Re: [expert] Summary: How to move /usr to another partition

[Alexander Skwar]

So sprach Brian Caffrey am Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 06:16:29PM -0800:
> tar cf - * | tar xvf - -C /mnt/newusr

Well, but why did it not work for me the last time?  I had a problem with
hardlinks when doing tar.  I tried to copy /bin which contains a hardlink
from zcat to gzip - after the tar zcat was not existant at the new location
and during the tar I got an error message saying "invalid cross-device
hardlink" (or somesuch).  This did not happen in cp -a

> before and it's not fun.  The only problem with this
> that I have found is that all hard links will become
> there own file, hence more disk space usage.

Ah!  So tar *breaks* things, whereas cp will not.  Good to know.  Thanks.

Alexander Skwar
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[expert] DVD and the ISO9660 driver

[Mike MacCana]

DVD use the MicroUDF filesystem driver, which is part of Linux 2.2.16 
and 2.4 (or later).

Question: Is the MicroUDF driver part of the iso9660 driver? I know they 
are seperate filesystems, but I've been mounting DVDs with the iso9660 
driver and they always work perfectly.

I'm writing about Linux DVD support, so I need to be clear on this one. My 
research so far hasn't found anything concrete.

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Re: [expert] C++ ABI

[J . A . Magallon]

On 01.31 Brian Caffrey wrote:
> Does anyone know if GCC/G++ and the user libraries
> included with Mandrake 7.2 use the new C++ ABI?  I am
> looking for a distribution that is dropin ready for
> GCC 3.0.
> 

Nope. g++2.95 has one abi, 2.96 has one other (AFAIK), 
and sure gcc3.0 will have one other kind. What I am not
sure is that if you get a recent gcc cvs snapshot, that has the definitive
ABI for 3.0.
Look at http://gcc.gnu.org/news.html, news on Nov18 (new C++ abi)
And the look at http://gcc.gnu.org/, news on Jan15 (gcc freezed for 3.0 ?).
See also   http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2001-01/msg00871.html: no more
optimizations, no more features, just bug fixes AND compile speed
enhancements.

So as I said, perhaps a recent snapshot has both the syntax features (ie,
things supported or not supported and in what way) and abi for gcc 3.0.

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[expert] Offtopic: Any lyx users?

[Praedor Tempus]

I have a question for lyx users on the list.  I have downloaded some bst 
files for bibliography formatting in latex/lyx.  I have both the *.bst file 
and the accompanying *.sty file.  Where does one put the sty file (the style 
file)?  

I placed the bst files in the misc bst location along with plain, apalike, 
etc.  I don't know what to do with the style files.

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Re: [expert] Kmail, html links in email, konqueror

[Michael O'Henly]

With 2.1 Beta 1, I was finding that http links in Kmail were being opened by 
Quanta. This problem went away with Beta 2, however I did a complete 
reinstall of 7.2 and then upgraded to Beta 2.

M.

On Wednesday 31 January 2001 09:13, you wrote:
> I am running Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.1.  The following problem has existed
> for me since, I believe, KDE 2.0.1.
>
> This is driving me nuts.  I have my file associations properly setup so
> that html files are to be opened by konqueror.  Nevertheless and
> invariably, every time I click on a weblink in an email, instead of opening
> the website in konqueror properly, the system appears to download the link
> and then konqueror tries to open a nonexistent file on my system!  Every
> time.
>
> How does one force konqueror to actually open the link?  I do not want to
> download the link to my system, I want to go to the website.  Something is
> wrong here and has been wrong for a while in KDE.

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[expert] C++ ABI

[Brian Caffrey]

Does anyone know if GCC/G++ and the user libraries
included with Mandrake 7.2 use the new C++ ABI?  I am
looking for a distribution that is dropin ready for
GCC 3.0.

