Re: [expert] 8.0 hanging sporadically after image selection in LILO

[Jon Leech]

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:15:35PM -0700, Civileme wrote:
> On Saturday 12 May 2001 15:15, Jon Leech wrote:
> > The install went cleanly, but I'm having sporadic problems with
> > booting. Some of the time LILO 21.7 comes up with the graphical splash
> > screen, and selecting linux or linux-nonfb boots properly. Some of the
> > time LILO comes up in text mode, and selecting linux or linux-nonfb
> > hangs forever after printing 'Loading linux'. There is no apparent
> > pattern in when this happens.
[...]
> Let's see /etc/lilo.conf
>
> and fdisk -l /dev/hda

'fdisk -l /dev/hda' says:

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 623 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   * 1   261   20964516  FAT16
/dev/hda2   262   623   29077655  Extended
/dev/hda5   262   300313236   83  Linux
/dev/hda6   301   606   2457913+  83  Linux
/dev/hda7   607   623136521   82  Linux swap

/etc/lilo.conf contains:

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message-graphic
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda5
append=" quiet"
vga=788
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux-nonfb
root=/dev/hda5
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda5
append=" failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

FWIW, since the initial post, my laptop seems to have evolved to a
state (or, I am replicating sequences of events without realizing it,
that keep it in that state) where booting from HD will freeze after
'Loading linux' in *all* cases, not just sporadically; the boot floppy
seems to be the only way to get the machine up now.

Jon

Re: [expert] 2.2.19 kernel with Mandrake 8.0 -- ide woes

[Jason Shupe]

Thanks to Bodo for the solution...

I added this to lilo, and it boots!! 

append="hdd=none"

On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 01:15:31PM +0200, Bodo Huckestein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just saw your post on the mailing list archive. Did you solve your
> problem? Seems to be somewhat generic. I use 2.2.19 on 7.2 with an AMD
> Duron and VIA chipset. I have two HDs on ide0 and a CDROM and burner on
> ide1. Mine hangs a few lines further down after initializing the
> HDs. Doesn't happen with either hdc=none or hdd=none.
>
>   ...Bodo

>On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 01:40:19PM -0700, Jason Shupe wrote:
>> speaking of 2.2.19 w/ mandrake 8.0
>> 
>> I tried to use 2.2.19 with a k6-2 350 with VIA chipset and it stops
>> booting after probing the devices on the ide bus...
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
>> ide: Assuming 33Mhz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
>> VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
>> VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
>> VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
>> ide: Assuming 33Mhz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
>> VP_IDE: VIA vt82c596a (rev 06) IDE UDMA33 controller on pci00:07.1
>> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
>> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
>> hda: Maxtor 91303D6, ATA DISK drive
>> hdc: ST39140A, ATA DISK drive
>> hdd: CRD-8322B, ATAPI CDROM drive
>> 
>> then nothing more...

Re: [expert] lm_sensors and KT7 RAID

[Civileme]

On Monday 14 May 2001 21:13, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone succesfully used lm_sensors with KT7-RAID MB. I downloaded
> lm_sensors and i2c source an compiled it.
> Now I am not sure how to display the values in grellm app.
>
> Cheers
> Sridhar
Ummm the kernel was patched for it and there is a module to load during 
install.  And you can activate it.  All in 8.0.  Special install techniques 
may be required.

It is not done by default, because we have a need to protect IBM notebook 
users.  With IBM notebooks it can bring a factory-return-for-new-motherboard 
surprise.

Civileme

[expert] lm_sensors and KT7 RAID

[Sridhar Govindarajulu]

Hi,

Has anyone succesfully used lm_sensors with KT7-RAID MB. I downloaded
lm_sensors and i2c source an compiled it.
Now I am not sure how to display the values in grellm app.

Cheers
Sridhar

[expert] MetaPost in LM 8.0

[Lars Roland Kristiansen]

Hi has anybody MetaPost working using LM 8.0. 

