Re: [expert] Fwd for Mark Weaver (testing mail list server too)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ed tharp wanted us to know: I've been trying to send this to the expert list now for a day or so but can't seem to get any message though to this list. At the moment I'm running a traceroute to the Mandrake mailserver and coming up empty. It got halfway through and just hit a brick wall. Their network must be infested with worms. It was something affecting much of L.A. I couldn't get to my server either for a period of at least 5 hours. Interestingly enough, from my house I could ssh to a customer's machine then could get to my webserver, but couldn't go direct from my house to my webserver. Since the mail servers are here and connect to one of the same providers that my provider does, I'd say it was a peering problem that developed and was fixed within a few hours. - -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Two things prevent you from having| | http://www.mrball.net | sex with women: sunlight sobriety | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Tom Leykis | Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/RblZIBT1264ScBURAgo5AJ9KBe1P58nldyahqf5Pm6hpgg0PigCZAbeJ VqTaRwKPXcQQuV0VFi1gwbk= =RqAV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Wilson wanted us to know: My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). I'd guess that msec is running in the middle of the night and changing permissions on some file or socket or device node. - -- Blue skies... Todd Public key: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc scandal cannonball: you gonna wear your ferengi ears? :) Morph scandal: everyone knows its the year of the Romulan..*slap* scandal trust me to show up unfashionably dressed to a scifi convention Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.07 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/Rbh+IBT1264ScBURAkORAJ9xXk3UoRlbyk8EZltpHFR+iFHVFwCg0NhI VbhPfOiOcCwiDC0E+GSbCYU= =144z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Friday 22 Aug 2003 7:30 am, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Wilson wanted us to know: My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). I'd guess that msec is running in the middle of the night and changing permissions on some file or socket or device node. Could be, Todd. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 10:44 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:57, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not expired (for a finished system notification sound, for example). Setting this to one second made the delay that much shorter, so I have changed that setting ever since. I am thinking that apps that are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from this change but not sure exactly what is doing what. FWIW. Rolf That's a thought, Rolf. I'll shorten that time. Anne might be the whole problem, since mine is unchecked and I don't have the problem I changed it to 1. If it still gives a problem I'll try removing it altogether before trying anything else, though I'm reluctant to do that, as I understand that it can be a real problemif it isn't forced to release. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Perl question - include?
I've searched the perl man pages fruitlessly, so let me ask of all you perl enthusiasts: How do you do such a simple thing as to include another perl source file at some point in a perl source file? No, include doesn't work. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Password Question
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 07:44, Lawson, Jim wrote: Not true Anne if you implement security in windows everyone is not a admin. But The fact that knnopix can access any windows file system is dangerous to me to run Windoze. I read an article the other day that said mandrake 9.1 and other stuff can easily reset Windoze passwords. Evewn the administrator one. I don't like this. this is why I am asking this question. I happen to love Linux. You don't have to convince me. I have to convince my bosses. IT Director. That is why I am asking these questions to the expert group so I have more evidence that Windoze has to go. -Original Message- From: Frankie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] Password Question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 8:39 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] Password Question Anne it is from a secruity postion. I want to find out ow much more secure Linux is than windows. Well that is easy... 1. A file in linux is not executable until you tell it its executable. A file in Doze IS exectuable by virtue of having an executable extension. (.bat, .com, .exe etc). 2. In windows, everyone is the administrator, so anyone can totally trash the system. In Linux, everyone is a user, so can only trash their own user space. 3. literally thousands of virus's/worms/trojans have been written for windows. Literally a tiny handful of test virus/worms have been written for linux. 