you sure that the problem is with the nfs daemon instead of xfs daemon?. What happened to me was that after a reboot X wasn't able to reboot again because the xfs couldn't create a lock or something like that. After some hours of head aching the problem was that I had not enought disk space, so try to se 'df' command and if your HD is exhausted clean some temporary files. Berni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now for the downside of reliability... Last time I rebooted my 7.0-2 system , I had something wrong (with permissions, I think?) which would not let me start my xserver even from root. I "fixed" it from the command line and , well, ..it's been so long I forgot what I did. Stupidly, I didn't REALLY fix the problem. Basically, at boot I get a connection refused (error 111) when trying to start the NFS demon, Later, I get an error 111 trying startx. Any clues? (I promise to FIX it this time). Thanks, Howard Howard Lightstone Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- La frase célebre para hoy es Every 1.5 years computers double in speed, then Windows slow them back. - | José Antonio Jiménez Berni | |C/ Músico Ziryab, 17 3-2 | | 14005 Córdoba | |Spain | | | |Phone: +34 957413730 | |GSM: +34 656255563 | |ICQ: 28939390 | | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Modem speed?
Is there any way to know the speed of my modem when I connect to the internet? (33'6k,56k) -- La frase célebre para hoy es lo que más me gusta de mí es mi infiníta modestia. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Modem speed?
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:00:41 +0200 "José Antonio Jiménez" wrote: Is there any way to know the speed of my modem when I connect to the internet? (33'6k,56k) For me I stick W2 in my dial command, eg ATW2DT0123456789 -- Steve - Cheltenham, UK - In love and light we are In darkness we are no less Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] 2.2.17 Kernel - Automount Feature Missing
Submitted 09-Sep-00 by Stephen Bosch: 2.2.17 isn't an official kernel patch (i.e., it's a Mandrake patch I'm afraid you are mistaken. 2.2.17 *is* official. -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSA key available upon request "Have you noticed there are no interesting people in heaven? Just a hint to the girls as to where they can find their salvation." -- Nietzche, "The Will to Power" Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] XF86Setup error
Yes, it uses the SVGA Server and it's installed..tryed to install all the servers so it wouldn't have a problem finding it, still no luck. On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote: That is very strange, esp. when you are not even using a Trident video card. Did you select the right X server for you ATI Rage Fury? C Nielsen wrote: Here is a weird one. I have just completed installing 7.1 ( I actually bought the entire packaged deal this time) and when I ran XF86Setup to fine tune some things, I get the message as follows; Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident TGUI9660 (generic) (line 2513). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident TGUI9680 (generic) (line 2519). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Cyber 9320 (generic) (line 2537). Segmentation fault (core dumped) Now I've had no trouble like this with 7.0 and it dosen't matter if I use Xconfigurator either, I get the same thing...any ideas? System AMD K6 3-400 128 ram SB Live sound ATI Rage Fury 32 meg Thanx Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- If you don't know, ask If you do know, tell Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] ReiserFS
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:21:09PM +0800, BillK wrote: Had to answer this one. As far as a new HD NOW, I did, around 4 yrs ago, but decided to keep using this one as well untill it really died, which it hasnt yet!! Its also been moved into different machines a number of times, with no change. The drive has been losing sectors at this rate for approx 4 yrs. Its an old seagate 2.1 gig on my daughters Four years! Wow. If I were still working at Maxtor, I'd offer to buy it from you to find out what is going on. That's wild. The industry standard reaction to loosing several sectors is: replace it. So it is possible that a lot of drives could have gone on for years like this one, but were replaced as a precaution. PC that gets used for WP browsing an a few games. Total lost sector count stabilizes around 300-400 or so after a few months. e2fsk or dos scandisk never pick up all the sectors at once, tho scandisk seems better initially - picks up around a hundred on install, e2fsck only gets a dozen or so on install. Eventually I will replace it, but seems like it will go on in this fashion for a few more years yet, so I am unwilling to spend at this time, raticularly if there is a satisfactory work around - its just anoying having to fsck it every so often! As to the mechanism of a failure of this type, I dont know as I have never seen a drive fail in this fashion and keep going for so long before. Well, I'd replace it just so I wouldn't have to bother with the hassle of replacing eaten files, etc. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
[expert] are you so insecure
To the cooker and expert list; Are you people so insecure that when I sign my imput and use the title that did not come easily, and one that I am proud of, that you have to try and belittle me for NO appartent reason. The Dr. means that I went through post graduate school with 3.8 average and the Ph.D. shows that I am not an MD. My disertation was in Theoryetical Physics. So give me a break here, you might learn something. -- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGP 6.5.8 mQGiBDm4v6YRBADUzSr+X7TuAvbaaa1u8wrpTNijkN0wqj8NJe9qHsHy2b7EEVHv s2PAk8iEnco7j51FK+ZbvrODqxkDeOLELvcpelxUzDGMw3Q7NBzA2vcE9UKgf2WM F4u/4fzyVyFQxPH+j8/s+566EAf/0yizUw/PixNnE05pVu2uNtqTWW8KxQCg/8y4 bAt/gfc+U1mtCdkd6QXOjjUD/1xOQFnq/C/vGdI2UUh4FRmnUy28joCuDThRqh4c erotkF4H3pzN9YyNw5qrEI+Eudh9HXRVWmDjz5ce8MGRMJ5xU8gJDyrgJqvJRCj0 eDOMCiBnaQGyhc1tK7rObUksjKYD3HBsmumBrh3oQdRA+Kiw069thZ8Kn37/MynP ZYsTA/498mGiWlozlHFpHSewzpHkJwEu9sHa5BFwiPpDpBTiphvMuBdEWU/zB/KX IvaUI9iKZD6np/lLW43JIoEysglskRLqosfRcyurmZt3OEY0RDT99YX+XkrybMtP /kPQRsedjUaKZ+yEKACTJfWScdL91AYQI0ZU3UgAKDUjuZiUyLQjbWljaGFlbHBv d2VsbDxnaG9zdGRvZ0Byb2NtYWlsLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAjm4v6YECwMBAgIZ AQAKCRDDQ0FFDy3BdljgAJwIYTG9C3egMF+jbCgVbCMKddxo+wCfcKtvqpue9PCw MeE9Hf5gyI+u5LK5Ag0EObi/rBAIAPZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+28W65 Szgg2gGnVqMU6Y9AVfPQB8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZSTz09 jdvOmeFXklnN/biudE/F/Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI61Brw v0YAWCvl9Ij9WE5J280gtJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySP S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Re [expert] pppd dying unexpectedly
"D. R. Evans" wrote: If I kill the script-based bit, then I never get to the PAP. BOTH are necessary, which does seem faintly ridiculous. But perhaps not without precedent; this is, after all, USWest. (Maybe this whole thing has something to do with the takeover, since they are now QWest. But it's probably just a coinicidence. It's no good asking them. They don't seem to have a clue about much at all. In the course of the last three months I have contacted tech support three times. They didn't solve a single one of the problems.) That's because all the really talented people are not working for peanuts in tech support anymore. -Stephen- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] 2.2.17 Kernel - Automount Feature Missing
Anton Graham wrote: Submitted 09-Sep-00 by Stephen Bosch: 2.2.17 isn't an official kernel patch (i.e., it's a Mandrake patch I'm afraid you are mistaken. 2.2.17 *is* official. As of when? I tried to find it two weeks ago, and it wasn't on ftp.kernel.org. -Stephen- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: Re [expert] pppd dying unexpectedly