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Re: [expert] 8.0 hanging sporadically after image selection in LILO

[Civileme]

On Saturday 12 May 2001 15:15, Jon Leech wrote:
> I just installed Mandrake 8.0 on a Gateway 9100XL laptop. This used
> existing partitioning (2.5 /dev/hda1, Win95; 330M /dev/hda5, /root; 2G
> /dev/hda6, /usr; 128M /dev/hda7, swap), but was a fresh install.
>
> The install went cleanly, but I'm having sporadic problems with
> booting. Some of the time LILO 21.7 comes up with the graphical splash
> screen, and selecting linux or linux-nonfb boots properly. Some of the
> time LILO comes up in text mode, and selecting linux or linux-nonfb
> hangs forever after printing 'Loading linux'. There is no apparent
> pattern in when this happens.
>
> Booting from floppy always seems to work. Is this a known problem? I
> hunted around google and Mandrake's website for a while, but didn't turn
> up anything that seemed relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon

Let's see /etc/lilo.conf

and fdisk -l /dev/hda

Civileme

[expert] New ABIT MOBO power up sequence fails????

[Bill&Virginia Hodges]

I installed a KT7A MOBO and it appears that when I
do a regular shutdown it may leave the
board in a state that when I try to power it up
it only turns the fans on for 3-4 seconds, then quits.

The power off sequence appears to work otherwise.

In this state I power on by holding the reboot button
simultaneously with the the power button, then releasing the
power button after about 5 seconds and the reboot button after 20-25
seconds.
This has only worked intermittently.

The one time that I did a hard power off without shutdown
it completed the power on sequence correctly???

The harddisk/kernel were prepared with a MOBO that did not have
the automatic powerup\powerdown features.

Does anybody have suggestions on how to fix this?

[expert] PHP

[Mike Hyde]

I need to add snmp to PHP but am not having any luck.  I tried installing
the source and make just the snmp part as a modual, but when I try to
install it I get an error.

Any ideas or place wear I can get a pre built one?

Thanks
Mike

Re: [expert] 2 different reiserfs ?

[Civileme]

On Saturday 12 May 2001 02:12, Bjarne Thomsen wrote:
> Civileme:
> > The reason you have difficulty now is that the version of
> > reiserfs supplied with 8.0 does NOT work with 2.2 kernel,
> > only the older version does.
>
> This is not the sort of thing you want to read when you
> have chosen mdk 7.2 and reiserfs in order to avoid very long
> fsck times on a box with 2 75 GB disks..
>
> There are actually TWO different Reiser file systems!

Actually more like 4.  The reiser with 7.2 is fine and will work with 8.0, 
but the Reiser in 8.0 will not work with 2.2 kernels.  In each of the two 
versions, there are mount options that affect the fundamental data storage 
pattern -- notail and default.  The difference is that notail is faster and 
much less storage efficient on lots of small files, and it also appears to be 
much more stable.  Default install is -notail in the mount for / and /boot 
and default for all others.  Once mounted one way and data is stored, a mount 
the other way hoses everything.  And even so, reiser is probably less 
complicated than XFS or JFS.

http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=754&lang=en

shows how to do a 2.2 kernel-based reiser notail for big disks

Civileme

>
>  -- Bjarne Thomsen
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [expert] LILO no longer works

[Jay DeKing]

Yes, I realize that formatting / won't affect the MBR (especially since
/ is on hdb), but when I installed Mandrake last time it did give me a
working GRUB setup. I'm not sure why the stand-alone GRUB and LILO
utilities can't seem to do this, but they obviously are not up to the
task for some reason.

My motherboard (and everything else in the machine) is only about 6
months old, and I've kept up-to-date on all BIOS and firmware for
everything I have, from the system board down to the CD drives, and all
devices in between.

The thing that really gets me is, the only thing that has changed is the
contents of hda. Wait a minute ... that's not entirely true; the
partition sizes have changed. hda1 was only 2GB in size before. The
partition table was trashed, which is what precipitated the
reformatting, and after a lot of mucking about I decided to fdisk the
whole drive. I made the whole 30GB a single partition, formatted it,
then fdisk'd it into two 15GB partitions and formatted them. Overkill?
Sounds like it, but it was apparently necessary. Formatting the
partitions individually didn't get the thing working. I've been working
on my own hardware for over 10 years, and have never been through such
an ordeal except in the bad old days of 20MB Seagate drives. (Harkening
back to a recent thread in this group --  the drive that gave me all of
this trouble is a Maxtor, six months old. My 30GB WD [hde] performed
valiantly and flawlessly though all of this.)