4. Windoze is all open from scratch, and its up to the user to tighten it up. Linux is by default much tighter then windows, and its easy to tighten it up more. (for example with msec on mandrkae.) As for the password issue, win95 provides practically no password protection at all, and what little it does provide is easy enough to circumvent. NT/2000/XP/2003 are much better in that regard, but a ton of flaws have been found to get around them as well. (for one thing, apparently you can use a win2000 CD to access XP partition. So, take your pick.. hundreds of government bodies that are switching to linux en mass after years of windows dominance is a telling indicator of where their faith is.. Having said that, If you take a winXP or 2000 system, fully patch it.. get rid of IIS, IE and outlook Express. (replace with apache and mozilla browser and mozilla mail for windows respectively) and run a firewall and antivir program or two would be pretty secure comparitively as well. Still not as tight as a well concieved linux install, but pretty good none the less. But we are a linux list so I will not push you in that direction. Also, keep in mind that the M$ version will cost you a whole heap more. regards Franki Franki, Where windows is a lot more fragile than Linux at the command line there are a few things I have fun with.. Drop to DOS and you can remove pwl files which are the windows version of /etc/password. Not it may not give you access. But it sure does cause problems. One thing to note. If you give me console and access to a cdrom and or floppy. I can on about 90% of the systems in either Linux or Windows, begin to access things I shouldn't be able to. Note that this takes bringing the computer down, then back up. In a windows world watching for reboots would be an effort in frustration, since although 2000 and XP are a lot more stable reboots are still a normal course of business in dealing with windows related problems for the user. In Linux the user should rarely reboot. So watching for those could be a security boon. What's more important would be things like. External security. Hardware costs (an older 750mhz 128MB ram box makes an excellent file server for groups or divisions, or heck it makes a great desktop. Also the need for monitors etc goes down. Since you only need a shell to maintain servers. So the company can spread out capital expenditure over years instead of months.) IT costs (one Linux IT person per 30 boxes vs one MCSE per 10 boxes.) Productivity loses. (Less time spent rebooting means more time working.) Monitoring. (compare Linux logging to XP) System integration into a windows world. (They can slowly replace boxes and still keep intreroperability.) Data Integrity.(Yes windows has a trash can but Linux is better suited for backups both full and partial, as well as restores. In Unix backups are built in not added on.) Networking (I recently had a pIII 650mhz box with 64 megs ram survive a slashdoting, and this didn't affect any of the other sites on the box.) Finally talk about remote admin/viewing. Show them what can be done from a shell over ssh. Show them VNC (people around here are just starting to understand the idea of 4 boxes 4 people and a shared
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Friday 22 Aug 2003 1:19 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 21 August 2003 02:23 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I don't have anything at all about ALSA. I have two entries concerning External Midi Device. As I told Steffen, the second (selected one) looks absolutely normal, showing EMU10K1 Midi, but the first one has [EMAIL PROTECTED]@e - External Midi Port - but instead of o there is a small square. This is an Audigy Platinum, btw, in case that makes any difference (don't see why it should). I'm puzzled about this ALSA bit. Why am I getting no reference to ALSA? Any ideas? There are two different sound driver architectures for Linux. OSS and ALSA. I use Alsa because I read that OSS is older and supposedly not as good. You might be using OSS in which case, you can install Alsa and you should be able to switch over to it and your sound problems might improve. My own sound card was originally detected and set to OSS but I switched it, again because I read that Alsa was better. I understand that, but alsa is installed. As you found, the default is to use oss. How did you switch it to use alsa? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Perl question - include?
try: require filename.pl; rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Stodden Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 2:45 PM To: Mandrake Expert Subject: [expert] Perl question - include? I've searched the perl man pages fruitlessly, so let me ask of all you perl enthusiasts: How do you do such a simple thing as to include another perl source file at some point in a perl source file? No, include doesn't work. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fwd for Mark Weaver (testing mail list server too)
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 23:34, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ed tharp wanted us to know: I've been trying to send this to the expert list now for a day or so but can't seem to get any message though to this list. At the moment I'm running a traceroute to the Mandrake mailserver and coming up empty. It got halfway through and just hit a brick wall. Their network must be infested with worms. It was something affecting much of L.A. I couldn't get to my server either for a period of at least 5 hours. Interestingly enough, from my house I could ssh to a customer's machine then could get to my webserver, but couldn't go direct from my house to my webserver. Since the mail servers are here and connect to one of the same providers that my provider does, I'd say it was a peering problem that developed and was fixed within a few hours. - -- Todd, QWEST Communications here in San Jose had a 3 hour total outage today. This may have had something to do with your problems. Not sure. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Business/ap20030821_1749.html For some limited info (E-Bay was completely off line) Since this is a backbone level site it's a pretty good chance that it had at least something to do with the problem. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Perl question - include?