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: "D. R. Evans" wrote: If I kill the script-based bit, then I never get to the PAP. BOTH are necessary, which does seem faintly ridiculous. But perhaps not without precedent; this is, after all, USWest. (Maybe this whole thing has something to do with the takeover, since they are now QWest. But it's probably just a coinicidence. It's no good asking them. They don't seem to have a clue about much at all. In the course of the last three months I have contacted tech support three times. They didn't solve a single one of the problems.) That's because all the really talented people are not working for peanuts in tech support anymore. -Stephen- There is a very good diagnostic-type page on setting up PPP at: http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/ There is/are serverl pages of step by step instructions on how to go about the process of figuring out just what the ISP expects to process during your login. It may be very useful in diagnosing just what is happening here. Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, you wrote: To the cooker and expert list; Are you people so insecure that when I sign my imput and use the title that did not come easily, and one that I am proud of, that you have to try and belittle me for NO appartent reason. The Dr. means that I went through post graduate school with 3.8 average and the Ph.D. shows that I am not an MD. My disertation was in Theoryetical Physics. So give me a break here, you might learn something. Hey, right with you on that one ... being a university drop-out, I can understand what you had to go through to EARN a Ph.D. You don't get those suckers from a breakfast cereal box! A belated well done and congrates from down under. Muzza. BTW My three immediate bosses all have Ph.D's. -- Mandrake Linux 7.1 Current Linux uptime: 12 days 11 hours 3 minutes. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:48:30PM -0400, Dr Michael Powell, Ph.D. wrote: To the cooker and expert list; Are you people so insecure that when I sign my imput and use the title that did not come easily, and one that I am proud of, that you have to try and belittle me for NO appartent reason. The Dr. means that I went through post graduate school with 3.8 average and the Ph.D. shows that I am not an MD. My disertation was in Theoryetical Physics. So give me a break here, you might learn something. Dr. Powell, if you got all the way to a fud without learning how to spell, punctuate, or capitalize, perhaps you shouldn't be so damned proud of it. Netiquette is derived from North American usage for the very simple reason that it was North Americans who invented the Internet, invented email, and invented lists and usenet. It is customary in North America, where, I believe, most of the list members reside, for non-MDs to use their credentials only in a professional context. Next time you present a paper on theoretical physics, feel free to use the Ph.D. (With the Ph.D. present, the Dr. is redundant, for reasons that are obvious if you know how to expand both abbreviations.) However, this list is very practical and about computers, not physics. In this context, your doctorate is irrelevant. Your use of your alphabet soup, however hard earned, came across here as pretentious. Linux users are pioneers, and, like all pioneers, they have little use for pomposity. Perhaps the list over-reacted in toasting you unmercifully, perhaps not. But you left yourself open for it, so don't complain that you got it. As for giving you a break, you ought to have given yourself a break by not raising the subject again. On the expert list (I cannot address the cooker list), the matter was over, done with, and forgotten until you posted this email. Apparently, you missed another lesson of undergraduate work, which is that if you wish to avoid hazing by upperclassmen, you don't offer them invitations to do it. While we are on the subject of etiquette, it is unnecessary to post your public key in your signature. Either a URL, or posting your key to a key server and providing its length and fingerprint, are sufficient. -- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGP 6.5.8 mQGiBDm4v6YRBADUzSr+X7TuAvbaaa1u8wrpTNijkN0wqj8NJe9qHsHy2b7EEVHv s2PAk8iEnco7j51FK+ZbvrODqxkDeOLELvcpelxUzDGMw3Q7NBzA2vcE9UKgf2WM -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, "Dr-PhD" == Dr Michael Powell, Ph.D. wrote: Dr-PhD To the cooker and expert list; Are you people so insecure Dr-PhD that when I sign my imput and use the title that did not come Dr-PhD easily, and one that I am proud of, that you have to try and Dr-PhD belittle me for NO appartent reason. The Dr. means that I went Dr-PhD through post graduate school with 3.8 average and the Ph.D. Dr-PhD shows that I am not an MD. My disertation was in Theoryetical Dr-PhD Physics. So give me a break here, you might learn something. I cannot believe I have seen this. However, since you decided to make this a public issue, I shall respond. Are *you* so insecure that your education did not provide you with proper grammar? How did you get through school? It is very apparent that your signature is both improper and just plain *wrong.* Any reference citation book, whether it be "The Chicago Manual of Style" or "Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association" states you use one or the other, not *both.* If you never used this throughout your advanced education, than common sense certainly should have. A proper signature line is as basic as verb tenses. It amazes me that you do not know this, and it appears that your peers do know it. I sure hope you had work oral instead of written work, as it seems you cannot identify your own proper signature block., as indicated above, you ego with your 3.8 average seems to get in the way. I find it humorous that you must tell this list what your deeds and grades were, as well as explaining "what the letters mean." We do not care, and since my wife and I both have 4.0 PhDs, I really do not think we can "learn something" from you. You assume too much, or perhaps think too little of the people on this group. BTW doc, your "theoryetical" is misspelled. At least learn the proper way to identify yourself in public writing. Gary (I do not need an ego booster) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
Are you people so insecure that when I sign my imput Speaking of insecure, you digitally sign your e-mails with a different address than you send with. :) -- Ben Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://defiance.dyndns.org/ / http://radio.scenespot.org/ Now playing on Defiance Radio: Enjoy The Silence by Depeche Mode Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
Benjamin Reed wrote: > Are you people so insecure that when I sign my imput Speaking of insecure, you digitally sign your e-mails with a different address than you send with. :) -- Ben Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://defiance.dyndns.org/ / http://radio.scenespot.org/ Now playing on Defiance Radio: Enjoy The Silence by Depeche Mode Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Gee, maybe I have more than "1" computer and use 2 different key codes, Duh! -- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGP 6.5.8 mQGiBDm4v6YRBADUzSr+X7TuAvbaaa1u8wrpTNijkN0wqj8NJe9qHsHy2b7EEVHv s2PAk8iEnco7j51FK+ZbvrODqxkDeOLELvcpelxUzDGMw3Q7NBzA2vcE9UKgf2WM F4u/4fzyVyFQxPH+j8/s+566EAf/0yizUw/PixNnE05pVu2uNtqTWW8KxQCg/8y4 bAt/gfc+U1mtCdkd6QXOjjUD/1xOQFnq/C/vGdI2UUh4FRmnUy28joCuDThRqh4c erotkF4H3pzN9YyNw5qrEI+Eudh9HXRVWmDjz5ce8MGRMJ5xU8gJDyrgJqvJRCj0 eDOMCiBnaQGyhc1tK7rObUksjKYD3HBsmumBrh3oQdRA+Kiw069thZ8Kn37/MynP ZYsTA/498mGiWlozlHFpHSewzpHkJwEu9sHa5BFwiPpDpBTiphvMuBdEWU/zB/KX IvaUI9iKZD6np/lLW43JIoEysglskRLqosfRcyurmZt3OEY0RDT99YX+XkrybMtP /kPQRsedjUaKZ+yEKACTJfWScdL91AYQI0ZU3UgAKDUjuZiUyLQjbWljaGFlbHBv d2VsbDxnaG9zdGRvZ0Byb2NtYWlsLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAjm4v6YECwMBAgIZ AQAKCRDDQ0FFDy3BdljgAJwIYTG9C3egMF+jbCgVbCMKddxo+wCfcKtvqpue9PCw MeE9Hf5gyI+u5LK5Ag0EObi/rBAIAPZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+28W65 Szgg2gGnVqMU6Y9AVfPQB8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZSTz09 jdvOmeFXklnN/biudE/F/Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI61Brw v0YAWCvl9Ij9WE5J280gtJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySP S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [expert] HTML and netiquet???