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Re: [expert] An observation on this Mandrake list

[Stephen Horton]

Agreed

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

> Yes... a zillion thanks to all the developers out there for lifting us 
> out of that costly hell-hole known as Microsoft.  Now we can spend more 
> time with our work rather than screw with that piece of junk Windows.
> 
> Seve
> 
> > We owe a huge debt of gratitude to open source developers the world over,
> > and for us blessed few to have chosen Mandrake-Linux, we owe the Mdk team 
> a
> > bloody big thank you.
> > Simon Cousins
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Free programming language

[Geoff Thorpe]

Hi there,

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> So sprach Laurent Duperval am Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 01:51:45PM -0500:
> > Tcl. It's under the BSD license meaning you can do pretty much what you want
> 
> Okay, so it is even more liberal.
> 
> > with it. Perl is under the Artistic license.
> 
> Perl is under both AFAIK.
> 
> Lemme rephrase my question: Are there any programming languages included
> that are under a less liberal license than the GPL, and that are only under
> this license?

Without wishing to push this into the kind of sensitive issue that gets
GNU puppies all fired up, what kind of license do you imagine a
programming language (implementation) could be under that would be less
liberal than GPL? Obviously, commercial/royalty-based implementations
aside (I doubt they would make it onto a Mandrake distribution) ... GPL is
pretty viral and harsh, and if it isn't telling you to do things you don't
want to do, I doubt very much you will have any problem with a BSD,
artistic, or other kind of license.

Anyway - what's perhaps more curious is why the license attached to a
programming language should matter? AFAIK, no implementations of a
programming language have any bearing over what license you are allowed to
distribute your code or programs with. And if its on the Mandrake CD,
there's a good chance you are allowed to use it and so is anyone else that
you ask to load up the same tools. Perhaps the biggest risk in all this is
that you may wish to distribute a self-contained package including any
required libraries and this may involve re-distributing libraries from
language implementations? If that's what you're asking - good question, I
look forward to seeing the answers myself. :-)

Cheers,
Geoff

Re: answers, maybe (was Re[2]: [expert] An observation on this Mandrake list)

[Matthew Micene]

On Wednesday 31 January 2001 10:57 am, you wrote:

> >  I need large file support.
>
> 20 meg to 500 meg range.  Above 500 meg excuses have a better chance
> of my accepting them ;-)

Large file support for the Ext2 file system is available I believe as a 
patch to the kernel.  This is to remove the 2GB file size limit inherent 
in the system.  I haven't used the patch so I can't point you to the right 
location, but it has been resolved and I am under the impression that the 
2.4 kernel series has this fix implemented.
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Re: [expert] An observation on this Mandrake list

[Ron Heron]

--- Sevatio Octavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes... a zillion thanks to all the developers out there for lifting us 
> out of that costly hell-hole known as Microsoft.  Now we can spend more 
> time with our work rather than screw with that piece of junk Windows.
> 
Well, I too thank the developers, and also thank the people who report
problems to the developers (kinda how it is supposed to work).  For those
who complain without properly reporting bugs and problems - poo on you!

Ron

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[expert] Kmail, html links in email, konqueror

[Praedor Tempus]

I am running Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.1.  The following problem has existed 
for me since, I believe, KDE 2.0.1.

This is driving me nuts.  I have my file associations properly setup so that 
html files are to be opened by konqueror.  Nevertheless and invariably, every 
time I click on a weblink in an email, instead of opening the website in 
konqueror properly, the system appears to download the link and then 
konqueror tries to open a nonexistent file on my system!  Every time.

How does one force konqueror to actually open the link?  I do not want to 
download the link to my system, I want to go to the website.  Something is 
wrong here and has been wrong for a while in KDE.
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Re: [expert] New distro?

[jarmo]

On Wednesday 31 January 2001 17:56, you wrote:
> Lo.
>
> Anybody has any idea when new distro is available? Quite many things have
> happened since 7.2 was released ( new XFree, kernel, ...), so I was
> wondering why isn't any announcements about new distro being worked at.
> Same about RedHat. Anybody has any information bout new releases coming in
> a radius of two months (any distros).
>
>
> Greetings,
>   Antti

AAARRGHH! -)

Hopefully somebody has tight brakes on!My best wish is,if distro has to be
released,mean new one...Best releasing moment at earliest is 
NEXT XMAS,not earlier,please.!

There's so much to learn and configure with 7.2,I'd not like to throw this
work done away...yet.

There is developement version available who ever want to test it.
Try it...don't hestitate win like "almost half'n product" into market.