You can also use the -P option when you invoke perl (#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w -P), which make it invoke cpp before parsing the script. #include statements will then be executed. [ but less pretty than 'require' statement, purists would say !! ] Erick. Frankie wrote: try: require filename.pl; rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron Stodden Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 2:45 PM To: Mandrake Expert Subject: [expert] Perl question - include? I've searched the perl man pages fruitlessly, so let me ask of all you perl enthusiasts: How do you do such a simple thing as to include another perl source file at some point in a perl source file? No, "include" doesn't work. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] I don't know how to head this
because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem. I am posting messages to the lists that never get through. On the 15th I posted 3 to the expert list and only one got through. On the 14th 1 out of 4 appeared (and this is embarrassing because it looks as though you can't be bothered to answer those who try to help you). On the 17th I posted a message to the list headed 'What the ...' raising the problem, but sympa bounced it, saying that it appeared to contain commands. In the bounce message there is an invitation to reply to sympa-request if you are not satisfied. I did that, but I've heard nothing and the message was not released to the list. This week, Tuesday was ok. Wednesday, all my messages to expert got through, but only 6/8 to newbie. On Thursday 11/12 to expert got through and 1/4 to newbie. Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do about it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 02:53, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 10:44 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:57, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not expired (for a finished system notification sound, for example). Setting this to one second made the delay that much shorter, so I have changed that setting ever since. I am thinking that apps that are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from this change but not sure exactly what is doing what. FWIW. Rolf That's a thought, Rolf. I'll shorten that time. Anne might be the whole problem, since mine is unchecked and I don't have the problem I changed it to 1. If it still gives a problem I'll try removing it altogether before trying anything else, though I'm reluctant to do that, as I understand that it can be a real problemif it isn't forced to release. Anne I wonder what sort of problem,, as mine has been set like that for since about a week after 9.1 came out, adn I have not experienced any sound problems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Perl question - include?
Frankie wrote:
try:
require filename.pl;
rgds
Franki
That clue gave the solution.
But:
1. Syntax is
require ("filename");
2. Unfortunately, my $whatever definitions do not survive transition
into the required (included) file.
In my case that was easily overcome by shifting those definitions into
the required file, which means they probably don't survive transition
back into the main program, which is in my case, rather good (the
reduced scope is safer).
Thanks!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron Stodden
Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 2:45 PM
To: Mandrake Expert
Subject: [expert] Perl question - include?
I've searched the perl man pages fruitlessly, so let me ask of all you
perl enthusiasts:
How do you do such a simple thing as to include another perl source file
at some point in a perl source file?
No, "include" doesn't work.
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Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Friday 22 August 2003 02:55 am, Anne Wilson wrote: I understand that, but alsa is installed. As you found, the default is to use oss. How did you switch it to use alsa? Just to make sure that I don't give you the wrong advice, I would suggest following the fairly complete instructions here: http://lulu.esm.rochester.edu/kevine/turnkey/alsa.html -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Password Question
Thanks for t his great answer. So All are that easy to change. Unless there are other precautions take to stop this. -Original Message- From: Jim C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Password Question As for linux being able to bypass windows passwords, if it can, then its likely the same thing would be doable from any OS that can read NTFS.. not just linux, so you might see the same thing from freedos or any *BSD variant in the future. The /etc/passwd file in Linux is just as accessible. Boot from a disk and it is easy to change or reset passwords. Most people want to have this capability however, just in case. Any resulting secureity hole is easily managed by physical security (i.e. lock up the machine). In extreme cases, one might add a BIOS password and turn off booting from CD/Floppy, however. This should work for both OS's. Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Hard disk error: how to locate from sector #, how to proceed?