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Dr Michael Powell, Ph.D. wrote: Cher Monsieur; un ecrit: est une compagnie entertainmaent française, est que là où vous avez trouvé votre " netiquet". Son l'année 2000 si vous ne pouvez pas manipuler le HTML, ce monsieur, est un problème personnel. Jusque ma signature 2, j'emploie leur traînée 60 libre pour voir qui je souhaite utiliser. In my experience, most of us who do our work on platforms running some Unix variant use email readers like Elm or Pine, which do not handle bandwidth-wasting HTML well. It's no surprise that, given the recent popularity of Linux, many users turn to the built-in email functionality of Netscape, since the browser is part of most all distributions. However, it's quite easy to turn HTML off, and I can't really see any reason not to when posting to this list. As for this particular poster, though, I've added a filter to trash any message from a user whose "From:" string contains both "Dr" and "Ph.d.". /b -- Barry Marler Plant Genome Mapping Laboratory University of Georgia Rm 158, Riverbend Research Center 110 Riverbend Road Athens, GA 30602 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] glibc direct source compile, any suggesstions?
Yeah, I'm going to trya direct Source compile. Does anyone have any methods to go about doing this?, I hear stuff about being areful not to overwrite your header files or soemthing. A configure option I found that was supposedly useable was: ./configure --enable-add-ons=linuxthreads,crypt --prefix=/usr I don't know if it's wise to use /usr or not, but I essentially want to overwrite the glibc 2.1.2-10 version that I have with the 2.1.3-19 version I want to compile. Should that configure line, plus make, make check, and make install work fine for me, or are there other steps I need to do or take to get a successful compile w/o fubar'ing my entire system? --Kumba __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] 2.2.17 Kernel - Automount Feature Missing
It's less than a week old, I think - Original Message - From: "Stephen F. Bosch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [expert] 2.2.17 Kernel - Automount Feature Missing Anton Graham wrote: Submitted 09-Sep-00 by Stephen Bosch: 2.2.17 isn't an official kernel patch (i.e., it's a Mandrake patch I'm afraid you are mistaken. 2.2.17 *is* official. As of when? I tried to find it two weeks ago, and it wasn't on ftp.kernel.org. -Stephen- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] HTML and netiquet???
je ne parle pas francais Khun Phud pasa thai dai mai krap? laew pasa lao dai boh? ni whei shuo zhongwen ma? Maybe we can find a language to communicate on - Original Message - From: "Dr Michael Powell, Ph.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 7:39 PM Subject: [expert] HTML and "netiquet"??? Cher Monsieur; un ecrit: est une compagnie entertainmaent française, est que là où vous avez trouvé votre " netiquet". Son l'année 2000 si vous ne pouvez pas manipuler le HTML, ce monsieur, est un problème personnel. Jusque ma signature 2, j'emploie leur traînée 60 libre pour voir qui je souhaite utiliser. Dr Michael Powell Ph.D [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
dear sir, how offended you must have been to come across non north american usage in a north american mailing list.. oh wait, but it it isn't is it? that aside, i could have sworn that a chap called berners-lee had at least a minor role in creating the current internet paradigm but what would i know? - not being north american you see. a person can call themselves what they want, and if a falsehood isn't involved - who cares, and why? the 'internet' is a social phenomenon with a diversity that makes it a fitting companion alongside such other phenomena as the open source movement, as such it(we) are about as international as it is possible to get. as a computer user i am relatively speaking a know-nothing, and say little (though perhaps too soon sometimes) but learn quite a bit,; as a member of the social grouping that is this list (and it is a social grouping-the pheromonal vibe sometimes would give anyone a silver streak), i feel uncomfortable at standing (so to speak) at the back and not saying anything about how fellow members are sometimes treated. at the risk of prolonging this catalogue of haranguing and feverish denouncement i feel i must stand up for Dr. Michael Powell, Ph.D.'s right to identify himself as he wishes. bascule-it'sthenameofacharacterfromabookbutheythat'smeiguessthejigisup,ohnohowfoolishimustlookwhatwillnorthamericathinkofmenow? toCharles Curley wrote: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:48:30PM -0400, Dr Michael Powell, Ph.D. wrote: To the cooker and expert list; Are you people so insecure that when I sign my imput and use the title that did not come easily, and one that I am proud of, that you have to try and belittle me for NO appartent reason. The Dr. means that I went through post graduate school with 3.8 average and the Ph.D. shows that I am not an MD. My disertation was in Theoryetical Physics. So give me a break here, you might learn something. Dr. Powell, if you got all the way to a fud without learning how to spell, punctuate, or capitalize, perhaps you shouldn't be so damned proud of it. Netiquette is derived from North American usage for the very simple reason that it was North Americans who invented the Internet, invented email, and invented lists and usenet. It is customary in North America, where, I believe, most of the list members reside, for non-MDs to use their credentials only in a professional context. Next time you present a paper on theoretical physics, feel free to use the Ph.D. (With the Ph.D. present, the Dr. is redundant, for reasons that are obvious if you know how to expand both abbreviations.) However, this list is very practical and about computers, not physics. In this context, your doctorate is irrelevant. Your use of your alphabet soup, however hard earned, came across here as pretentious. Linux users are pioneers, and, like all pioneers, they have little use for pomposity. Perhaps the list over-reacted in toasting you unmercifully, perhaps not. But you left yourself open for it, so don't complain that you got it. As for giving you a break, you ought to have given yourself a break by not raising the subject again. On the expert list (I cannot address the cooker list), the matter was over, done with, and forgotten until you posted this email. Apparently, you missed another lesson of undergraduate work, which is that if you wish to avoid hazing by upperclassmen, you don't offer them invitations to do it. While we are on the subject of etiquette, it is unnecessary to post your public key in your signature. Either a URL, or posting your key to a key server and providing its length and fingerprint, are sufficient. -- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGP 6.5.8 mQGiBDm4v6YRBADUzSr+X7TuAvbaaa1u8wrpTNijkN0wqj8NJe9qHsHy2b7EEVHv s2PAk8iEnco7j51FK+ZbvrODqxkDeOLELvcpelxUzDGMw3Q7NBzA2vcE9UKgf2WM -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
Hey, Hey, Hey, everybody! Dr. Powell was responding to a thread found in the archives here: http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/msg23073.html which may not have been meant as particularly nasty, but certainly came across that way to me. In short, he took it personally and got mad. That just proves that he's human. Realize that it can be quite difficult in the hard sciences to get a PhD, and many people who have achieved that goal are proud of it, and in the physical sciences signing you mail as Dr. So And So, PhD is not uncommon. Twit filtering Dr. Powell would seem overkill at this point. I have had to twit several people on this list, however, and I must say after several years on various Linux/Unix mailing lists/newsgroups, this group has gotten nastier than the norm several times lately. Maybe we need a good emacs vs. vi thread to get it out of our systems grin. -burk (Disclaimer: after 13 years as a analytical/physical biochemist, I think unix system adminstration is much easier! It pays better too! ) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] IE5 for linux
welcome to the club! I'm suffering the same thing with Netscape 4.74 (even prior to upgrade). The same thing happened when I browse to a Flash-enabled website 'though I've installed Flash plug-in :/ Joe #186063 //-Original Message- //From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Thompson //Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 1:15 AM //To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //Subject: [expert] IE5 for linux // // //Someone posted a comment that IE5.5 was available for UNIX at //ftp.microsoft.com and that they were using it. After searching through //their ftp site I find IE5 for Solaris and HP-UX only, any one //have anything //on this. I hate to admit it but IE is much better than NS4xx or NS6 (at //least it doesn't lock my system while browsing java pages). //Using NS 4.74 at present.. //TIA, // -- //Ken Thompson WA7SYR //Electrocom Computer Services Payette, Idaho 83661 //1-888-642-7101 Sales - Services - Repair //Web: http://www,nwaa.com //E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //Registered Linux User #183936 //Driver Petition sig. # 00063954 // // Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] ALSA and MpegTV Problem - Please Help
Hello All, I just switched over from the crappy OpenSound commercial sound driver to the ALSA sounddriver for my Yamaha PCI soundcard. The only problem now is that MpegTV tells me "Cannot Play Audio: Broken Pipe". Have any of you had success with getting MpegTV to work with ALSA? Thanks, Brent Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