7.2 IZGOOD...let's make it better.

jarmo

[expert] replacement use of inetd & GPIB useage

[richard]

Hi, two questions

1)   inetd appears not to be used with Mandrake , I use inetd.conf to 
redirect incoming telnet on port 23 to another application, if I start inetd 
incoming to port 23 still gets to the login prompt even when directed 
to an application called node..
So it looks like its trapped first...   where


2) this should be more interesting to someone

Has anyone been working with GPIB applications and Mandrake 7.2 ?
System I playing with is using linux drivers from Nat Insts. and the control 
package running on a virtual machine in NT4 .
Strangly enough the control software is wriitten by a Finnish company for 
win98 & NT, as they think linux will never catch on !!!

Mandrake seems to be the only distribution that the NI drivers and VMware
both compile without problems, and samba works first time---well done someone 


Thanks 
Richard

Re: [expert] Setting Max Thruput

[Pierre Fortin]

Bob PuffNLE wrote:
> 
> How can I impose a limit?  Like 256k up and downstreams?

You might want to check out http://snad.ncsl.nist.gov/itg/nistnet/

It's a tool for simulating slow (and flaky :) networks. 

HTH,
Pierre

answers, maybe (was Re[2]: [expert] An observation on this Mandrake list)

[Rusty Carruth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> As a coincidence, a couple of questions my clients asked me, should qualify:
> How to ssh to remote computer without giving password every single time?

Well, that's actually covered in the ssh man pages (or other docs, because
I've read it and done it a year ago).  Something to do with an empty password
or passphrase, disallowing connections from any but certain hosts, and having
the key in your .ssh dir.  SOmething like that.  I found the info either in
the docs with ssh or via dejanews search.  (I don't have access to that machine
any more, so don't remember exactly how it was done, sorry)

>  How to port-forward webserver?

I just 'posted' (not the right word for email lists, eh? ;-) a full
forwarding/masq ruleset (not using the nifty new 2.4 stuff, sorry) -
if its in the archives then you might look there.  (I also reference
a good howto)

The short answer is:

 ipchains -A input -v-i $extint -p tcp-d 0.0.0.0/0 oldport -j REDIRECT newport
 ipchains -A input -v-i $extint -p udp-d 0.0.0.0/0 oldport -j REDIRECT newport

Assuming I understand your question right!

>  I need large file support. 

Huh?  (not sure what you mean) anyway, sorry, cannot help there.  
(This coming from the guy who believes (very strongly) that anything 
that cannot handle a file of at least 20 megabytes with no complaints 
is broken, with no excuse.  Excuses MAY be considered for files in the 
20 meg to 500 meg range.  Above 500 meg excuses have a better chance 
of my accepting them ;-)

rc


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[expert] New distro?

[Antti Linno]

Lo.

Anybody has any idea when new distro is available? Quite many things have
happened since 7.2 was released ( new XFree, kernel, ...), so I was
wondering why isn't any announcements about new distro being worked at.
Same about RedHat. Anybody has any information bout new releases coming in
a radius of two months (any distros).


Greetings,
Antti

RE: [expert] Nautilus

[Bill Piety]

That was the 1st thing I tried. Won't accept the link saying one already
exists, yet there's nothing there. Zilch. I remember somewhere that there
can be symlink dependencies remaining even after a file's deleted, but not
how to clear them. Errata slips away sometimes. Tho when all is said & done
I'm trying to decide why I even want Nautilus in the 1st place. It's sort of
the challenge thing now - not the ultimate use. It seems way too featureless
for a file manager - but this from someone who absolutely can't do without
mc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Nautilus


Bill Piety wrote:
>
> I've just upgraded Nautilus to the latest build. Quite a number of hoops
> to jump thru. I had installed a Mozilla rpm the 1st go round. I
> subsequently installed the latest daily build (which is ver. 7, as
> needed by nautilus), leaving the rpm in place for Nautilus purposes. I
> then uninstalled the Mozilla rpm with this upgrade, hoping to avoid
> having to download the Eazel rpm over my 56K. Nautilus opens & all is
> fine as far as the file manager portion & connecting to Eazel services.
> URL's are not being read evidently cause nautilus is not finding the
> Mozilla library path, ie to libgtkembedmoz.so, located in
> /usr/local/mozilla instead of /usr/lib/mozilla.
>
> Is this just a matter of setting a Mozilla environment variable of some
> sort? Can I avoid dl'ing the older rpm? If it's possibly an environment
> issue, please suggest the proper syntax. Tks.

