[expert] ML7.2, ML8.0b1 and LILO
I installed ML8.0b1 and my system slowed to a crawl. 19 minutes from boot to login screen, 30 minutes from login screen to usable desktop. Not good. Since I picked the RECOMMENDED install, ML8.0 overwrote the LILO config with its own version (I was never given a choice). I modified lilo.conf in ML8.0 to include a stanza for my ML7.2 partition (/dev/hda1) and rebooted to it. It ran extremely slow as well. I began to think that my hardware hit might have broken in some fashion. However, while I was booted into ML7.2 I reran LILO with the lilo.conf from my ML7.2 installation. When I rebooted my system was back up to it's old speed. So I immediately rebooted to the ML8.0 partition, /dev/hda6. A few things became evident. (1) The ML8.0 boot sequence was now similar to the ML7.2 boot. That is to say lots of lines ending in "[OK]" instead of the outlined Penguin against the blue background and marching icons. (2) It was running **much** faster. (3) During the boot of ML8.0 I saw several lines where some sort of error was encountered and the error printout mentioned kernel 2.2.17 from my ML7.2 installation. However once the system was up it seemed fine for what little testing I did with it. I should add one other point. During the install a hardware "change" was discovered involving the mouse. I had not changed the mouse it Mandrake decided that something had changed in this area. My ML7.4 lilo.conf also has a stanza for my Debian partition. Once, having booted from LILO, while I was trying to an "apt-get install" a package I got all sort of dependency errors. And again, the errors were related to the Mandrake kernel "2.2.1.mdk". So the questions. (1) What could have caused ML8.0 to run *so* slowly (over an order of magnitude"? Any guesses anyone? (2) What am I missing in my hacks of lilo.conf (or perhaps in how I laid out the partitions) such that any partition I am booting to seems to be (in some way) cross threaded with /dev/hda1 (ML7.2). At this point I have to say that, while I have read as much info on LILO as I could find, I have not spent a lot of time hacking with it. Thanks and cheers, -rick winmail.dat
RE: [expert] Linux Mandrake 8.0
No release date but all the other info is available on the Mandrake home page! -rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thibaut Colar Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linux Mandrake 8.0 I heard that mandrake8 will have 2.1 for sure (don't know for the kernel though) supposed to be released end of april At 03:49 PM 2/28/2001 +0800, you wrote: Sorry if I am repeating this question..I have not been following the list for quite sometime.. Can somebody tell me date for release of Mandrake 8.0? Will it have KDE 2.1, kernel 2.4.2?? Can't wait to get my hands on the official release :)..I am sure it will be another quality product from the Mandrake team Cheers Aravind S
RE: [expert] Digital cameras
Bit off topic, but... I don't know about the Linux side of things but I bought an Olympus 360DL for work locally for $300. Absolutely fell in love with it and went and bought a 460DL off the Web for $334 (it was $399 locally). The 460 has a 3x optical zoom and I like the control layout a little better. The both cameras use the same software on the host side. As mentioned below, they come with an 8Mb memory card, but you can also buy 16/32/64MB cards as well. They each have 1.3 Mega-pixels 1290x960 pixels at highest resolution. Some other features: flash with red-eye prevention, self-timer, ability to delete single pictures or the whole card, control exposure and simulate different film speeds, autofocus, two modes of light metering, yada, yada. I bought mine from http://www.thecameraclub.com. If I remember correctly the 360DL was on the order of $250/$260 or so. On a "social" note... I used to be very active in photography, but got tired of lugging stuff around. I also got tired of trips to the drugstore to get the film developed. Now I take the camera with me at the drop of a hat. Since the photos are cheap and quick I take a lot more pictures and distribute them to family and friends. My one regret? That I didn't pay the extra for the 490DL (about $440) and get 2.11 Mega-pixels since to my eye it seems like the 1.3mp runs out of steam around 5'x7" size, but that's just a personal bias. -rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Digital cameras On Tuesday 14 November 2000 06:25 am, Richard Humphrey wrote: I am planning on buying an inexpensive Digital Camera pretty soon. Can anyone recommend one that works well with Linux Mandrake? Richard Humphrey I've had a Olympus 360DL (~$270 delivered) for several months. Works great with Gphoto and 7.0, 7.1, 7.2. MOF, better than in Windoze with the software that came with it ;) Takes 122, 640x480 good quality pics, or 35 at a much higher resolution. 8mb memory card, camera d/l's via a serial port. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] Problems with KDE2 login
go to /etc/sysconfig/desktop and replace KDE by GNOME.. and u'll get the GNOME login screen!.. from ther eu can login and it'll by default take u to KDE 2.. How is this different than changing the "session type" on the login dialog? My choices there are a whole bunch of different managers! I did login in with Gnome and see that /etc/sysconfig/desktop is still set to KDE. So does this parameter determine the default desktop? The login screen seemed to remember my choice as soon as I typed in my name. also remember not to start the KDE screensaver.. it won't let u login again ;).. so i am using xscreensaver from konsole! If you've set your environment to Gnome, why would it use the KDE screensaver? Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Development Environment: Gnome or KDE?