Can we Drop this Topic and discuss what the damn thing is here for? This is all personal conversation and unrelated to the topic. I am tired of my bandwidth being wasted by this trivial childish B$. Take it home to your personal email, I See enough of this at work, now please go away. Dan. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [expert] are you so insecure Hey, Hey, Hey, everybody! Dr. Powell was responding to a thread found in the archives here: http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/msg23073.html which may not have been meant as particularly nasty, but certainly came across that way to me. In short, he took it personally and got mad. That just proves that he's human. Realize that it can be quite difficult in the hard sciences to get a PhD, and many people who have achieved that goal are proud of it, and in the physical sciences signing you mail as Dr. So And So, PhD is not uncommon. Twit filtering Dr. Powell would seem overkill at this point. I have had to twit several people on this list, however, and I must say after several years on various Linux/Unix mailing lists/newsgroups, this group has gotten nastier than the norm several times lately. Maybe we need a good emacs vs. vi thread to get it out of our systems grin. -burk (Disclaimer: after 13 years as a analytical/physical biochemist, I think unix system adminstration is much easier! It pays better too! ) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] IE5 for linux
You won't see ie5 for linux there is for unix but no port for linux Gates hasent lost his mind yet!! I'm suffering the same thing with Netscape 4.74 (even prior to upgrade). The same thing happened when I browse to a Flash-enabled website 'though I've installed Flash plug-in :/ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
Hate to admit it? I think NS is crap. IE is much better than NS. If I could get IE on linux, I would. If you're looking for an alternative to NS though, download the latest milestone of Mozilla. And then download Galeon (http://galeon.sourceforge.net). Galeon uses Mozilla and it's pretty sweet. Regards, Tyler Longren - Original Message - From: "Ken Thompson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 10:15 AM Subject: [expert] IE5 for linux Someone posted a comment that IE5.5 was available for UNIX at ftp.microsoft.com and that they were using it. After searching through their ftp site I find IE5 for Solaris and HP-UX only, any one have anything on this. I hate to admit it but IE is much better than NS4xx or NS6 (at least it doesn't lock my system while browsing java pages). Using NS 4.74 at present.. TIA, -- Ken Thompson WA7SYR Electrocom Computer Services Payette, Idaho 83661 1-888-642-7101 Sales - Services - Repair Web: http://www,nwaa.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #183936 Driver Petition sig. # 00063954 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
I believe, if you are good enough at hacking the install, you may be able to pull off using IE5 in linux from the Solaris/HP-UX source. I don't know the diffrences, but if all it takes is getting a few libraries, and creating symlinks to the correct files, I don't see why it shouldn't work. Of course, it may turn out that I have no idea what I'm talking about. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Joe Tux" [EMAIL PROTECTED] welcome to the club! I'm suffering the same thing with Netscape 4.74 (even prior to upgrade). The same thing happened when I browse to a Flash-enabled website 'though I've installed Flash plug-in :/ Joe #186063 //-Original Message- //Someone posted a comment that IE5.5 was available for UNIX at //ftp.microsoft.com and that they were using it. After searching through //their ftp site I find IE5 for Solaris and HP-UX only, any one //have anything //on this. I hate to admit it but IE is much better than NS4xx or NS6 (at //least it doesn't lock my system while browsing java pages). //Using NS 4.74 at present.. //TIA, // -- //Ken Thompson WA7SYR __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
- Original Message - From: "Ralph" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: RE: [expert] IE5 for linux You won't see ie5 for linux there is for unix but no port for linux Gates hasent lost his mind yet!! Kind of useable under WINE, but I've never gotten it to work. Hoyt Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
Sorry to have to do this, but the demonstrative pomposity of those who are actually engaging this poor gentleman in a war over what should be treated as an oversight, typographic error, or linguistic inconsistency is simply becoming an issue ad nauseam. Further, his own belated response to the original attacks should have been, by your own suggestion, ignored. In defense of those of us who happen to be bi- or multi-lingual, the issue with cross linguistic grammar rules can occasionally become subject to confusion. As well, acceptable usage and rules, cross-culturally, oft differs greatly. I have done the following corrections to the most appropriate example of such hypocrisy, and it should, in no way, be received as an attack on the individual from which it came, but as a suggestion to all to keep ego in touch with reality for those who would criticise the mistakes of others. Prior to expecting the perfection of others, expect it of yourselves. In short, the behaviour of those who have responded unkindly to any post found in this list has been inacceptable. With this post, I am not excluded; however, in light of the issue, and in an attempt to bring civility to the future postings of this list, I have felt it necessary to do so. --Greg P.S. I have actually used spell-check, and double-proofed the grammar of my own post on this occasion. Normally, I would post without the bother of this activity for it demands time and extra effort: two things for which I have little patience when associated with non-professional e-mail. - Original Message - From: "Gary" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot believe I have seen this. However, since you decided to make this a public issue, I shall respond. Are *you* so insecure that your education did not provide you with proper grammar? How did you get through school? It is very apparent that your signature is both improper and just plain *wrong.* Any reference citation book, whether it be "The Chicago "Any reference citation..." [redundant, choose one or the other] Manual of Style" or "Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association" states you use one or the other, not *both.* If you never used this throughout your advanced education, than common sense certainly should have. A proper signature line is as basic as verb tenses. "than..." [correct spelling: then] "common sense certainly should have." [inappropriate personification. "common sense" does not "do" things] It amazes me that you do not know this, and it appears that your peers do know it. I sure hope you had work oral instead of written work, as it "work oral..." [word order] seems you cannot identify your own proper signature block., as indicated above, you ego with your 3.8 average seems to get in the way. I find it "block., as..." [punctuation, capitalisation: end sentence "block.", begin new: As..."] humorous that you must tell this list what your deeds and grades were, as well as explaining "what the letters mean." We do not care, and since my "care, and since..." [again, punctuation, capitalisation: end sentence "care.", begin new: "Since"] wife and I both have 4.0 PhDs, I really do not think we can "learn something" from you. You assume too much, or perhaps think too little of the people on this group. BTW doc, your "theoryetical" is misspelled. At least learn the proper way to identify yourself in public writing. Gary (I do not need an ego booster) __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
It turns out that I am downloading it at this very minute to find out. :) I am going to install on a seperate machine of course, just in case MS Boobytrapped it. :) Dan. - Original Message - From: Greg Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [expert] IE5 for linux I believe, if you are good enough at hacking the install, you may be able to pull off using IE5 in linux from the Solaris/HP-UX source. I don't know the diffrences, but if all it takes is getting a few libraries, and creating symlinks to the correct files, I don't see why it shouldn't work. Of course, it may turn out that I have no idea what I'm talking about. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Joe Tux" [EMAIL PROTECTED] welcome to the club! I'm suffering the same thing with Netscape 4.74 (even prior to upgrade). The same thing happened when I browse to a Flash-enabled website 'though I've installed Flash plug-in :/ Joe #186063 file://-Original Message- file://Someone posted a comment that IE5.5 was available for UNIX at file://ftp.microsoft.com and that they were using it. After searching through file://their ftp site I find IE5 for Solaris and HP-UX only, any one file://have anything file://on this. I hate to admit it but IE is much better than NS4xx or NS6 (at file://least it doesn't lock my system while browsing java pages). file://Using NS 4.74 at present.. file://TIA, // -- file://Ken Thompson WA7SYR __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] are you so insecure
Quick! Somebody mention Hitler so this thread can end officially by the rules of Usenet! Oop, I did it. -- Ben Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://defiance.dyndns.org/ / http://radio.scenespot.org/ Now playing on Defiance Radio: Spooky by New Order Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Pointer Problems
Here is a strange problem. I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on a new machine. And when I run KDE or Gnome, I get a white box about 1/2 by 1/2 inch on my 15 inch monitor screen. It seems I don't have the actual pointer icon. The upper left hand corner of the white square seems to function the same as the end of the pointer. I have now installed several distros and they all exhibit the same perplexing problem. It is getting scary, I am contemplating putting my W98 drive in the drive bay just to check the pointer (I told you it was getting scary). Could this be a mother board problem? (Gigabyte Duron board) Anyone out there know how I can get a pointer? -- Thanks, Larry Blodgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