Make a symlink

Type

ln -s /usr/local/mozilla /usr/local/mozilla


Cheers
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[expert] Mandrake Corporate Server

[Bryant Morrison F47743C]

Has anyone tried the download version of Mandrake Corporate Server 1.0.1?
I read the overview on Mandrake's home page, and it looked very promising.
Unfortunately, setting up the network has been a problem.  First,  when
using netconf or linuxconf to specify the ip address, subnet mask, and DNS,
none of the settings are saved.  It comes with KDE installed by default and
a new set of Administration wizards as well as the normal DrakConf.  I ran
the network wizard, entered the ip, subnet, and DNS addresses.  It said,
networking was successfully complete, but running ifconfig from the console
only lists localhost (127.0.0.1).  "ifup eth0" has not results either.  Has
anyone else had these problems?  I have successfully setup Redhat and
Mandrake using netconf many times before, why is this Corporate Server so
problematic?

Machine is a Vectra XU/200
64 MB RAM
Intel Ether express 100MB NIC

Thanks in advance for any replies!





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Re: [expert] Setting Max Thruput

[Rusty Carruth]

"Bob Puff@NLE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Now, I need to put a limit on the bandwidth for private network
>  #2.  Users there are draining all my bandwidth. 
> 
> How can I impose a limit?  Like 256k up and downstreams?
> Networks are currently 10-base-T.

I've not tried QOS, but that's the first place I'd look.

The second idea I had a moment ago (go gently on me, it may
just be indigestion! ;-) was to do something stupid like
move the network you want to limit bandwidth on onto a
different machine, and route anything going outbound
to your ISP through a serial port connected to your
real gateway (route everything else via ethernet).

Or just do that on the current firewall/gw - hook a serial
wire from itself to itself and route the bad guys through
it.

Hey, I TOLD you it was sick!

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[expert] How to turn of reverse name lookup in inetd & xinetd

[dvoid]

is there anyway to turn of reverse name lookup in inetd & xinetd?
it is quiet anoying to wait until the dns lookup times out.


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RE: [expert] MandrakeUpdate and dependencies

[Charles A Edwards]

With 7.1 because of problems with the ver. that is included in the
installation you need to maually download and install the lastest
MandrakeUpdate from the 7.1 update directory. Use the version # to make your
selection because there were at least 2 updates for it in 7.1
It will then function properly requiring you to downloaded only the depends
that your selected app requires and not everything.

   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Laurent Duperval
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:01 AM
> To: Mandrake Expert List
> Subject: [expert] MandrakeUpdate and dependencies
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to do an update of my 7.1 system but I want to do
> it a few pieces
> at a time. I figured, let me start by upgrading
> MandkraeUpdate itself but
> when I do, it tries to bring in 49 (!) other ackages with it.
> Sort of doing
> all the rpm's by FTP, is there a better way to do this? I
> don't want to
> update 49 packages and have one of them fail and render my
> system useless.
>
> If I can't make MU work as I want it too, is there an order
> of updates that
> I should follow? SOmething like, update glibc first, then
> update this and
> that...
>
> T'anks,
>
> L
>
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Re: [expert] Instalation of Mandrake 7.2 on SCSI Drives using PM2122a/9x Controller

[Lars Nordin]

Only controllers have IO ports and IRQs - not the devices attached to them -
whether it is for SCSI or IDE.

This is how you would do it under Red Hat - I work with Red Hat systems
every day but my desktop is Mandrake so I've installed Red Hat systems many
more times than Mandrake: Pick expert mode install and when you are
specifying the CDROM, pick out the eata driver and check the "specific
module arguments".

The arguments will look like: eata=0x7410
this tells the driver to look for the controller at IO port 0x7410.

Reading over the information in /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/eata.c, it looks
like the driver automatically probes for DPT EISA controllers in the range
of 0x1C88 to 0xFC88 but if the IO port of your controller is different you
will have to specify it.

- Original Message -
From: "Ira M. Bargon III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Instalation of Mandrake 7.2 on SCSI Drives using
PM2122a/9x Controller


When you said that i need to pass the io port or the irq to the driver, did
you mean the io port or irq for the scsi controller or the cd-rom. Also what
would be the syntax for that. For instance what would i need to state in
order to give the io port of the device.


