Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

2002-11-28 Thread Ron Stodden
Philip Webb wrote:

021128 Ron Stodden wrote:


Reminder.   No response to the below serious situation:


I have successfully installed 9.0 on three machines. Two are all OK.
On the third, Linux runs, as initiated by XOSL or by its floppy,
but always after exit the active flag on the C drive
(which contains XOSL) is clobbered, leaving an unbootable machine
which needs an MSDOS FDISK run from the Windows startup floppy to fix it.
This machine is Pentium 2, 300MHz, 64MB, 20GHB hard disk
and runs Windows 98 faultlessly.
I have installed two 9.0s, expert, all selected except servers, LILO,
in different partitions on this machine and both have this problem.
Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason
to look at the active flag in the MBR on C:? Let alone change it?




since no-one else has responded, maybe a further question:
why don't you simply use Lilo to start Linux (you mention XOSL)?
ie at boot, Lilo offers you the usual screen of choices  you choose one.


Thanks for the response, but in this case I cannot see any relevance. 
Selecting Linux in XOSL calls the LILO choices screen with Linux 
pre-selected.   I hit Enter.

The clobbering of the C active flag is done somewhere in the Linux 
runtime.   I could try setting up GRUB instead of lilo - this would 
eliminate lilo as the cause.  I could set up lilo to boot directly into 
Linux as you suggest, thus elinating XOSL as the cause. but XOSL could 
hardly be doing this, IMHO.

The site is about 70km away and my next visit is on Wednesday of next week.

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Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

2002-11-28 Thread Ron Stodden
Joe Braddock wrote:

Maybe it's not Linux clobbering the active partition but 
something occuring at boot. Is it possible that the drive 
in question has some software installed to make it seeable 
by your bios?  I know some of the WD drives come with software 
to make it compatable with older BIOS chips.  What boot manager are you using?

XOSL.   See my other reply above.  The hd is an IBM 20GB Deskstar.

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Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

2002-11-28 Thread zephod
 Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason
 to look at the active flag in the MBR on C:? Let alone change it?

I agree. I never encountered anything like this. LILO can do those things, but 
you have to explicitly configure lilo to do such a thing (what does lilo.conf 
look like?). I don't think diskdrake is capable to configure LILO to do 
partition-hiding / activation while booting.

How did you configure XOSL? Did you install Linux on a primary or logical 
partition? Does it occur each time after you booted Linux or just after 
install? My first guess would be the configuration of XOSL. Maybe it could be 
some idiot program which executes lilo -A ... at boot time (you realy 
installed everything?), but I doubt it.




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Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

2002-11-28 Thread Ron Stodden
zephod wrote:

Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason
to look at the active flag in the MBR on C:? Let alone change it?




I agree. I never encountered anything like this. LILO can do those things, but 
you have to explicitly configure lilo to do such a thing (what does lilo.conf 
look like?). 

I will be at this site on next Wednesday, and will get lilo.conf then.


I don't think diskdrake is capable to configure LILO to do 
partition-hiding / activation while booting.

How did you configure XOSL? Did you install Linux on a primary or logical 
partition? 

XOSL only has Windows, Linux1 and Linux2 choices.

Both Linux installations are on logical partitions.

Does it occur each time after you booted Linux or just after

install? 

Immediately after quitting either Linux the BIOS complains of no active 
partition.

My first guess would be the configuration of XOSL. Maybe it could be
some idiot program which executes lilo -A ... at boot time (you realy 
installed everything?), but I doubt it.

Expert, Install, Every group selected except servers, no individual 
selection.

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Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

2002-11-27 Thread Ron Stodden
Reminder.   No response to the below serious situation:


Ron Stodden wrote:

I have successfully installed 9.0 on three machines.

Two are all OK.

On the third, Linux runs, as initiated by XOSL or by its floppy, but 
always after exit the active flag on the C drive (which contains XOSL) 
is clobbered, leaving an unbootable machine which requires an MSDOS 
FDISK run from the Windows startup floppy to fix it.

This machine is Pentium 2, 300MHz, 64MB, 20GHB hard disk, and runs 
Windows 98 faultlessly.

I have installed two 9.0s, expert, all selected except servers, LILO, in 
different partitions on this machine and both have this problem.

Not very encouraging for my customer, is it?Frankly, very embarrasing.

Anybody got any ideas what to do?

Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason to look at the 
active flag in the MBR on C:?   Let alone change it?   Beats me!

--
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Re: Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

2002-11-27 Thread Joe Braddock
Maybe it's not Linux clobbering the active partition but something occuring at boot. 
Is it possible that the drive in question has some software installed to make it 
seeable by your bios?  I know some of the WD drives come with software to make it 
compatable with older BIOS chips.  What boot manager are you using?

Joeb


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Subject: Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

 Reminder.   No response to the below serious situation:


Ron Stodden wrote:
 I have successfully installed 9.0 on three machines.
 
 Two are all OK.
 
 On the third, Linux runs, as initiated by XOSL or by its floppy, but 
 always after exit the active flag on the C drive (which contains XOSL) 
 is clobbered, leaving an unbootable machine which requires an MSDOS 
 FDISK run from the Windows startup floppy to fix it.
 
 This machine is Pentium 2, 300MHz, 64MB, 20GHB hard disk, and runs 
 Windows 98 faultlessly.
 
 I have installed two 9.0s, expert, all selected except servers, LILO, in 
 different partitions on this machine and both have this problem.
 
 Not very encouraging for my customer, is it?Frankly, very embarrasing.
 
 Anybody got any ideas what to do?
 
 Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason to look at the 
 active flag in the MBR on C:?   Let alone change it?   Beats me!

-- 
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troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server.
See:  http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/









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Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

2002-11-27 Thread Philip Webb
021128 Ron Stodden wrote:
 Reminder.   No response to the below serious situation:
 I have successfully installed 9.0 on three machines. Two are all OK.
 On the third, Linux runs, as initiated by XOSL or by its floppy,
 but always after exit the active flag on the C drive
 (which contains XOSL) is clobbered, leaving an unbootable machine
 which needs an MSDOS FDISK run from the Windows startup floppy to fix it.
 This machine is Pentium 2, 300MHz, 64MB, 20GHB hard disk
 and runs Windows 98 faultlessly.
 I have installed two 9.0s, expert, all selected except servers, LILO,
 in different partitions on this machine and both have this problem.
 Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason
 to look at the active flag in the MBR on C:? Let alone change it?

since no-one else has responded, maybe a further question:
why don't you simply use Lilo to start Linux (you mention XOSL)?
ie at boot, Lilo offers you the usual screen of choices  you choose one.

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[expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.

2002-11-21 Thread Ron Stodden
I have successfully installed 9.0 on three machines.

Two are all OK.

On the third, Linux runs, as initiated by XOSL or by its floppy, but 
always after exit the active flag on the C drive (which contains XOSL) 
is clobbered, leaving an unbootable machine which requires an MSDOS 
FDISK run from the Windows startup floppy to fix it.

This machine is Pentium 2, 300MHz, 64MB, 20GHB hard disk, and runs 
Windows 98 faultlessly.

I have installed two 9.0s, expert, all selected except servers, LILO, in 
different partitions on this machine and both have this problem.

Not very encouraging for my customer, is it?Frankly, very embarrasing.

Anybody got any ideas what to do?

Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason to look at the 
active flag in the MBR on C:?   Let alone change it?   Beats me!

--
Ron. [Melbourne, Australia]
   troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server.
   See:  http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/






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