Let us know how it goes! On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Daniel Baker wrote: It turns out that I am downloading it at this very minute to find out. :) I am going to install on a seperate machine of course, just in case MS Boobytrapped it. :) Dan. - Original Message - From: Greg Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [expert] IE5 for linux I believe, if you are good enough at hacking the install, you may be able to pull off using IE5 in linux from the Solaris/HP-UX source. I don't know the diffrences, but if all it takes is getting a few libraries, and creating symlinks to the correct files, I don't see why it shouldn't work. Of course, it may turn out that I have no idea what I'm talking about. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Joe Tux" [EMAIL PROTECTED] welcome to the club! I'm suffering the same thing with Netscape 4.74 (even prior to upgrade). The same thing happened when I browse to a Flash-enabled website 'though I've installed Flash plug-in :/ Joe #186063 file://-Original Message- file://Someone posted a comment that IE5.5 was available for UNIX at file://ftp.microsoft.com and that they were using it. After searching through file://their ftp site I find IE5 for Solaris and HP-UX only, any one file://have anything file://on this. I hate to admit it but IE is much better than NS4xx or NS6 (at file://least it doesn't lock my system while browsing java pages). file://Using NS 4.74 at present.. file://TIA, // -- file://Ken Thompson WA7SYR __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- **** Nick Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
- Original Message - From: "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [expert] IE5 for linux I believe, if you are good enough at hacking the install, you may be able to pull off using IE5 in linux from the Solaris/HP-UX source. I don't know the diffrences, but if all it takes is getting a few libraries, and creating symlinks to the correct files, I don't see why it shouldn't work. Of course, it may turn out that I have no idea what I'm talking about. IIRC, the Solaris port is a binary-only offering. I doubt that there are libraries available to run native Solaris apps on Linux. One could always run Solaris just to use IE, but it's easier to use a product like Win4Lin to accomplish essentially the same thing. That's what I do. Hoyt Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
Greg, I believe you're right. I've heard of people getting IE 5 for Unix to work before. I'm not sure if they were using WINE or not though. Tyler - Original Message - From: "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [expert] IE5 for linux I believe, if you are good enough at hacking the install, you may be able to pull off using IE5 in linux from the Solaris/HP-UX source. I don't know the diffrences, but if all it takes is getting a few libraries, and creating symlinks to the correct files, I don't see why it shouldn't work. Of course, it may turn out that I have no idea what I'm talking about. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Joe Tux" [EMAIL PROTECTED] welcome to the club! I'm suffering the same thing with Netscape 4.74 (even prior to upgrade). The same thing happened when I browse to a Flash-enabled website 'though I've installed Flash plug-in :/ Joe #186063 //-Original Message- //Someone posted a comment that IE5.5 was available for UNIX at //ftp.microsoft.com and that they were using it. After searching through //their ftp site I find IE5 for Solaris and HP-UX only, any one //have anything //on this. I hate to admit it but IE is much better than NS4xx or NS6 (at //least it doesn't lock my system while browsing java pages). //Using NS 4.74 at present.. //TIA, // -- //Ken Thompson WA7SYR __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
"just in case MS Boobytrapped it. :)" Paranoid! I like that! :-) --Greg It turns out that I am downloading it at this very minute to find out. :) I am going to install on a seperate machine of course, just in case MS Boobytrapped it. :) Dan. - Original Message - From: Greg Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe, if you are good enough at hacking the install, you may be able to pull off using IE5 in linux from the Solaris/HP-UX source. I don't know the diffrences, but if all it takes is getting a few libraries, and creating symlinks to the correct files, I don't see why it shouldn't work. Of course, it may turn out that I have no idea what I'm talking about. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Joe Tux" [EMAIL PROTECTED] welcome to the club! I'm suffering the same thing with Netscape 4.74 (even prior to upgrade). The same thing happened when I browse to a Flash-enabled website 'though I've installed Flash plug-in :/ Joe #186063 file://-Original Message- file://Someone posted a comment that IE5.5 was available for UNIX at file://ftp.microsoft.com and that they were using it. After searching through file://their ftp site I find IE5 for Solaris and HP-UX only, any one file://have anything file://on this. I hate to admit it but IE is much better than NS4xx or NS6 (at file://least it doesn't lock my system while browsing java pages). file://Using NS 4.74 at present.. file://TIA, // -- file://Ken Thompson WA7SYR __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif -- -- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
I believe, if you are good enough at hacking the install, you may be able to pull off using IE5 in linux from the Solaris/HP-UX source. I don't know the diffrences, but if all it takes is getting a few libraries, and creating symlinks to the correct files, I don't see why it shouldn't work. Of course, it may turn out that I have no idea what I'm talking about. You mean they give out IE5 source, and not just binaries for solaris and HPUX?? If not, it won't work in linux unless either they have solaris-x86 binaries (which you could get working with ibcs), or you're running linux on PA-RISC or SPARC, and you use the OS compatibility stuff. Or, you have an emulator, and I don't think there are any... The Sparc and HP-UX (PA-RISC) chip architectures are fundamentally different than Intel/AMD/etc. processors. Regardless of OS, binaries from other architectures won't work without emulation. -- Ben Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://defiance.dyndns.org/ / http://radio.scenespot.org/ Now playing on Defiance Radio: Burn by The Cure Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Upgrading to 7.1 from 6.0
I have a reasonably stable and useful install of Mandrake-Linux 6.0, but I'd like to move up to 7.1. However, I'm concerned it won't be a very easy thing to do, and I'd rather not have to do a mass-reinstall of all my software. What say ye, fellow list members? How bad is the upgrade process going to be for me? Is it worth the effort? Is it worth the effort even if I have to reinstall everything? Thanks Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
"just in case MS Boobytrapped it. :)" Paranoid! I like that! :-) Hey, where Micro$oft are concerned, one cannot be too careful... It would be a great example of FUD at work... #;-D Regards, Ozz. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] are you so insecure
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Thanks for the laugh. = Original Message From "Benjamin Reed" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Quick! Somebody mention Hitler so this thread can end officially by the rules of Usenet! Oop, I did it. -- Ben Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://defiance.dyndns.org/ / http://radio.scenespot.org/ Now playing on Defiance Radio: Spooky by New Order Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Upgrading to 7.1 from 6.0
Give it a shot. the worst part of it all is waiting for the packages to install. It took a LONG time to do on my box. Tyler - Original Message - From: "David Blair" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 1:47 PM Subject: [expert] Upgrading to 7.1 from 6.0 I have a reasonably stable and useful install of Mandrake-Linux 6.0, but I'd like to move up to 7.1. However, I'm concerned it won't be a very easy thing to do, and I'd rather not have to do a mass-reinstall of all my software. What say ye, fellow list members? How bad is the upgrade process going to be for me? Is it worth the effort? Is it worth the effort even if I have to reinstall everything? Thanks Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Pointer Problems
What kind of mouse is it? Is it not recognised correctly? Or, are you actually selecting the kind of mouse you have during install, and it turns out that linux really wants to drive it as something different? --Greg - Original Message - From: "Larry Blodgett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a strange problem. I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on a new machine. And when I run KDE or Gnome, I get a white box about 1/2 by 1/2 inch on my 15 inch monitor screen. It seems I don't have the actual pointer icon. The upper left hand corner of the white square seems to function the same as the end of the pointer. I have now installed several distros and they all exhibit the same perplexing problem. It is getting scary, I am contemplating putting my W98 drive in the drive bay just to check the pointer (I told you it was getting scary). Could this be a mother board problem? (Gigabyte Duron board) Anyone out there know how I can get a pointer? -- Thanks, Larry Blodgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Pointer Problems
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:03:29 -0400, Larry wrote: I have now installed several distros and they all exhibit the same perplexing problem. It is getting scary, I am contemplating putting my W98 drive in the drive bay just to check the pointer (I told you it was getting scary). -- Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:30:29 No Larry, you won't have to do anything that drastic 8-)...The pointer turning into a big white block is a common problem. that I have seen many times on the list. there is a howto written to fix this but not ever having the problem myself I did not look into it.. Try searching around on the mandrake user .org site for the howtoor search the mail list archives. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] DHCP server not responding?