Jay

John Wolford wrote:
> 
> This probably won't work. Check what other's say about this (obviously) but i
> think that / is seperate from the MBR and so formatting / will do nothing for
> how your machine is(n't) booting. Although when you have exausted the possible,
> start probing the impossible.
> 
> What you need is some hardware/harddrive guru to tell you what kind of
> geometry-of-your-drive info you have to set up explicitly in
> LILO/GRUB/whatever. Have you posted all the information possible on your hd
> setup? Should you upgrade your motherboard bios? When you have exausted the
> possible.
> 
> dunno :-)
> j
> 
> --- Jay DeKing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry, that didn't work either. I tried it with both LILO and GRUB, with
> > the same results as always.
> >
> > The next step, I guess, is to boot up with the install CD and do an
> > install/update. Since I have most of the programs and data on partitions
> > separate from "/", I shouldn't lose too much stuff when it makes me
> > format "/" itself.

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Re: [expert] Adding users to groups takes effect when?

[Stephen Boulet]

Yes. I logged out and back in again, and the changes seem to have taken 
effect.

Too bad that there's not a command you can issue; but at least you don't have 
to reboot.

--- Stephen

On Monday 14 May 2001 03:08 am, you wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2001 06:39, you wrote:
> > Under LM8, /usr/src belongs to the group adm under medium security. I
> > added myself to the group adm (via webmin) but still get permission
> > denied when trying to do a ls /usr/src.
> >
> > How do I make adding myself to a new group take effect?
> >
> > -- Stephen
>
> Usually it takes until your next login

[expert] aceleration slow

[Garini Juan Pablo]

Hi, I have an ATI Rage fury maxx video card and  the aceleration in Open GL
es too slow, I can't play tuxracer or quake3.
The mesa are ok, the dri is ok and the x server is ok.
what's sap?!
please help me!

Re: [expert] Setting umask on Nautilus, Konqueror

[Dave Del Signore]

Hi John,

Thanks for the reply.  Here is exactly what happens when I try starting 
the filemanagers from a terminal window, as you suggested:

Under KDE,

[dave@aslan  tmp]$ umask
007

[dave@aslan  tmp]$ mkdir d1

[dave@aslan  tmp]$ konqueror
[change to testing directory]
[Create New -> Directory "d2"]

[dave@aslan  tmp]$ nautilus
[change to testing directory]
[New Folder "d3"]

$ ls -l
drwxrwx---2 davedave  48 May 14 11:45 d1/
drwxr-xr-x2 davedave  48 May 14 11:47 d2/
drwxrwx---2 davedave  48 May 14 11:48 d3/

Konqueror did not set perms correctly, while nautilus did.  Now, under 
Gnome:


[dave@aslan  tmp]$ umask
007

[dave@aslan  tmp]$ mkdir d1

[dave@aslan  tmp]$ konqueror
[change to testing directory]
[Create New -> Directory "d2"]

[dave@aslan  tmp]$ nautilus
[change to testing directory]
[New Folder "d3"]

$ ls -l
drwxrwx---2 davedave  48 May 14 11:45 d1/
drwxrwx---2 davedave  48 May 14 11:47 d2/
drwxr-xr-x2 davedave  48 May 14 11:48 d3/

Now the roles are reversed; konqueror sets perms correctly while 
nautilus does not.

This got me to thinking in a different direction; I added a umask 
command to /etc/X11/Xsession, which is the script used to setup the 
user's session after login using gdm.  This fixed the problem; the umask 
used by the filemanager corresponding to the running desktop was as set 
in Xsession.

This seems to mean that when the filemanager is running in its native 
desktop environment, it uses the umask present when the desktop is 
started, even if the particular instance of the filemanager is started 
from a command line with a different umask.  In foreign desktop 
environments, the umask is taken from the process that started the 
filemanager.

While hacking the Xsession script works for me and anyone else who is 
willing to modify a system script, it really seems suboptimal.  Isn't 
there another way to configure umasks in a more -- dare I say it -- user 
friendly manner? 

Cheers,

Dave Del Signore



John Wolford wrote:

> Let me understand this properly. Are you saying that you change your umaask
> setting in /etc/profile, and that setting is reflected in your shell, while at
> the same time Nautilus/Konqueror continue to behave as though the umask was
> 022?
> 
> Maybe you could try starting Konqueror from within the shell (which is behaving
> properly), and see if it behaves properly?
> 
> Sounds pretty weird :-)
> j
> 
> --- Dave Del Signore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> How does one go about changing the umask used by Nautilus and/or Konqueror?
>> I've tried setting it in "/etc/profile"and other places, but nothing I do
>> seems to change it from the standard 022 mask, even though it works normally
>> for my shell.  I'm running Mandrake 8.0.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dave Del Signore
>> 
> 
> 
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[expert] New aic7xxx driver is real slow when writing or reading an external iomega Jaz2GB

[msh]

I have an Adaptec 29160 SCSI adapter card (I've also tried the stuff
below using a 2940 U/W).  I have in internal Western digital 4 GB SCSI
Hard Drive and a Panasonic 24x SCSI CDRW.  I've checked the terminations
on all devices more than once.  (In fact I started out with incorrect
termination, but when I switched from a 2049 U/W to a 29160, the 29160
complained about it)

Here's my problem: when I try to read or write from the external drive
using it takes forever for the task to complete.

