[expert] ML 8.2: gnome-terminal cannot paste from Klipper clipboard directly
Hi, I just upgraded my ML 8.1 to 8.2. Things are working fine after the upgrade except for one thing: gnome-terminal cannot paste from Klipper clipboard directly. The weird thing is that all the other applications (such as RXVT, mozilla, kedit) can paste from Klipper without any problem. Moreoever, if I highlight something on the other applications, then I can paste the highlighted item to gnome-terminal. The only thing that doesn't work is that if you click something from the Klipper history, then the highlighted history item cannot be pasted into gnome-terminal. Since I use gnome-terminal most of the time, this is kind of annoying. Does anybody know how workaround this problem? Thanks, John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:36:36 -0800 (PST) "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 19 March 2002 13:13, David Guntner wrote: > >> > >> Those sound useful. :-) Are they on one of the CDs, or do they > >> have to be downloaded from somewhere? Currently, the only way I can > >> check my CPU temp is to reboot and then go into the BIOS - not the > >> most optimal way... :-) > > > > The temp displayed in bios is for the most part useless. The > > system hasn't heated up yet, and HLT's (halts) aren't being sent by > > the kernel to the cpu. So while there's little load, there's no > > idling either. Cpu core temp can rise and fall dramatically with load. > > Shut down for some time, I'll see cpu temps from bios that are just > > above room temp (~30C), but by the time I get to KDE they're in the > > normal mid 40's. > > Unfortunately, krellm doesn't seem to display my CPU temprature, so I'm not > sure how I'm going to monitor it. BTW, just so you're aware of it, my > Linux machine (ML 8.1) is *never* powered off unless I'm having to get > inside the case to connect/disconnect something. So the temprature should > be staying pretty stable inside. > > I believe you on the CPU temp changing as the load goes up and down, I just > don't know how to actually monitor it while the system is running, since > those utilities don't seem to know where the CPU temp is being reported. > > >> I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled > >> "AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet," the Thermal Design section only says > >> that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a > >> certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. > > > > Well, maybe you can get the info somewhere, but it should be on > > their site. FWIW, my 1.4/266 Tbird is spec'd at 95C, but the 1.4 is > > also the hottest cpu AMD makes. Your K6 should be lower, 80C, maybe > > 85C is probly a decent guess on the high end, but it could be in the > > 70's. > > At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. > > I'll keep looking, but if it isn't in the "Themal Design" section of the > Processor Data Sheet, I'm kind-of at a loss for where to look... :-) > > >> I'm kind-of one step ahead of you there. :-) I pulled my 550MHz chip, > >> thinking that the problem could be with the CPU, and replaced it with > >> the old 350MHz chip that the 550MHz chip had replaced > >> originally (I tend not to throw away components when they get > >> replaced :). So the heatsink has a nice fresh coat of heatsink > >> grease on it, and I did blow everything out and reseated several > >> connectors (can't remember if I got them all or not, though...). > > > >Without gettin too far into it, cpu's that are run too hot, too > > long experience 'cpu creep'. There's actual migration and increased > > resistance of the internal components. Once that's happened, there's > > no going back. So it's good policy to monitor temp, and test > > occaisionly with memtest86 and cpuburn. Another benefit of > > monitoring cpu temp is you get early warning of runaway procceses, > > even if the system seems fairly normal in use. > > I agree. Again (just for information), the 350MHz chip that's in there now > never gave me any problems. I upgraded to the 550MHz chip to get more > speed, nothing more. I fell back to the 350MHz chip in an effort to see if > the problem was with the CPU. I'm running a different CPU but still having > the same hang problem, which is why I'm kind-of doubting a problem with the > CPU at this time. I'm persuing the testing information that you've been > providing because A) I'd like to be as sure that it's not the CPU as > possible, and B) I find the discussion to be quite interesting and > informative. > > Thanks again for all the information and suggestions. > > --Dave Dave when you switched CPU's did you use the same fan? If it isn't moving enough air it would cause them both to do the same thing. Having run a lot of k-6's from 300 - 500 mhz I've found that ideal temp for the "stock" fan is about 50 celcius and with a high end fan you can get down to about 42 to 45 (it improves benchmarks ever so slightly) under normal load. James > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > David Guntner wrote: >> >>I've got all three DIMM (I can't believe I've been saying SIMM all this >> time - argh!) slots populated at the present time. I'm going to start >> pulling them one at a time and see if the problem goes away. I've had >> really good results with Memtest-86 in the past, so I don't seriously >>think it's a DIMM module. But I want to be complete in my testing >> Especially before I have to track down a new motherboard. > > Well, if you have to do the latter, email me privately. I have > excellent sources for parts, because I test on junk as much as > possible. > (If it runs on junk, it probably runs on the good stuff). I'll try not to take the "junk" comment personally. Thanks for the kind offer, I'll keep it in mind. Eventually, I want to replace the motherboard and CPU with a newer one of both (something Athlon, because I prefer AMD over Intel), but right now the finances are a bit in the tight side --Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 March 2002 13:13, David Guntner wrote: >> >> Those sound useful. :-) Are they on one of the CDs, or do they >> have to be downloaded from somewhere? Currently, the only way I can >> check my CPU temp is to reboot and then go into the BIOS - not the >> most optimal way... :-) > > The temp displayed in bios is for the most part useless. The > system hasn't heated up yet, and HLT's (halts) aren't being sent by > the kernel to the cpu. So while there's little load, there's no > idling either. Cpu core temp can rise and fall dramatically with load. > Shut down for some time, I'll see cpu temps from bios that are just > above room temp (~30C), but by the time I get to KDE they're in the > normal mid 40's. Unfortunately, krellm doesn't seem to display my CPU temprature, so I'm not sure how I'm going to monitor it. BTW, just so you're aware of it, my Linux machine (ML 8.1) is *never* powered off unless I'm having to get inside the case to connect/disconnect something. So the temprature should be staying pretty stable inside. I believe you on the CPU temp changing as the load goes up and down, I just don't know how to actually monitor it while the system is running, since those utilities don't seem to know where the CPU temp is being reported. >> I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled >> "AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet," the Thermal Design section only says >> that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a >> certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. > > Well, maybe you can get the info somewhere, but it should be on > their site. FWIW, my 1.4/266 Tbird is spec'd at 95C, but the 1.4 is > also the hottest cpu AMD makes. Your K6 should be lower, 80C, maybe > 85C is probly a decent guess on the high end, but it could be in the > 70's. At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. I'll keep looking, but if it isn't in the "Themal Design" section of the Processor Data Sheet, I'm kind-of at a loss for where to look... :-) >> I'm kind-of one step ahead of you there. :-) I pulled my 550MHz chip, >> thinking that the problem could be with the CPU, and replaced it with >> the old 350MHz chip that the 550MHz chip had replaced >> originally (I tend not to throw away components when they get >> replaced :). So the heatsink has a nice fresh coat of heatsink >> grease on it, and I did blow everything out and reseated several >> connectors (can't remember if I got them all or not, though...). > >Without gettin too far into it, cpu's that are run too hot, too > long experience 'cpu creep'. There's actual migration and increased > resistance of the internal components. Once that's happened, there's > no going back. So it's good policy to monitor temp, and test > occaisionly with memtest86 and cpuburn. Another benefit of > monitoring cpu temp is you get early warning of runaway procceses, > even if the system seems fairly normal in use. I agree. Again (just for information), the 350MHz chip that's in there now never gave me any problems. I upgraded to the 550MHz chip to get more speed, nothing more. I fell back to the 350MHz chip in an effort to see if the problem was with the CPU. I'm running a different CPU but still having the same hang problem, which is why I'm kind-of doubting a problem with the CPU at this time. I'm persuing the testing information that you've been providing because A) I'd like to be as sure that it's not the CPU as possible, and B) I find the discussion to be quite interesting and informative. Thanks again for all the information and suggestions. --Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 08:47 pm, Christian Dysthe wrote: > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:15:57 -0600 > > Lorne Shantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > |You don't mention which version. I'm currently using 8.2 RC1 and > |harddrake is working fine for me. At least I tried the first 1/3rd > |of the options and it seems fine. What isn't working for you? > > It hasn't been working through 8.2 beta 3 and 4, through RC1, to > final which is installed now. > > When I start harddrake nothing happens at all. My mouse freezes for > a second or two, then nothing. I have to kill harddrake from the > console. And as I said, no such problem in 8.0 and 8.1.| Weird. It must be somehow related to the hardware.??? I'm using an older Intel mb and cpu with 128mb ram. Nothing fancy and I am running 8.2rc1 with no issue like you are seeing. I dunno man. Good luck... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