Did he change his network card in the server and is the correct MAC address for it and is it entered properly? (normally I would expect each segment of the MAC address to be two digits.) Well, we're not certain why, but the Windows solution (reboot) fixed it. And the single-digit MAC address format is what was used in the dhcpd.conf man page, so that's what we used. :) -- Ben Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://defiance.dyndns.org/ / http://radio.scenespot.org/ Now playing on Defiance Radio: Violently Happy by Bjork Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] OT: w98 equiv to this list
You have 2 choices: 1:Symantec's Ghost's 6.x 2:Partition Magic 5.x Stefan Srdic wrote: Doug McGarrett wrote: Does anyone here know of a Windows 98 equivalent to this mailing list? I need one question answered, but if someone here was willing to do so, I'd be very happy not to have to mess with a Windows list. Question: I'm converting from an all-SCSI system to a hybrid that will have an IDE hard drive. (I can't fight the prices any more!) Is there any way that I can convert what is presently on the SCSI drive to the new system, without reloading the OS and all the apps from scratch. I'd like not to have to reload WP, AutoCad, etc., especially since some are upgrades, and would require 2 or 3 earlier programs to be installed first, for no reason except to permit the upgrade to install. (Yes I know I can copy the _data_ files from WordPerfect, AutoCad, etc.) New machine will have SCSI--different card--but could have old card for a little while, or forever, for that matter. New machine will have "old" SCSI format, just enough to isolate cd-r from rest of system, for example. SCSI-2. Also to allow JAZ drives to plug in and work. Of course, the humongous drive will have Linux on it, right after W98, which _insists_ on being first. Any caveats there are welcome. Please copy replies to the list. I'm probably one of few but not alone with this kind of question. BTW, this is a great list. I don't read everything, since I have a life to live, but there is a whole heck of a lot of expertise here! TIA for any help I get. --doug Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Goto www.tweakfiles.com and download Norton Ghost, or go directly to Synmatec''s web site and download the demo version of Norton Ghost. Norton Ghost will copy partitions from one computer to another, or even from one networked workstation to another. The only downfall of this program is that in order for it to work correctly the partitions that are being dealt with need to be approx. the same size. I can answer any other of your questions on the www.Speedcorp.net Windows forum!! Stef Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. begin:vcard n:Saidac;Adrian tel;home:216-381-5774 tel;work:440-646-3654 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Rockwell Automation;ITS adr:;;1 Allen Bradley Dr.;Cleveland;Ohio;44124;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Sr. System analyst fn:arsaidac end:vcard Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] pcmcaia-10/100 ethernet card
Hi, I bought a Kingmax ken0100-a-1.41 10/100 ethernet PCMCIA card. It had Linux compatible on the back of the box. To my surprise only been tested on RedHat 5.2 6.0 and SuSe and so after following all instructions the 'make' file has not worked once. I have recompiled the kernel to PCMCIA format, installed the latest PCMCIA package 'pcmcia-cs-3.1.20' and modified the 'make' file to the kernel version and PCMSRC path but every time it comes up with the error: . /usr/include/linux/coda.h:261: storage time of 'va_atime' isn't known /usr/include/linux/coda.h:262: storage time of 'va_atime' isn't known /usr/include/linux/coda.h:263: storage time of 'va_atime' isn't known /usr/include/linux/coda.h:563: storage time of 'attr' isn't known /usr/include/linux/fs.h:433: storage time of 'f_owner' isn't known /usr/include/linux/sched.h:288: storage time of 'times' isn't known make: *** [pcnet_cs.o] Error 1 I have also tried pre-compiled PCMCIA packages, as well but they are not working. The best I can get is the NE2000 Ethernet Compatible card to ping myself at good speed, other computers at terrible speed, but no one can ping me. Does anyone know what these time problems are and what I need to do to fix them. Thankyou, Simon Robertson Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] autofs and direct maps
Sorry I haven't replied sooner, I have been on leave for a while. I can't find a direct claim that "linux doesn't support direct maps", anywhere (although I seem to recall seeing it somewhere...). But I know I spent some time trying to make it work without success. And, the autofs documentation that comes with LM7.1 explicitly does NOT say anything at all about direct maps. Also, the man page for automount does say that the map format is a "subset of the Sun automounter map format" - ie. it does not do everything. Brian. -Original Message- From: Lou Baccari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:51 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] autofs and direct maps Brian, Thanks for the reply, it looks like you are the only one whos answered. Do you know if there is any documentation on the net to support your statement of 'linux doesn't support direct maps'? Thanks again for the help... Lou -Original Message- From: Schroeder, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:44 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] autofs and direct maps Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that autofs under linux doesn't support direct maps. Brian. -Original Message- From: Lou Baccari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 11:50 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] autofs and direct maps I'm trying to get autofs to map to the name of a direct map '/var/spool/mail', can the following files, auto.master and autro.direct work? These files are used successfully with Compaq's Tru64 Unix. Thanks, Lou. /etc/auto.master: - # mount-point mapname mount-options /- /etc/auto.direct-rw,soft,intr /corsair/etc/auto.corsair -rw,soft,intr /etc/auto.direct: - # key mount-options remote-location /var/spool/mail quabbin:/usr/spool/mail Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Pointer Problems