I apologize for asking a question that probably borders on religious, but
would love to get some kind of feedback on the following. Hope it doesn't
come across as bogus.
Mandrake defaults to KDE on install, but includes Gnome.
Is there a strong feeling within the Linux (or at least Mandrake distro)
about which is the "long term best bet"? (Too early to tell" is an
acceptable answer!)
My reason for asking is strictly selfish. If I am going to invest time in
learning an Apps development suite does one or the other look better over
the long term? I am learning this for the "joy" of it I do not work in the
Linux/Unix arena.
My background is one of having developed a number of engineering tools under
(then) Digital Unix using Motif. That was 5/6 years ago. Since then I have
been away from Unix/Linux.
In reading "GTK+ / Gnome Application Development", by Havoc Pennington it
seems like the Gnome environment is close to what I remember doing under
Motif. ("close" is relative here folks!!) Picking up close to where I left
off is very tempting.
On the other hand, I am also reading "KDE Application Development" by Uwe
Thiem. It seems a fair bit different and much more aligned with the C++
"way of life". Learning something new has its advantages too.
Further throwing mud into the decision is a vaguely remembered reference in
some Linux mag a few months ago about Gnome coming on strong and being the
eventual "winner".
Not trying to stir up emotions here, just trying to get some idea of the
better way to go since I am starting with a clean slate for practical
purposes.
Thanks,
-rick
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[expert] RE: [MandrakeForum] Install - CD won't eject for 2nd disk
This is just a wild guess at best! I saw something similar trying to peruse the CD on a running 7.1 system. I was *really* exasperated by the fact that the eject button didn't work. Finally I got a pushpin (like you would use for a cork board (didn't have a paper clip which has a longer reach)). I pushed gingerly expecting the kind of resistance that I have found when doing this on un-powered systems. Plus I was afraid of working against a powered up mechanism. In my particular case I found no resistance but rather the CD drawer light came on and the shelf came out. Perhaps there was an optical sensor or some sort. So you might want to try that. Again, you usually need to use a paper clip that has been unbent, but that's what that little hole in the front is actually for. Just go easy. Cheers, -rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MandrakeForum] Install - CD won't eject for 2nd disk Install - CD won't eject for 2nd disk (http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/article.php3?sid=2928082739) Robetr Maynord writes "I have been installing 7.1 on machines at the elementary school where I work. I use the Mandrake Deluxe version CDs. The problem is: on half of the machines, the first install CD does not eject, so I am unable to insert the 2nd CD. I have tried different CD drives (all ATAPI). On some machines (P200) it works. On other machines (IBM P300) the CD won't eject. If I use "cancel" to finish the install, the printer files aren't loaded. Any ideas?? Robert " Answer: This is a bug in 7.1 installer - If there isn't enough RAM to switch the ramdisk, installer will not be able to switch CD-s. You will see it on every machine with less than 40 MB. Solution is to choose single-CD instalation. FYI:in 7.2 DrakX installer will automatically detect low-RAM machines and switch to single CD instalation mode. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