I've tried the following tests:
Change the cables
Change the cartridge
Change the SCSI addresses
Change the external drive
Change the card (2940 vs 29160)
Change the computer (however, all were thunderbird based with Asus A7V  
motherboards)

All systems above were multiboots with either win 2K or MDK 7.2.  The
external drive works prefectly when testing with those operating
systems.

Has anybody else had this problem?

I've also recompiled the MDK kernel with the old adaptec aic7 code
and everything works fine, so I seem to have a work around.

However, I would like to keep up with the recommended version of the
driver.  The Adaptec open source web recommends not using the old
driver.

I've tried applying patches from
http://people.freebsd.org/~gibbs/linux/, but they don't seem to work.  I
may not be applying them correctly.  the command listed on
http://people.freebsd.org/~gibbs/linux/ doesn't work (gzcat is not
available on any of my MDK 80 installations).  I've also tried these
patch commands (when in /usr/src/linux)

[root@b3 linux]# gunzip linux-aic7xxx-6.1.10-2.4.3.patch.gz | patch  

Result: no reported errors, but compilation won't comlete due to
errors  

and

[root@b3 linux-2.4.3.virgin]# zcat linux-aic7xxx-6.1.9-2.4.3.patch.gz | 
patch -p1 -d /usr/src/linux-2.4.3.virgin
patching file Documentation/Configure.help 
Hunk #1 succeeded at 5799 (offset 214 lines). patching file Makefile 
Hunk #1 FAILED at 144. 
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej
can't find file to patch at input line 27 
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? 
The text leading up to this was: 
-- 
|diff -u -r -N linux-2.4.3.virgin/arch/alpha/defconfig 
linux-2.4.3/arch/alpha/defconfig 
|--- linux-2.4.3.virgin/arch/alpha/defconfigSun Mar  4 15:30:18
2001 
|+++ linux-2.4.3/arch/alpha/defconfig   Wed Apr  4 15:49:21 2001 
-- 
File to patch:

There are several patches listed on
http://people.freebsd.org/~gibbs/linux/ for the 6.3.4 kernel (from 6.1.9
to 6.1.13).  I've tried them sequentially and just applied the
linux-aic7xxx-6.1.13-2.4.3.patch.gz patch.  Either I get compile errors
or patch errors.

Has anybody been able to apply these patches to the MDK80 source tree?

[expert] OpenGL on full-screen

[Turgut Kalfaoglu]

Greetings. In order to get 3D acceleration of ATI Mobility to work, I 
installed the older XFREE. Works great now - I have "gears" speed
in excess of 300FPS. However, the games that come with 8.0
that require full-screen crash the machine - with vertical blue
lines running on an otherwise dark screen. No CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
nor C-A-D can save the machine; the only thing that works is the
Big Reg Switch.. Any ideas what I should check?

Thanks, -turgut

Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 vs 7.2 with mouse!

[Turgut Kalfaoglu]

Great; glad you got it to work;
I just copied the resulting kernel as a new file within the /boot directory, 
like  
  cp  /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/bzImage /boot/kernel.2.4.4 

(I made up the kernel.2.4.4 name; I'm very creative when it comes
to filenames :)

then went into /etc/lilo.conf and  changed the image name, like
boot=/boot/vmlinuz
to 
boot=/boot/kernel.2.4.4
and re-ran lilo.
and it has been smooth sailing.. Upon reboot, I realised I had
not included FAT32 support; so I re-did the  MAKE XCONFIG step,
followed by make bzImage, and it Lived Happily Ever After!

-turgut

[expert] postinstall script for photopaint, kernel compile, etc need HELP

[Titiriga Dorin]

1.I have found on Corel news groups a script that solve problems of
corel photopaint for glibc 2.2 distributions. Unfortunattely it is not
working on mandrake 8. Is a people out there able to modify this script
to work with mandrake 8. I will put this file as a attachament.