Thanks.

 Ira



-Original Message-
From:Lars Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:Wed, 31 Jan 2001 00:01:19 -0500
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Instalation of Mandrake 7.2 on SCSI Drives using
PM2122a/9x Controller


It sounds like you have a EISA DPT card -> www.dpt.com may not exist anymore
since adaptec bought them up (so you may have to go to www.adaptec.com).
I've used DPT SCSI controllers in the past and they worked fine (this was on
Unixware). It sounds like you have the correct driver EATA but you may have
to pass the IO port or IRQ to the driver. You should be able to hit some
hotkey at startup and get at the SCSI controller BIOS or download the DPT
configuration sw, either will show you how the card is  configured.

One last thing, on hardware RAID controllers like this one, configuring it
usually simple (you might want to download the manuals for the controller
you have); the controller hides the fact that it is a RAID and hence all
operating systems see the RAID as a single disk (albeit a very large one).

- Original Message -
From: "Ira M. Bargon III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:14 PM
Subject: [expert] Instalation of Mandrake 7.2 on SCSI Drives using
PM2122a/9x Controller


[snip]
Well I went with a Mandrake 7.2 install and couldnt get past step one. I
dont know what scsi driver to use, i tried them all and none of them worked.
Every drive on
this server is scsi. The logo on the controller says DPT CM400. On bootup it
lists as a pm2122a/9x.

I am taking the asummption that the two hardrives are some type of raid
array. I have never done an linux install on scsi so i am definately lost.
Is anyone familiar with the hardware i listed above. Do you know what
drivers i need to use to do the install. I was under the impression that i
need to use one of the EATA drivers. None of these work. If having the raid
configuration is going to be a pain, i will forget about it. Becasue i dont
really see my self doing any hard drive intensive work. This server would
just be for file storage, internet sharing, squid and samba. If anyone has
any information for where i could even start that would be great.

Thanks again.
   Ira





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Re: [expert] re:re: daft question

[Matthew Micene]

On Wednesday 31 January 2001 09:09 am, you wrote:
> and as ^M is a carriage return, theres one at the end of each line in
> theses files ... :-(
> Thanks SuSE !!! NOT !

Odd that there would be ^M carriage returns in a Unix created file, they 
are the Windows carriage return but be not dismayed.  Find your self a 
package called dos2unix.  A nifty tool I have been using for years 
(writing code in Watcom on a Win 3.1 box, kermiting the file to my AIX 
account for compiling :) and is designed to convert all the carriage 
returns to Unix standard.  Works like a charm.  Or if you have Tcl 
installed on the box, there is another slick way.  Read the file and write 
the file.  Tcl is cross platform and saves files in the "native" style, 
paths and carriage returns.  Very useful and simple.

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[expert] re:re: daft question

[richard]

Thanks Pascal. 
spotted a space inserted, but the real problem seems to be a control 
character (M) at the end of that line ,, and else where in the files
ie #!/bin/sh^M.
and as ^M is a carriage return, theres one at the end of each line in theses 
files ... :-(

Thanks SuSE !!! NOT !

regards & thanks 
Richard

[expert] MandrakeUpdate and dependencies

[Laurent Duperval]

Hi,

I'm trying to do an update of my 7.1 system but I want to do it a few pieces
at a time. I figured, let me start by upgrading MandkraeUpdate itself but
when I do, it tries to bring in 49 (!) other ackages with it. Sort of doing
all the rpm's by FTP, is there a better way to do this? I don't want to
update 49 packages and have one of them fail and render my system useless.

If I can't make MU work as I want it too, is there an order of updates that
I should follow? SOmething like, update glibc first, then update this and
that...

T'anks,

L

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RE: [expert] Instalation of Mandrake 7.2 on SCSI Drives using PM2122a/9x Controller

[John Hart]

American Megatrends Express 200(466) single channel raid works fine.  But
since you can get some fairly huge scsi drives nowadays, why bother with
raid at all?  I have a few 73.4gb drives running on one adaptec 2940, and
have had no problems whatsoever.  I agree with John Lemay...throw the raid
card out!

btw, luv the grue tagwas that Zork (showing my age)?