Christian Dysthe wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:15:57 -0600 > Lorne Shantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > |You don't mention which version. I'm currently using 8.2 RC1 and > |harddrake is working fine for me. At least I tried the first 1/3rd > |of the options and it seems fine. What isn't working for you? > > It hasn't been working through 8.2 beta 3 and 4, through RC1, to > final which is installed now. > > When I start harddrake nothing happens at all. My mouse freezes for > a second or two, then nothing. I have to kill harddrake from the > console. And as I said, no such problem in 8.0 and 8.1.| > > -- > Christian Dysthe > http://www.dysthe.net > ICQ: 3945810 > Registered Linux User #228949 > > "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side > in their life" > > -Irving Berlin- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ive got a Viao FX290 and its never worked. In fact, I have to hit the power button to reboot. I think it is a device probing problem. The screen turns black, then a cursor, then nothing. I had similar problems with 8.1 install. I had to do it with expert noauto or it locked up as well. Rob. -- - The Numeric Python EM Project www.pythonemproject.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake Control Center doesn't work/broken
I don't know if I told anyone before but the last two versions that I have installed (not sequencial versions) has had a broken /mount points/hardrives. It pops up with a screen that says "this tool seems to be broken, as it didn't show up. Try to reinstall it." Even though it comes up underneath. If you don't close out this error message you can continue to use diskdrake!? However if you select configuration tool from hard drake it pops up just fine. Just FYI. I'm sure it is already being taken care of. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:15:57 -0600 Lorne Shantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |You don't mention which version. I'm currently using 8.2 RC1 and |harddrake is working fine for me. At least I tried the first 1/3rd |of the options and it seems fine. What isn't working for you? It hasn't been working through 8.2 beta 3 and 4, through RC1, to final which is installed now. When I start harddrake nothing happens at all. My mouse freezes for a second or two, then nothing. I have to kill harddrake from the console. And as I said, no such problem in 8.0 and 8.1.| -- Christian Dysthe http://www.dysthe.net ICQ: 3945810 Registered Linux User #228949 "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side in their life" -Irving Berlin- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 16:05, Michael Holt wrote: > hehe... thanks for the chuckle! I don't know where you're at but we're > finally getting snow here in Washington (couple inches) after nothing but > rain from November till now. My family and I are going to move to > California this summer 'cause I think I'm starting to mold! > > Mike > > p.s. just to stay on topic, VI is the best!!! ;-p I'm with you, Mike. Vim knows no kryptonite. L8R LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]How to clone a drive
I'll take a look at that too. As for a free stot 2 of the drives are simply /home directory extensions so they can move to the side for a moment. (that copy will be straight forward.) Oh and I got partimage to work. Seems that U need to use the boot disk version not the install version. It doesn't see a working file system. Which doesn't explain why there is an installable version . but. James On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:56:34 +0100 (MET) Thorsten Gecks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19 Mar 2002, Brian Parish wrote: > > Perhaps you don't need an image, you only need to copy the data, so might > the New-Harddisk-HOWTO might help you (in fact it helped me in that > situation (perhaps you're problem might be another free IDE slot...) > > > Ok I took the plunge and bought a monster drive today. > >Which means 3 4 gig and one 6 gig drive can semi retire (one retired > >itself > >that's why I took the plunge) What I'm hoping is that there is a way to > > clone the drive that has my / and /boot partitions. (I'm keeping the 6 > >as /home for myself alone) In the windwoze world there is ghost. Is > >there anything like that in Linux? Searches on Freshmeat and google > >haven't turned up anything in English. (or even french or german that I > >can half way muddle through) Anyone here have an answer to how to clone > >the drive so that I do not have to reconfigure/install the whole mess > >(*grin*) all over again. I'm kinda racing the clock on this drive as > >it's about 4 years old and starting to get a bit cranky. > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
Just the one drive on tha first channel, CD & ZIP on second channel. I think I just have a flaky MoBo, even the new one won't run 98SE with the NIC and the Matrox vid without locking up. Take either one out and it's fine . Runs much better in mdk8.1 I'm testing 8.2 right now using an 18Gb Samsung, an ATI all in wonder AGP 8Mb vid and 3Com NIC, so far, so good. On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:32 am, you wrote: > when you changed the cable did you have one drive on each cable or more > than one drive on each IDE channel? > > On Tuesday 19 March 2002 12:48, you wrote: > > In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 & 80 pin), changed memory, > > video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the > > onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. > > > > On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: > > > One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. > > > I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data > > > on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data > > > transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since > > > then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and > > > pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a > > > ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A > > > good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in > > > another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on > > > another box and my problems were cables first ram second. > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + > > > > > > Nick Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big > > > > nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American > > > > Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things > > > > started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and > > > > wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray > > > > tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks > > > > whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have > > > > a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your > > > > problem, but who knows... > > > > > > > > Nick. > > > > > > > > Ken Thompson wrote: > > > > >On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: > > > > >>Hi everyone, > > > > >> > > > > >>I got a tremendous problem here. > > > > >>I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I > > > > >> have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes > > > > >> the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. > > > > >> This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all > > > > >> anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but > > > > >> the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought > > > > >> the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. > > > > >> After a couple weeks, there I am again. > > > > > > > > > >I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. > > > > >AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ > > > > >512 RAM > > > > >Epox 8KTA3+ > > > > >Matrox millineum 450 > > > > >LinkSys NIC > > > > >Onboard sound > > > > >USR Hardware modem V.92 > > > > >I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, > > > > > Video and NIC cards. > > > > >I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install > > > > > to clean it up. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 01:35 pm, Joseph Braddock wrote: > It works in my 8.2. Did you do a clean install an install without > formatting or an update? > I did an update without formatting and it STILl works for me just fine. I've gone from 8.1 to 8.2 b1 and rc1. the other betas wouldn't install for me. > Joe > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:29:03 -0600 > > Christian Dysthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > harddrake doesn't work (hangs, nothing happens) in 8.2. It worked > > fine in 8.1. The KDE hardware detection works fine in 8.2. Am I the > > only one with this problem? > > > > -- > > Christian Dysthe > > http://www.dysthe.net > > ICQ: 3945810 > > Registered Linux User #228949 > > > > "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side > > in their life" > > > > -Irving Berlin- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:29 am, Christian Dysthe wrote: > Hi, > > harddrake doesn't work (hangs, nothing happens) in 8.2. It worked > fine in 8.1. The KDE hardware detection works fine in 8.2. Am I the > only one with this problem? You don't mention which version. I'm currently using 8.2 RC1 and harddrake is working fine for me. At least I tried the first 1/3rd of the options and it seems fine. What isn't working for you? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
I kept /home which has it's own partions. Other than that my install was clean. On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:35:31 -0600 Joseph Braddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |It works in my 8.2. Did you do a clean install an install without |formatting or an update? | |Joe | -- Christian Dysthe http://www.dysthe.net ICQ: 3945810 Registered Linux User #228949 "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side in their life" -Irving Berlin- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
I havent seen anyone mention NVIDIA drivers yet. Are you using this card? Its a known problem, particularly if you have other openGL stuff (Mesa) around. Also, my old K6 would keel over every start of summer with dirt clogging the cpu/power supply fans that builds up over winter. First warm days and crash. The first sign is kernel opp's in the syslog/ctrl-altF12 monitor screen - time to get out the vacuume cleaner! On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 04:48, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Tuesday 19 March 2002 13:13, David Guntner wrote: > > Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > Well, I'd suspect overheating too since the ram checks out. > > > Install lm_sensors and gkrellm if they aren't already, and > > > constantly monitor your cpu temp. > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux software RAID setup