It's a problem with your video card, XFree86 is trying to display a cursor using hardware routines but something isn't going well. As root, edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and scroll down to the section named "Device" and you'll see a few lines that start with `#Option`. It's easy to find because there's a comment that says "uncomment this line if you see a big white block instead of a cursor!". You need to remove the # character from the line that says `#Option "sw_cursor"`, save, then restart X. This should bring your pointer back by using software drawing routines. It's probably a little bit slower than a hardware cursor but not greatly so. Tony On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Larry Blodgett pushed some tiny letters in this order: Here is a strange problem. I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on a new machine. And when I run KDE or Gnome, I get a white box about 1/2 by 1/2 inch on my 15 inch monitor screen. It seems I don't have the actual pointer icon. The upper left hand corner of the white square seems to function the same as the end of the pointer. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] IE5 for linux
Yup - that's all there is. I'm currently using IE5.5 and Outlook 2000 (on win2k) which don't have near the problems of Netscape. I would love to see a port to linux (any hackers out there?) Mike Someone posted a comment that IE5.5 was available for UNIX at ftp.microsoft.com and that they were using it. After searching through their ftp site I find IE5 for Solaris and HP-UX only, any one have anything on this. I hate to admit it but IE is much better than NS4xx or NS6 (at least it doesn't lock my system while browsing java pages). Using NS 4.74 at present.. TIA, -- Ken Thompson WA7SYR Electrocom Computer Services Payette, Idaho 83661 1-888-642-7101 Sales - Services - Repair Web: http://www,nwaa.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #183936 Driver Petition sig. # 00063954 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
I've used it under VMWare! hahaha, at a time when my windows partition wouldn't even boot! - Original Message - From: "Hoyt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [expert] IE5 for linux - Original Message - From: "Ralph" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: RE: [expert] IE5 for linux You won't see ie5 for linux there is for unix but no port for linux Gates hasent lost his mind yet!! Kind of useable under WINE, but I've never gotten it to work. Hoyt Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] well now i have a new problem and it sucks
after trying to find problems with my linux xf86config file and discovering a poor install such as very few if any utilitys could be found i figured i havent done much with the system and simply formatted my linux partition and reloaded linux, well i figured i had a successful install i managed to play with the various settings and even found a theme that was made with the laptop user in mind, well i decided i needed to figure out tar files because my computer needs a particular set of files or i cant run it too long due to the fan not running, so i tried to reboot, linux unloaded no problem. restarted the computer try to load windows well it decides it doesnt want to start and automatically throws me into the starting point again so i run scan disk and defrag in safemode and then reboot grub starts to load, next thing i know, i see grub)_ press tab for available options this disturbed me so i type linux command not found TYPED windows command not found so i press tab i get a set of options including boot ok typed boot linux starts to load and then it gets down to kernel panic! system stops ctrl alt del reboot the system i try my boot disk wich i made right after i installed linux, (fianlly after having linux for 3 weeks) it starts to load linux kernel panic! ok lets try to use the recover feature dont know what it was trying to do i guess load a modified version of linux well it crashed must be a bad boot disk ontop of something wrong with linux, aparently copied over when i made the boot disk so i get the install disk and use the recover feature it worked now i have [$recover@root$] ok lets try fdisk hda5 aparently is larger then it was partitioned for i finally using maximum linux magazine used the windows boot disk to restore the booting procedure but this means i cant boot into linux, should i try and install lilo or osxboot or something, but what about the kernel is that just totally jacked up, i need some serious help, and i shouldnt keep formatting and reinstalling linux thats killing my disk space given that every format kills sets of blocks In a message dated 10-Sep-00 18:36:15 Central Daylight Time, Mwinold writes: after trying to find problems with my linux xf86config file and discovering a poor install such as very few if any utilitys could be found i figured i havent done much with the system and simply formatted my linux partition and reloaded linux, well i figured i had a successful install i managed to play with the various settings and even found a theme that was made with the laptop user in mind, well i decided i needed to figure out tar files because my computer needs a particular set of files or i cant run it too long due to the fan not running, so i tried to reboot, linux unloaded no problem. restarted the computer try to load windows well it decides it doesnt want to start and automatically throws me into the starting point again so i run scan disk and defrag in safemode and then reboot grub starts to load, next thing i know, i see grub)_ press tab for available options this disturbed me so i type linux command not found TYPED windows command not found so i press tab i get a set of options including boot ok typed boot linux starts to load and then it gets down to kernel panic! system stops ctrl alt del reboot the system i try my boot disk wich i made right after i installed linux, (fianlly after having linux for 3 weeks) it starts to load linux kernel panic! ok lets try to use the recover feature dont know what it was trying to do i guess load a modified version of linux well it crashed must be a bad boot disk ontop of something wrong with linux, aparently copied over when i made the boot disk so i get the install disk and use the recover feature it worked now i have [$recover@root$] ok lets try fdisk hda5 aparently is larger then it was partitioned for i finally using maximum linux magazine used the windows boot disk to restore the booting procedure but this means i cant boot into linux, should i try and install lilo or osxboot or something, but what about the kernel is that just totally jacked up, i need some serious help, and i shouldnt keep formatting and reinstalling linux thats killing my disk space given that every format kills sets of blocks after trying to find problems with my linux xf86config file and discovering a poor install such as very few if any utilitys could be found i figured i havent done much with the system and simply formatted my linux partition and reloaded linux, well i figured i had a successful install i managed to play with the various settings and even found a theme that was made with the laptop user in mind, well i decided i needed to figure out tar files because my computer needs a particular set of files or i cant run it too long due to the fan not running, so i tried to reboot, linux unloaded no problem.