John Hart
Network Engineer
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843.529.0678 x417



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John J. LeMay Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Instalation of Mandrake 7.2 on SCSI Drives using
PM2122a/9x Controller


** Reply to message from "Ira M. Bargon III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
Tue,
30 Jan 2001 19:14:25 -0800


> The logo on the controller says DPT CM400

Sounds like an Adaptec RAID controller. From what I've seen, there are no
Linux
drivers for it. Rip it out, replace it with a 2940 or some other non-raid
SCSI
controller. If you want raid, take a look at the Mylex adapters. Make sure
you
know what SCSI you are running. By the description of the box, I'd say Wide
SCSI
or something from that "generation". Pull the model numbers from the drives
and
dounble check the vendor's site (unless they happen to be Micropolis or
another
long-gone SCSI vendor from the mid-90's heyday of SCSI).

John LeMay Jr.
Senior Enterprise Consultant
NJMC, LLC.


[tag] It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

Re: [expert] This will sound a real daft question ,BUT

[peter church]

Hi
I think mandrake is based on Redhat but dont quote me! There are
differences like the types of packages
included but thats about it. Im sure there are "Bigger Differences under the
hood" but the distros are all
based on the same basic kernel. Anyway...

It sounds like your path to the shell is set wrong in your script check this
by doing this

head fred (or what ever your script is)

look at the first line in the file

#!/bin/sh  or what ever

then use which to find the shell on your system

which sh

/usr/bin/sh

now ammend the line at the top of your script to solve the problem !

regards

Peter Church



richard wrote:

> noting the comments made about using this a as free support service , I'm
> probally going to get flamed for asking this one !
>
> starting executable script in Mandrake , are there any major differences
> between mandrake and redhat ?
> ie if a script is executable as root, and is shown so from a  "ls -l"
>  and if say the file was called "fred"  is there a reason I should
> get the response " bash:  ./fred :no such file or directory".
> I'm porting a system over from Suse 7.0 , there's nothing I can see in
> these scripts to cause this.
>
> Any one got a idea to point me in the right direction
>
> Thanks
> Richard

Re: [expert] This will sound a real daft question ,BUT

[Pascal Grossé]

On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 01:21:15PM +, richard wrote:
> noting the comments made about using this a as free support service , I'm 
> probally going to get flamed for asking this one !

At least not by me :-)

> 
> starting executable script in Mandrake , are there any major differences 
> between mandrake and redhat ?
> ie if a script is executable as root, and is shown so from a  "ls -l"
>  and if say the file was called "fred"  is there a reason I should 
> get the response " bash:  ./fred :no such file or directory".
> I'm porting a system over from Suse 7.0 , there's nothing I can see in 
> these scripts to cause this.
> 

Well, this does not mean the fred script is not executable. Look at the
little 'bash' at the beginning of the error message. It means it is an
bash error. And it most probably is the first line of your script which is
at fault : often scripts begin with lines like #!/bin/sh or
#!/usr/bin/perl -w ... If the file indicated here doesn't point to a valid
file in your system, you get this kind of errors. Check in that direction.

Hope this helps,

Pascal Grosse

[expert] This will sound a real daft question ,BUT

[richard]

noting the comments made about using this a as free support service , I'm 
probally going to get flamed for asking this one !

starting executable script in Mandrake , are there any major differences 
between mandrake and redhat ?
ie if a script is executable as root, and is shown so from a  "ls -l"
 and if say the file was called "fred"  is there a reason I should 
get the response " bash:  ./fred :no such file or directory".
I'm porting a system over from Suse 7.0 , there's nothing I can see in 
these scripts to cause this.

Any one got a idea to point me in the right direction

Thanks
Richard

RE: [expert] real server on 7.2

[Istvan Bereti]

Hi,

To be exact I found a newer version libstdc++.so.2.9 of the file. 
I tried to create a symbolic link but the problem seems to be more deep.
If I install the old library would it work?? Or better ideas?
THX,
Steve

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Istvan Bereti
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 1:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] real server on 7.2


Hi,

I wanted to install Real server on ML 7.2 but it's complaining that a file
is missing.
The file is libstdc++.so.2.8 , so I was looking for this file. I found out
that probably a new version.