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > Note: The cleanest way to set up a winblows partition is to put it in on > a seperate cheap 4 gig hard disk as an IDE slave device, thus giving you > the freedom to use your two brand new drives completely in the RAID > array. This is what I ended up doing. It won't affect your array > performance. > Lyvim, this sounds similar to raid schemes I have implemented. So, now I must ask, what is your output from running "hdparm -tT /dev/hde" or "hdparm -tT /dev/hdg"? Thanks, -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors
Deryk Barker wrote: > Thus spake Michael Holt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > ... > >>p.s. just to stay on topic, VI is the best!!! ;-p > > > How can a falsehood be on topic? :-) > clear evidence that ignorance is not bliss. ;) -- Mark "I suppose I should have a pithy saying here..." "The brain reports all neurons busy processing sub-routines are currently occupied. Retry your query in five minutes." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
David Guntner wrote: >James grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > >> Just had a friend walk in so I asked him... He had the same problem >>and it was because the CPU fan had gotten worn down and wasn't cooling >>the CPU as well as it used to (plus a lot of the k-6 fans were flaky >>to start) His suggestion is to (his words not mine) open up the case >>stick a destop fan blowing into the box. If that changes the time >>before it crokes... it's the fan. Or if you don't want such a crude >>test get one of the cylindrical(sp?) fans on the market now put it in >>and try it out that way. Fans cheaper and easier to find than a k-6 >>mobo these days. >> > >I know. :-) I'm dreading having to track down a new motherboard for this >beast, although as I progress further and further, it's looking more and >more likely. FWIW, the BIOS has not been reporting abnormally high >tempratures on the CPU. The 350MHz one I have in their currently is >running around 109 degrees F, which isn't that bad. > >I've got all three DIMM (I can't believe I've been saying SIMM all this >time - argh!) slots populated at the present time. I'm going to start >pulling them one at a time and see if the problem goes away. I've had >really good results with Memtest-86 in the past, so I don't seriously think >it's a DIMM module. But I want to be complete in my testing >Especially before I have to track down a new motherboard. > > --Dave > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Well, if you have to do the latter, email me privately. I have excellent sources for parts, because I test on junk as much as possible. (If it runs on junk, it probably runs on the good stuff). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 13:13, David Guntner wrote: > Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Well, I'd suspect overheating too since the ram checks out. > > Install lm_sensors and gkrellm if they aren't already, and > > constantly monitor your cpu temp. > > Those sound useful. :-) Are they on one of the CDs, or do they > have to be downloaded from somewhere? Currently, the only way I > can check my CPU temp is to reboot and then go into the BIOS - not > the most optimal way... :-) lm_sensors and gkrellm should be on your CD's. Older Mandrake releases might have lm_utils also. I've got (8.2b2+ cooker updates), lm_sensors-2.6.2-4mdk and gkrellm-1.2.8-2mdk If you're runnin 8.2, and get an error on boot somethin like "Make sure that you have done "modprobe i2c-proc" Error loading -4 ... /etc/sensor.conf" I fixed it by puttini2c-procin /etc/modules altho sensors worked fine inspite of the boot error. The temp displayed in bios is for the most part useless. The system hasn't heated up yet, and HLT's (halts) aren't being sent by the kernel to the cpu. So while there's little load, there's no idling either. Cpu core temp can rise and fall dramatically with load. Shut down for some time, I'll see cpu temps from bios that are just above room temp (~30C), but by the time I get to KDE they're in the normal mid 40's. > I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled > "AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet," the Thermal Design section only > says that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a > certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. Well, maybe you can get the info somewhere, but it should be on their site. FWIW, my 1.4/266 Tbird is spec'd at 95C, but the 1.4 is also the hottest cpu AMD makes. Your K6 should be lower, 80C, maybe 85C is probly a decent guess on the high end, but it could be in the 70's. > I'm kind-of one step ahead of you there. :-) I pulled my 550MHz > chip, thinking that the problem could be with the CPU, and replaced > it with the old 350MHz chip that the 550MHz chip had replaced > originally (I tend not to throw away components when they get > replaced :). So the heatsink has a nice fresh coat of heatsink > grease on it, and I did blow everything out and reseated several > connectors (can't remember if I got them all or not, though...). Without gettin too far into it, cpu's that are run too hot, too long experience 'cpu creep'. There's actual migration and increased resistance of the internal components. Once that's happened, there's no going back. So it's good policy to monitor temp, and test occaisionly with memtest86 and cpuburn. Another benefit of monitoring cpu temp is you get early warning of runaway procceses, even if the system seems fairly normal in use. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > >>Ok...I'll add my 2.572 cents in here. I would have to say that while I >>like commandline vi and I can also appreciate and use emacs, over all my >>favorite is XVim. that way I get my cake and eat it too. >> > >Speaking of Emacs/VI, I'm looking for TeX "helpers" that will allow me >to automatically create TeX tables while editing. I have tried LyX, but >it's not very stable and I prefer to edit the source directly. Anyone >know of such a thing? > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Hmmm, I do believe you would benefit from scoring a document called the users manual for Final Word. Final Word II was sold to Borland and became Sprint and failed with many other text systems at the time, but Final Word originally grew out of MINCE and SCRIBBLE. Scribble was a TeX-like thing and MINCE is a recursive acronym (Mince Is Not Complete Emacs). In MINCE or EMACS it is possible to set up many complex procedures, but never was it demonstrated better than in that manual. Of course a macro processor of some general form, even something like ML/1, would provide what you seek as well. You would of course have to define your own macros. And Emacs-Lisp could do the job, too, if you want to learn it. As usual, the one with all the power sacrifices some ease of learning and use for the flexibility. Civileme > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] SSH Tunelling
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have two ssh tunnels that are run in my .bashrc file so that i can have secure pop/smtp. The system works great, but it does have one setback, each time i open a new terminal (which obviously runs bash) i get more and more ssh processes running. How can i set this up so that the tunnels are only setup if they need to be? Is there a way to make the ssh command run only if the tunnels do not exist? I read somewhere that you can add tunnels to the .ssh/config file but i have found no documentation detailing this. Thanks Tom -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8l5gaXCpWOla2mCcRAjCPAKCk+BqR9HE+BsWEfSH+ZWoAXFGYSwCgkuwf VNvY0WiJe1jsis/9XokXt1w= =kc9e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Well, I'd suspect overheating too since the ram checks out. > Install lm_sensors and gkrellm if they aren't already, and constantly > monitor your cpu temp. FWIW, I found those on the CDs (thanks for mentioning them) and installed them. Neat monitoring tool that I'm going to make a habit of running, but it would appear that the PMU plugin doesn't see my CPU temprature for whatever reason. I won't be able to keep an eye on it that way --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux software RAID setup
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: >On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 09:51, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > >>I am thinking of purchasing a new computer with two hard drives of the same type >>and size. I am interested in implementing a Linux software RAID0 (striping) >>setup. I have a few questions on this. >> > >One more thing. Here are the mount points for the raid devices: > >[root@tamriel proc]# less mounts >/dev/root / ext3 rw 0 0 >/dev /dev devfs rw 0 0 >/proc /proc proc rw 0 0 >/dev/md0 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 >none /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0 >none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 >/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat rw 0 0 >/dev/md3 /tmp ext3 rw 0 0 >/dev/md5 /usr ext3 rw 0 0 >/dev/md4 /var ext3 rw 0 0 >/proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0 >/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev 0 0 >/dev/hdc /mnt/dvd iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev 0 0 > >The following is not necessarily related to raid per se. The system >here has been arranged according to file lifetimes; in other words, it's >totally configured from the standpoint of filesystem activity. In my >personal scheme of things, the activity categories are as follows: > >1) Sacred (root/boot and associated binaries) > >2) Low (Mainly the /usr directory and binaries, but not including src >and where the source rpms are compiled) > >3) Medium (/var and /home. /home is moved to /var/home and symlinked >to ../../home. Thus essentially "home" is on the /var partition.) > >4) High (/tmp directory) > >The philosophy behind the filesystem activity arrangement is partly >performance and mostly safety. Filesystem performance is just a neat >side benefit. The higher the activity of a filesystem, the greater the >probability that something can go awry in that filesystem. By dividing >the system up by file lifetimes, damage is contained more efficiently >and effectively. Symlinks allow us to maintain compatibility with the >Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. Of course the partitions are placed on >the hard disks where activity and performance coincide, thus further >maximizing the strategy and effects. > >Example: The /tmp directory has the highest level of activity, >consequently it also carries with it the greatest level of risk. If by >chance the /tmp directory was on the root partition, a faux pas in the >tmp directory would possibly put the entire root partition at risk. In >the above scenario, a /tmp blowout would be totally non fatal. Just one >possible scenario. > >The partition sizes described in the first message I sent in this thread >were derived from an experimental LM81 install and hand-picked >packages. The size of that custom install and the directories were >assessed, taking into account the final physical resting place and >possible future expanded size of all the directories, including /home. >With that information in hand, the LM81 install was wiped and the >configuration I sent you the first time was installed. > >The lion's share of the space goes to the /var partition, which >physically houses /home, /usr/local, and /usr/src dirs while maintaining >consistency of locality (to the FHS) via symlinks. Additionally this >means we have alot of expandability possiblilities with /home without >having to worry with a /home partition being outstripped spacewise >because of shortsightedness. Same for game installs in /usr/local. >Consolidation of space ends up being efficient but not at the expense of >cramming everything together unilaterally. > > >_ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > One thing should be obvious, since linux software RAID lets you mix and match, is that you do _not_ need identical type and size drives. I am running software RAIDs with one IDE and one SCSI. The indetical type and size sort-of applies to the so-called "hardware" IDE RAID controllers which work fine to give Windows a single RAID (which you can partition). Those controllers are of course really BIOS extensions secret, proprietary and so on ad nauseum, but even they will work with different drives, just your maximum single extent will be the size of the smaller drive. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
It works in my 8.2. Did you do a clean install an install without formatting or an update? Joe On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:29:03 -0600 Christian Dysthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > harddrake doesn't work (hangs, nothing happens) in 8.2. It worked > fine in 8.1. The KDE hardware detection works fine in 8.2. Am I the > only one with this problem? > > -- > Christian Dysthe > http://www.dysthe.net > ICQ: 3945810 > Registered Linux User #228949 > > "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side >in their life" > > -Irving Berlin- > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Well, I'd suspect overheating too since the ram checks out. > Install lm_sensors and gkrellm if they aren't already, and constantly > monitor your cpu temp. Those sound useful. :-) Are they on one of the CDs, or do they have to be downloaded from somewhere? Currently, the only way I can check my CPU temp is to reboot and then go into the BIOS - not the most optimal way... :-) > Since the system will pass memtest86, you're > ready to really test it. Go to www.amd.com and find out the core > failure temp for your K6. Since the temp from a probe (thermistor) > can be as much as 30°C less than the core temp, you should be seein > cpu temps from lm_sensors that are failure temp minus 30°C. EG, if > AMD specs the max core temp at 80°C, then you never want your > displayed temp to go over 50°C, and certainly not 60°C. I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled "AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet," the Thermal Design section only says that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. > If you're OK, then d/l cpuburn http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/ > and run 'burn'K6'. Cpu temp will rapidly rise, and if it gets to > within 20°C of failure temp, abort burnK6 and improve your cpu and > case cooling. Generally case temps are the problem, but if your > heatsink is mounted with a thermal pad, clean it off and remount the > hs with thermal grease. 'Course while you're in there, clean out the > dust bunnies, and reseat all your cable connections, harddrive > cables, and peripheral cards, including the ram. I'm kind-of one step ahead of you there. :-) I pulled my 550MHz chip, thinking that the problem could be with the CPU, and replaced it with the old 350MHz chip that the 550MHz chip had replaced originally (I tend not to throw away components when they get replaced :). So the heatsink has a nice fresh coat of heatsink grease on it, and I did blow everything out and reseated several connectors (can't remember if I got them all or not, though...). > Memtest86 is a great first test, but any properly cooled and > stable system should be able to run the appropriate cpuburn module > for at least an hour. Weak systems and those overclocked too far will > probly fail within 10 to 15 minutes. If ya don't wanna do all the > above, then at least take your case cover off, clean out the dust, > and point a table fan into the case an see if that remedies your > problems. If it does, you need to improve case cooling. I will give those various things a try. Thanks for the suggestions. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
when you changed the cable did you have one drive on each cable or more than one drive on each IDE channel? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 12:48, you wrote: > In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 & 80 pin), changed memory, > video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard > sound and using a PCI sound card. > > On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: > > One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. > > I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on > > the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data > > transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since > > then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling > > (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of > > headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to > > check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box > > and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my > > problems were cables first ram second. > > > > James > > > > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + > > > > Nick Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big > > > nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American > > > Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started > > > to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't > > > reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, > > > designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred > > > round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis > > > speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but > > > who knows... > > > > > > Nick. > > > > > > Ken Thompson wrote: > > > >On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: > > > >>Hi everyone, > > > >> > > > >>I got a tremendous problem here. > > > >>I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I > > > >> have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the > > > >> checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This > > > >> time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. > > > >> Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick > > > >> is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was > > > >> getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple > > > >> weeks, there I am again. > > > > > > > >I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. > > > >AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ > > > >512 RAM > > > >Epox 8KTA3+ > > > >Matrox millineum 450 > > > >LinkSys NIC > > > >Onboard sound > > > >USR Hardware modem V.92 > > > >I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, > > > > Video and NIC cards. > > > >I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to > > > > clean it up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
James grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Just had a friend walk in so I asked him... He had the same problem > and it was because the CPU fan had gotten worn down and wasn't cooling > the CPU as well as it used to (plus a lot of the k-6 fans were flaky > to start) His suggestion is to (his words not mine) open up the case > stick a destop fan blowing into the box. If that changes the time > before it crokes... it's the fan. Or if you don't want such a crude > test get one of the cylindrical(sp?) fans on the market now put it in > and try it out that way. Fans cheaper and easier to find than a k-6 > mobo these days. I know. :-) I'm dreading having to track down a new motherboard for this beast, although as I progress further and further, it's looking more and more likely. FWIW, the BIOS has not been reporting abnormally high tempratures on the CPU. The 350MHz one I have in their currently is running around 109 degrees F, which isn't that bad. I've got all three DIMM (I can't believe I've been saying SIMM all this time - argh!) slots populated at the present time. I'm going to start pulling them one at a time and see if the problem goes away. I've had really good results with Memtest-86 in the past, so I don't seriously think it's a DIMM module. But I want to be complete in my testing Especially before I have to track down a new motherboard. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Brian Parish grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Memtest was a good first step. Sounds like it's now time for cpuburn. > That is likely to reveal what memtest cannot and also completely > divorces you from the OS in diagnosing the problem. Google for cpuburn > and you'll hit it first time. Tom Brinkman recommended it the other > day, so it comes with high endorsement. I will give that a try, too. Thanks. Just FYI, Memtest-86 is contained on a bootable floppy, so it's not OS dependant, either. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 & 80 pin), changed memory, video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: > One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've > had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the > drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not > the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's > mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said > light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did > you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can > is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what > happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were > cables first ram second. > > James > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + > > Nick Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big > > nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American > > Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started > > to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't > > reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, > > designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred > > round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis > > speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who > > knows... > > > > Nick. > > > > Ken Thompson wrote: > > >On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: > > >>Hi everyone, > > >> > > >>I got a tremendous problem here. > > >>I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I > > >> have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the > > >> checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time > > >> the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. > > >>Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, > > >>this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting > > >> old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, > > >> there I am again. > > > > > >I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. > > >AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ > > >512 RAM > > >Epox 8KTA3+ > > >Matrox millineum 450 > > >LinkSys NIC > > >Onboard sound > > >USR Hardware modem V.92 > > >I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, > > > Video and NIC cards. > > >I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to > > > clean it up. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Do you have an external connection and an ssh server? > > Let's see whether it is a keyboard lockup or something else. Oh, it's the system alright. I've got two computers here, one a Win98SE box, and one my ML 8.1 box. I do have a ssh daemon running on the Linux box, and when this thing has hung up like this, my ssh client on the Windows box won't connect to the Linux box. > The ctrl-alt-printscr should sync stuff out to disk to give you a chance > to log the freeze-up. I will give that a try the next time the system hangs. If it reports anything in the logs, I'll post it here. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
Hi, harddrake doesn't work (hangs, nothing happens) in 8.2. It worked fine in 8.1. The KDE hardware detection works fine in 8.2. Am I the only one with this problem? -- Christian Dysthe http://www.dysthe.net ICQ: 3945810 Registered Linux User #228949 "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side in their life" -Irving Berlin- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
David Guntner wrote: > > Jonathan Dlouhy grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > Dave, it definetly sounds like a hardware problem. It sounds like > > something gets heated up after 24 hours then fails. It could be a one > > of several things. Don't flame me for this, but, have you tried a > > different OS to see if it does the same thing? > > That would require an awful *lot* of work to install something else, which > is not exactly something I'm too keen on right now... :-) However, as it > *has* been runing Mandrake reliably for many months (close to a year) now, > I don't think it's an OS thing. Not a flame, just some info. :-) > > > If so, then it's got to be a hardware problem. I would investigate the > > RAM, then the motherboard. I don't know how much ram you have, but if > > you could beg, borrow or steal some other ram, swap yours out then > > run it for a couple of days. If it doesn't lock up, then I guess we > > know the problem. If it still does it it's time to look at the mb. > > After that I'm out of ideas. > > I've got 256M of RAM in the machine, to answer your (implied) question. I > don't know anyone with memory that I could borrow. :-) As I mentioned in > my earlier message, I've run Memtest-86 (you boot it up from a diskette) on > this machine, and it doesn't find any problems with memory (when I was > experiencing a problem where the machine started spontaneously rebooting > from time to time for no apparent reason, Memtest-86 identified bad memory > and when I replaced that SIMM module, the reboots stopped - so I trust this > utility). > > Thanks for the reply! > > --Dave Another utility you might try in order to test the system is the burnin program. There is a pc system exercisr and diagnostic tool, burnin43.zip. It's old but works. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > > Ok...I'll add my 2.572 cents in here. I would have to say that while I > like commandline vi and I can also appreciate and use emacs, over all my > favorite is XVim. that way I get my cake and eat it too. > Speaking of Emacs/VI, I'm looking for TeX "helpers" that will allow me to automatically create TeX tables while editing. I have tried LyX, but it's not very stable and I prefer to edit the source directly. Anyone know of such a thing? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors
Michael Holt wrote: > Yesterday... civileme ran for the door shrieking: > > >>SCENARIO: >> >>Son: Daddy, why do we have to hide from the police? >>Father: Because we use emacs, son. They use vi. >> >>(Shamelessly ripped off from someone's signature who shall remain >>anonymous here unless he claims ownership) >> >>Anyway, have a nice day (A wish from someone who has had 37 inches of >>snow dumped on him in less than 24 hours). >> >>Civileme > > > hehe... thanks for the chuckle! I don't know where you're at but we're > finally getting snow here in Washington (couple inches) after nothing but > rain from November till now. My family and I are going to move to > California this summer 'cause I think I'm starting to mold! > > Mike > > p.s. just to stay on topic, VI is the best!!! ;-p Ok...I'll add my 2.572 cents in here. I would have to say that while I like commandline vi and I can also appreciate and use emacs, over all my favorite is XVim. that way I get my cake and eat it too. -- Mark "I suppose I should have a pithy saying here..." "The brain reports all neurons busy processing sub-routines are currently occupied. Retry your query in five minutes." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
David, Are you *sure* it's completely stopped...? Can you still ping or even ssh into the box? If so, issue "telinit 3" and "telinit 5"... if that brings it back to life, I'd be really interested in knowing if Ctl+Alt+Fn locks it up again... My desktop is in this state now... everything looks fine; but I can't switch to a virtual console (had this problem on my laptop too) without locking up again... While many people suggest hardware problems, I'm not convinced when I see the problem on more than one system and when a reload clears up a problem which won't go away by simply restarting X... Reboot is only required to clear up the Ctl+Alt+Fn lockups, and I *HATE* rebooting... :> Did I mention this never happened with X 3.*; only since X 4.*...? Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Encrypted file system after upgrading from 8.1 to 8.2.
Hi, I have upgraded from 8.1 to 8.2 without any problems at all (wow!). However, I would like to have my file system encrypted since I run Mandrake on a laptop. Is there a way to convert without reformatting? TIA -- Christian Dysthe http://www.dysthe.net ICQ: 3945810 Registered Linux User #228949 "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side in their life" -Irving Berlin- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK 82 and AA
Hi, This morning I did a clean install of 8.2. If I choose to turn AA on in control centre, then half of my fonts disappear out of the list of available fonts. This webpage http:linux.hamsternet.org/fonts.html shows screen shots of the fonts available before choosing AA and after choosing AA. Can anyone enlighten me as to what causes these fonts to be removed? Previous to this mornings install I have been running 8.2beta3, with no font problems at all. Something has happened between beta3 and the final. Thanks!! H Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Single network firewall install problem
I am trying to install the Mandrake Single network Firewall. The machine is an AMD k6-2/450 with 128 Mb Ram (2 64 MB DIMMS) and a 10 GB Hard drive. The board has video integrated on the board that uses 8 mb of Ram for video. The problem is when I start the install it gets to the loading 2nd stage ram disk and bombs with an "error creating RAM disk" error message. I have swapped the ram with ram that I know works, I have tried each stick in either slot, both together and singly. I have tried the mem=120M option as well as mem=128M. The CD will install the software on another computer so I assume the CD is good. I am able to install Mandrake 7.1 on this machine with no problem, but the SNF and 8.1 will not install Any ideas? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]How to clone a drive
On 19 Mar 2002, Brian Parish wrote: Perhaps you don't need an image, you only need to copy the data, so might the New-Harddisk-HOWTO might help you (in fact it helped me in that situation (perhaps you're problem might be another free IDE slot...) > Ok I took the plunge and bought a monster drive today. >Which means 3 4 gig and one 6 gig drive can semi retire (one retired >itself >that's why I took the plunge) What I'm hoping is that there is a way to > clone the drive that has my / and /boot partitions. (I'm keeping the 6 >as /home for myself alone) In the windwoze world there is ghost. Is >there anything like that in Linux? Searches on Freshmeat and google >haven't turned up anything in English. (or even french or german that I >can half way muddle through) Anyone here have an answer to how to clone >the drive so that I do not have to reconfigure/install the whole mess >(*grin*) all over again. I'm kinda racing the clock on this drive as >it's about 4 years old and starting to get a bit cranky. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]How to clone a drive