I have had my laptop for a year and a half and now the first hard disk
error has appeared. My syslog gives me ``nice'' messages like the
following (repeated):
Aug 22 07:22:51 pan kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete
DataRequest Error }
Aug 22 07:22:51 pan kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x01 { AddrMarkNotFound },
LBAsect=23887713, sector=850440
I have gone through the syslog and the sectors that are reported bad
are the following:
LBAsect=11615376, sector=3679200
LBAsect=11615376, sector=3679203
LBAsect=23236658, sector=199376
LBAsect=23236658, sector=199385
LBAsect=23236670, sector=199397
LBAsect=23887713, sector=850440
LBAsect=23887721, sector=850448
LBAsect=23889817, sector=852544
which appears relatively confined. Using diskdrake it appears that
the first LBA sector is on /dev/hda6 (it listed it's starting sector
as 7,936,173 with /dev/hda7 starting at 18,217,773) and the rest are
on /dev/hda10 (which starts at 23,037,273).
My question now is how do I proceed? Should I backup the data,
reformat the disks and then restore the backup.
Thanks
/Peter
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Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this
Am Freitag, 22. August 2003 11:35 schrieb Anne Wilson: because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem. I don't know who said that initially, but I could say this every day: Sympa sucks! [... missing mails ] Anne that is on all mandrake lists. It is really annoying. I'm on expert-en, expert-de, newbie-de cooker and cooker-i18n. on 4 of the 5 lists I had this problem. I don't think that they do not know about it. And I don't know who is responsible. Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do about it. Maybe Sobig.F gets the servers down ? For me it looks like a server overload. Some mails take several hours to make it trough, some mails never do come trough, some mails are in the archiv but only half the people got it, some mails don't come trough at all. I got 40 Mails from cooker an 90% of that were bugzilla mails. that does not sound right to me either (knowing that there were 700+ Mails in pre 9.1 Cooker over a day) . Lets hope they get it fixed soon :( Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
test: Re: [expert] Fwd for Mark Weaver (testing mail list server too)
I have had the same problem getting through for the past few months -- David C. Rankin Rankin * Bertin, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax - Original Message - From: Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Fwd for Mark Weaver (testing mail list server too) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ed tharp wanted us to know: I've been trying to send this to the expert list now for a day or so but can't seem to get any message though to this list. At the moment I'm running a traceroute to the Mandrake mailserver and coming up empty. It got halfway through and just hit a brick wall. Their network must be infested with worms. It was something affecting much of L.A. I couldn't get to my server either for a period of at least 5 hours. Interestingly enough, from my house I could ssh to a customer's machine then could get to my webserver, but couldn't go direct from my house to my webserver. Since the mail servers are here and connect to one of the same providers that my provider does, I'd say it was a peering problem that developed and was fixed within a few hours. - -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Two things prevent you from having| | http://www.mrball.net | sex with women: sunlight sobriety | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Tom Leykis | Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/RblZIBT1264ScBURAgo5AJ9KBe1P58nldyahqf5Pm6hpgg0PigCZAbeJ VqTaRwKPXcQQuV0VFi1gwbk= =RqAV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Cups is broken...