Anybody how to solve the problem? It was working fine with LM:7.1 ..

Thanks,
Steve

[expert] real server on 7.2

[Istvan Bereti]

Hi,

I wanted to install Real server on ML 7.2 but it's complaining that a file
is missing.
The file is libstdc++.so.2.8 , so I was looking for this file. I found out
that probably a new version.

Anybody how to solve the problem? It was working fine with LM:7.1 ..

Thanks,
Steve

[expert] IPCHAINS - IMAP requests

[Joao Gazzoni]

Hello,

I would like to configure an IPCHAINS rule that allow (ACCEPT)
IMAP requests only if issued by the server (from PHP servers scripts).

Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,

João Paulo

Re: [expert] An observation on this Mandrake list

[ivar]

Just my personal opinions for what this list should be.
A bit of  personal history. Though I sell and consult a lot of systems with
Mandrake , I discovered this list only a few days ago. Most of my problems I
solved myself, with the help of Google search, some were answered in very
specific lists - excotic Sat-Internet card, DVD questions. When I encountered
the Large File Support problem, I searched the web, found a solution for Redhat.
After that I wanted to find a correct solution for Mandrake, i.e has somebody
compiled the libs for Mandrake. Of course, I found this list. So I see this list 
to people who provide questions and answers for more complex problems than "I
dont know who is Partition, how to setup kppp, how to install Staroffice". All
these items are well documented. From Expert list, I expect answers to
non-traditional problems.(not covered in the manual)
As a coincidence, a couple of questions my clients asked me, should qualify:
How to ssh to remote computer without giving password every single time? How to
port-forward webserver? I need large file support. I want my nVidia card to work
as well under linux than in W98 while playing X-files DVD
  

Regards,
Ivar

[expert] hdc, answers to my own questions

[ivar]

 * complaine about my system hanging while re-building glibs.
As it turned out, switching DMA off with hdparm cured the problem. So, now I''m
turning it off for very long compilations and then back on. Evidently, something
is buggy, but its mor for kernel-devel or asus support list.
* how to get Large File support working without rebuilding glibc (2.4 kernel)
The problem was in reiserfs. Some howto-s don't mention that you have to
re-mount reiserfs 3.5 partitions with -conv option (after that they don't work
with 2.2 kernels any more) to enable > 2Gb file support. 


Regards,
Ivar

[expert] X restarts 'lose' keyboard and mouse

[Nick Thompson]

Hi,

When X restarts (on logouts and if I ask from KDM) it occasionally
'loses' its connection with my mouse and keyboard. Now I can't login,
switch to a console or shutdown. My only option seems to be a system
reset (thank the developers for ReiserFS :) Any Ideas why that might be?

Maybe related: occasionally when X starts I get a 1280x1024 display, but
I only have 1152x864 (?) defined in the X configs (this is usually why I
restart X from kdm and end up with a locked keyboard)

Versions: LM7.2 (with default X install), ASUS P5A, ATI RageII PCI w/2MB
RAM (Mach64), Cordless Logitech wheel mouse.

Thanks,
Nick

Re: [expert] An observation on this Mandrake list

[J . A . Magallon]

On 01.31 Simon Cousins wrote:
> 
> What I'm seeing more and more, however, and what makes me a little sad and
> nostalgic for the pioneering days, is a general movement towards
> "complaining to the developers" 'cause something doesn't work to a user's
> full expectations.
> 

I don't think so. Apart from an small amount of people who see the list as
a free support place, I see the usual 'complaint' messages as: hey, this
does not work in my config, so check it out to clean up your marvelous
work.

Only in few cases you can see the hidden added phrase: 'and have it ready
for me this night, come on, the only thing you work for is to clean my bug'.