Spooky! Mine is licensed. I just boot the floppy, start ghost and select: local:disk to disk, select the two physical drives and hit Go. The first time I installed Ghost it put a load of garbage on the drive but I just put the executable onto floppy and got rid of the rest. Have not seen any other options to resize. Mind you I never read the instructions...do you run from boot disk or windows gui? Dave Original Message: - From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20 Mar 2002 00:04:23 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert]How to clone a drive Mine does! Are you using the OEM version that is sometimes bundled with new machines, or the fully licensed version? With mine I can and have cloned a small disk to a larger one and chosen the new partition sizes individually as part of the process. No problem. Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 23:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ghost does not resize the partitions, it mirrors the partition sizes exactly. It >leaves it up to you to allocate the new extra space. > > Dave > > Original Message: > - > From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 19 Mar 2002 20:28:37 +1100 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert]How to clone a drive > > > Hmmm, Just had a look at the website. They say it supports all the > "popular" OS's. For some reason Linux doesn't appear on the list > though. > > I think you would need specific support for each FS (Reiser in this > case) particularly when migrating to a larger HD, as you'd want to > adjust partition sizes olong the way. Ghost handles this for ext2, but > I don't think it sees any of the journalled FS's. > > Partimage may be the only solution, although as said previously, my > cursory tryout was unsuccessful. As I have Ghost, I was probably not > motivated enough to make it work. > > Brian > > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 19:47, FemmeFatale wrote: > > If You need it & don't mind buying software, get Drive Copy. Its from > > the guys who make Partition Magic. Great s/w so I understand, at least > > one of the best hardware mags I know of that I buy uses it regularly > > before testing systems. > > > > :) > > > > Femme > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 16:44, James wrote: > > > > Ok I took the plunge and bought a monster drive today. Which means 3 4 gig >and one 6 gig drive can semi retire (one retired itself that's why I took the plunge) > What I'm hoping is that there is a way to clone the drive that has my / and /boot >partitions. (I'm keeping the 6 as /home for myself alone) In the windwoze world >there is ghost. Is there anything like that in Linux? Searches on Freshmeat and >google haven't turned up anything in English. (or even french or german that I can >half way muddle through) Anyone here have an answer to how to clone the drive so that >I do not have to reconfigure/install the whole mess (*grin*) all over again. I'm >kinda racing the clock on this drive as it's about 4 years old and starting to get a >bit cranky. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ppp from user accounts doesn't work
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:05:23 -0500 Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:52:22 -0600 Christian Dysthe |<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> "Cannot open /dev/modem: Device or resource busy" using wvdial |> from user accounts. |> |> What am I missing? | |/dev/modem I did /dev/modem as well, but no go. The problem turned out to be the permissions for the wvdial executable itself. I set it suid root and it worked (probably not a good idea security wise, but this is a laptop only used by me). Thanks anyway.| | | -- Christian Dysthe http://www.dysthe.net ICQ: 3945810 Registered Linux User #228949 "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side in their life" -Irving Berlin- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ppp from user accounts doesn't work
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 00:05, you wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:52:22 -0600 Christian Dysthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > "Cannot open /dev/modem: Device or resource busy" using wvdial from > > user accounts. > > > > What am I missing? > > /dev/modem that was short and to the point, but a link between /dev/modem and /dev/ttySx (with x being the linux port number) the number is one might be more to the point Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] FreeBSD
There have been quite a number of these emails sent. Check the archives, since there were a lot of things said that were very good. some by myself actually.: ') Unless you really know what you're doing, I wouldn't suggest FreeBSD for a workstation, but it's an amazing server. A quick not though, there are far more packages for BSD then Linux. Especially since you can install Linux apps on BSD. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | | Hello all, | | Can someone compare/contrast FreeBSD and Linux for me? | | -- | | Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk | | David L. Steiner | Registered Linux User #262493 | Homepage www.davidlsteiner.com | Email[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]How to clone a drive
Ghost does not resize the partitions, it mirrors the partition sizes exactly. It leaves it up to you to allocate the new extra space. Dave Original Message: - From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 19 Mar 2002 20:28:37 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert]How to clone a drive Hmmm, Just had a look at the website. They say it supports all the "popular" OS's. For some reason Linux doesn't appear on the list though. I think you would need specific support for each FS (Reiser in this case) particularly when migrating to a larger HD, as you'd want to adjust partition sizes olong the way. Ghost handles this for ext2, but I don't think it sees any of the journalled FS's. Partimage may be the only solution, although as said previously, my cursory tryout was unsuccessful. As I have Ghost, I was probably not motivated enough to make it work. Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 19:47, FemmeFatale wrote: > If You need it & don't mind buying software, get Drive Copy. Its from > the guys who make Partition Magic. Great s/w so I understand, at least > one of the best hardware mags I know of that I buy uses it regularly > before testing systems. > > :) > > Femme > > > > > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 16:44, James wrote: > > > Ok I took the plunge and bought a monster drive today. Which means 3 4 gig and >one 6 gig drive can semi retire (one retired itself that's why I took the plunge) >What I'm hoping is that there is a way to clone the drive that has my / and /boot >partitions. (I'm keeping the 6 as /home for myself alone) In the windwoze world >there is ghost. Is there anything like that in Linux? Searches on Freshmeat and >google haven't turned up anything in English. (or even french or german that I can >half way muddle through) Anyone here have an answer to how to clone the drive so that >I do not have to reconfigure/install the whole mess (*grin*) all over again. I'm >kinda racing the clock on this drive as it's about 4 years old and starting to get a >bit cranky. > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] USB mouse - no hotplug?
While I was trying to make my USB mouse work (it doesnt work with usbmouse, I need hid) I discovered that I can unload both usb-[uo]hci and hid while mousedev is loaded. But if I have everything up and running, then unload hid and load it again, the mouse no longer works. I can fix this by reloading mousedev, but I would have to shut down everything that uses mouse, wouldn't I? I think this is in contrary with the flexibility one should with from USB devices. I think I have the kernel from 8.1. Well, I should check my logs and try other things. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
Thanks a LOT to all your inputs, and especially Brian Parish. I located the problem with the memtest-x86.bin (on MDK CD1 /images/ directory): Faulty memory Again thanks a lot for your quick answers! Karine -- Karine ZUERCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Fast Mandrake Downloader
Users of our fast Mandrake downloader should check they have the latest version as identified by a last change date at the top of readme.html of: 2002 03 10 05 02 GMT The downloader itself may be downloaded from: http://www.ains.net.au/~ronst/ This version deals correctly with the recent new kernel component name format. The NetMind change notification service no longer exists, so we are constructing a free mailing list to notify you of changes. To join send an email to me with the subject "Fast Mandrake Downloader" and a blank body. To unjoin do the same but with the single word "unjoin" with no whitespace in the body. The purpose of this mailing list is to provide a list of addresses to be notified of changes. It is not a discussion forum. -- Ron. [au] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux software RAID setup
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 09:51, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > I am thinking of purchasing a new computer with two hard drives of the same type > and size. I am interested in implementing a Linux software RAID0 (striping) > setup. I have a few questions on this. One more thing. Here are the mount points for the raid devices: [root@tamriel proc]# less mounts /dev/root / ext3 rw 0 0 /dev /dev devfs rw 0 0 /proc /proc proc rw 0 0 /dev/md0 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat rw 0 0 /dev/md3 /tmp ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/md5 /usr ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/md4 /var ext3 rw 0 0 /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev 0 0 The following is not necessarily related to raid per se. The system here has been arranged according to file lifetimes; in other words, it's totally configured from the standpoint of filesystem activity. In my personal scheme of things, the activity categories are as follows: 1) Sacred (root/boot and associated binaries) 2) Low (Mainly the /usr directory and binaries, but not including src and where the source rpms are compiled) 3) Medium (/var and /home. /home is moved to /var/home and symlinked to ../../home. Thus essentially "home" is on the /var partition.) 4) High (/tmp directory) The philosophy behind the filesystem activity arrangement is partly performance and mostly safety. Filesystem performance is just a neat side benefit. The higher the activity of a filesystem, the greater the probability that something can go awry in that filesystem. By dividing the system up by file lifetimes, damage is contained more efficiently and effectively. Symlinks allow us to maintain compatibility with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. Of course the partitions are placed on the hard disks where activity and performance coincide, thus further maximizing the strategy and effects. Example: The /tmp directory has the highest level of activity, consequently it also carries with it the greatest level of risk. If by chance the /tmp directory was on the root partition, a faux pas in the tmp directory would possibly put the entire root partition at risk. In the above scenario, a /tmp blowout would be totally non fatal. Just one possible scenario. The partition sizes described in the first message I sent in this thread were derived from an experimental LM81 install and hand-picked packages. The size of that custom install and the directories were assessed, taking into account the final physical resting place and possible future expanded size of all the directories, including /home. With that information in hand, the LM81 install was wiped and the configuration I sent you the first time was installed. The lion's share of the space goes to the /var partition, which physically houses /home, /usr/local, and /usr/src dirs while maintaining consistency of locality (to the FHS) via symlinks. Additionally this means we have alot of expandability possiblilities with /home without having to worry with a /home partition being outstripped spacewise because of shortsightedness. Same for game installs in /usr/local. Consolidation of space ends up being efficient but not at the expense of cramming everything together unilaterally. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No floppy on Compaq presario