Hi All, Of late I've not been able to get Cups going. For the longest time I've not had a lick of trouble with it. Recently though, its been miserable and I haven't a clue as to why. I've got a lot of this going on in my /var/log/syslog: cupsd: cupsd: Child exited with status 99! That happenes every time I attempt to start the service. Anyone else experiencing this, and how have you dealt with it to solve the problem? -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this
On Friday 22 Aug 2003 12:36 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote: Am Freitag, 22. August 2003 11:35 schrieb Anne Wilson: because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem. I don't know who said that initially, but I could say this every day: Sympa sucks! [... missing mails ] Anne that is on all mandrake lists. It is really annoying. I'm on expert-en, expert-de, newbie-de cooker and cooker-i18n. on 4 of the 5 lists I had this problem. I don't think that they do not know about it. And I don't know who is responsible. Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do about it. Maybe Sobig.F gets the servers down ? For me it looks like a server overload. Some mails take several hours to make it trough, some mails never do come trough, some mails are in the archiv but only half the people got it, some mails don't come trough at all. I got 40 Mails from cooker an 90% of that were bugzilla mails. that does not sound right to me either (knowing that there were 700+ Mails in pre 9.1 Cooker over a day) . Lets hope they get it fixed soon :( Steffen There has to be a reason that they stick with Sympa, when everyone else seems to have changed to Mailman. I had hoped that the recent server upgrade would get rid of the problem for us, but obviously not. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Cups is broken...
Hi All, Of late I've not been able to get Cups going. For the longest time I've not had a lick of trouble with it. Recently though, its been miserable and I haven't a clue as to why. I've got a lot of this going on in my /var/log/syslog: cupsd: cupsd: Child exited with status 99! That happenes every time I attempt to start the service. Anyone else experiencing this, and how have you dealt with it to solve the problem? -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Password Question
On Friday 22 August 2003 08:33 am, Lawson, Jim wrote: Except that /etc/password doesn't have any passwords in it, it's the /etc/shadow file that holds the passwords. RC Thanks for t his great answer. So All are that easy to change. Unless there are other precautions take to stop this. -Original Message- From: Jim C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Password Question As for linux being able to bypass windows passwords, if it can, then its likely the same thing would be doable from any OS that can read NTFS.. not just linux, so you might see the same thing from freedos or any *BSD variant in the future. The /etc/passwd file in Linux is just as accessible. Boot from a disk and it is easy to change or reset passwords. Most people want to have this capability however, just in case. Any resulting secureity hole is easily managed by physical security (i.e. lock up the machine). In extreme cases, one might add a BIOS password and turn off booting from CD/Floppy, however. This should work for both OS's. Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] I don't know how to head this
I doubt it is sobig.. at least that would not take mandrakes sympa down since it will not accept any mail from sobig machines because their dns would not be setup properly.. Heck, its hard enough to get legit mail onto this list, let alone prefab smtp engines of virus's.. I am on the wget list, and we had a head of sobig.F virus mail come through, (without their attachments.) I suspect that Sobig.F is the worst mailing virus every in terms of prevalence. rgsd Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steffen Barszus Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this Am Freitag, 22. August 2003 11:35 schrieb Anne Wilson: because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem. I don't know who said that initially, but I could say this every day: Sympa sucks! [... missing mails ] Anne that is on all mandrake lists. It is really annoying. I'm on expert-en, expert-de, newbie-de cooker and cooker-i18n. on 4 of the 5 lists I had this problem. I don't think that they do not know about it. And I don't know who is responsible. Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do about it. Maybe Sobig.F gets the servers down ? For me it looks like a server overload. Some mails take several hours to make it trough, some mails never do come trough, some mails are in the archiv but only half the people got it, some mails don't come trough at all. I got 40 Mails from cooker an 90% of that were bugzilla mails. that does not sound right to me either (knowing that there were 700+ Mails in pre 9.1 Cooker over a day) . Lets hope they get it fixed soon :( Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:36:24 +0200 Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe Sobig.F gets the servers down ? For me it looks like a server overload. Some mails take several hours to make it trough, some mails never do come trough, some mails are in the archiv but only half the people got it, some mails don't come trough at all. I got 40 Mails from cooker an 90% of that were bugzilla mails. that does not sound right to me either (knowing that there were 700+ Mails in pre 9.1 Cooker over a day) . Lets hope they get it fixed soon :( To add to the problem/strangeness I run multiple systems on my home lan and use sylpheed-claws on all system. Mail is set to remain on server for 2 days before it is deleted. There have been occasions where I have sent postings to some list or other and it never appears on my main system. But if I go to 1 of the 2ndary system and retrieve mail through it the posting Does appear on that system. Go figure... Charles -- You cannot see the wood for the trees. -- John Heywood - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-0.5.2tmb_mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] Cups is broken...