-- 
J.A. Magallon  $> cd pub
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  $> more beer

Linux werewolf 2.4.1-zcn #1 SMP Tue Jan 30 11:38:19 CET 2001 i686

Re: [expert] efax: errors on send via command-line

[mike]

This says the the answering modem won't transmit the fax responses. This may
be a 'blind' because your modem cannot handle it. You should check first by
trying to send to other fax numbers and then check the settings on your
modem - taking particular note of the modem type and whether it needs
special init strings to set it up as a class 2 fax modem.

hth
mike

- Original Message -
From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:48 PM
Subject: [expert] efax: errors on send via command-line


> Hello and thanks for looking at this.
>
> My friend and I have been having a really difficult time trying to
> setup efax to send out files. This is the error we are getting. Can
> anyone please offer some advice? We've been doing all kinds of study
> and homework, but none of it so far has helped us to finally send a
> fax.
>
> Any and all help will be sorely appreciated.
>
> Regards and thanks again,
>
> Mark
>
> [root@localhost mark]# efax -d /dev/cua1 -or -t 785-9100 Bibletime.001
> efax: Tue Jan 30 14:38:00 2001 efax v 0.9 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas
> efax: Tue Jan 30 14:38:00 2001 efax v 0.9 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas
> efax: 38:00 compiled Oct  3 2000 18:37:45
> efax: 38:00 opened /dev/cua1
> efax: 38:00 using Zoom V.90 Serial s052099g -I Z207 in class 1
> efax: 38:00 dialing 785-9100
> efax: 38:13 connected
> efax: 38:15 received CSI - answering ID
> efax: 38:15 remote ID ->  +0 000 000 
> efax: 38:15 received DIS - answering capabilities
> efax: 38:15 remote has no document(s) to send, and can receive
> efax: 38:15 local   196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:15 remote  196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:15 session 196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:16 sent TSI - caller ID
> efax: 38:16 sent DCS - session format
> efax: 38:25 Error: wrong response after waiting
> efax: 38:25 sent TCF - channel check of 2700 bytes
> efax: 38:25 local   196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:25 remote  196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:25 session 196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:25 local   196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:25 remote  196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:25 session 196lpi 14.4kbps 8.5"/215mm  any   1D- -  0ms
> efax: 38:25 Error: no command/response from remote
> efax: 38:26 sent DCN - disconnect
> efax: 38:28 failed -> Bibletime.001
> efax: 38:28 done, returning 3 (invalid modem response)
> [root@localhost mark]#
>
>

Re: [expert] IP forwarding, not masquerading

[richard]

On Wednesday 31 January 2001 06:31, you wrote:
> Consider this scenerio:
>
>


I'm sorta running , or getting running at the mo half of this type of system.
The private net declare as FRIENDNET and set the BITMASK.
As for the NIC's I found the one using dynamic addressing must be bought
first. I compiled the driver in the kernel for eth0 and the other card as a 
module...I still dont have my system fully running again yet, as I have some 
permanant links, which are doing very strange things-- like the primary link 
fails, but the secondary works..even though I known the primary to be active !
I've moved my system from Suse 7.0, which was working, over to Mandrake
as I'd really got fed up with the tutonic attitude of suseconfig and yast !
I also use Ip-ip tunneling beweent private net and remote private nets.

have fun 
Richard
>  -
>
> |  BOX 1   | |  BOX 2|
> |  eth1+> Private net #1 |   eth1+>
> | Private net #3
>
> Internet >--+eth0  |  192.168.1.x/---+eth0   | 
> 192.168.2.x 1.2.3.x |  eth2+--->-->--->-/|  
> eth2+> 1.2.3.2 IP (not masq!)
>
> |  |  Private net #2 |   |
>
>   10.0.0.x   -
>
> Two linux boxes, both running IP Masquerading.
> Incoming internet connection has a mess of IPs: 1.2.3.x in this example.
>
> Private net #1 goes through box 1, then out, no problem.
> Private net #3 goes through box 2, then box 1, then out, no problem.
>
> However, a user on box 2 wants one outside IP address, without any firewall
> or masquerading.  All ports, both directions.
>
> Eth0 on box 1 is set to respond to any IP address in its block.
> What I want to do is set this up such that if eth0 on box 1 receives a
> packet for address 1.2.3.2, it forwards it to eth2, say to address
> 10.0.0.2.  Then Box 2's eth0, (who's address is set to 10.0.0.1, but should
> also respond to multiple IPs), when it sees a packet for IP address
> 10.0.0.2, it forwards it to eth2, address 1.2.3.2 (the original).  All
> types of packets, all ports, the works... just like the user was connected
> directly to the internet.
>
> How do I do this??!
>
> Bob