It works on my linux box @ work, which is also a Compaq... Greetz, Wim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Supermount is broken on 8.1, you have to 'mount' the floppy each time. > > HTH > Dave > > Original Message: > - > From: wim [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:05:58 +0100 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [expert] No floppy on Compaq presario > > > Hello, > > I have a brand new Compaq presario and I installed MD 8.1 on it. > After a (successfull) installation, I discovered that my floppy drive is > not detected! Weird!! I could boot from it and in XP, it works fine. > > Has anyone of you had the same problem? What can I do about it? > > -- > Kind regards, > > Wim De Hul > Belgacom Belbone > > Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mobile : +32 479 952004 > Ripe : WDH25-RIPE > Registered Linux User: #260015 > > > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > -- Kind regards, Wim De Hul Belgacom Belbone Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +32 479 952004 Ripe : WDH25-RIPE Registered Linux User: #260015 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]How to clone a drive
Hmmm, Just had a look at the website. They say it supports all the "popular" OS's. For some reason Linux doesn't appear on the list though. I think you would need specific support for each FS (Reiser in this case) particularly when migrating to a larger HD, as you'd want to adjust partition sizes olong the way. Ghost handles this for ext2, but I don't think it sees any of the journalled FS's. Partimage may be the only solution, although as said previously, my cursory tryout was unsuccessful. As I have Ghost, I was probably not motivated enough to make it work. Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 19:47, FemmeFatale wrote: > If You need it & don't mind buying software, get Drive Copy. Its from > the guys who make Partition Magic. Great s/w so I understand, at least > one of the best hardware mags I know of that I buy uses it regularly > before testing systems. > > :) > > Femme > > > > > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 16:44, James wrote: > > > Ok I took the plunge and bought a monster drive today. Which means 3 4 gig and >one 6 gig drive can semi retire (one retired itself that's why I took the plunge) >What I'm hoping is that there is a way to clone the drive that has my / and /boot >partitions. (I'm keeping the 6 as /home for myself alone) In the windwoze world >there is ghost. Is there anything like that in Linux? Searches on Freshmeat and >google haven't turned up anything in English. (or even french or german that I can >half way muddle through) Anyone here have an answer to how to clone the drive so that >I do not have to reconfigure/install the whole mess (*grin*) all over again. I'm >kinda racing the clock on this drive as it's about 4 years old and starting to get a >bit cranky. > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] No floppy on Compaq presario
Supermount is broken on 8.1, you have to 'mount' the floppy each time. HTH Dave Original Message: - From: wim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:05:58 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] No floppy on Compaq presario Hello, I have a brand new Compaq presario and I installed MD 8.1 on it. After a (successfull) installation, I discovered that my floppy drive is not detected! Weird!! I could boot from it and in XP, it works fine. Has anyone of you had the same problem? What can I do about it? -- Kind regards, Wim De Hul Belgacom Belbone Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +32 479 952004 Ripe : WDH25-RIPE Registered Linux User: #260015 mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
David Guntner wrote:
>J. Grant grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
>>press ctrl+alt+PrintScr then see the items
>>
>
>Could you be a little more specific, please? If I'm reading your above
>sentence correctly, it would seem that you're telling me that when my
>system is locked up and moving my mouse doesn't get the monitor to come out
>of power-saving mode like it usually does, that I should press
>cntrl+alt+PrintScrn to have it do something. Is that correct? If so, then
>I'm having a bit of trouble understanding how pressing those keys will do
>anything on a hung system, but I'm willing to give it a try the next time
>my system seizes up.
>
>BTW, I forgot to mention in my earlier message that none of the logs show
>anything at all at the time of the system hang. Nothing in
>/var/log/kernel/{anything}, nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing in any
>other log I try to look in. Right after the reboot, I'll go straight into
>the various log files and start scrolling back through the boot-up messages
>until I get to the last entries (identified by the jump in the timestamps)
>in those logs. Not a peep.
>
> --Dave
>
>>David Guntner wrote:
>>
>>>This isn't specifically a Mandrake thing, but I'm hoping that someone here
>>>can give me some pointers to help out.
>>>
>>>I'm running ML 8.1 on my Linux box, and for the last several days, my
>>>system as just stopped. Locked up pretty completely. I'll hit the reset
>>>button to restart the system, and it will run for more-or-less 24 hours and
>>>then just halt again. The motherboard is an Epox EP-MVP3G with an AMD
>>>K6-2 CPU in it. I was running a 550MHz chip, and fell back to an older
>>>350MHz chip thinking that it might be the CPU dieing on me, but that hasn't
>>>helped. I've run Memtest-86 on the machine, and it doesn't report problems
>>>with any of my RAM SIMMs. I'm beginning to have the Creeping Feeling Of
>>>Doom that the motherboard is dieing on me, but I'd like to get a second
>>>opinion before I go out hunting down another K6-2 compatible Socket 7
>>>motherboard. Educated opinions welcomed and appreciated. :-)
>>>
>>>--Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
>>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>>>
Do you have an external connection and an ssh server?
Let's see whether it is a keyboard lockup or something else.
The ctrl-alt-printscr should sync stuff out to disk to give you a chance
to log the freeze-up.
Civilrmr
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Re: [expert]How to clone a drive
I use ghost 6 for my setup. It copies drive with ext2 and fat32 mixtures no problem. In fact it is one of the few software that I have bought, it actually does what it is meant to well. I just have a boot disk with the ghost executable on it. Simple. HTH Dave Original Message: - From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 01:47:03 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert]How to clone a drive If You need it & don't mind buying software, get Drive Copy. Its from the guys who make Partition Magic. Great s/w so I understand, at least one of the best hardware mags I know of that I buy uses it regularly before testing systems. :) Femme > > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 16:44, James wrote: > > Ok I took the plunge and bought a monster drive today. Which means 3 4 gig and >one 6 gig drive can semi retire (one retired itself that's why I took the plunge) >What I'm hoping is that there is a way to clone the drive that has my / and /boot >partitions. (I'm keeping the 6 as /home for myself alone) In the windwoze world >there is ghost. Is there anything like that in Linux? Searches on Freshmeat and >google haven't turned up anything in English. (or even french or german that I can >half way muddle through) Anyone here have an answer to how to clone the drive so that >I do not have to reconfigure/install the whole mess (*grin*) all over again. I'm >kinda racing the clock on this drive as it's about 4 years old and starting to get a >bit cranky. > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Were you in Edmonton I'd gladly help, I have xtra parts lying around collecting dust atm. Femme David Guntner wrote: > I've got 256M of RAM in the machine, to answer your (implied) question. I > don't know anyone with memory that I could borrow. :-) As I mentioned in > my earlier message, I've run Memtest-86 (you boot it up from a diskette) on > this machine, and it doesn't find any problems with memory (when I was > experiencing a problem where the machine started spontaneously rebooting > from time to time for no apparent reason, Memtest-86 identified bad memory > and when I replaced that SIMM module, the reboots stopped - so I trust this > utility). > > Thanks for the reply! > > --Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