Hi All, Of late I've not been able to get Cups going. For the longest time I've not had a lick of trouble with it. Recently though, its been miserable and I haven't a clue as to why. I've got a lot of this going on in my /var/log/syslog: cupsd: cupsd: Child exited with status 99! That happenes every time I attempt to start the service. Anyone else experiencing this, and how have you dealt with it to solve the problem? -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hardware question..
El Vie 22 Ago 2003 00:07, Larry Sword escribió: Alfredo C. López wrote: HI! We have a cluster of machines. I made a soft to boot machines without harddisk with linux-mandrake trough the network. So.. till now the motherboards could be used without a vga card conected to the motherboard. So we put all the machines in a shelf and forget about them.. :) But we buy some new motherboards model MSI 845PE Max3 and I couldn't find anywhere in the bios an option to make the bios ignores that they don't have a vga card, keyboard, and other stuff present. So.. if someone could send me some hints about this .. How about in the first panel of the BIOS screen, Main, does it ave a Halt On for setting the value not to halt for none or such? Not such option. I remember the old BIOS's have that option (at least the microstar that I use with some durons.. ) It couldn't be. I dont want to buy 12 agp cards and have them in a shelf Larry -- = Lic. Alfredo Carlos López INIFTA - UNLP Phone: +54-221-425 7430 Instituto de InvestigacionesFax: +54-221-425 4642 Fisicoquímicas Teórica y Aplicada. Suc. 4 C.C. 16 1900 La Plata, Argentina Calle 68 nro.74 (e118/119) Dto. 15Phone: +54-221-423 6240 1900 La Plata, Argentina Cell-Phone: +54-221-(15) 455 0141 = One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important. - Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Perl question - include?
Yes,
Nowdays, I
give all my external files their own package namespace.
For my config
files, I put a sub in it.. a sub contains all the config variables, and
returns all the config values, which I assign to the variables in the main
program.
Ie (in the
mainscript file body):
#!/use/bin/perl -T
use
strict;
use
config_package;
my ($var1,
$var2, $var3, $var4, $etc) = config_package::config_sub();
That way the
scope is whatever you want it to be..
For that
matter, you could pull the lot into a scoped hash and use them as you need
them.
As an added
benefit, its very mod_perl friendly.
regards
Franki
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Behalf Of Ron StoddenSent: Friday, 22 August 2003 7:58
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [expert]
Perl question - include?Frankie wrote:
try:
require filename.pl;
rgds
FrankiThat clue gave the
solution.But:1. Syntax is require
("filename");2. Unfortunately, my $whatever definitions
do not survive transition into the required (included) file.In my case
that was easily overcome by shifting those definitions into the required file,
which means they probably don't survive transition back into the main program,
which is in my case, rather good (the reduced scope is
safer).Thanks!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron Stodden
Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 2:45 PM
To: Mandrake Expert
Subject: [expert] Perl question - include?
I've searched the perl man pages fruitlessly, so let me ask of all you
perl enthusiasts:
How do you do such a simple thing as to include another perl source file
at some point in a perl source file?
No, "include" doesn't work.
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[expert] OT - for shell mongers: how _not_ to list a file
hi,
I have a directory that contains several hundred files and I want to
copy them all except _one_ file.
This sounds so easy yet still I am stuck or blind or stupid. Is there no
not operator in bash?
If it were, some construct like the thing below could then list all files
in /opt/too_many_files except no_not_this_one:
% ls -l /opt/too_many_files/*{!no_not_this_one}
Yes, I know this doesn't work, but is there any other efficient way to do
this in bash?
happy hacking
udo
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