Re: [expert] IE5 for linux
i wonder if you can do that with a win modem??? wich would be awesome, less crap to buy Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Pointer Problems
You might try editing the X config file for the cursor under the mouse section or the video driver section : I can't remember, and I'm at a MS machine now. Anyway, there's a switch for this problem, although I've never encountered it. Dan - Original Message - From: "Oliver L. Plaine Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Pointer Problems On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:03:29 -0400, Larry wrote: I have now installed several distros and they all exhibit the same perplexing problem. It is getting scary, I am contemplating putting my W98 drive in the drive bay just to check the pointer (I told you it was getting scary). -- Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:30:29 No Larry, you won't have to do anything that drastic 8-)...The pointer turning into a big white block is a common problem. that I have seen many times on the list. there is a howto written to fix this but not ever having the problem myself I did not look into it.. Try searching around on the mandrake user .org site for the howtoor search the mail list archives. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] well now i have a new problem and it sucks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after trying to find problems with my linux xf86config file and discovering a poor install such as very few if any utilitys could be found i figured i havent done much with the system and simply formatted my linux partition and reloaded linux, well i figured i had a successful install i managed to play with the various settings and even found a theme that was made with the laptop user in mind, well i decided i needed to figure out tar files because my computer needs a particular set of files or i cant run it too long due to the fan not running, so i tried to reboot, linux unloaded no problem. restarted the computer try to load windows well it decides it doesnt want to start and automatically throws me into the starting point again so i run scan disk and defrag in safemode and then reboot grub starts to load, next thing i know, i see grub)_ press tab for available options this disturbed me so i type linux command not found TYPED windows command not found so i press tab i get a set of options including boot ok typed boot linux starts to load and then it gets down to kernel panic! system stops ctrl alt del reboot the system i try my boot disk wich i made right after i installed linux, (fianlly after having linux for 3 weeks) it starts to load linux kernel panic! ok lets try to use the recover feature dont know what it was trying to do i guess load a modified version of linux well it crashed must be a bad boot disk ontop of something wrong with linux, aparently copied over when i made the boot disk so i get the install disk and use the recover feature it worked now i have [$recover@root$] ok lets try fdisk hda5 aparently is larger then it was partitioned for i finally using maximum linux magazine used the windows boot disk to restore the booting procedure but this means i cant boot into linux, should i try and install lilo or osxboot or something, but what about the kernel is that just totally jacked up, i need some serious help, and i shouldnt keep formatting and reinstalling linux thats killing my disk space given that every format kills sets of blocks Subject: Fwd: well now i have a new problem and it sucks Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:10:57 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10-Sep-00 18:36:15 Central Daylight Time, Mwinold writes: after trying to find problems with my linux xf86config file and discovering a poor install such as very few if any utilitys could be found i figured i havent done much with the system and simply formatted my linux partition and reloaded linux, well i figured i had a successful install i managed to play with the various settings and even found a theme that was made with the laptop user in mind, well i decided i needed to figure out tar files because my computer needs a particular set of files or i cant run it too long due to the fan not running, so i tried to reboot, linux unloaded no problem. restarted the computer try to load windows well it decides it doesnt want to start and automatically throws me into the starting point again so i run scan disk and defrag in safemode and then reboot grub starts to load, next thing i know, i see grub)_ press tab for available options this disturbed me so i type linux command not found TYPED windows command not found so i press tab i get a set of options including boot ok typed boot linux starts to load and then it gets down to kernel panic! system stops ctrl alt del reboot the system i try my boot disk wich i made right after i installed linux, (fianlly after having linux for 3 weeks) it starts to load linux kernel panic! ok lets try to use the recover feature dont know what it was trying to do i guess load a modified version of linux well it crashed must be a bad boot disk ontop of something wrong with linux, aparently copied over when i made the boot disk so i get the install disk and use the recover feature it worked now i have [$recover@root$] ok lets try fdisk hda5 aparently is larger then it was partitioned for i finally using maximum linux magazine used the windows boot disk to restore the booting procedure but this means i cant boot into linux, should i try and install lilo or osxboot or something, but what about the kernel is that just totally jacked up, i need some serious help, and i shouldnt keep formatting and reinstalling linux thats killing my disk space given that every format kills sets of blocks Subject: well now i have a new problem and it sucks Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:36:15 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] after trying to find problems with my linux xf86config file and discovering a poor
Re: [expert] well now i have a new problem and it sucks
formatting eventually causes sectors to go bad any manufacturer of a hard drive will tell you that granted its not a whole lot maybe a few bytes worth but id like to find another way to resolve this problem with a corrupted kernel Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] are you so insecure
Dr-PhD To the cooker and expert list; Are you people so insecure [...] Troll. People, try to focus :-) -Gabi Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] [Fwd: canon bj200 printer woes Mandrake 7.2 beta]
On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, stuartsimpson wrote: I am currently having problems printing with my canon bj200. i've the same printer and it's now working fine, so take hope...the printer selection list that was unavailable on install can be reached through drakconfan icon on the desktop gets you to it, and you ought be in root to use it...a printer configuration option is available there, and the full list of printers from which to select appears for you... hope that helps frank - Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
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What is the last line of "ifup" in sbin. It got trimed on fsck somehow I know it dosent end with "ifup-p" I'm not on the list so repy direct please Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