David, Just had a friend walk in so I asked him... He had the same problem and it was because the CPU fan had gotten worn down and wasn't cooling the CPU as well as it used to (plus a lot of the k-6 fans were flaky to start) His suggestion is to (his words not mine) open up the case stick a destop fan blowing into the box. If that changes the time before it crokes... it's the fan. Or if you don't want such a crude test get one of the cylindrical(sp?) fans on the market now put it in and try it out that way. Fans cheaper and easier to find than a k-6 mobo these days. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:53:07 -0800 "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > I had the same problem once... Do a df -i and check to see if the > > inodes on one of your partitions (mine was var specifically logs) has > > filled up. Next what was it doing when it died and was it the same > > thing each time check var/log/messages to see. > > $ df -i > FilesystemInodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on > /dev/hde64294967295 0 42949672950% / > /dev/hde5 8440 5483861% /boot > none 31949 1 319481% /dev/shm > /dev/hdf74294967295 0 42949672950% /home > /dev/hde74294967295 0 42949672950% /root > /dev/hdf24294967295 0 42949672950% /tmp > /dev/hde84294967295 0 42949672950% /usr > /dev/hdf64294967295 0 42949672950% /usr/local > /dev/hde24294967295 0 42949672950% /var > > > I don't *think* anything looks like it's full there. I'm using ReiserFS on > everything except /boot, which is ext2, if it makes any difference. > > Nothing in the logs at the time of the stop, and it's happening at slightly > different times. I seem to get about 24 hours, plus or minus ~2 hours, or > runtime before it locks up again. > > --Dave > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:45:20 -0800 > > "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This isn't specifically a Mandrake thing, but I'm hoping that someone here > > > can give me some pointers to help out. > > > > > > I'm running ML 8.1 on my Linux box, and for the last several days, my > > > system as just stopped. Locked up pretty completely. I'll hit the reset > > > button to restart the system, and it will run for more-or-less 24 hours and > > > then just halt again. The motherboard is an Epox EP-MVP3G with an AMD > > > K6-2 CPU in it. I was running a 550MHz chip, and fell back to an older > > > 350MHz chip thinking that it might be the CPU dieing on me, but that hasn't > > > helped. I've run Memtest-86 on the machine, and it doesn't report problems > > > with any of my RAM SIMMs. I'm beginning to have the Creeping Feeling Of > > > Doom that the motherboard is dieing on me, but I'd like to get a second > > > opinion before I go out hunting down another K6-2 compatible Socket 7 > > > motherboard. Educated opinions welcomed and appreciated. :-) > -- > David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! > http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server > for PGP Public key > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]How to clone a drive
If You need it & don't mind buying software, get Drive Copy. Its from the guys who make Partition Magic. Great s/w so I understand, at least one of the best hardware mags I know of that I buy uses it regularly before testing systems. :) Femme > > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 16:44, James wrote: > > Ok I took the plunge and bought a monster drive today. Which means 3 4 gig and >one 6 gig drive can semi retire (one retired itself that's why I took the plunge) >What I'm hoping is that there is a way to clone the drive that has my / and /boot >partitions. (I'm keeping the 6 as /home for myself alone) In the windwoze world >there is ghost. Is there anything like that in Linux? Searches on Freshmeat and >google haven't turned up anything in English. (or even french or german that I can >half way muddle through) Anyone here have an answer to how to clone the drive so that >I do not have to reconfigure/install the whole mess (*grin*) all over again. I'm >kinda racing the clock on this drive as it's about 4 years old and starting to get a >bit cranky. > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ppp from user accounts doesn't work
First ... Sorry for attaching this to another thread... brain fart. Second. I'll
look at partimage. Since the original drive is Rieser I may be limited.
Thanks
James
On 19 Mar 2002 19:10:30 +1100
Brian Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well Ghost is not just for the Windows world. It certainly handles
> ext2. You may like to contact me off list for more specific info on
> that.
>
> There is also partimage, which I think is supposed to handle Reiser and
> maybe others. I couldn't get it to recognise any of mine though, but I
> didn't perservere beyond a quick look.
>
> Brian
>
> On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 16:44, James wrote:
> > Ok I took the plunge and bought a monster drive today. Which means 3 4 gig and
>one 6 gig drive can semi retire (one retired itself that's why I took the plunge)
>What I'm hoping is that there is a way to clone the drive that has my / and /boot
>partitions. (I'm keeping the 6 as /home for myself alone) In the windwoze world
>there is ghost. Is there anything like that in Linux? Searches on Freshmeat and
>google haven't turned up anything in English. (or even french or german that I can
>half way muddle through) Anyone here have an answer to how to clone the drive so that
>I do not have to reconfigure/install the whole mess (*grin*) all over again. I'm
>kinda racing the clock on this drive as it's about 4 years old and starting to get a
>bit cranky.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:52:22 -0600
> > Christian Dysthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I can use ppp being root on my Mandrake 8.2 RC1 box, but not from
> > > user accounts. I am using wvdial. I was able to do this before I
> > > upgraded from 8.1, but I do not remember what I did to make it work
> > > from user accounts on 8.1. I have tried this:
> > >
> > > a+rx /usr/sbin/{pppd,chat}
> > > chmod a+rw /dev/tts/LT0 (My Lucent based WinModem)
> > > chmod u+s /usr/sbin/pppd
> > >
> > > but it doesn't work. I get the message:
> > >
> > > "Cannot open /dev/modem: Device or resource busy" using wvdial from
> > > user accounts.
> > >
> > > What am I missing?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > --
> > > Christian Dysthe
> > > http://www.dysthe.net
> > > ICQ: 3945810
> > > Registered Linux User #228949
> > >
> > > "Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side
> > >in their life"
> > >
> > > -Irving Berlin-
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>
>
>
>
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Memtest was a good first step. Sounds like it's now time for cpuburn. That is likely to reveal what memtest cannot and also completely divorces you from the OS in diagnosing the problem. Google for cpuburn and you'll hit it first time. Tom Brinkman recommended it the other day, so it comes with high endorsement. Here's his orginal message: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg91074.html Good luck Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 19:03, David Guntner wrote: > Jonathan Dlouhy grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > Dave, it definetly sounds like a hardware problem. It sounds like > > something gets heated up after 24 hours then fails. It could be a one > > of several things. Don't flame me for this, but, have you tried a > > different OS to see if it does the same thing? > > That would require an awful *lot* of work to install something else, which > is not exactly something I'm too keen on right now... :-) However, as it > *has* been runing Mandrake reliably for many months (close to a year) now, > I don't think it's an OS thing. Not a flame, just some info. :-) > > > If so, then it's got to be a hardware problem. I would investigate the > > RAM, then the motherboard. I don't know how much ram you have, but if > > you could beg, borrow or steal some other ram, swap yours out then > > run it for a couple of days. If it doesn't lock up, then I guess we > > know the problem. If it still does it it's time to look at the mb. > > After that I'm out of ideas. > > I've got 256M of RAM in the machine, to answer your (implied) question. I > don't know anyone with memory that I could borrow. :-) As I mentioned in > my earlier message, I've run Memtest-86 (you boot it up from a diskette) on > this machine, and it doesn't find any problems with memory (when I was > experiencing a problem where the machine started spontaneously rebooting > from time to time for no apparent reason, Memtest-86 identified bad memory > and when I replaced that SIMM module, the reboots stopped - so I trust this > utility). > > Thanks for the reply! > > --Dave > -- > David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! > http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server > for PGP Public key > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Just to throw my .02 into this: I have an IBM PC that does something similar. My wife & kids use it. After it has been running a while, it just locks up, for no real reason. The keyboard & mouse simply stop responding. The only way out is to throw the big red switch. It currently has Win98 on it. I also tried Win 2k, and Linux as a test to see if it was the OS. No change. In at least my case, it's a hardware (bios?) problem. That box's days are numbered. It's on the replace list. It's an older box anyway. Ric On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 00:03, David Guntner wrote: > Jonathan Dlouhy grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > Dave, it definetly sounds like a hardware problem. It sounds like > > something gets heated up after 24 hours then fails. It could be a one > > of several things. Don't flame me for this, but, have you tried a > > different OS to see if it does the same thing? > > That would require an awful *lot* of work to install something else, which > is not exactly something I'm too keen on right now... :-) However, as it > *has* been runing Mandrake reliably for many months (close to a year) now, > I don't think it's an OS thing. Not a flame, just some info. :-) > > > If so, then it's got to be a hardware problem. I would investigate the > > RAM, then the motherboard. I don't know how much ram you have, but if > > you could beg, borrow or steal some other ram, swap yours out then > > run it for a couple of days. If it doesn't lock up, then I guess we > > know the problem. If it still does it it's time to look at the mb. > > After that I'm out of ideas. > > I've got 256M of RAM in the machine, to answer your (implied) question. I > don't know anyone with memory that I could borrow. :-) As I mentioned in > my earlier message, I've run Memtest-86 (you boot it up from a diskette) on > this machine, and it doesn't find any problems with memory (when I was > experiencing a problem where the machine started spontaneously rebooting > from time to time for no apparent reason, Memtest-86 identified bad memory > and when I replaced that SIMM module, the reboots stopped - so I trust this > utility). > > Thanks for the reply! > > --Dave > -- > David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! > http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server > for PGP Public key > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