2. I am unable to compile a new kernel for my mandrake 8. My kernel
compile ok, but I am unable to compile the modules kernel ( I got only
errors)

3. I am unable to install aureal drivers under mandrake 8

4. I am unable to install turboprint for linux under mandrake

 postinst.tar

[expert] Where is XFree86 RENDER extension?

[Nick Thompson]

I gave up on the upgrade of my 7.2->8.0 box and reinstalled from
scratch. Now when I start an X based application from a command line
I get an error like; "Xlib: missing RENDER extension on display 0:0".
What package is the RENDER extension in? I have a old 2MB ATI card based
on the Mach64 (RageII).

Also, will this make tuxracer playable ;-)

Thanks,
Nick.

Re: [expert] Setting umask on Nautilus, Konqueror

[John Wolford]

Let me understand this properly. Are you saying that you change your umaask
setting in /etc/profile, and that setting is reflected in your shell, while at
the same time Nautilus/Konqueror continue to behave as though the umask was
022?

Maybe you could try starting Konqueror from within the shell (which is behaving
properly), and see if it behaves properly?

Sounds pretty weird :-)
j

--- Dave Del Signore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> How does one go about changing the umask used by Nautilus and/or Konqueror?
> I've tried setting it in "/etc/profile"and other places, but nothing I do
> seems to change it from the standard 022 mask, even though it works normally
> for my shell.  I'm running Mandrake 8.0.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave Del Signore
> 


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Re: [expert] Two issues - inetd and remote X access

[John Wolford]

inetd might have disappeared, but did xinetd appear in its place?

It's a service just as inetd is, and it's conf file is /etc/xinetd.conf. It is
a replacement/enhancement for inetd.

j

--- Jim Gutterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I use an X-Windows server under MS Windows to access my Linux boxes.  I had
> a working system under LM 7.X, and now when I installed LM 8.0 the boxes
> show up in the XDMCP list but do not present the login screen when an
> attempt to connect is made.
> 
> In trying to track this down I noticed that the inetd.conf file is no longer
> available.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what happened to inetd.conf and how to reconnect to my LM
> 8.0 boxes?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jim Gutterman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
> 
> 


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Re: [expert] LILO no longer works

[John Wolford]

This probably won't work. Check what other's say about this (obviously) but i
think that / is seperate from the MBR and so formatting / will do nothing for
how your machine is(n't) booting. Although when you have exausted the possible,
start probing the impossible.

What you need is some hardware/harddrive guru to tell you what kind of
geometry-of-your-drive info you have to set up explicitly in
LILO/GRUB/whatever. Have you posted all the information possible on your hd
setup? Should you upgrade your motherboard bios? When you have exausted the
possible.

dunno :-)
j


--- Jay DeKing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, that didn't work either. I tried it with both LILO and GRUB, with
> the same results as always.
> 
> The next step, I guess, is to boot up with the install CD and do an
> install/update. Since I have most of the programs and data on partitions
> separate from "/", I shouldn't lose too much stuff when it makes me
> format "/" itself.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jay
> 
> Charles A Edwards wrote:
> > 
> > I'll give you something else to try.
> > 
> > Boot your system with a win98 start-up disk and fdisk /MBR.
> > Remove the win98 disk and insert your Mandrake boot disk.
> > Reboot your system.
> > 
> > Your system should now boot to Linux before Win rewrites
> > the boot record.
> > Use sbin lilo or grub sh to install the one of your choice,
> > either should now be able to fully install and be operational.
> > 
> >Charles  (-:
> > 
> > Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
> 
> -- 
> 
> There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
> 


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Re: [expert] Install Oracle Enterprise Edition 8.1.7 Release 3 on Linux Mandrake 8.0

[Jürgen Zimmermann]

> When I try to install oracle817 on linuxbox LM 8 i got error ini jre 1.1.8.

Ok. Problem with the JRE shipped along with Oracle8i for installation.
FIX: unset LANG


> anyone have tips and trick to install oracle 8.1.7 on LM 8.0

Yes, after installation, but before creating a database, install
the "glibc-2.1.3" patch (which is a must for 8.1.7 on glibc-2.2 systems.
URLs below, but you have to register to "technet.oracle.com" before.


http://otn.oracle.com/software/products/oracle8i/files/READMEglib213.html
http://download.oracle.com/otn/linux/oracle8i/glibc-2.1.3-stubs.tar.gz

Works here fine on a Mandrake-8.0 dual processor system.

So long,
  Jürgen